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On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...
As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it.
On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable.
Don't worry dude I got you covered:
-But don't you know that BW graphics are old?
-Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game?
-BW people are elitist
-BW people are suffering from nostalgia
-Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2
-Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2?
-SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist?
-It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game.
-BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash.
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On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable.
I wouldn't call it being 'stuck', I perfectly understand that people can prefer Brood War over StarCraft II for myriad of reasons, it can be anything from nostalgia to differences in mechanics between the two. I just don't get why it's so cool in being overly protective of something you like by throwing shit at the other thing.
I guess I can't into internet or I'm just oblivious to how fake of StarCraft fan I am.
And your last sentence surely has truth to it, it's no longer a job to them so they do whatever they feel comfortable in. And it's great. They can feel comfortable there for many reasons too. I'd even dare to think that it's possible that some of them (I don't really know old guard that well) are in it for money from streaming, didn't decide what to do with themselves since KeSPA switched to SC2 etc.
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On May 20 2016 19:53 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...
As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it. Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable. Don't worry dude I got you covered: -But don't you know that BW graphics are old? -Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game? -BW people are elitist -BW people are suffering from nostalgia -Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2 -Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2? -SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist? -It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game. -BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash.
I can bet all my money you havent played brood war enough to make any comments.
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On May 20 2016 20:01 A.Alm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 19:53 duke91 wrote:On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...
As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it. On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable. Don't worry dude I got you covered: -But don't you know that BW graphics are old? -Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game? -BW people are elitist -BW people are suffering from nostalgia -Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2 -Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2? -SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist? -It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game. -BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash. I can bet all my money you havent played brood war enough to make any comments.
I have enough Brood war experience. I once played the BW campaign mod for SC2!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51621 Posts
On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable.
how is BW the inferior game?
you say it with such conviction, please prove to us how its inferior, show us the light!
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On May 20 2016 20:04 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 20:01 A.Alm wrote:On May 20 2016 19:53 duke91 wrote:On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...
As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it. On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable. Don't worry dude I got you covered: -But don't you know that BW graphics are old? -Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game? -BW people are elitist -BW people are suffering from nostalgia -Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2 -Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2? -SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist? -It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game. -BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash. I can bet all my money you havent played brood war enough to make any comments. I have enough Brood war experience. I once played the BW campaign mod for SC2!
Quickly browsing through your post history I believe you. You are the impersonation of true StarCraft (no SC2).
I'm surprised you were able to run SC2 though, is it playable in 640x480?
PS. I don't hate Brood War.
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Poland2042 Posts
Asking all these stupid questions about brood war is like asking why people still play this old, boring game of chess.
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Can everyone stfu already about SC2 vs BW? The whole thread was moved here to focus the discussion on Jaedong and possible stream and Afreeca not on the retarded SC2 vs BW.
You like SC2? Fine go play SC2.
You like BW? Fine go BW.
JUST STFU ALREADY!
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Japan11821 Posts
On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
- I'm stuck in the Brood War era? yes
- Good old times 10 years ago? No, that's too long. Take away 10 years from that and you have the true date.
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On May 20 2016 20:19 kogeT wrote:
Asking all these stupid questions about brood war is like asking why people still play this old, boring game of chess.
I too prefer the prequel trilogy Star Wars to the original trilogy Star Wars. They added super cool characters like Jar-Jar and Anakin. Also the special effects are much better. I wonder why people are so nostalgic about the original trilogy while you have to suffer from the outdated special effects.
Oh btw I never watched the original trilogy till the end, just the first 10 minutes. It already convinced me that you old geezers are just suffering from nostalgia. Go with the future old men!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51621 Posts
Knock it off duke, you've made your point.
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I must admit that I only really started watching BW when HotS was in beta. WoL was an okay game and I enjoyed watching it most of the time. But with SC2 its a few good matches in a sea of shitty ones. With BW its good games all the times. When I watch commentary of BW pro matches every single match is just great fun. I dont have that same feeling when watching SC2. And I really tried to like SC2 back then.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51621 Posts
On May 20 2016 20:15 aQuaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 20:04 duke91 wrote:On May 20 2016 20:01 A.Alm wrote:On May 20 2016 19:53 duke91 wrote:On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...
As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it. On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable. Don't worry dude I got you covered: -But don't you know that BW graphics are old? -Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game? -BW people are elitist -BW people are suffering from nostalgia -Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2 -Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2? -SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist? -It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game. -BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash. I can bet all my money you havent played brood war enough to make any comments. I have enough Brood war experience. I once played the BW campaign mod for SC2! Quickly browsing through your post history I believe you. You are the impersonation of true StarCraft (no SC2). I'm surprised you were able to run SC2 though, is it playable in 640x480? PS. I don't hate Brood War.
you don't seem to have much of an opinion of BW either, would you be interested in trying out the game when shieldbattery goes public, if nothing else it would be an interesting experience.
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On May 20 2016 21:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 20:15 aQuaSC wrote:On May 20 2016 20:04 duke91 wrote:On May 20 2016 20:01 A.Alm wrote:On May 20 2016 19:53 duke91 wrote:On May 20 2016 19:41 aQuaSC wrote:
As someone who didn't get to enjoy BW fully due to lack of access to internet until before SC2 release and currently enjoying SC2 I feel like a public enemy here. Talk about elitism...
