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KT Giga Legends Match on November 19 6pm, on Afreeca!
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KT Giga Showmatch: Jaedong, Flash, Bisu, Stork!
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prech
United States2948 Posts
TaekBangLeeSsang Reunited!http://ktgstar.afreecatv.com KT Giga Legends Match on November 19 6pm, on Afreeca! Countdown:
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tankgirl
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duke91
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edit: fuck now I have nothing else to do than stare at the timer all day | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
I can actually watch this. stork will get rekt a million times over. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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blade55555
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Jealous
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Lucumo
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On November 08 2016 11:14 eviltomahawk wrote: RIP Stork. The only way he'd win is if they make the others play mouse-only. You are giving him too much credit here  | ||
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ZoW
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19230 Posts
On November 08 2016 11:52 MinscandBoo wrote: I'm pretty out of the loop about most things nowadays but isn't Jaedong JUST coming back? Will he really be in any shape to put up a good fight against Bisu or Flash? (don't know anything about Stork's recent adventures either) I guess its possible Jaedong has been practicing secretly for a while before announcing anything but I dunno (even with 12 days to practice) Jaedong will be competitive enough to show good games. His practice is long then we are allowed to confirm. Stork on the other hand is going to be very poor in comparison to the others. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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GTR
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MinscandBoo
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On November 08 2016 11:55 BisuDagger wrote: Jaedong will be competitive enough to show good games. His practice is long then we are allowed to confirm. Stork on the other hand is going to be very poor in comparison to the others. why will stork be so bad? does he have like a normal full time job or something? | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
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Duckman
United States158 Posts
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ArmadA[NaS]
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YSMS
China35 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
on the other hand he didn't look particularly good so maybe we can convince ourselves it was because he's been preparing for BW instead. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On November 08 2016 11:52 MinscandBoo wrote: I'm pretty out of the loop about most things nowadays but isn't Jaedong JUST coming back? Will he really be in any shape to put up a good fight against Bisu or Flash? (don't know anything about Stork's recent adventures either) I guess its possible Jaedong has been practicing secretly for a while before announcing anything but I dunno (even with 12 days to practice) There's a long thread speculating on  Jaedong's various Fish server aliases/IDs, with many progamers surmising it's been Jaedong since July/August. If this holds true, Jaedong's been practicing for a few months now.As he's played dozens/hundreds of these games against streaming progamers, we've been able to monitor his progress. His ZvZ has remained strong, ZvP is pretty decent, while ZvT is very much a work in progress | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On November 08 2016 12:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Who? Never heard of these guys I know. Where the hell are MustacheZerg and PirateZerg? Then we would see some real skill. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19230 Posts
On November 08 2016 11:59 MinscandBoo wrote: why will stork be so bad? does he have like a normal full time job or something? All the other players are way ahead in terms of practice and form. Stork hasnt had enough time to catch up and it will show. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4126 Posts
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MinscandBoo
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On November 08 2016 12:29 BisuDagger wrote: All the other players are way ahead in terms of practice and form. Stork hasnt had enough time to catch up and it will show. Thank you for answering nub questions =) | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10149 Posts
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WidowMineHero
New Zealand143 Posts
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2267 Posts
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elmerpogs
Philippines441 Posts
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Hier
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Maybe it's fake life. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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Wrath
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Hopefully this is a round robin into finals for the top 2. | ||
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
But damn, I hope I find time for that... | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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Spinoza
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WGT-Baal
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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toriak
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Miragee
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Suck it. Stork massacered other players while playing WoW back in the day. He will obviously mo the floor with the rest of the guys. On a more serious note: I'm hyped as fuck! | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
Its happening!!! | ||
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kogeT
Poland2037 Posts
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
Stork, time to go for a ride in the Gravity Machine! | ||
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N0
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I was watching Bisu beat Flash just now, when I saw this news, and I was like I need to contribute to this hype tsunami | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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halomonian
Brazil255 Posts
HOLD ME CLOSE TASTELESS I GOT THE SICKEST NERD CHILLS. HAVE I DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN? IS THIS REAL LIFE OR IS IT JUST FANTA SEA? | ||
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Naramcr
United Kingdom28 Posts
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veQ
Poland339 Posts
Anyone casting this? | ||
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zensccc
Bangladesh12 Posts
So hyped!! I love Testossis but in my opinion they drifted to far away from BW and cant listen to the mistakes they are making during casting Like Tasteles was saying that you can have oversaturation in BW cose you can mine 3-4 peons at once from one patch... bullshit | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
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RedW4rr10r
Germany745 Posts
On November 08 2016 19:14 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: this is going to be legen... wait for it...dary! LEGENDARY!!! +1 on that :D | ||
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
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Miragee
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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No Swear
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Brazil419 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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Lightrush
Bulgaria164 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18396 Posts
Stork always does that | ||
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Argentina99 Posts
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Belgium1330 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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CognacLover
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
On November 08 2016 15:14 Hier wrote: If this real life or is this  FanTaSy?Maybe it's fake life. ftfy. oh wait, fantasy isn't in it, so i guess it is real life  | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
