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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 02 2017 05:21 GMT
#2601
On September 02 2017 05:59 pheer wrote:
I do notice that the SD graphics on SC:R are a lot worse looking than SB. Tec, didn't you do something to make the graphic scaling less jagged? When I play SC:R I am always pressing F5 for fun, but I swear it looks more pixelated than SB on 1.16

nope, I think blizzard changed something in the way SD is implemented in RM because it's noticeably worse compared to SB and if you just run BW by itself (not on sb).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
September 02 2017 06:47 GMT
#2602
On September 02 2017 14:21 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 05:59 pheer wrote:
I do notice that the SD graphics on SC:R are a lot worse looking than SB. Tec, didn't you do something to make the graphic scaling less jagged? When I play SC:R I am always pressing F5 for fun, but I swear it looks more pixelated than SB on 1.16

nope, I think blizzard changed something in the way SD is implemented in RM because it's noticeably worse compared to SB and if you just run BW by itself (not on sb).


They said they had to change the graphic renderer that the game is built on in order to support stuff like dynamic lighting. So it's not too surprising that would have some negative impact on the SD mode.
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Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
September 02 2017 08:27 GMT
#2603
is this going to be compatible with remastered?
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 12:01:46
September 02 2017 12:00 GMT
#2604
On September 02 2017 15:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2017 14:21 BigFan wrote:
On September 02 2017 05:59 pheer wrote:
I do notice that the SD graphics on SC:R are a lot worse looking than SB. Tec, didn't you do something to make the graphic scaling less jagged? When I play SC:R I am always pressing F5 for fun, but I swear it looks more pixelated than SB on 1.16

nope, I think blizzard changed something in the way SD is implemented in RM because it's noticeably worse compared to SB and if you just run BW by itself (not on sb).


They said they had to change the graphic renderer that the game is built on in order to support stuff like dynamic lighting. So it's not too surprising that would have some negative impact on the SD mode.



does that make any sense or is it more likely to just assume it's about pushing sale numbers?
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Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
September 02 2017 12:25 GMT
#2605
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
September 02 2017 12:27 GMT
#2606
BW became a pixelated mess as early as patch 1.18, presumably as a result of fixing the rainbow colors bug and other issues.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3383 Posts
September 02 2017 14:42 GMT
#2607
I still use SB from time to time. I do not like the HD for protoss (and I m P) so I play in low D with remastered too. I only use HD for campaign or when i play T/Z or random multiplayer.

But in SB it s funnier, I know several people there, we have great games (race wars) and overall a pretty nice atmosphere. I find the new bnet less cold as SC2's but still bother me such as all the issues with the friend list ( /f m, /f a)
For instance not being able to discuss with your opponent after any ranked game in a easy way (cant click on the profile in the scorescreen...) makes for a tedious process to meet anybody new.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 02 2017 21:14 GMT
#2608
I tried SB today but could not create a game. Just kept getting a failed to initialize game error. I pointed it to a directory with the old 1.16 executable, which used to work for SB. Not sure why it is failing now, but I haven't been on Shield Battery since it was browser only.

1.18 bnet used to be pretty playable, but 1.20 is dropping frames and making my cursor lag like crazy. I had to resort to iccup today, which is not ideal since my friend can't get it to work in a correct aspect ratio. He didn't have iccup launcher running, so we played one game in 2001 style input lag T.T 1.20 also somehow made the game look like it was compressed like hell, probably some issue with not actually changing my monitor resolution to something appropriate.

Feels like there is no BW for old men anymore. It is weird how bad Blizzard's new bnet interface is, with these off-client interfaces that take literally 5 minutes to load a login menu on a 6 year old laptop (but with a perfectly fast internet connection). Unsure what's wrong with my install of BW for SB, but I guess I would have to get a fresh install to really figure it out. Things are starting to get to be too much work for these old bones that play SC just about once every two months.

I dunno how Blizzard turned BW into a game that can only run on new computers. Part of the reason I play BW is because I don't update my hardware I have an old windows computer that used to be good, and I'm not going to spend hours trying to get BW to feel right on a modern mac (because hint hint it never will).