As for Jaedong, best of luck to him in whatever direction he chooses. It'd be nice to hop on his BW stream if he decides to go into it. On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable. Don't worry dude I got you covered: -But don't you know that BW graphics are old? -Why don't people hop to the newer, ergo better game? -BW people are elitist -BW people are suffering from nostalgia -Pros returning to BW just are too bad for the competition in SC2 -Broodwar is old and dead guys, why don't you play SC2? -SC2 is more strategical compared to BW, which is all mechanics with no MBS. It's a strategy game in the end. Also look at the LOL people being so inferior with regards to mechanics/apm, haha noobs. Did I forget to mention that BW people are elitist? -It's not that Blizzard tried to kill BW and forced Kespa to switch to SC2 in order to promote SC2. It would have been inevitable since SC2 is the newer game. -BW streams getting 10 times more viewers than SC2? Oh it must be that all of the BW progamer streamers are using viewbots. In reality, Wintergaming has more actual viewers than Flash. I can bet all my money you havent played brood war enough to make any comments. I have enough Brood war experience. I once played the BW campaign mod for SC2! Quickly browsing through your post history I believe you. You are the impersonation of true StarCraft (no SC2). I'm surprised you were able to run SC2 though, is it playable in 640x480? PS. I don't hate Brood War. you don't seem to have much of an opinion of BW either, would you be interested in trying out the game when shieldbattery goes public, if nothing else it would be an interesting experience.
I haven't played BW in.. god only knows how long, but if that shield battery gets up and running i'm gonna give it a go again for sure.
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Well, finally, god damn it.
Now, my dream is fulfilled!
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Bisutopia19391 Posts
Anyone who posts Sc2 vs BW arguments from here on out will have their text replaced with images of Jaedong w/ Bisu.
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On May 20 2016 19:47 SpiritOfChicago wrote:
I wonder why people are still stuck in the Broodwar era. Is it because of the good old times ~10 years ago that were full of hype for the game?
What is the reason in playing an outdated game that is inferior to it's evolution? Flash, Jaedong and other popular Korean BW streames must be.. lost. Now that their pro gaming careers are over they don't know what to do, so they go back to what they know best and where they feel most comfortable.
User was temp banned for this post.
Oh you. Perhaps there are a number of people who realize BW being more enjoyable to them seeing as a good number had the pleasure of experiencing both.
It's not like a few pro's spoke candidly about preferring the original to the sequel.
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Poland2042 Posts
On May 20 2016 20:29 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2016 20:19 kogeT wrote:
Asking all these stupid questions about brood war is like asking why people still play this old, boring game of chess. I too prefer the prequel trilogy Star Wars to the original trilogy Star Wars. They added super cool characters like Jar-Jar and Anakin. Also the special effects are much better. I wonder why people are so nostalgic about the original trilogy while you have to suffer from the outdated special effects. Oh btw I never watched the original trilogy till the end, just the first 10 minutes. It already convinced me that you old geezers are just suffering from nostalgia. Go with the future old men!
Well from that post I must say that you're just a troll.
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YAY! Welcome back JD!
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I should be one of the poster children for the BW vs SC2 argument. I played Sc2 first, never even touched brood war besides maybe 5 games with my brother when I was 8-10 years old (all he did was make bunkers, tech to battlecruisers and beat my stupid ass lmao).
I'm now 23 years old and even though I was an enormous fan of wc3 the frozen throne, which was literally my childhood, playing it almost every single day for hours on end, I can't help but admit that brood war is the better designed game.
I graduated from high school and during the summer of 2010, Sc2 was released. I had been looking forward to this game for maybe two years, ever since I read about its development in a local gaming magazine. I was still fervently playing wc3 back then, but my competitive spark was slowly dying out. I partially attribute it to the new meta developments in wc3 with night elf making only druids of the talon and human constantly doing tower rushes with sorceres (I was an orc player).
During the summer before college, I started massively playing Sc2. I got to diamond in a matter of a week (which was the highest rank at the time, masters and grandmasters didn't even exist as far as I recall). The game was quite fun although it did suffer from some obvious balancing issues (mass reapers, 70 damage tanks on lost temple,...) at the time. After playing for 2 months however, I was getting insanely frustrated with the state of the game and with certain aspects of the game. I disliked forcefields and warp-ins and I intensely hated colossi. I also stopped watching professional Sc2 as I found them to bore me because almost all games followed the same pattern. One big army clashing with another. The only good match up was ZvT, which was still exciting. Then someone introduced me to professional brood war. I started watching some vods and I was hooked.
When I enrolled in college, I tried brood war, but I couldn't host any games. I knew that I also wouldn't be able to host games for wc3 so I switched to a MOBA called heroes of newerth (I didn't want to play wc3 on a cheap laptop anyway). I played this game for about 3-4 years until the workload became too much in the form of papers and eventually my thesis.
Then august last year after my graduation, I picked up brood war again. I must admit that it was a huge struggle to STICK with the game. There were crashes, different launchers, not being able to host any games, a complete dearth of games on iccup, lots of hassles with trying to play on Fish and so on... Eventually I figured out to host, which has made my life A LOT easier.
What about the game itself? At first there were definitely some huge frustrations, it took me quite a lot of games until I could at least get a 50% win rate at the D/D+ level. I lost to a lot of protoss shenanigans, I lost a lot to the inexorable terran powertrain that are marine/medic/tanks. But as I started to get at least familiar with how the game flows and got a feel for the way units behave, I started falling in love with it. Brood war is the MOST intense game I've ever played, it's got INSANELY cool fights and units and I honestly even ADORE the graphics (Sure they could be of higher quality, but I like the dark atmosphere and the eerie units and voices, honestly I still get scared by the zealot attack sound haha).
And one of the best things about this game is that it's probably the best balanced game out there.
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