On November 08 2016 22:58 BisuDagger wrote: I fly home from Seattle and get in at 12:30 am. This would give me 3 hours to sleep lol. I'll recast the vods asap afterward, but can't do it live. Sorry is sayle still around? | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19230 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/514722-what-happened-to-sayle | ||
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zelderan
United States163 Posts
On November 08 2016 11:28 blade55555 wrote: Oh my god that is the perfect Birthday present from starcraft. Thank you starcraft! Happy early birthday! Also this should be SO sick. HYPE | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
Flash>Bisu>Jaedong>Stork I'm still hype tho. On November 08 2016 18:45 zensccc wrote:Like Tasteles was saying that you can have oversaturation in BW cose you can mine 3-4 peons at once from one patch... bullshit What he means is that if you have 8 patches, you need 24-32 workers to fully saturate it unlike the 16 you need for SC2. | ||
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Jealous
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On November 09 2016 01:59 neobowman wrote: So judging based on recent results and practice time available Flash>Bisu>Jaedong>Stork I'm still hype tho. What he means is that if you have 8 patches, you need 24-32 workers to fully saturate it unlike the 16 you need for SC2. That's not accurate though because Protoss and Terran need about 2.5 workers per patch for optimal saturation. After that the returns are diminished greatly. Zerg would also need about that many but because they tend to have more bases, 1.5 is what was recommended back in the day; I doubt much had changed. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19230 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:23 Jealous wrote: That's not accurate though because Protoss and Terran need about 2.5 workers per patch for optimal saturation. After that the returns are diminished greatly. Zerg would also need about that many but because they tend to have more bases, 1.5 is what was recommended back in the day; I doubt much had changed. That zerg estimate is such a rough number because I feel like every pro zerg has a different count at each 1st,2nd,3rd based on their preference and build orders. But if we had to give a number 1.5 sounds pretty solid. | ||
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Noobville17921 Posts
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Peeano
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IntoTheEmo
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cha0
Canada504 Posts
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
Also, shouldn't this topic be in Tourneys forum section? | ||
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MrShankly
United Kingdom371 Posts
On November 08 2016 17:07 Miragee wrote: Suck it. Stork massacered other players while playing WoW back in the day. He will obviously mo the floor with the rest of the guys. On a more serious note: I'm hyped as fuck! Hoping for some of this! Excited for this match! I basically never ever ever post on team liquid... but Go Stork!!!!! :D. Stork Hypeeeeeeeeeeeee | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
if sayle doesn't come back for his boy stork, i don't know what's what anymore. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
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Kittan
Poland3999 Posts
IT'S ALL COMING BACK | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7884 Posts
Will it be possible to watch later, I'm playing a concert on saturday.. | ||
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Orite
Germany140 Posts
Jaedong beat them all please!  | ||
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StronGerSC2
Spain20 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
I bet Stork will get blown up. Go the distance, dong. | ||
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Germany4842 Posts
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Philar
Hong Kong125 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
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KatjaKean
Hungary59 Posts
Jaedong hwaiting, but I won't hold my breath, he'll probably be still out of shape a bit. Would be awesome to have an official/semi-official English cast of this! | ||
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
I gotta give it to myself: from the hundreds of pc games out there I just had to pick Starcraft as my one and only favourite for ever and ever.... damn I'm so smart. And these are definitely some good times to be around here. Lee Jaedong its getting closer and closer and I can barely belive it. Since the appearence of the thread "Jaedong returns to BW???" (the best TL thread since the beggining of time, btw) I check bw news on TL like 3 times a day and boy, things are getting better and better, I'm having troubles expressing all my hypeness Some epicness is coming, boys fasten ur belts, this is gona be legend.... wait for it.... =))) | ||
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
TBLS!!! | ||
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DarkNetHunter
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I can't believe this news just throws Stork back into the light out of nowhere, what's he been getting up to? | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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Varbind
Canada113 Posts
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DarkNetHunter
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Please add a countdown clock to the OP! | ||
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duke91
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On November 11 2016 17:32 DarkNetHunter wrote: more hype! Please add a countdown clock to the OP! Added 6pm countdown  | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On November 10 2016 00:02 Sayle wrote: Whoa. Okay let's do this. I'll live cast it. 10am for me right? FeelsGoodMan | ||
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Germany667 Posts
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GTR
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Brendan Valdes (long time SC commentator in Korea) confirms that Artosis and Tasteless will be doing commentary from the venue. | ||
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Probemicro
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On November 13 2016 20:46 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote: Anyone know stork fish acc? Scan do you? someone on ygosu said that his account has 25 w 6l on fish (as of 15th nov) but could not say the account name frankly rather than JD im worried about stork the most in this upcoming events, is he seriously getting enough practice to live up to his TBLS tag? | ||
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On November 18 2016 03:02 Sayle wrote: Hmm, am I going to get in trouble if I cast this at the same time as Tastosis? I don't wanna get banned again :< nvm. Best to avoid actually. | ||
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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disciple
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On November 18 2016 05:31 disciple wrote: Thats like the rock, stone cold, hhh and the undertaker having a fatal 4 way at wrestlemania. Im sure games are gonna be hype regardless of gameplay quality besides I doubt there will be any brutal roll overs cause these guys respect each other and probably would want to make anyone look bad. I don't think so. I especially don't trust Flash to just roll over these guys. He never not goes 100% | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4986 Posts
That sucks. A Sayle cast would be way more appealing to listen to than Tastosis. | ||
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Belgium6559 Posts
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RoomOfMush
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On November 18 2016 03:02 Sayle wrote: Hmm, am I going to get in trouble if I cast this at the same time as Tastosis? I don't wanna get banned again :< Dont play with our hearts man. This is just cruel. | ||
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Orite
Germany140 Posts
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afreecaTV.Char
United States337 Posts
On November 18 2016 03:02 Sayle wrote: Hmm, am I going to get in trouble if I cast this at the same time as Tastosis? I don't wanna get banned again :< You wouldn't get in trouble if you streamed it on afreeca.tv. Can also give you a clean feed (only game sounds no commentary from Tastosis/Korean team in the background) to the matches if you want. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On November 18 2016 07:44 afreecaTV.Char wrote: You wouldn't get in trouble if you streamed it on afreeca.tv. Can also give you a clean feed (only game sounds no commentary from Tastosis/Korean team in the background) to the matches if you want. Tastosis will be streaming here - http://afreeca.tv/36869464 Based afreeca is based | ||
