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On October 01 2016 07:26 ProtossGG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 06:58 LaStScan wrote:On October 01 2016 06:45 ProtossGG wrote:On October 01 2016 04:35 LV_426 wrote:On October 01 2016 04:09 ProtossGG wrote:On October 01 2016 04:02 kogeT wrote:
I played vs C rank zergs and they were not even close that good. Probably weren't trying... This guy probably is actually trying because he wants to humiliate the foreigners and go 100%. I play people on fish all the time who are D/C and they play off race / chat with their followers on afreecaTV while in game / etc. Doesn't mean anything that you played one C rank and this was much different. My point is, the capability of a true D/C to come to iccup and do this is really no surprise and I hope people stop being so shocked. Just use bonyth's stats from last season as some context for you all. Bonyth had 109-17 and that proves what? He was doing pretty well on fish anyway.. i watch fish streamers quite often and i can see difference between C/B/D players.. All of them are skilled enough to get top1 icc with 100% win ratio, but imo most likely this guy was B + It proves that someone like Bonyth who is E/D can get 90% type statistics on iccup.... You're telling me a TRUE D/C fish player which means that person is levels above Bonyth can't do better aka get 100% on icc? That is my point. None of this should be a shock to anyone. Also when you said you can "tell the difference between D/C/B" - I'm not trying to argue with you because I don't really care about this anymore; it's not shocking to me. But just know, unless you're a very high level player yourself, you can't easily distinguish at these levels lol. Even Scan posted earlier in here after watching one replay that the guy couldn't be B rank just based on his muta micro. Scan's opinion and analysis > yours, sorry. Le last sentence.. Too much pressure on me :o :o :o Well, I'm just trying to be logical here. That's all. I play Fish as well, I'm just an E rank player myself, not good, but good for foreigners, I guess. So I know the ropes and what goes on in Fish. I know that a D rank player can come to iccup and crush us all. That's why none of this is a surprise to me. Thanks for supporting my statements against these people 
Who are you again?
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On October 01 2016 06:45 ProtossGG wrote:
Even Scan posted earlier in here after watching one replay that the guy couldn't be B rank just based on his muta micro. Scan's opinion and analysis > yours, sorry.
yeach sure - we can assume he cant be B 100%, because Scan saw his muta's micro in 1 game and said that ...
seems legit
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On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote:
Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below.
His profile description ingame says 'i never lose'
And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone.
I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong.
Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid.
Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have.
And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.
Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank.
Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet.
And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.
How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup).
If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past.
And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk
For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant.
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On October 01 2016 20:21 LV_426 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 06:45 ProtossGG wrote:
Even Scan posted earlier in here after watching one replay that the guy couldn't be B rank just based on his muta micro. Scan's opinion and analysis > yours, sorry. yeach sure - we can assume he cant be B 100%, because Scan saw his muta's micro in 1 game and said that ... seems legit
I saw all of his games through his rec vid.
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On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote:
Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below.
His profile description ingame says 'i never lose'
And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone.
I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong.
Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid.
Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have.
And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.
Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank. Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet. How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup). If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past. And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant.
Scan, nobody is talking about you vs koget, now go find the dong222 and break his winning streak. Thanks
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On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote:
Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below.
His profile description ingame says 'i never lose'
And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone.
I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong.
Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid.
Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have.
And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.
Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank. Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet. And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again. How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup). If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past. And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant.
i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt
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He must be Sziky, he just got tired from LotV where he stuck at masters (?) so he came back to smash some noobs to regain his confidence.
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On October 02 2016 00:23 outscar wrote:
He must be Sziky, he just got tried from LotV where he stuck at masters (?) so he came back to smash some noobs to regain his confidence.
scan is pretty good at sc2, he was beating me in macro games after a couple months of playing and was top 50 gm while playing 2 games
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On October 02 2016 00:35 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2016 00:23 outscar wrote:
He must be Sziky, he just got tried from LotV where he stuck at masters (?) so he came back to smash some noobs to regain his confidence. scan is pretty good at sc2, he was beating me in macro games after a couple months of playing and was top 50 gm while playing 2 games
Oh hey, I didn't know you take a look at BW forums XD
Have you found a new team yet?
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On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:
And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.
I'm just gonna leave this here --
+ Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 02:15 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 00:41 kogeT wrote:
He is not C rank on fish, much higher skill... I think he's C rank on fish.
As for arrogance - it has nothing to do with your past or whatever, im judging my views purely based on this thread.
Also there are no 'facts' to be spoken of and absolutely none of the things that you mentioned are to be taken as 'fact'.
You don't know what rank this person really is. You don' t know if he's even trying in the games he has shown so far. It is all your opinion. Your opinion is not 'fact'.
You thinking it is 'fact' just proves my point.
This thread isn't about you, it's about the dong guy. Let's keep it that way.
As I said before, just because a C rank can destroy people in iccup, it doesn't mean that this person destroying iccup is C rank.
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On October 02 2016 07:24 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:
And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.
I'm just gonna leave this here -- + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 02:15 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 00:41 kogeT wrote:
He is not C rank on fish, much higher skill... I think he's C rank on fish. As for arrogance - it has nothing to do with your past or whatever, im judging my views purely based on this thread. Also there are no 'facts' to be spoken of and absolutely none of the things that you mentioned are to be taken as 'fact'. You don't know what rank this person really is. You don' t know if he's even trying in the games he has shown so far. It is all your opinion. Your opinion is not 'fact'. You thinking it is 'fact' just proves my point. This thread isn't about you, it's about the dong guy. Let's keep it that way. As I said before, just because a C rank can destroy people in iccup, it doesn't mean that this person destroying iccup is C rank.
