On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right
Stork was right
what did he say? oO
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lastride
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On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote: Stork was right what did he say? oO | ||
eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote: what did he say? oO He spoke out against some streaming practices - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? ▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju | ||
Wrath
3174 Posts
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote: On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote: Stork was right what did he say? oO He spoke out against some streaming practices Show nested quote + - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? ▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju I sure do respect him even more after this. I think fans do appreciate when their idols don't make fun of themselves for the sake of balloons... | ||
lastride
2390 Posts
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote: wow respect Stork <3Show nested quote + On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote: On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote: Stork was right what did he say? oO He spoke out against some streaming practices Show nested quote + - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? ▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
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Miragee
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alexanderzero
United States659 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote: Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun? this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting) eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future. hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here... | ||
The Intrepid
Canada205 Posts
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Jealous
10158 Posts
On January 21 2016 10:16 Probemicro wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote: Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun? this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting) eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future. hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here... Yes please. I've been intrigued ever since the series because it's one thing to download Bisu reps and watch them while practicing for the finals, it's another to be telling Terror what to do and watch what Bisu does in reaction via maphack. In other words, I'm very interested as to what Effort has to say about this. | ||
dRaW
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Wrath
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On January 21 2016 16:32 dRaW wrote: What's Flash's ID? Hodo | ||
Miragee
8510 Posts
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote: Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun? Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33399 Posts
On January 21 2016 05:35 WrathSCII wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote: On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote: On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote: Stork was right what did he say? oO He spoke out against some streaming practices - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? ▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju I sure do respect him even more after this. I think fans do appreciate when their idols don't make fun of themselves for the sake of balloons... meh, it's easy to moralize when you're getting salaried by a mega corporation | ||
kogeT
Poland2039 Posts
On January 21 2016 17:12 WrathSCII wrote: Hodo This is not confirmed. Also Hodo seems to play a lot of protoss and doesn't have too impressive statistics. | ||
Barbarne
Sweden458 Posts
On January 21 2016 10:16 Probemicro wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote: Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun? this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting) eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future. hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here... Yes please. | ||
EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On January 22 2016 02:02 Hesmyrr wrote: Afreeca viewers can become really abusive at time, and I myself do not have favourable impressions of the site due to high density of streamers who adopt crazy practices just to attract them balloons and stars. I don't see how that is really any different than Twitch. Why call out Afreeca specifically? | ||
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