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On November 18 2016 03:02 Sayle wrote: Hmm, am I going to get in trouble if I cast this at the same time as Tastosis? I don't wanna get banned again :< On November 18 2016 07:44 afreecaTV.Char wrote: You wouldn't get in trouble if you streamed it on afreeca.tv. Can also give you a clean feed (only game sounds no commentary from Tastosis/Korean team in the background) to the matches if you want. Tastosis will be streaming here - http://afreeca.tv/36869464 Omg doo it Sayle! Tastosis can cater to their viewer base of SC2 / random mixed crowd and explain it for the newbies, but cast for the rest of us familiar with BW! | ||
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Germany1764 Posts
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On November 18 2016 07:44 afreecaTV.Char wrote: You wouldn't get in trouble if you streamed it on afreeca.tv. Can also give you a clean feed (only game sounds no commentary from Tastosis/Korean team in the background) to the matches if you want. Tastosis will be streaming here - http://afreeca.tv/36869464 Will there be VODs? | ||
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Canada504 Posts
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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United States649 Posts
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RoomOfMush
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On November 18 2016 14:36 Shana wrote: Sayle > tastosis So true. I still think they are good casters but they are not good BW casters anymore. Too many factual errors in what they are saying. | ||
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Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
On November 18 2016 07:44 afreecaTV.Char wrote: You wouldn't get in trouble if you streamed it on afreeca.tv. Can also give you a clean feed (only game sounds no commentary from Tastosis/Korean team in the background) to the matches if you want. Tastosis will be streaming here - http://afreeca.tv/36869464 Yes please! That would be amazing. I've just had a quick look at the Afreeca streaming guide on your site and it looks pretty simple so I'll try to set that up after I get home from work today. Thank you so much! | ||
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BossPurple
Sweden65 Posts
Adobe | ||
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afreecaTV.Char
United States337 Posts
Sayle - http://afreeca.tv/36882510 | ||
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On November 19 2016 10:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Updated link for Tastosis - http://afreeca.tv/36872425 Sayle - http://afreeca.tv/36882510  | ||
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MarineCA1
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. It's better for foreigners to watch it on twitch but whatever. | ||
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cha0
Canada504 Posts
On November 19 2016 12:45 MarineCA1 wrote: its not gonna be on twitch ?? . It's better for foreigners to watch it on twitch but whatever.I used http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/512913-guide-watch-afreeca-sc-bw-streams-with-vlc a few months ago and haven't had a problem watching since. Don't know if you've tried it but if you haven't highly recommend it, only took about 10 minutes to setup. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On November 19 2016 12:45 MarineCA1 wrote: its not gonna be on twitch ?? . It's better for foreigners to watch it on twitch but whatever.They use afreeca.tv (international site), so it won't buffer. Afreeca.com is the korean site. | ||
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Zepish
Canada160 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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Zepish
Canada160 Posts
Thanks for your answer tho! | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
I guess I 'll be too late to watch it live too, might be able to catch some games. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
Setting up! | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
Photos with TBLS! | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Piste
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and Stafu thanks for these pics | ||
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Germany1458 Posts
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United States3126 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 19 2016 17:56 puppykiller wrote: Whos gonna be streaming this? I don't wanna miss it. Tastosis on http://afreeca.tv/36872425 Sayle on http://afreeca.tv/36882510 | ||
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veQ
Poland339 Posts
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Musicus
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veQ
Poland339 Posts
AND SAYLES THROUGH! | ||
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Croatia1599 Posts
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:00 Musicus wrote: Tastosis on http://afreeca.tv/36872425 Sayle on http://afreeca.tv/36882510 oh man Sayle OR Tastosis. How do I pick between that?? | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
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BigFan
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Germany23576 Posts
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RoomOfMush
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On November 19 2016 18:07 atrox_ wrote: oh man Sayle OR Tastosis. How do I pick between that?? Are you kidding me?!? | ||
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Singapore65 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:09 Musicus wrote: more music? at least this works better muted | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 19 2016 10:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Updated link for Tastosis - http://afreeca.tv/36872425 Sayle - http://afreeca.tv/36882510 Now I have to choose between the best english casters and the raw excitement of Korean ones. Why do you torture me like this. | ||
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Germany2606 Posts
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Germany23576 Posts
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Czech Republic28 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:13 atrox_ wrote: hang on there's 5 of them? I am 100% positive there were 3, no idea how this happened or maybe it's a k-pop magic show | ||
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United Kingdom3685 Posts
I'm also doing an audio-only stream on twitch but please do tune in to Afreeca! | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:14 Musicus wrote: I am 100% positive there were 3, no idea how this happened or maybe it's a k-pop magic show Now if the audience will just look closely... and Jaedong has won! Magic! On November 19 2016 18:14 veQ wrote: what buffering guys? it works flawlessly on low for me! But please dont tell me its gonna be like 45+ mins of breaks between games T_T Yeah this is not the Westerner Watching Afreeca Experience™ that I'm used to. | ||
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Germany23576 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:15 Probe1 wrote: Now if the audience will just look closely... and Jaedong has won! Magic! A power outage would be epic, just for history. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:17 Musicus wrote: "No mom, I swear I'm watching sc, no this is not illegal, I promise!" I wouldn't have thought we have still BW fans, which live at their mom's. Hahah nice to see a new generation :D + Show Spoiler + I know you are not serious ^^ | ||
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c3rberUs
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
feels good man | ||
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Croatia1599 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6559 Posts
