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On October 02 2016 09:20 Orite wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2016 00:23 mca64Launcher_ wrote:On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote: Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below. His profile description ingame says 'i never lose' And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone. I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong. Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid. Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have. And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.
Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank. Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet. And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again. How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup). If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past. And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant. i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt Do we have a showmatch?
I would take it, talk to mca64 and koget if they are wanting to.
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On October 02 2016 10:23 LV_426 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2016 08:37 LaStScan wrote:On October 02 2016 07:24 abuse wrote:On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:
And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.
I'm just gonna leave this here -- + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 02:15 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 00:41 kogeT wrote: He is not C rank on fish, much higher skill... I think he's C rank on fish. As for arrogance - it has nothing to do with your past or whatever, im judging my views purely based on this thread. Also there are no 'facts' to be spoken of and absolutely none of the things that you mentioned are to be taken as 'fact'. You don't know what rank this person really is. You don' t know if he's even trying in the games he has shown so far. It is all your opinion. Your opinion is not 'fact'. You thinking it is 'fact' just proves my point. This thread isn't about you, it's about the dong guy. Let's keep it that way. As I said before, just because a C rank can destroy people in iccup, it doesn't mean that this person destroying iccup is C rank.q I took a look at all posts(I thought someone posted about facts, but nvm I was wrong), and I want to say this. that muta micro isn't going to help that much to get near B rank(just based on ZvT matchup). Yes, that's an opinion. My whole point is he's not below C nor above C rank. Probably just max C(last season). So based only on his muta micro, you are saying he is c max? Is it impossible to get b rank with c-lvl micro?
There's a trutacz's post.
"What is the reason of this fight? He is at least C rank level, this is the only thing which we know. How we can judge it? For example by muta micro. We will never know if he is higher or not until someone begs admin for IP and then finger all C-B rank users on fish and match the IP... Why is it more likely that he is C rank player than B or higher? There are no many amateur zergs at B rank level, ex-progamers left. I highly doubt it that any ex-progamer would come ICCup server and hide there, same goes for B rank level users. On fish server if someone is C rank level and that person picks opponent(for example dodge progamers, dodge some matchup, he can make B rank without problem"
It is quite not possible to get b rank with that muta micro level. I'm pretty sure I posted 4 reps somewhere on TL and gave 4 reps to one of my friends. 424(assuming he used previously ziko) micros muta incredible amazing. Muta is always the key of the game in ZvT.
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On October 02 2016 18:20 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: replay DL link doesnt work for me, says something about disallowed characters there's an extra ")" on the end of the link, just remove it
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Last time, gosu on iccup was Bishop. He was one time 1st S class on fish ladder.
On iccup he used to nick http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/tenonymous.html and many more akas, on my ID (czech flag - durahga, jirikara, etc etc...
I have many many his replays from fish server vs pro like bisu, flash, hero, larva etc.. he killed with mutas nada very easy (zerg is his offrace)
and i have every replay from iccup + all other akas (tenonymous + jirikara, duranga, and many more), he always got clearstats +lock acc due to shared acc :D. He had very easy 70-0 A rankm then lock :D
Also he streamed his games on secret twitch.tv especially on iccup to A+ rank, on my ID only for me for $$. So i have many many 1st vods, koget, arcneon, vs lancerx games like vs A+ vs D-.
Vs EdgeGirl he has maybe 10-0. Very easy for him, even vs scan some replays from fish, he always win.
He left to military in april.
If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.
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So a showmatch Scan (Z) vs me (T) if he can beat me 14-0? Really? Also to prove exactly what?
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On October 02 2016 22:56 krocan.cz wrote:Last time, gosu on iccup was Bishop. He was one time 1st S class on fish ladder. On iccup he used to nick http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/tenonymous.html and many more akas, on my ID (czech flag - durahga, jirikara, etc etc... I have many many his replays from fish server vs pro like bisu, flash, hero, larva etc.. he killed with mutas nada very easy (zerg is his offrace) and i have every replay from iccup + all other akas (tenonymous + jirikara, duranga, and many more), he always got clearstats +lock acc due to shared acc :D. He had very easy 70-0 A rankm then lock :D Also he streamed his games on secret twitch.tv especially on iccup to A+ rank, on my ID only for me for $$. So i have many many 1st vods, koget, arcneon, vs lancerx games like vs A+ vs D-. Vs EdgeGirl he has maybe 10-0. Very easy for him, even vs scan some replays from fish, he always win. He left to military in april. If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.
im interested  he won 10:0 vs shinee very easy? i cannot imagine any zerg who could do that.
