Who is that Iccup player..?

On September 28 2016 03:56 ProtossGG wrote:
It could be zelot[kal], he's a top rated Zerg amateur on Fish.

I haven't checked the replays yet, but a possibility.

On September 28 2016 04:01 outscar wrote:
Scan is pretty gosu but I don't remember going him undefeated that long, after all offrace. Guy is 88-0 right now.

On September 28 2016 04:27 LaStScan wrote:


This was me in the past ^^
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On September 28 2016 12:01 XenOsky- wrote:
somebody told me its effort.

On September 28 2016 14:00 jimminy_kriket wrote:
yeah its not effort i've checked it against most current zergs I could think of and have come up empty. No idea who it is really maybe zimp or romad will see this thread.

On September 28 2016 16:06 abuse wrote:
I was looking at iccup rankings yesterday evening and noticed the same person as well as the koget games and was very puzzled on who this was.

It is 100% a korean though, as pretty much all of his first games played (at D rank) were vs koreans.

i'm really hoping it's + Show Spoiler +dong222 , but not much of a chance there.
At work currently but will definitely look through the reps, as I'm very curious about what this guy does.
This guy is definitely at the very least B in iccup though, judging by the Scan's 'hatchery' stats, and this guy beating that pretty convincingly.

that being said, could this not be just shinee again? No surprise that he would have gotten better over time.

also, 88 games in 4 days D: why would a random korean do this on iccup.

On September 28 2016 19:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
yeah many people considered him to be stx calm but then calm started streaming and he wasn't that impressive.

is a mistery a player like this can win bisu but doesn't play tourneys or stream

On September 28 2016 12:01 XenOsky- wrote:
somebody told me its effort.

On September 28 2016 21:52 abuse wrote:
He actually played against a lot of very good players, including several koreans with 100% win rates up until they met him.

getting 100% win ratio for so many games is not comparable to getting 90% win ratio.
losing 10 games out of a hundred is much easier than going 90 wins, 0 losses.

On September 28 2016 22:40 B-royal wrote:
So apparently it's not scan, sorry for that Koget. Scan deceived me pretty well in that case :O

On September 28 2016 16:55 kogeT wrote:


Shinee is terran.

On September 29 2016 00:41 kogeT wrote:
He is not C rank on fish, much higher skill...

On September 29 2016 02:27 kogeT wrote:
I would love to see Scan vs dong. I can borrow the account when needed/

On October 01 2016 02:29 LV_426 wrote:
imo it has to be B+ lvl zerg (fish) - decent chance for pro/semi pro then..
You can see in the match list, none of those games were even close (judging from points) - you could argue with zvz, but still..
It would be pretty unlikely for C lvl zerg to get 100% win ratio with so many onesided games(not impossible, but less likely).

On October 01 2016 04:02 kogeT wrote:
I played vs C rank zergs and they were not even close that good.

On October 01 2016 04:09 ProtossGG wrote:


Probably weren't trying... This guy probably is actually trying because he wants to humiliate the foreigners and go 100%.

I play people on fish all the time who are D/C and they play off race / chat with their followers on afreecaTV while in game / etc. Doesn't mean anything that you played one C rank and this was much different.

My point is, the capability of a true D/C to come to iccup and do this is really no surprise and I hope people stop being so shocked. Just use bonyth's stats from last season as some context for you all.

On October 01 2016 04:35 LV_426 wrote:

All of them are skilled enough to get top1 icc with 100% win ratio, but imo most likely this guy was B +

On October 01 2016 04:35 LV_426 wrote:



Bonyth had 109-17 and that proves what?
He was doing pretty well on fish anyway..
i watch fish streamers quite often and i can see difference between C/B/D players..
All of them are skilled enough to get top1 icc with 100% win ratio, but imo most likely this guy was B +

On October 01 2016 04:02 kogeT wrote:
I played vs C rank zergs and they were not even close that good.

On October 01 2016 04:09 ProtossGG wrote:


Probably weren't trying... This guy probably is actually trying because he wants to humiliate the foreigners and go 100%.

I play people on fish all the time who are D/C and they play off race / chat with their followers on afreecaTV while in game / etc. Doesn't mean anything that you played one C rank and this was much different.

My point is, the capability of a true D/C to come to iccup and do this is really no surprise and I hope people stop being so shocked. Just use bonyth's stats from last season as some context for you all.

On October 01 2016 04:35 LV_426 wrote:



Bonyth had 109-17 and that proves what?
He was doing pretty well on fish anyway..
i watch fish streamers quite often and i can see difference between C/B/D players..
All of them are skilled enough to get top1 icc with 100% win ratio, but imo most likely this guy was B +

On October 01 2016 06:45 ProtossGG wrote:


It proves that someone like Bonyth who is E/D can get 90% type statistics on iccup.... You're telling me a TRUE D/C fish player which means that person is levels above Bonyth can't do better aka get 100% on icc? That is my point. None of this should be a shock to anyone.

Also when you said you can "tell the difference between D/C/B" - I'm not trying to argue with you because I don't really care about this anymore; it's not shocking to me. But just know, unless you're a very high level player yourself, you can't easily distinguish at these levels lol. Even Scan posted earlier in here after watching one replay that the guy couldn't be B rank just based on his muta micro. Scan's opinion and analysis > yours, sorry.

On October 01 2016 06:58 LaStScan wrote:


Le last sentence.. Too much pressure on me :o :o :o

On October 01 2016 06:55 LaStScan wrote:


I think dong222 is max C rank zerg to my eyes

On October 01 2016 10:28 LV_426 wrote:



im confused, now ladder system is different?
if he is C rank zerg right now, maybe he was B few months ago? or maybe he wasnt lying about his A max? (from like 2 years ago?)
I saw foreigners hit B/C ranks, so its kinda confusing..

