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nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 12:49:52
January 19 2016 14:53 GMT
#1
If there already is a topic about this then im sorry but I find myself being really curious about how much money Bisu gets from streaming every day.

Right now he has 15k viewers, which is insane. But usually when i watch him he has 2-5k which is also alot. Now he regularly gets donations, but I have no clue how much.
1000 balloons = 70$?

So my question is basically, does anyone have any idea of his monthly income from streaming=)?

Edit: Also the more info about his eyebrows the better. this turned out hilarious :D
Jaedong fucking beast
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
January 19 2016 15:15 GMT
#2
A little bit unrelated but I think Bisu is shaving off his eyebrows because he lost to Terror. He'll be looking extra dandy this saturday LOL.
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:20:49
January 19 2016 15:19 GMT
#3
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINALS WILL BE FUN
(he lost 2-3 to terror, loser shaves eyebrow. terror gets maphack handicap)
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:47:45
January 19 2016 15:21 GMT
#4
On January 20 2016 00:15 B-royal wrote:
A little bit unrelated but I think Bisu is shaving off his eyebrows because he lost to Terror. He'll be looking extra dandy this saturday LOL.



[image loading]

Money changes everything. sigh.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 19 2016 15:23 GMT
#5
19k viewers for Bisu now:

[image loading]

WR on TL hype?
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
deus_073
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Romania187 Posts
January 19 2016 15:23 GMT
#6
20k balloons!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:30:46
January 19 2016 15:25 GMT
#7
terror revealing that effort has been watching beside him all along AHAHAHAHAH LMAO

anyway it seems it wasn't really shaved too cleanly (btw that pic from thouhast is not the final product), it won't look that bad by saturday
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:32:28
January 19 2016 15:28 GMT
#8
41k viewers :O

Did Bisu really shave his eyebrows?

[image loading]
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
toriak
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia477 Posts
January 19 2016 15:30 GMT
#9
42000 now ?!?
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 19 2016 15:30 GMT
#10
42000 Blaze it
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 19 2016 15:32 GMT
#11
Bisu went off as I typed lol
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:46:26
January 19 2016 15:32 GMT
#12
It is known that Terror gets $36K per month for doing this. (according to himself)

[image loading]

And Bisu gets approximately $8-12K per month.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:42:51
January 19 2016 15:33 GMT
#13
On January 20 2016 00:28 c3rberUs wrote:
41k viewers :O

Did Bisu really shave his eyebrows?

[image loading]

Haha yeah he did he was turning his cam on and off

EDIT: I found the vod
TL+ Member
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 19 2016 15:42 GMT
#14
so how is tastosis going to explain afreeca shenanigans to the sc2 viewers? "Yes, that is bisu, I have no clue where his eyebrows went"
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 19 2016 15:49 GMT
#15
wat
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 19 2016 15:54 GMT
#16
Somehow I no longer want Flash to stream on Afreeca...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 15:58:04
January 19 2016 15:56 GMT
#17
On January 20 2016 00:54 Musicus wrote:
Somehow I no longer want Flash to stream on Afreeca...


look at shuttle, he makes more than Bisu does and does not get involved with terror.

don't get involved in a bet match with terror.

On December 31 2015 15:16 prech wrote:
Noticed some folks have been tracking Afreeca balloon intakes of late, not sure if they've figured out a backdoor or something. Saw this compilation on YGOSU showing the December donations for most of the top BJs.