Anyway, just venting. Initialize error is probably something weird on my end. Maybe I pointed it to the wrong backup SC folder, I have about 3 or 4 now
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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
September 02 2017 21:51 GMT
#2609
you are like the 0,1% that does not upgrade his pc after ....what 10years+?
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
September 02 2017 22:20 GMT
#2610
He has a point though, it takes a long time for that Blizzard App to load as well as BW. Before it took like 2s to start BW, now it is at least a minute for me.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-02 22:44:39
September 02 2017 22:43 GMT
#2611
On September 03 2017 07:20 Cryoc wrote:
He has a point though, it takes a long time for that Blizzard App to load as well as BW. Before it took like 2s to start BW, now it is at least a minute for me.


on my pc from 2012 it takes 2sec to load (without ssd)
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
September 02 2017 22:53 GMT
#2612
I mean Blizzard App plus BW. BW takes like 5s now but until that App is ready...
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 02 2017 23:05 GMT
#2613
On September 03 2017 07:53 Cryoc wrote:
I mean Blizzard App plus BW. BW takes like 5s now but until that App is ready...

What kind of PC are you running? it legit takes me 2 seconds to load up the blizzard app O_o
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 03 2017 00:32 GMT
#2614
On September 03 2017 06:51 onlystar wrote:
you are like the 0,1% that does not upgrade his pc after ....what 10years+?

Oh how I laughed at people who upgraded their OS and couldn't run SC anymore, or had weird aspect ratio problems. Truly the tables have turned

But no, you're wrong. On my modern 1.7 GHz 8GB RAM SSD computer it takes a century to patch to 1.20. They've probably got a myriad of junky reporting code in there giving them the sweet stats in the background as they walk your entire file tree to append smiley faces at the bottom of each file. You should be able to run 100 instances of this game on your modern gaming rig and see no slowdown, not pushing your hardware for a 20 year old game. Think how sad I am on my 1.6 GHz 3GB of RAM windows laptop, which is the only windows machine I have around. 3GB of RAM was practically a super computer in 1998! Face facts, their patch is dog tier. Damn my new computer isn't even that much more powerful. People used to dream of this kind of power! The power to run 100s of instances of StarCraft! Now look at what we've become! We think people won't notice our sneaky calculations just because the gamer elite all buy a new PC every 2 years to play the newest Dark Souls in ultra HD.
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shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
September 03 2017 07:49 GMT
#2615
Same here, brethren. My laptop is only 3 years old, it can run newer and more demanding games, runs 1.16 no problem, but 1.20.... the blizz app... May be it's only a laptop problem? How many of us having the same problems? Will blizzard do anything about it? Iccup is like 50 people online at times :S
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
September 03 2017 08:15 GMT
#2616
is this compatible with HD remastered version?
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
September 03 2017 08:29 GMT
#2617
On September 03 2017 08:05 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2017 07:53 Cryoc wrote:
I mean Blizzard App plus BW. BW takes like 5s now but until that App is ready...

What kind of PC are you running? it legit takes me 2 seconds to load up the blizzard app O_o

AMD FX 4300 Quad Core @ 3.8GHz, 8 GB RAM, Geforce GT 630.
Do you want to tell me, that I need a current high-end PC to not have load times from 20 years ago for a game from 20 years ago?
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
September 03 2017 14:32 GMT
#2618
is this compatible with remastered?
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
November 03 2017 17:29 GMT
#2619
any news on ShieldBattery, current status? Will it be open-sourced finally?

latest info I took from this thread was around March, wrt the then announced SCR:


On March 26 2017 14:47 tec27 wrote:
Just to give you all an update given the announcements today, work on ShieldBattery will definitely be continuing


I would still be interested in using it with 1.16.1.
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v1
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Estonia787 Posts
November 03 2017 18:49 GMT
#2620
It went open source many months ago: https://github.com/ShieldBattery/ShieldBattery
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