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Also for our Entertainment :D
It would make for an interesting series of matches, if kogeT could win the prize pool by just winning one out of 14 matches.
Considered that Scan is very gosu and actually... thinking about it again, it's highly likely that dong222 === Scan to begin with.
Scan was maining Zerg for the past months and what about that flag change of dong222 acc from KR to US?
But it would also require that he's intentionally deceiving us :D Beginning with using different hotkeys, even I didn't see any evidence for that yet. So yea, maybe dong222 = max C player indeed, because Scans smurf account where he plays mainly Z on is C afaik and he's just criticizing his own muta micro in this thread.
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On October 02 2016 22:56 krocan.cz wrote: If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.
That would be amazing. Definitely would be interested in that! Especially were it seems somewhat recent (just a few seasons ago).
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I played Duranga, Czech flag, B+ with 63-2 stats. Was that really Bishop?!
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I can play the bet vs scan.
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i heard rumors that dong222 = NW.KimRadleyYong
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On October 03 2016 02:40 endy wrote:I played Duranga, Czech flag, B+ with 63-2 stats. Was that really Bishop?!
yes, i have 15-2 from me playing, than started playing bishop, so bishop didnt lose 1 game, tell me your ID, i can find that rep
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On October 03 2016 03:26 krocan.cz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2016 02:40 endy wrote:I played Duranga, Czech flag, B+ with 63-2 stats. Was that really Bishop?! yes, i have 15-2 from me playing, than started playing bishop, so bishop didnt lose 1 game, tell me your ID, i can find that rep
I beat Duranga, my account was fox]gwa, but he was already B- when i played him so it wasn't you playing the first 15-2.
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the koget vs scan thing can move to a new thread. Let' s not change topics here guys.
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On October 02 2016 22:56 krocan.cz wrote:Last time, gosu on iccup was Bishop. He was one time 1st S class on fish ladder. On iccup he used to nick http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/tenonymous.html and many more akas, on my ID (czech flag - durahga, jirikara, etc etc... I have many many his replays from fish server vs pro like bisu, flash, hero, larva etc.. he killed with mutas nada very easy (zerg is his offrace) and i have every replay from iccup + all other akas (tenonymous + jirikara, duranga, and many more), he always got clearstats +lock acc due to shared acc :D. He had very easy 70-0 A rankm then lock :D Also he streamed his games on secret twitch.tv especially on iccup to A+ rank, on my ID only for me for $$. So i have many many 1st vods, koget, arcneon, vs lancerx games like vs A+ vs D-. Vs EdgeGirl he has maybe 10-0. Very easy for him, even vs scan some replays from fish, he always win. He left to military in april. If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.
Care to upload some replays of him? Playing both zerg and terran preferably.
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On October 02 2016 22:56 krocan.cz wrote:Last time, gosu on iccup was Bishop. He was one time 1st S class on fish ladder. On iccup he used to nick http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/tenonymous.html and many more akas, on my ID (czech flag - durahga, jirikara, etc etc... I have many many his replays from fish server vs pro like bisu, flash, hero, larva etc.. he killed with mutas nada very easy (zerg is his offrace) and i have every replay from iccup + all other akas (tenonymous + jirikara, duranga, and many more), he always got clearstats +lock acc due to shared acc :D. He had very easy 70-0 A rankm then lock :D Also he streamed his games on secret twitch.tv especially on iccup to A+ rank, on my ID only for me for $$. So i have many many 1st vods, koget, arcneon, vs lancerx games like vs A+ vs D-. Vs EdgeGirl he has maybe 10-0. Very easy for him, even vs scan some replays from fish, he always win. He left to military in april. If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.
I would love this, please.
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On October 03 2016 03:04 kogeT wrote:I can play the bet vs scan.  Please do it. If the players can be cocky too it would be perfect and feel like its 2003 again! There was a lot of similar bet like this in Clan X17
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On November 15 2016 10:36 Poly_Optimize wrote:Please do it. If the players can be cocky too it would be perfect and feel like its 2003 again! There was a lot of similar bet like this in Clan X17 
It already happened.
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