Pretty sure it's not complete, as some popular names are not included, but it gives a good sense of what some of the BW progamers have been earning and the potential for future on-comers, may it be Flash or others:

rank // name // balloons // USD
20 (Z)Terror 359k ~27k (took 1.5 weeks off for Christmas)
32 (P)Shuttle 304k ~20k
52 (P)Zeus 203k ~$13k
53 (P)Best 203k ~$13k
59 (P)Bisu 183k ~$12k (took week off for Christmas)
61 (T)Sea 177k ~11k
68 (Z)Larva 147k ~9k
78 (P)Britney 149k ~$8k (took week off for Christmas)
85 (T)NaDa 100k ~$7k
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 16:02:51
January 19 2016 15:58 GMT
#18
uhhhhhh. The things money does to people -.-

[image loading]

[image loading]
rip passion
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
January 19 2016 16:02 GMT
#19
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 16:04:55
January 19 2016 16:04 GMT
#20
On January 20 2016 01:02 B-royal wrote:
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.

uhhh don't think this has anything to do with the game they play, famous internet personalities messing with each other.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 19 2016 16:10 GMT
#21
On January 20 2016 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:02 B-royal wrote:
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.

uhhh don't think this has anything to do with the game they play, famous internet personalities messing with each other.


Roight. BW scene is becoming something like WWE.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 19 2016 16:13 GMT
#22
On January 20 2016 01:10 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 20 2016 01:02 B-royal wrote:
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.

uhhh don't think this has anything to do with the game they play, famous internet personalities messing with each other.


Roight. BW scene is becoming something like WWE.


not that the spartan training regime and disciplining of KeSPA was all that great either, its easy to bash both but this has more to do with losing a bet with terror than it does with the entire scene itself.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 19 2016 16:19 GMT
#23
Bisu not your eyebrows! NOOOO! ;_;
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 16:22:20
January 19 2016 16:21 GMT
#24
On January 20 2016 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:02 B-royal wrote:
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.

uhhh don't think this has anything to do with the game they play, famous internet personalities messing with each other.


What about shuttle then, I thought he doesn't engage in antics? Also, I was referring to the list of earnings through streaming..
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 19 2016 16:22 GMT
#25
On January 20 2016 01:10 Thouhastmail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 20 2016 01:02 B-royal wrote:
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.

uhhh don't think this has anything to do with the game they play, famous internet personalities messing with each other.


Roight. BW scene is becoming something like WWE.


Terror needed to tie Bisu down to a chair and shave it himself

rip passion
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 19 2016 16:23 GMT
#26
of course some people get offended when they see their idol/favorite players doing comedic things "THEY SHOULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES AND BEHAVE LIKE HOLY SAINTS, NOT DOING RANDOM SILLY THINGS LIKE HUMANS".

and so what if its all an act? as long as its not criminal or downright shady/offensive, its fine enough. at the end of the day its still a job, they need to do something to feed their mouths. just like how ordinary people have to withstand the 9-5 tedum doing thankless stuff. people probably growing jelly of their donation amounts
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 19 2016 16:24 GMT
#27
On January 20 2016 01:21 B-royal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 20 2016 01:02 B-royal wrote:
Insane earnings, koreans love their starcraft hahahah.

uhhh don't think this has anything to do with the game they play, famous internet personalities messing with each other.


What about shuttle then, I thought he doesn't engage in antics?


shuttle is an entertaining personality, he engages with his audience during and in between games, his viewers enjoy him, plus all he does is play against hero all day, my only complaint is that he plays against hero too much.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 19 2016 16:28 GMT
#28
not his eyebrow..... his eyebrow is beautiful
well at least it's not his beautiful hair
btw how did he lost to Terror
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 19 2016 16:29 GMT
#29
On January 20 2016 01:28 NinjaToss wrote:
not his eyebrow..... his eyebrow is beautiful
well at least it's not his beautiful hair
btw how did he lost to Terror


handicap, he let him use maphax.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 19 2016 16:30 GMT
#30
Don't worry guys, VANT will fix him up for this saturday with their high quality selection of VANT products
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
lolcookie
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia17 Posts
January 19 2016 16:33 GMT
#31
I hope this doesn't cause issues with the sponsor...
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 19 2016 16:34 GMT
#32
On January 20 2016 01:30 amazingxkcd wrote:
Don't worry guys, VANT will fix him up for this saturday with their high quality selection of VANT products