On November 19 2016 18:26 NinjaToss wrote: that Kpop was sick wasn't it? no | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:28 NeonFlare wrote: Stream is super laggy for me Try this link? On November 19 2016 18:00 Musicus wrote: Tastosis on http://afreeca.tv/36872425 Sayle on http://afreeca.tv/36882510 | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:29 Ej_ wrote: tried the youtube stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iMWSv3lvk Thanks! Works way better, I don't know what it is but my connection or PC just seems to hate Afreeca. 90% of the time the streams just don't seem to work at all. | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:31 c3rberUs wrote: Am I dreaming? Am I seeing Stork in the stage with Jaedong, Bisu and FlaSh? Is this real life? Or is this FanTaSy | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:32 ]343[ wrote: jiko = jd confirmed (not that we didn't know kek) lol yeah. | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:37 Musicus wrote: So Bisu is the heavy favourite against JD right now right? Yes | ||
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Only Bo1 (( | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:39 Musicus wrote: Nice, so it will be pretty hype when JD wins .Jaedong winning Bisu there is 10% chance,based on the results vs sky ^^ | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:43 NinjaToss wrote: it's funny how you have KT Bisu, KT JaeDong, KT Flash, and then BAM suddenly Samsung_Stork Pretty sure Samsung wouldn't be happy paying his salary for him to promote KT stuff | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:42 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Jaedong winning Bisu there is 10% chance,based on the results vs sky ^^ Your logic and reason has no effect on me! | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:45 Waxangel wrote: Man, these KT Giga series of matches... what a cheap trick to put SKT legends in KT shirts T_T can't spell SKT without KT + Show Spoiler + | ||
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.The last game of Stork I saw was him losing to Stephano on the Carbot mod. Not sure if he was already playing BW or not, but either way it does not bode well for him. | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:27 Piste wrote: Why are the streams not listed in event calendar?! Afreeca's global site doesn't have an API that we can use to support their streams. | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:52 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: 2 canons vs 12h only drones ok... Well, it *is* Python with natural expansion choke as wide as grand canyon... | ||
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On November 19 2016 18:56 Ej_ wrote: I think they just really wanted JD vs Flash finals. Haha yeah^^ | ||
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Poll: How long till the next match? No brakes on the Brood War train (10) 10 minutes (2) An entire kpop performance (1) 3 minutes (0) 5 minutes (0) 13 total votes Your vote: How long till the next match? (Vote): No brakes on the Brood War train | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:06 usopsama wrote: These are BO1? Based on the Jaedong vs Stork match, yes | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:14 c3rberUs wrote: Bisu c'mon BBOOOOO GO FLASH | ||
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What have they been yarning about? Hope Tastosis haven't dumbed it down too much. | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:15 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: Been with my grill on skype, had this on in the background. What have they been yarning about? Hope Tastosis haven't dumbed it down too much. Flash! Bisu! Vulture micro! Oh no Bisu! Oh no Flash! that's the gist. | ||
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GOOOO BISUUU! | ||
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BISUUUUUUUUU | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:21 letian wrote: Nice, when Bisu is on top of his play not even Flash can stop him. Bisu got lucky! | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:22 Qikz wrote: Bisu vs Jaedong and Flash vs Stork. Could you ask for anything better? I mean I wanna see some ZvT but I will gladly take this as well! Also we've unfortunately missed out on seeing a horrible one sided PvP | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:22 Letmelose wrote: I've been listening to free commentate on Nal_rA's stream. His insight is insane. Makes me wish I can understand Korean. T_T | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:22 Letmelose wrote: I've been listening to free commentate on Nal_rA's stream. His insight is insane. The stream is way too laggy for me. Which is too bad. | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:23 eekmice wrote: watching the restream with nal_ra and free commentating is awesome. nal_ra forced free to clap after that bisu game saying that bisu is the ultimate god. rofl. LMAO thanks sir! | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:24 c3rberUs wrote: Makes me wish I can understand Korean. T_T Yaeh, listening to players is always awesome, one of the reasons why HSC is so good. | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:22 Letmelose wrote: I've been listening to free commentate on Nal_rA's stream. His insight is insane. Translated transcript of this would be pretty cool to read! | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:24 c3rberUs wrote: Makes me wish I can understand Korean. T_T free basically predicted Flash's push minutes in advance after Bisu lost a couple dragoons to mines, then focused on the mana count of Bisu's first arbiter while he was trying to hold Flash's push, then mentioned Bisu could counter with a recall minutes in advance of the recall, and all the while we had Nal_rA was screaming senile non-sense you expect from casual members of this thread. | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:30 Letmelose wrote: free basically predicted Flash's push minutes in advance after Bisu lost a couple dragoons to mines, then focused on the mana count of Bisu's first arbiter while he was trying to hold Flash's push, then mentioned Bisu could counter with a recall minutes in advance of the recall, and all the while we had Nal_rA was screaming senile non-sense you expect from casual members of this thread. Well the good news is that the game is always suspenseful and crazy when you don't have that genius insight! | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:34 veQ wrote: So next what Colloseun II? I adore that map, so yes please! | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:35 Grettin wrote: Score so far? Best of 1 matches. Finals Jaedong (1-0) - Bisu (1-0) Losers Finals Stork Flash (you get the picture) | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:37 Probe1 wrote: Best of 1 matches. Finals Jaedong (1-0) - Bisu (1-0) Losers Finals Stork Flash (you get the picture) Should've made it bo1 round robin ;_; | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:37 Probe1 wrote: Best of 1 matches. Finals Jaedong (1-0) - Bisu (1-0) Losers Finals Stork Flash (you get the picture) Thanks babe | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:49 Musicus wrote: "another army in the bottom left! ... well it's a zealot" lol Tasteless xD | ||
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On November 19 2016 10:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote: Updated link for Tastosis - http://afreeca.tv/36872425 Sayle - http://afreeca.tv/36882510 Thank you guys so much for supporting foreign viewers. Getting us an English stream and the best casters has made a great show greater. | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:59 Mrwl wrote: Is Flash done playing now or will he play more? Cant find any brackets He's done now. Only the finals are remaining | ||
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On November 19 2016 19:36 chrisolo wrote: Circuit Breaker will probably be used. Nailed it | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:07 Musicus wrote: I think this night is awesome btw, I feel like it's a good thing that we didn't get to see JD vs Flash yet. Give them both more time! JD needs more time in ZvT especially :D | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:07 The_Red_Viper wrote: JD needs more time in ZvT especially :D They should schedule a match for BlizzCon 2017 .If they meet before that, by plaing ASL or something, fine. | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:33 r33k wrote: All nostalgia aside the skill level of this game is 2009 Hyuk vs Guemchi levels. lol ? | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:33 r33k wrote: All nostalgia aside the skill level of this game is 2009 Hyuk vs Guemchi levels. ???? did you see that multitasking? | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:33 r33k wrote: All nostalgia aside the skill level of this game is 2009 Hyuk vs Guemchi levels. i swear when i watch asl now compared to the old 2010-2011 osls they're so much crappier. these are relatively good games compared to it. can't remember that game tho tbh. remember hyuk just fucking cheesed and choked all the time. What was that game like? i thought they were crap players, even despite current skill seems like an insult | ||