On October 01 2016 07:26 ProtossGG wrote:


Well, I'm just trying to be logical here. That's all. I play Fish as well, I'm just an E rank player myself, not good, but good for foreigners, I guess. So I know the ropes and what goes on in Fish. I know that a D rank player can come to iccup and crush us all. That's why none of this is a surprise to me. Thanks for supporting my statements against these people

On October 01 2016 06:45 ProtossGG wrote:
Even Scan posted earlier in here after watching one replay that the guy couldn't be B rank just based on his muta micro. Scan's opinion and analysis > yours, sorry.

On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote:
Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below.
His profile description ingame says 'i never lose'
And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone.
I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong.
Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid.
Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have.
And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.

Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank.

On October 01 2016 20:21 LV_426 wrote:



yeach sure - we can assume he cant be B 100%, because Scan saw his muta's micro in 1 game and said that ...

seems legit

On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:


Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet.

How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup).

If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past.

And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk

For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant.

On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:


Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet.
And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.

How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup).

If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past.

And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk

For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant.

On October 02 2016 00:23 outscar wrote:
He must be Sziky, he just got tried from LotV where he stuck at masters (?) so he came back to smash some noobs to regain his confidence.

On October 02 2016 00:35 Pokebunny wrote:

scan is pretty good at sc2, he was beating me in macro games after a couple months of playing and was top 50 gm while playing 2 games

On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:

And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.

On October 02 2016 07:24 abuse wrote:


I'm just gonna leave this here --

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As for arrogance - it has nothing to do with your past or whatever, im judging my views purely based on this thread.
Also there are no 'facts' to be spoken of and absolutely none of the things that you mentioned are to be taken as 'fact'.
You don't know what rank this person really is. You don' t know if he's even trying in the games he has shown so far. It is all your opinion. Your opinion is not 'fact'.
You thinking it is 'fact' just proves my point.

This thread isn't about you, it's about the dong guy. Let's keep it that way.
As I said before, just because a C rank can destroy people in iccup, it doesn't mean that this person destroying iccup is C rank.

On October 02 2016 08:37 LaStScan wrote:


I took a look at all posts(I thought someone posted about facts, but nvm I was wrong), and I want to say this.
that muta micro isn't going to help that much to get near B rank(just based on ZvT matchup). Yes, that's an opinion.

My whole point is he's not below C nor above C rank. Probably just max C(last season).

On October 02 2016 00:23 mca64Launcher_ wrote:



i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt

On October 02 2016 11:41 trutaCz wrote:
What is the reason of this fight?

On October 02 2016 09:20 Orite wrote:


Do we have a showmatch?

On October 02 2016 10:23 LV_426 wrote:

So based only on his muta micro, you are saying he is c max?
Is it impossible to get b rank with c-lvl micro?

On October 02 2016 18:20 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
replay DL link doesnt work for me, says something about disallowed characters

On October 02 2016 22:56 krocan.cz wrote:
Last time, gosu on iccup was Bishop. He was one time 1st S class on fish ladder.

On iccup he used to nick http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/tenonymous.html and many more akas, on my ID (czech flag - durahga, jirikara, etc etc...

I have many many his replays from fish server vs pro like bisu, flash, hero, larva etc.. he killed with mutas nada very easy (zerg is his offrace)

and i have every replay from iccup + all other akas (tenonymous + jirikara, duranga, and many more), he always got clearstats +lock acc due to shared acc :D. He had very easy 70-0 A rankm then lock :D

Also he streamed his games on secret twitch.tv especially on iccup to A+ rank, on my ID only for me for $$. So i have many many 1st vods, koget, arcneon, vs lancerx games like vs A+ vs D-.

Vs EdgeGirl he has maybe 10-0. Very easy for him, even vs scan some replays from fish, he always win.

He left to military in april.

If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.

On October 02 2016 23:00 kogeT wrote:
So a showmatch Scan (Z) vs me (T) if he can beat me 14-0? Really? Also to prove exactly what?

On October 03 2016 02:40 endy wrote:


I played Duranga, Czech flag, B+ with 63-2 stats. Was that really Bishop?!

On October 02 2016 22:56 krocan.cz wrote:
Last time, gosu on iccup was Bishop. He was one time 1st S class on fish ladder.

On iccup he used to nick http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/tenonymous.html and many more akas, on my ID (czech flag - durahga, jirikara, etc etc...

I have many many his replays from fish server vs pro like bisu, flash, hero, larva etc.. he killed with mutas nada very easy (zerg is his offrace)

and i have every replay from iccup + all other akas (tenonymous + jirikara, duranga, and many more), he always got clearstats +lock acc due to shared acc :D. He had very easy 70-0 A rankm then lock :D

Also he streamed his games on secret twitch.tv especially on iccup to A+ rank, on my ID only for me for $$. So i have many many 1st vods, koget, arcneon, vs lancerx games like vs A+ vs D-.

Vs EdgeGirl he has maybe 10-0. Very easy for him, even vs scan some replays from fish, he always win.

He left to military in april.

If somebody interested i can make take all replays and make replaypack + vods.

On October 03 2016 03:04 kogeT wrote:
I can play the bet vs scan.

On November 15 2016 10:36 Poly_Optimize wrote:

Please do it. If the players can be cocky too it would be perfect and feel like its 2003 again! There was a lot of similar bet like this in Clan X17