Do they have some sort of hair regrowth products? right when the shaving began i realise this could be an absolutely brilliant marketing ploy by VANT lol
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 19 2016 16:36 GMT
#33
On January 20 2016 01:30 amazingxkcd wrote:
Don't worry guys, VANT will fix him up for this saturday with their high quality selection of VANT products

I'm very worried about his usual handsome appearance
ah I want to cry, not right 4 days before his important finals...
they better do their job right
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
January 19 2016 16:39 GMT
#34
I bet he makes all this money from matchfixing! Somebody is clearly paying him to win voluntarily!
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 19 2016 16:40 GMT
#35
On January 20 2016 01:36 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:30 amazingxkcd wrote:
Don't worry guys, VANT will fix him up for this saturday with their high quality selection of VANT products

I'm very worried about his usual handsome appearance
ah I want to cry, not right 4 days before his important finals...
they better do their job right


They'll use a black marker to draw his eyebrows
rip passion
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 19 2016 16:43 GMT
#36
On January 20 2016 01:40 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 01:36 NinjaToss wrote:
On January 20 2016 01:30 amazingxkcd wrote:
Don't worry guys, VANT will fix him up for this saturday with their high quality selection of VANT products

I'm very worried about his usual handsome appearance
ah I want to cry, not right 4 days before his important finals...
they better do their job right


They'll use a black marker to draw his eyebrows


I was gonna make a sharpie joke.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5485 Posts
January 19 2016 16:43 GMT
#37
Had to post this on reddit.

https://redd.it/41pgl5
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5485 Posts
January 19 2016 16:45 GMT
#38
The real question is if Bisu can win against Effort without his beautiful eyebrows!
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 19 2016 16:48 GMT
#39
Bisu skills is amazing so I have no doubt, but this might be his last finals before going to the military and HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS EYEBROWS, how will this go down the history.... =(
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5485 Posts
January 19 2016 17:06 GMT
#40
On January 20 2016 01:48 NinjaToss wrote:
Bisu skills is amazing so I have no doubt, but this might be his last finals before going to the military and HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS EYEBROWS, how will this go down the history.... =(


First his eyebrows then his hair T.T

All of his beauty will slowly erode away.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 19 2016 17:30 GMT
#41
Dank memes incoming from this.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 19 2016 17:32 GMT
#42
Broodwar lives!!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
January 19 2016 17:50 GMT
#43
They'll grow back.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 19 2016 17:58 GMT
#44
On January 20 2016 02:50 riotjune wrote:
They'll grow back.

By that time he'll look like Saitama, after losing some more bets.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5485 Posts
January 19 2016 17:59 GMT
#45
On January 20 2016 02:58 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 02:50 riotjune wrote:
They'll grow back.

By that time he'll look like Saitama, after losing some more bets.


One Punch Toss?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
January 19 2016 19:04 GMT
#46
Well at least the hair is safe...
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valas991
Profile Joined September 2014
Hungary181 Posts
January 19 2016 19:15 GMT
#47
After Bisu reached 15+ k viewers, I just couldn't watch the stream.
Not even this method worked
http://defiler.ru/?ft=4444

"Men Live And Die, Memories Form And Fade, Everything Has Its End... Except Music... Music Will Never Die..."
DekkuM
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States149 Posts
January 19 2016 19:36 GMT
#48
Pretty sure Bisu said that he makes more streaming than he ever made on a pro team, even when he was winning MSLs left and right.
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 19 2016 19:44 GMT
#49
Maybe all this is just mind games to lure EffOrt into a false sense of security.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6219 Posts
January 19 2016 20:23 GMT
#50
On January 20 2016 04:36 DekkuM wrote:
Pretty sure Bisu said that he makes more streaming than he ever made on a pro team, even when he was winning MSLs left and right.

I'd shave my eyebrows for that kind of money.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 19 2016 21:13 GMT
#51
Change OP's thread to "Bisu shaved eyebrows" because this title is so confusing.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 19 2016 21:15 GMT
#52
The thread got hijacked.