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It's honestly that bad. If Effort vs Flash from yesterday's Effort stream after he just woke up was sloppy this is on a whole other level. | ||
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I did not LMAO. I saw players only doing one thing at a time and getting caught off guard all game. On November 19 2016 20:34 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: i swear when i watch asl now compared to the old 2010-2011 osls they're so much crappier. these are relatively good games compared to it. can't remember that game tho tbh. remember hyuk just fucking cheesed and choked all the time. What was that game like? i thought they were crap players, even despite current skill seems like an insult 2011 was when the game peaked in terms of skill levels, you'd get incredibly good games even out of mid tier players. But this game was bad bad. Bisu let JD's opening 2 lings in his main and lost ~11 probes to it over the course of the first 10 minutes, all that while lazily leaving 2 zealots in his main. JD lost the game because he left all his overlords clumped at his natural and fucked up his hydra rally points. | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:35 r33k wrote: I did not LMAO. I saw players only doing one thing at a time and getting caught off guard all game. Umm... there were sloppy moments but overall the control was pretty good. | ||
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At least Jaedong got a game and actually put up a relatively good performance in game 2. GG. Awesome games. | ||
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At least JD won a map off him | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:37 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: wasn't this map completely Z favoured? not when you risk and build your third under the toss nose | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:45 letian wrote: not when you risk and build your third under the toss nose hahahahahaha | ||
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Bisu | ||
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THANK YOU AFREECA I am so happy you did this showmatches, thank you very much. Is there any possibility to donate something to you guys :D ? We need more of this. | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:46 No Swear wrote: MOAR ;__ 15 days. | ||
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Yep! | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:49 Wrath wrote: Is this over? I just came. Yeah, it is. | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:49 Wrath wrote: Is this over? I just came. What you did before the games is none of our business! | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:49 c3rberUs wrote: I heard ASL from Jaedong, okay this night is complete. All the four players are going to participate in ASL. :-) | ||
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Recap? I don't care about spoilers. | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:51 Grettin wrote: All the four players are going to participate in ASL. :-) whoa even stork going to be in ASL? didn't realize he was actually gonna play bw again, nice! | ||
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bisu, pls. play in the next asl! | ||
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Flash #3, Jaedong #2 and Bisu #1. Bisu won 2-1 in the finals. Rest were Bo1:s | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:51 ]343[ wrote: whoa even stork going to be in ASL? didn't realize he was actually gonna play bw again, nice! Fantasy, please come back ;___________; | ||
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JD vs Stork , JD won FlaSh vs Bisu, Bisu won FlaSh vs Stork FlaSh won (so, FlaSh is 3rd) JD vs Bisu, Bisu won, 2:1 | ||
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Edit: Thanks for the recap guys, I appreciate it. | ||
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On November 19 2016 20:51 Grettin wrote: All the four players are going to participate in ASL. :-) I know ^_^ haha Stork did okay; probably better than what everyone expected. FlaSh and Bisu was pretty close then Bisu recall won the game. JD took a game from Bisu in a Bo3 but Bisu was just too good for him. Pretty good imo. | ||
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He's in the army. It will take a while sadly. | ||
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Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On November 19 2016 20:53 Wrath wrote: Why Stork still wearing Samsung shirt, and are they saying there are surprises coming later next year? Edit: Thanks for the recap guys, I appreciate it. Because technically he's still in Samsung until the end of this month | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2606 Posts
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cha0
Canada504 Posts
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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Grettin
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Wrath
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
I mean every average guy still playing the game prolly - doesn't have to ask himself how many zeal+probe hit it takes to kill a drone with +0/+1 - is not surprised how good JD is; we know which accounts he plays on fish - doesn't call the citadel of Adun twilight council by mistake Again, i like the casts but stop acting like you know everything and are such high level experts etc when you're just not.  | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 19 2016 21:10 Cele wrote: nice cast by Tastosis. But they're trying to sell the point that they are super duper experts in the game and the scene a bit to hard when they're not. I mean every average guy still playing the game prolly - have to ask himself how many zeal+probe hit it takes to kill a drone with +0/+1 - is not surprised how good JD is; we know which accounts he plays on fish - doesn't call the citadel of Adun twilight council by mistake Again, i like the casts but stop acting like you know everything and are such high level experts etc when you're just not. I know it's hard for me and I can imagine it for them. I've been playing Brood War since it came out. But I play SC2 almost daily. It's tough to remember the very precise differences when you have both games knowledge bouncing around in your head and the same units with different interactions. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Filco
France154 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 19 2016 21:19 Filco wrote: Can anyone find a link to archives? VODs? I just missed it this morning TT_TT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iMWSv3lvk i gotchu | ||
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
What do you think this can mean ? | ||
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arachnidd
211 Posts
Thanks so much | ||
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Bonybony
6 Posts
You #1. Thanks! | ||
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cha0
Canada504 Posts
On November 19 2016 21:38 HaN- wrote: Artosis : "There's a lot of stuff we aren't allowed to tell you is coming yet, but 2017 is going to be a great year for Brood War" What do you think this can mean ? They also mentioned something about Broodwar HD again at the end in the post event interviews didn't they? | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
On November 19 2016 21:38 HaN- wrote: Artosis : "There's a lot of stuff we aren't allowed to tell you is coming yet, but 2017 is going to be a great year for Brood War" What do you think this can mean ? Considering they just got back from Blizzcon... I'm pretty sure it's some kind of blizzard support for bw, either bw hd or a bnet 2.0 integration. If there's no blizzard involvement I don't know... a bigger ASL ? | ||
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Wrath
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On November 19 2016 22:11 RouaF wrote: Considering they just got back from Blizzcon... I'm pretty sure it's some kind of blizzard support for bw, either bw hd or a bnet 2.0 integration. If there's no blizzard involvement I don't know... a bigger ASL ? BW Proleague? One can dream... | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4757 Posts