I took a look at all posts(I thought someone posted about facts, but nvm I was wrong), and I want to say this.
that muta micro isn't going to help that much to get near B rank(just based on ZvT matchup). Yes, that's an opinion.
My whole point is he's not below C nor above C rank. Probably just max C(last season).
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On October 02 2016 00:23 mca64Launcher_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote:
Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below.
His profile description ingame says 'i never lose'
And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone.
I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong.
Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid.
Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have.
And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.
Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank. Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet. And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again. How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup). If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past. And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant. i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt
Do we have a showmatch?
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On October 02 2016 08:37 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2016 07:24 abuse wrote:On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:
And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again.
I'm just gonna leave this here -- + Show Spoiler +On September 29 2016 02:15 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2016 00:41 kogeT wrote:
He is not C rank on fish, much higher skill... I think he's C rank on fish. As for arrogance - it has nothing to do with your past or whatever, im judging my views purely based on this thread. Also there are no 'facts' to be spoken of and absolutely none of the things that you mentioned are to be taken as 'fact'. You don't know what rank this person really is. You don' t know if he's even trying in the games he has shown so far. It is all your opinion. Your opinion is not 'fact'. You thinking it is 'fact' just proves my point. This thread isn't about you, it's about the dong guy. Let's keep it that way. As I said before, just because a C rank can destroy people in iccup, it doesn't mean that this person destroying iccup is C rank.q I took a look at all posts(I thought someone posted about facts, but nvm I was wrong), and I want to say this. that muta micro isn't going to help that much to get near B rank(just based on ZvT matchup). Yes, that's an opinion. My whole point is he's not below C nor above C rank. Probably just max C(last season).
So based only on his muta micro, you are saying he is c max?
Is it impossible to get b rank with c-lvl micro?
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What is the reason of this fight? He is at least C rank level, this is the only thing which we know. How we can judge it? For example by muta micro. We will never know if he is higher or not until someone begs admin for IP and then finger all C-B rank users on fish and match the IP... Why is it more likely that he is C rank player than B or higher? There are no many amateur zergs at B rank level, ex-progamers left. I highly doubt it that any ex-progamer would come ICCup server and hide there, same goes for B rank level users. On fish server if someone is C rank level and that person picks opponent(for example dodge progamers, dodge some matchup, he can make B rank without problem
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On October 02 2016 00:23 mca64Launcher_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:On October 01 2016 17:03 abuse wrote:
Honestly it is silly to think that he is c or below.
His profile description ingame says 'i never lose'
And just look at his matchlist. He is playing against anyone. Not only top foreigners but also all the koreans that come into his scope. That is supreme confidence that he cant lose vs anyone. A random C player wouldnt have that. Not while playing vs koreans on iccup and not knowing who they really are. This guy doesnt care, he plays vs anyone.
I think all our 'fish players' here who are saying he is a random person are ignorant and wrong.
Hell, even from the reps and streams, there is no way to know that he is actually trying in his games and judging a person only by muta micro is stupid.
Yes foreigners are way weaker than koreans but just cause we people here dont actually play on fish does not mean we have no brains and cant tell the approx rank of a player. Chances are we have seen more fish gameplay than you have.
And while it might not be the case with scan, he is arrogant and his comments here are basically just saying that koget is not a good enough player to judge a players skill. I bet he didnt even watch more than 1-2 games. So his words are to be taken with a bucket of salt.
Just because a C rank player can come to iccup and crush everyone does not mean every crusher who comes to iccup is c rank. Lmao. I watched all of his 3 hours vods against dong. You lost your bet. And I never said he is c or below. Please read the post again. How am i arrogant? Is a player pointing out a fact makes you to think that way? Maybe you should talk with more korean players who are at C rank and then tell me im wrong about my judgement where i stated his muta micro is not good enough for B rank(zvt matchup). If you are still living in the past where a lot of ppl were talking trash about me and saying im arrogant, then gl living in the past. And i think you are the one didnt even watch the vods before you post a comment on here cuz its sad how flooding resources that koget had and supply block mostly or just loses army easily. I also came to his stream and sent msg to go att1 5rax multiple times every game when he started, but he chose to go valk For my last word, i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod. This time you can think im arrogant with my word. And at the same time, you need to realize the words between fact and arrogant. i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt
I donate 20$ more to the pot.
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On October 02 2016 11:41 trutaCz wrote:
What is the reason of this fight?
General interest, the thread theme is legit. It's an impressive run and it's natural to want to know who that is. All that ranking bullshit is slightly over the top though, especially when people turn it into some elitist show.
On a different note though, what baffles me the most is a point mca made about maphacks. I don't say the guy hacks, it's just that it reminds me of NEagle or what the nick was. NEagle clearly cheated, but still dropped some games in the ladder despite his unfair advantage and having a rather high rank on FISH - back when we compared him, he was a Top250 user over there as well.
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On October 01 2016 23:15 LaStScan wrote:
i probably will be able to take down koget 14-0 for zvt match up by knowing where kogets level is after watching the vod.
grudge match please.
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replay DL link doesnt work for me, says something about disallowed characters
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Maybe Luxury or fake Yellow?
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