Also, eyebrow growth can take from a few months to a year. Pretty boy as we know it is gone. All over a bet.
rip passion
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 19 2016 21:16 GMT
#53
I lost my faith in humanity...again. This thread makes me sad.

On January 20 2016 04:36 DekkuM wrote:
Pretty sure Bisu said that he makes more streaming than he ever made on a pro team, even when he was winning MSLs left and right.


Didn't he make 6 figures a year on SKT? I thought he was somewhat close to 200k/yr or something.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
January 19 2016 21:24 GMT
#54
If Bisu shaved his eyebrows then I guess I have to as well. It's what any true fan would do.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 19 2016 21:36 GMT
#55
On January 20 2016 06:24 BisuDagger wrote:
If Bisu shaved his eyebrows then I guess I have to as well. It's what any true fan would do.


IMO you must do it only if this finals gonna be SSL11 dejavu 0-3 stomp again.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 19 2016 22:07 GMT
#56
On January 20 2016 06:24 BisuDagger wrote:
If Bisu shaved his eyebrows then I guess I have to as well. It's what any true fan would do.


Lol stream it. Prove your loyalty to Bisu
rip passion
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
January 19 2016 23:46 GMT
#57
terror the patron saint of afreeca
?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
January 20 2016 00:31 GMT
#58
On January 20 2016 06:36 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 06:24 BisuDagger wrote:
If Bisu shaved his eyebrows then I guess I have to as well. It's what any true fan would do.


IMO you must do it only if this finals gonna be SSL11 dejavu 0-3 stomp again.

I'll do the eyebrow bet with YOU, outscar, that it won't happen. Chicken?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
January 20 2016 01:43 GMT
#59
I heard a rumor that it was effort who played the games that terror won, if that's true I guess I wouldn't be surprised about terror doing something like that, but it seems rather mean from effort. Although that would make it a truly genius prank. It would also explain the picture with him looking smug with effort in the background.

Could someone who speaks Korean confirm or deny this rumor please?
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 01:57:09
January 20 2016 01:53 GMT
#60
On January 20 2016 10:43 Barbarne wrote:
Could someone who speaks Korean confirm or deny this rumor please?


that was the first thing that viewers in the chinese longzhu stream chat thought of as well.
the whole series is now out on YT so you can judge for yourself. kek


BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
January 20 2016 02:01 GMT
#61
On January 20 2016 10:43 Barbarne wrote:
I heard a rumor that it was effort who played the games that terror won, if that's true I guess I wouldn't be surprised about terror doing something like that, but it seems rather mean from effort. Although that would make it a truly genius prank. It would also explain the picture with him looking smug with effort in the background.

Could someone who speaks Korean confirm or deny this rumor please?


if that were true, this would be the first grudge match finals.......LOOOOOOL
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 20 2016 02:33 GMT
#62
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of fangirls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 04:50 GMT
#63
On January 20 2016 11:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On January 20 2016 10:43 Barbarne wrote:
I heard a rumor that it was effort who played the games that terror won, if that's true I guess I wouldn't be surprised about terror doing something like that, but it seems rather mean from effort. Although that would make it a truly genius prank. It would also explain the picture with him looking smug with effort in the background.

Could someone who speaks Korean confirm or deny this rumor please?


if that were true, this would be the first grudge match finals.......LOOOOOOL


Stardust actually said that on his stream last night. EffOrt played the games that Terror won and all of it was fake from the start. Just like a WWE match.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1408 Posts
January 20 2016 05:09 GMT
#64
On January 20 2016 11:33 duke91 wrote:
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of fangirls suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened


LMAO
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 20 2016 05:29 GMT
#65
This thread is hilarious.

RIP Bisu's eyebrows though
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 20 2016 06:14 GMT
#66
So Bisu agreed to a series knowing that he would lose and shave his eyebrows, but he did anyway for the baloons and the lulz?
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 06:30 GMT
#67
On January 20 2016 15:14 NinjaToss wrote:
So Bisu agreed to a series knowing that he would lose and shave his eyebrows, but he did anyway for the baloons and the lulz?