On November 19 2016 21:10 Cele wrote: nice cast by Tastosis. But they're trying to sell the point that they are super duper experts in the game and the scene a bit to hard when they're not. + Show Spoiler + I mean every average guy still playing the game prolly - doesn't have to ask himself how many zeal+probe hit it takes to kill a drone with +0/+1 - is not surprised how good JD is; we know which accounts he plays on fish - doesn't call the citadel of Adun twilight council by mistake Again, i like the casts but stop acting like you know everything and are such high level experts etc when you're just not. I don't get this sentiment.. They catered more to the people that aren't the average guy you mentioned (people flowing over from SCII). They are super duper experts because they were the original english casters for big tournaments like GOM. And Artosis was a pretty high level BW player. You probably know this, but I think your post is pretty condescending towards them and I won't eat it up. | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6559 Posts
On November 19 2016 22:41 letian wrote: Only Proleague and new players can save BW. save of ? | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On November 19 2016 22:25 Uldridge wrote: I don't get this sentiment.. They catered more to the people that aren't the average guy you mentioned (people flowing over from SCII). They are super duper experts because they were the original english casters for big tournaments like GOM. And Artosis was a pretty high level BW player. You probably know this, but I think your post is pretty condescending towards them and I won't eat it up. I think the problem stems from a lack of options if you are not a Korean speaker. There are zero "super duper experts" who cast Brood War for a living, and in a game that's as nuanced as Brood War, I think some constructive criticism is fine as long as it contributes towards better casting in the future. I personally rate Lee Seung Won (one of the best, if not the best, Starcraft commentator during the days of professional Brood War) extremely highly as a commentator, but I still found myself wanting to see free's perspective on the game after testing the waters here and there on Afreeca. I don't want to put any misinformed opinions of the English casting that went on today, but even the best commentators can be given constructive criticism, and even during Tastosis' absolute peak, I wasn't of the opinion that they were the pinnacle of e-Sports commentary. You can always strive to improve. Maybe a little more respect might be required for the status they earned as the premier Brood War casters back in the days, but you can't rest on your laurels if that is what happened today (again, I want to emphasize I have no idea if that is what actually happened), there's so much strategic nuances and almost a saga-like history between the players that it's actually incredibly hard to do it justice even you have been trying to keep up full time. No one is beyond reproach. And even though I much prefer Korean casting, I do enjoy high level English commentary when it does occur, and in a game that is as fantastic as Brood War, I think a call for higher level of excellence is not completely out of hand. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4757 Posts
Feedback is always important, but the feedback needs to be given in the right context. And for the context of this showmatch I believe the casters did a great job. | ||
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Me_ToKa
Bulgaria309 Posts
Thank you! <3 | ||
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riotjune
United States3392 Posts
Oh wait there's a link right above, noice! | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4986 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/O3qtlEl.jpg) Had a blast at the event. The place was (almost?) completely full and the crowd was so into it. BO1 was a bit of a pity but the finals were super fun! Tasteless & Artosis were up on the front stage which was cool to see too. No stress, more exciting! | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
Hopefully this does mean that Bisu has the confidence to participate in tournaments now. | ||
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
Exactly | ||
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LML
Germany1764 Posts
Please, they claimed that the Shield upgrade for Protoss increases the shield's regeneration rate in ASL. That's not even close to being an expert. Also many strategies they claimed as new were already being played 5 years ago. It's just new to them because they stopped doing BW when SC2 came out. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4126 Posts
Also on the Flash vs Bisu game, if Flash's turrets had finished 3-5 secs earlier he would have taken it I think. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4757 Posts
On November 20 2016 01:20 LML wrote: Please, they claimed that the Shield upgrade for Protoss increases the shield's regeneration rate in ASL. That's not even close to being an expert. Also many strategies they claimed as new were already being played 5 years ago. It's just new to them because they stopped doing BW when SC2 came out. Sure, there's a difference between current knowledge, but that's not really the point here. You're absolutely right that they're not up to par with how the game is played in the present, but that doesn't make them not understand the game any longer. They've been involved in the BW scene for a long time and going back to it simply refreshes everything. Even if they lag behind, it's not like they're completely out of the loop by seeing how the current meta is like. I think they can analyse how something works when it's played in a different way. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
Bisu vs Flash had me screaming at the edge of my chair for as long as that contain/gg move flash almost get done at Bisu's door. JD vs Bisu's 1st game was pretty awesome too, I'm very happy to see the Tyrant getting in shape and beeing able to get a win from one of the scariest oponents around. Unlike some stupid/hate comments suggested, I did enjoyed Artosis & Tasteless cast pretty much... Overall, I say it's really a good time for BW's lovers to be around, and to have well mannered, well intentioned and trully interested people putting their time and energy and showing their love for something I love too just suits me perfectly. Long live BW, TBLS Hwaiting, have a good day you all | ||
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United States3300 Posts
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RoomOfMush
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On November 19 2016 20:56 Sayle wrote: Thanks everyone for tuning in! And a huge thanks to Afreeca for reaching out and helping me do this stream. The global Afreeca site actually looks and works really well so I'd recommend everyone give it a try. I'll probably dual stream on Afreeca and Twitch going forward. It was a great cast. So refreshing. You still have it in you Sayle. Can we expect more commentary from you in the future? Perhaps you could cast together with somebody if a solo cast is too much of a burden for you. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
Glad I sat through the entire VOD. I'll echo the common opinion here that Bisu vs Flash and Bisu vs Jaedong game 1 were the standout games. I was exceptionally happy with the plays they managed to pull off - Jaedong's especially, was not expecting Ling micro of that caliber yet - the sheer awe that I hadn't felt for a long time, where I couldn't help but mutter to myself in their presence, was a great feeling to have. Considering the potential diversity of their audience, commentary was stellar. Tastosis wasn't pandering to try and cater to SC2 fans either for the most part; they clearly knew what these games meant to the BW crowd and casted accordingly. I felt that they hit most of the right points (they even managed a pandabearguy throwback on Destination, which is what I started watching BW with - GOMTV Classic), with the knowledge they dropped (obviously not to the degree of us TL nerds, but it was a huge improvement over ASL casts), and were able to present TBLS in a manner they deserved, all while emanating their BW passion for all to see. All the credit needs to be given. Production was on point too. The classic zoom in into the start of the game was there as expected. And after the games were played and TBLS were lined up and giving the post-match interviews, they were playing Black Parade (a song they played a lot in old KeSPA tournaments and highlight vids), and the whole "we'll carry on" thing added so much to the atmosphere. Those glorious bastards in the back still have their impeccable music selection sense it seems. Ahh what an amazing day to be a BW fan. | ||
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Miragee
