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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
January 20 2016 20:06 GMT
#81
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 20 2016 20:25 GMT
#82
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 20:36:16
January 20 2016 20:35 GMT
#83
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

Show nested quote +
- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju


I sure do respect him even more after this. I think fans do appreciate when their idols don't make fun of themselves for the sake of balloons...
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
January 20 2016 20:56 GMT
#84
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

Show nested quote +
- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju
wow respect Stork <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
January 20 2016 21:01 GMT
#85
Wow is that guy on the screenshot Bisu? Looks quite different than the progamer in pictures
WriterMaru
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
January 20 2016 21:17 GMT
#86
that's what not having any eyebrows can do to you..
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8510 Posts
January 20 2016 21:26 GMT
#87
Yeah, Stork is a great personality. Wasn't it him and Sea that spoke hard words during the match fixing scandal?
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
January 21 2016 00:57 GMT
#88
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?
I am a tournament organizazer.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 01:21:22
January 21 2016 01:16 GMT
#89
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting)

eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future.

hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here...
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
January 21 2016 05:34 GMT
#90
post it!
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
January 21 2016 07:17 GMT
#91
On January 21 2016 10:16 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting)

eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future.

hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here...

Yes please.

I've been intrigued ever since the series because it's one thing to download Bisu reps and watch them while practicing for the finals, it's another to be telling Terror what to do and watch what Bisu does in reaction via maphack. In other words, I'm very interested as to what Effort has to say about this.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
January 21 2016 07:32 GMT
#92
What's Flash's ID?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 21 2016 08:12 GMT
#93
On January 21 2016 16:32 dRaW wrote:
What's Flash's ID?



Hodo
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8510 Posts
January 21 2016 08:39 GMT
#94
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33399 Posts
January 21 2016 08:55 GMT
#95
On January 21 2016 05:35 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju


I sure do respect him even more after this. I think fans do appreciate when their idols don't make fun of themselves for the sake of balloons...


meh, it's easy to moralize when you're getting salaried by a mega corporation
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
January 21 2016 09:38 GMT
#96
On January 21 2016 17:12 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 16:32 dRaW wrote:
What's Flash's ID?



Hodo


This is not confirmed. Also Hodo seems to play a lot of protoss and doesn't have too impressive statistics.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
January 21 2016 10:23 GMT
#97
On January 21 2016 10:16 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting)

eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future.

hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here...


Yes please.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
January 21 2016 14:02 GMT
#98
Yay for Bisu, raking in dat dough, gotta save up before military service hehe, best of luck to him.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 17:02:52
January 21 2016 17:02 GMT
#99
Afreeca viewers can become really abusive at time, and I myself do not have favourable impressions of the site due to high density of streamers who adopt crazy practices just to attract them balloons and stars.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 21 2016 19:18 GMT
#100
On January 22 2016 02:02 Hesmyrr wrote:
Afreeca viewers can become really abusive at time, and I myself do not have favourable impressions of the site due to high density of streamers who adopt crazy practices just to attract them balloons and stars.


I don't see how that is really any different than Twitch. Why call out Afreeca specifically?
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