He did not know he would lose, he got trolled by Terror and EffOrt. The prize was 30,000 balloons, but after he lost, Terror donated 20,000 saying "I don't want my GF to be sad".
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
January 20 2016 06:37 GMT
#68
On January 20 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 15:14 NinjaToss wrote:
So Bisu agreed to a series knowing that he would lose and shave his eyebrows, but he did anyway for the baloons and the lulz?


He did not know he would lose, he got trolled by Terror and EffOrt. The prize was 30,000 balloons, but after he lost, Terror donated 20,000 saying "I don't want my GF to be sad".

Wow. Burn squad over here asap.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 06:48 GMT
#69
On January 20 2016 15:37 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
On January 20 2016 15:14 NinjaToss wrote:
So Bisu agreed to a series knowing that he would lose and shave his eyebrows, but he did anyway for the baloons and the lulz?


He did not know he would lose, he got trolled by Terror and EffOrt. The prize was 30,000 balloons, but after he lost, Terror donated 20,000 saying "I don't want my GF to be sad".

Wow. Burn squad over here asap.


Bisu's face says it all.

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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 20 2016 06:51 GMT
#70
Ahhh, poor Bisu and his eyebrows. He should never have associated with Terror in such a high risk bet anyway. This is so really mean though, Bisu is after all too pure for these kind of things
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 20 2016 06:54 GMT
#71
its fine if they did this after the VNSL finals...

well thanks to this im sure everyone is stoked for the finals even more than before. great/hilarious move by kongdoo and VANT
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 20 2016 07:01 GMT
#72
I would only believe in the power of VANT if they can put the eyebrows back on Bisu's face
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 20 2016 07:10 GMT
#73
On January 20 2016 16:01 NinjaToss wrote:
I would only believe in the power of VANT if they can put the eyebrows back on Bisu's face


What a sick marketing plan. Betting and lose on purpose and then come back after 4 days with his eyebrows back and holding a VANT product saying "Thanks VANT for restoring my eyebrows!"
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 20 2016 07:53 GMT
#74
I need to stop reading this thread.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
January 20 2016 11:00 GMT
#75
Still wonder what Bisu ever done to them to make them want Bisu shaving his eyebrows so desperately. As we Vietnamese tend to say: handsome is not a crime
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 12:15:48
January 20 2016 12:12 GMT
#76
If you're handsome you're bound to have ugly enemies :x
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 20 2016 14:33 GMT
#77
Enjoyed every minute of it watching it live.

5/5
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
January 20 2016 18:41 GMT
#78
Bisu was so sad... so so sad....
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 20 2016 19:07 GMT
#79
Stork was right
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 20:57:54
January 20 2016 20:06 GMT
#80
So Bisu sold out. Hope Flash doesnt get involved with that type of shenanigans. (I hope he doesnt get involved with bw at all atm-bw has gone downhill unfortunately)
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
January 20 2016 20:06 GMT
#81
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 20 2016 20:25 GMT
#82
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 20:36:16
January 20 2016 20:35 GMT
#83
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

Show nested quote +
- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju


I sure do respect him even more after this. I think fans do appreciate when their idols don't make fun of themselves for the sake of balloons...
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
January 20 2016 20:56 GMT
#84
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

Show nested quote +
- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju
wow respect Stork <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
January 20 2016 21:01 GMT
#85
Wow is that guy on the screenshot Bisu? Looks quite different than the progamer in pictures
WriterMaru
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
January 20 2016 21:17 GMT
#86
that's what not having any eyebrows can do to you..
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 20 2016 21:26 GMT
#87
Yeah, Stork is a great personality. Wasn't it him and Sea that spoke hard words during the match fixing scandal?
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
January 21 2016 00:57 GMT
#88
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?
I am a tournament organizazer.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 01:21:22
January 21 2016 01:16 GMT
#89
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting)

eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future.

hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here...
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
January 21 2016 05:34 GMT
#90
post it!
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
January 21 2016 07:17 GMT
#91
On January 21 2016 10:16 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting)

eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future.

hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here...