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On November 20 2016 01:44 Uldridge wrote: Sure, there's a difference between current knowledge, but that's not really the point here. You're absolutely right that they're not up to par with how the game is played in the present, but that doesn't make them not understand the game any longer. They've been involved in the BW scene for a long time and going back to it simply refreshes everything. Even if they lag behind, it's not like they're completely out of the loop by seeing how the current meta is like. I think they can analyse how something works when it's played in a different way. Yeah but basic things like probe+zealot hits for a drone kill should be basic knowledge. How did they forget that? I dunno, I liked Artosis a lot because of his analytical style but he has to step it up with his knowledge again or he lost his trademark. | ||
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LML
Germany1764 Posts
On November 20 2016 03:21 BigFan wrote: Games weren't too bad, Stork vs Flash and first game of JD vs Bisu were the definite highlights imo. Hopefully they all keep practicing and qualify for ASL2 making it to the later stages. The hype would be out of this world! Sayle was also on point with his casting, great stuff as usual Sayle. Thanks for the great cast! Stork vs FlaSh was just a perfect display of how shitty Destination is for PvT. FlaSh did a perfect job of abusing the map for an easy win. | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
On November 19 2016 21:38 HaN- wrote: Artosis : "There's a lot of stuff we aren't allowed to tell you is coming yet, but 2017 is going to be a great year for Brood War" What do you think this can mean ? link and which minute/second to watch for please? | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
On November 20 2016 08:40 LRM)TechnicS wrote: link and which minute/second to watch for please? don't bother, this is how stupid rumors like BW hd get started | ||
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Shield
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HaN-
France1919 Posts
On November 20 2016 08:40 LRM)TechnicS wrote: link and which minute/second to watch for please? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iMWSv3lvk&feature=youtu.be&t=3h2m34s | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
On November 20 2016 06:28 IntoTheEmo wrote: they were playing Black Parade (a song they played a lot in old KeSPA tournaments and highlight vids) OK nice, now imagine when they play THIS... I'm wating for that moment | ||
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Jealous
10138 Posts
Can we have one without English commentary please -_-; Korean VOD | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
On November 20 2016 16:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: pretty sure black parade is like Bisu's theme Yeah? I wasn't around when that was a thing then. Must've heard it through VODs. Might need to pursue that music thread again. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On November 19 2016 22:25 Uldridge wrote: I don't get this sentiment.. They catered more to the people that aren't the average guy you mentioned (people flowing over from SCII). They are super duper experts because they were the original english casters for big tournaments like GOM. And Artosis was a pretty high level BW player. You probably know this, but I think your post is pretty condescending towards them and I won't eat it up. i think you're taking this a little personal. I'm not condescending when i say i liked the cast and i simply mentioned their self-presentation of being an expert doesn't match certain gaps in their ingame knowledge. Yeah im aware- im fact i loved to watch GOM TV Classic Series with Tasteless+Littlesusie and Superdanielman later. Artosis never casted that, but he he did a lot of awesome things. I think i simply have high expectations towards the premier casters of this game. Tastosis casts used to entertain and educate me on the highest level and i'd like to have that back. That would require them to get into touch with the metagame, developments in the game and the competitive scene a bit more than they currently are. Asking for that seems like a reasonable request to me and no "heresy" towards the godstatus of Tastosis, as you seem to perceive it. By the way: Yeah i recall Artosis as a good foreigner, here's a list of his ahcievements achievementst How that makes my point being condescending, is beyond me tho. Care to elaborate? | ||
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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
I thought that Sayles cast was better when it comes to raw BW knowledge, thats why I preferred his Stream. Tastosis are better at hyping things up in my opinion. Sayle is more down to earth and analytical of the game play. Not saying that either one is good or bad or better or worse. Its simply differences with the different casters. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On November 20 2016 18:55 RoomOfMush wrote: Tastosis were away from BW for too long, simply put. They still know the basics, but the finer details are gone. Its not condescending to say that, its just reality. Thats how things go with everybody and everything. I thought that Sayles cast was better when it comes to raw BW knowledge, thats why I preferred his Stream. Tastosis are better at hyping things up in my opinion. Sayle is more down to earth and analytical of the game play. Not saying that either one is good or bad or better or worse. Its simply differences with the different casters. Tastosis would attract more SC2 viewers i think than Sayle just because its a name they know more i'd say. I do agree they're probably way too rusty though | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2267 Posts
ASL is going to be AMAZING can't wait. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
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Sheik_
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ortseam
996 Posts
Btw i don't see how Stork is going to qualify for ASL, he only has half a month to improve really a lot | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
The casters... well neither set is really known for their depth of technical commentary, despite the fact that both Tastosis and Sayle are pretty decent at the game. I watched the Tastosis version but if Sayle is about the same as I remember him he would be similar in his tendency to explain the obvious (DTs plus corsairs kill drones!) while underplaying the larger issues (macro-economy, tech advantages, specific timings). Nothing to be disappointed about, they have basically always been that way. They did a pretty good job as far as English language casts go. | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
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Jealous
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
On November 20 2016 16:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: pretty sure black parade is like Bisu's theme Or maybe, just maybe is this... ahhh the memories Thank you Kim Taek for show me that crappy korean music can be awesome too  | ||
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Jealous
10138 Posts
On November 21 2016 03:12 Jealous wrote: ... Can I please get Korean-audio VOD??? How is there no link for that yet? http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/15300819 For anyone else interested | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
So was Sayle. | ||
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KenNage
Chile885 Posts
I just think we should all be grateful that we have Brood War again, like it should be. Clapping and cheering, this feeling no other game gives me, I couldn't be happier or more exited for next month's ASL . | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden305 Posts
They never even call out the build orders as they happen, they are busy talking about other stuff and then "I think this was an overpool" when the pool just finishes and stuff like that. They do a great job at what they are doing so I feel like an asshat complaining about it, but it isn't really for me and I miss Nukethestars! I really enjoyed the games though but it is clear that the overall game of brood war right now isn't as sharp and finetuned as it was when everyone spent 10+ hours a day practicing in the team houses. I am very very excited to see where Brood War goes from here though and I will support it anyway I can! | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