Yes please.

I've been intrigued ever since the series because it's one thing to download Bisu reps and watch them while practicing for the finals, it's another to be telling Terror what to do and watch what Bisu does in reaction via maphack. In other words, I'm very interested as to what Effort has to say about this.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
January 21 2016 07:32 GMT
#92
What's Flash's ID?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 21 2016 08:12 GMT
#93
On January 21 2016 16:32 dRaW wrote:
What's Flash's ID?



Hodo
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
January 21 2016 08:39 GMT
#94
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33399 Posts
January 21 2016 08:55 GMT
#95
On January 21 2016 05:35 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:06 lastride wrote:
On January 21 2016 04:07 ne4aJIb wrote:
Stork was right

what did he say? oO

He spoke out against some streaming practices

- Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them?

▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/433875-interview-stork-after-soju


I sure do respect him even more after this. I think fans do appreciate when their idols don't make fun of themselves for the sake of balloons...


meh, it's easy to moralize when you're getting salaried by a mega corporation
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
January 21 2016 09:38 GMT
#96
On January 21 2016 17:12 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 16:32 dRaW wrote:
What's Flash's ID?



Hodo


This is not confirmed. Also Hodo seems to play a lot of protoss and doesn't have too impressive statistics.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
January 21 2016 10:23 GMT
#97
On January 21 2016 10:16 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


this. people forget (or are ignorant) that afreeca isn't only about antics, and their vitriol hurts the streamers that do not partake in them. (some being sc2 bias obviously have an agenda to latch onto and start shooting)

eventually by fan request, I bet that even stork will show some games on afreeca in the future.

hmm i recently seen a translation of what effort said on his personal stream about this "eyebrow series", kinda amusing and sad at the same time. i wonder if i should post it here...


Yes please.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
January 21 2016 14:02 GMT
#98
Yay for Bisu, raking in dat dough, gotta save up before military service hehe, best of luck to him.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 17:02:52
January 21 2016 17:02 GMT
#99
Afreeca viewers can become really abusive at time, and I myself do not have favourable impressions of the site due to high density of streamers who adopt crazy practices just to attract them balloons and stars.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 21 2016 19:18 GMT
#100
On January 22 2016 02:02 Hesmyrr wrote:
Afreeca viewers can become really abusive at time, and I myself do not have favourable impressions of the site due to high density of streamers who adopt crazy practices just to attract them balloons and stars.


I don't see how that is really any different than Twitch. Why call out Afreeca specifically?
Wat
Dragoons
Profile Joined January 2012
140 Posts
January 21 2016 21:06 GMT
#101
terror vods
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SbZooVl3fs

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogd089MNoGw
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 04:30:54
January 22 2016 04:29 GMT
#102
bisu eyebrows! so funny haha

about ex-progamer streaming and getting money - i don't see anything wrong with that. that's what happens when bw is no longer as its peak, plus they need to earn money and streaming is decent. it's just similar to uploading vids in youtube hoping to get millions of views for money. also, if i would win the lottery, i would be very happy to pay bisu huge sum of money to stream and i would sponsor bw games.

anyways, i'm so excited for sat. now i wonder how bisu would look like in that new eyebrow do of his. well, he's going to military soon. must start to shave some hair, so why not start with the eyebrows? haha
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
January 22 2016 08:07 GMT
#103
On January 21 2016 17:39 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.


This is... just. It's hard to be polite.

Bisu of all people can do so many things with his life. Despite being 26 he has earned hundreds of thousands in prize money alone, and probably way more from progaming salary, sponsorships, commercials, TV appearances, etc. If he didn't enjoy streaming on Afreeca then I highly doubt he would be doing it. He can do anything he wants. He's young, hot, and famous.

And the way you compare self-deprecating humor as being "close to prostitution." Come on, man. Do you have any idea what being a prostitute is like?
I am a tournament organizazer.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 22 2016 16:12 GMT
#104
On January 20 2016 09:31 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 06:36 outscar wrote:
On January 20 2016 06:24 BisuDagger wrote:
If Bisu shaved his eyebrows then I guess I have to as well. It's what any true fan would do.


IMO you must do it only if this finals gonna be SSL11 dejavu 0-3 stomp again.

I'll do the eyebrow bet with YOU, outscar, that it won't happen. Chicken?


That's too risky. I will rather shave my head than wait my eyebrows to grow back as Leonid Brejnev's.
sunbeams are never made like me...
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 22 2016 16:39 GMT
#105
On January 22 2016 17:07 alexanderzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 17:39 Miragee wrote:
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.


This is... just. It's hard to be polite.

Bisu of all people can do so many things with his life. Despite being 26 he has earned hundreds of thousands in prize money alone, and probably way more from progaming salary, sponsorships, commercials, TV appearances, etc. If he didn't enjoy streaming on Afreeca then I highly doubt he would be doing it. He can do anything he wants. He's young, hot, and famous.

And the way you compare self-deprecating humor as being "close to prostitution." Come on, man. Do you have any idea what being a prostitute is like?


I agree 100% with you.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
January 22 2016 16:55 GMT
#106
On January 22 2016 17:07 alexanderzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 17:39 Miragee wrote:
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.


This is... just. It's hard to be polite.

Bisu of all people can do so many things with his life. Despite being 26 he has earned hundreds of thousands in prize money alone, and probably way more from progaming salary, sponsorships, commercials, TV appearances, etc. If he didn't enjoy streaming on Afreeca then I highly doubt he would be doing it. He can do anything he wants. He's young, hot, and famous.

And the way you compare self-deprecating humor as being "close to prostitution." Come on, man. Do you have any idea what being a prostitute is like?

But you have no idea if he got to keep anything besides his salary. Plus if he isn't confident in getting another job anytime soon then why not try to bank hard now?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
January 22 2016 17:04 GMT
#107
On January 23 2016 01:55 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 17:07 alexanderzero wrote:
On January 21 2016 17:39 Miragee wrote:
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.


This is... just. It's hard to be polite.

Bisu of all people can do so many things with his life. Despite being 26 he has earned hundreds of thousands in prize money alone, and probably way more from progaming salary, sponsorships, commercials, TV appearances, etc. If he didn't enjoy streaming on Afreeca then I highly doubt he would be doing it. He can do anything he wants. He's young, hot, and famous.

And the way you compare self-deprecating humor as being "close to prostitution." Come on, man. Do you have any idea what being a prostitute is like?

But you have no idea if he got to keep anything besides his salary. Plus if he isn't confident in getting another job anytime soon then why not try to bank hard now?

He can get another job at any time, really. The question is if he can get a GREAT job.

I have no doubt that Bisu would be the first pick over random pimpled high school kids for most low-end jobs. I have no doubt that his keyboard usage would do the same for jobs like data entry, etc. The only place I have doubts is whether he can get a strong desk job; I mean, he hasn't been in school for how long? How far in school did he get? Was he really dedicated to school when he was there? Star power can only get you so far.

However, we have seen other success stories out of BW, like Nada and XellOs, so maybe Bisu could be another one.

But for now you are right, why not bank 12k USD a month (actually more since he missed 1 week, practically 1/4 of his potential earnings)? I sure as fuck would.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
January 22 2016 17:52 GMT
#108
On January 23 2016 02:04 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:55 sabas123 wrote:
On January 22 2016 17:07 alexanderzero wrote:
On January 21 2016 17:39 Miragee wrote:
On January 21 2016 09:57 alexanderzero wrote:
Man people are so stuck up. I guess programers aren't allowed to have fun?