On November 20 2016 18:35 Cele wrote: i think you're taking this a little personal. I'm not condescending when i say i liked the cast and i simply mentioned their self-presentation of being an expert doesn't match certain gaps in their ingame knowledge. Yeah im aware- im fact i loved to watch GOM TV Classic Series with Tasteless+Littlesusie and Superdanielman later. Artosis never casted that, but he he did a lot of awesome things. I think i simply have high expectations towards the premier casters of this game. Tastosis casts used to entertain and educate me on the highest level and i'd like to have that back. That would require them to get into touch with the metagame, developments in the game and the competitive scene a bit more than they currently are. Asking for that seems like a reasonable request to me and no "heresy" towards the godstatus of Tastosis, as you seem to perceive it. By the way: Yeah i recall Artosis as a good foreigner, here's a list of his ahcievements achievementst How that makes my point being condescending, is beyond me tho. Care to elaborate? As someone who's played the game for over 10 years, I totally agree with you and you're definitely right. They're not gods and nothing you said was disrespectful in any way. Any D+/C- player could probably have provided more insightful commentary on those games than Tastosis, and that's probably been true since GOM TV (everyone back in the day looking for strategic insights knew day9 >>>> tastosis in that category). But....that's never been their thing and they're loved because they're really entertaining, provide a solid bridge between many communities, AND because they make these mistakes and don't take them too seriously. It's actually really entertaining for me to listen to them clearly miscall a build only to hear them catch it a minute later and laugh it off. Rather than their lack of insight, I think it's more fair to criticize what seemed to be a lack of preparation. I think professional casters should watch some recent BW streams, do some research, and get a sense of the new meta in BW. Tastosis have been casting SCII for years now, and I wish they had done a little more homework on BW, even if the commentary is geared towards non-BW player. Focusing on the map, how it's generally played, how the players have been streaming, and the history between these players could really have made it even more entertaining--even for the casual observer. One example of how prep would have helped: Jaedong's game 1 5-hatch, delayed lair build (which I don't think he'd ever done before) against bisu was almost assuredly influenced by a build effort pioneered against bisu's 1-gate pressure into expansion/forge several months ago cross-position circuit breaker (which was seen as sort of a soft counter to Bisu's new 1-gate pressure into FE corsair). Bisu lost that game to effort, who plays a very new age zvp. As others have noted, jaedong has been sticking to 5 hatch, low drone hydra play which he popularized in 2008/2009. But he totally used effort's opener here was probably playing some mind games here, which didn't go unnoticed by Bisu. On destination, the 2-player map as well as the mind-games of the bo3 and previous bisu BO clearly played a factor for jaedong going 9 pool, and if jaedong hadn't thrown away 3 of the 5 lings that got through (and then another 2 that ran into cannons), he would have been quite ahead. These mind games were probably abundantly clear to a lot of people watching the stream, could have been pointed out more comprehensively, and I think they will be in the future. All it takes is a bit more preparation. They'll get there, give them a chance! | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4757 Posts
On November 20 2016 18:35 Cele wrote: + Show Spoiler + i think you're taking this a little personal. I'm not condescending when i say i liked the cast and i simply mentioned their self-presentation of being an expert doesn't match certain gaps in their ingame knowledge. Yeah im aware- im fact i loved to watch GOM TV Classic Series with Tasteless+Littlesusie and Superdanielman later. Artosis never casted that, but he he did a lot of awesome things. I think i simply have high expectations towards the premier casters of this game. Tastosis casts used to entertain and educate me on the highest level and i'd like to have that back. That would require them to get into touch with the metagame, developments in the game and the competitive scene a bit more than they currently are. Asking for that seems like a reasonable request to me and no "heresy" towards the godstatus of Tastosis, as you seem to perceive it. By the way: Yeah i recall Artosis as a good foreigner, here's a list of his ahcievements achievementst How that makes my point being condescending, is beyond me tho. Sure, I'll elaborate. Firstly, I didn't want this to sound so angry, but I didn't find a direct way to not sound that way so I'm sorry for that I mostly was irked by the comment But they're trying to sell the point that they are super duper experts in the game and the scene a bit to hard when they're not. because, and this is going to be a semantic argument in the end, I didn't get that feel at all. They went for an entertaining cast which catered both to old school and people that have no experience into the esoteric experience that is watching SC:BW.Then your spoilered statement of the average joe is just assumptions made that are entirely fabricated from your viewpoint and make kind of no sense, but that doesn't really matter lol. And your last sentence reiterated the sentiment you already stated before and I guess that made it feel like a bit more condescending to me than I wanted to. From my POV they just tried to deliver an entertaining cast and not seem like they were super duper in the loop or whatever, they just talked about the game, hyped, bantered, gave some basic shit, etc.. And that's not what I expected from an established value that just casted SCII for 6 years or whatever. Anyway, my bad if I sounded a little too harsh or mad or whatever, but I did want to oppose the sentiment you felt, which I completely didn't. | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On November 21 2016 11:01 Uldridge wrote: Sure, I'll elaborate. Firstly, I didn't want this to sound so angry, but I didn't find a direct way to not sound that way so I'm sorry for that I mostly was irked by the comment because, and this is going to be a semantic argument in the end, I didn't get that feel at all. They went for an entertaining cast which catered both to old school and people that have no experience into the esoteric experience that is watching SC:BW. Then your spoilered statement of the average joe is just assumptions made that are entirely fabricated from your viewpoint and make kind of no sense, but that doesn't really matter lol. And your last sentence reiterated the sentiment you already stated before and I guess that made it feel like a bit more condescending to me than I wanted to. From my POV they just tried to deliver an entertaining cast and not seem like they were super duper in the loop or whatever, they just talked about the game, hyped, bantered, gave some basic shit, etc.. And that's not what I expected from an established value that just casted SCII for 6 years or whatever. Anyway, my bad if I sounded a little too harsh or mad or whatever, but I did want to oppose the sentiment you felt, which I completely didn't. fair enough, we're here to disagree from time to time and discuss opinions, no offense taken. i think i was perhaps a bit to provocative in my post, but it stirred a good discussion imo (; So i apologize, if my post came of a bit hyperbole. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2267 Posts
On November 22 2016 02:17 Freezard wrote: Nice event, pretty good games, but I'm more looking forward to ASL where the real action begins. Also excited about BW 2017 after Tastosis' said big things are coming up. Loved their cast although some stuff like the overpool discussion hurt a bit, but I haven't played BW since 2010 and I'm also very rusty and had to think twice about the number of Zealot/Probe hits to kill lings/Drones, so I understand that they're in the same boat. i can totally get that they are rusty and that they can fuck up reading builds or not so deep analisis about the gameplay/strategy. What i can't stand is their sc2 analogies every 2 minutes is annyoing as fk. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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Esp1noza
Russian Federation481 Posts
On November 22 2016 16:43 DyEnasTy wrote: I am sorry, Ive been out of the loop for awhile now. Can someone link me the VODs with Tastosis commentating? Thanks! here | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
Thank you so much! | ||
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byj
494 Posts
On November 20 2016 06:28 IntoTheEmo wrote: they were playing Black Parade (a song they played a lot in old KeSPA tournaments and highlight vids) At some point they also played First to Last - The Latest Plague, reminding me of the awesome | ||
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