Only because it's fun for use doesn't necessarily mean it's fun for them. I mean, there probably are people who like being publicly disgraced but I think most people do it to earn money and not for fun. And if that's the case we are pretty close to prostitution.


This is... just. It's hard to be polite.

Bisu of all people can do so many things with his life. Despite being 26 he has earned hundreds of thousands in prize money alone, and probably way more from progaming salary, sponsorships, commercials, TV appearances, etc. If he didn't enjoy streaming on Afreeca then I highly doubt he would be doing it. He can do anything he wants. He's young, hot, and famous.

And the way you compare self-deprecating humor as being "close to prostitution." Come on, man. Do you have any idea what being a prostitute is like?

But you have no idea if he got to keep anything besides his salary. Plus if he isn't confident in getting another job anytime soon then why not try to bank hard now?

He can get another job at any time, really. The question is if he can get a GREAT job.

I have no doubt that Bisu would be the first pick over random pimpled high school kids for most low-end jobs. I have no doubt that his keyboard usage would do the same for jobs like data entry, etc. The only place I have doubts is whether he can get a strong desk job; I mean, he hasn't been in school for how long? How far in school did he get? Was he really dedicated to school when he was there? Star power can only get you so far.

However, we have seen other success stories out of BW, like Nada and XellOs, so maybe Bisu could be another one.

But for now you are right, why not bank 12k USD a month (actually more since he missed 1 week, practically 1/4 of his potential earnings)? I sure as fuck would.

He joined his first team at the age of 15, so I doubt he went to school much after that. I don't know at what age koreans finish highschool but I doubt he would be a first pick just because of his name (might be, but remember hes fame is a really long time ago)

Also Nada and Xellos are 2 names of the hunderds of programers, Is there a decent list anywhere of what pro's have retired into?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 17:55:44
January 22 2016 17:53 GMT
#109
On January 22 2016 06:06 Dragoons wrote:
terror vods
+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SbZooVl3fs

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogd089MNoGw


https://youtu.be/ogd089MNoGw?t=59m15s

Easily the best part. 59m15s ->
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
June 13 2016 00:28 GMT
#110
No wonder Bisu keeps postponing the military -- $12k in minutes

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Afreeca stream
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
June 13 2016 01:05 GMT
#111
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 01:41:41
June 13 2016 01:33 GMT
#112
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons

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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 01:54:50
June 13 2016 01:53 GMT
#113
Bisu's daily balloon earnings (from 29 May 2016)

29 May
19631

30 May
8132

1 June
19819

2 June
19718

3 June
13417

4 June
17863

5 June
20347

6 June
15818

7 June
16173

8 June
26145

9-11 June
went to china (alleged appearance fee as mentioned by DHD ~150k yuan)

12 June
186097
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 02:13:58
June 13 2016 02:13 GMT
#114
he received 180k balloons from one user yesterday. fucking insane.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
June 13 2016 02:26 GMT
#115
On June 13 2016 10:33 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons


The BMW thing was an allusion to an old TL joke, sorry ^^;

Who is the person he donated most to?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
June 13 2016 02:30 GMT
#116
On June 13 2016 11:26 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 10:33 Probemicro wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons


The BMW thing was an allusion to an old TL joke, sorry ^^;

Who is the person he donated most to?


BJ 셀리

Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
June 13 2016 02:33 GMT
#117
On June 13 2016 11:30 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 11:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:33 Probemicro wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons


The BMW thing was an allusion to an old TL joke, sorry ^^;

Who is the person he donated most to?


BJ 셀리


I can understand why Bisu was 2nd now. Question then is, who was in 3rd?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51462 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-13 03:23:00
June 13 2016 03:21 GMT
#118
LOL BJ Sally is still around? I remember I was obsessed with her during my high school years.

^
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4th. Sea
5th. Heo Yoon-ji
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shakigami
Profile Joined November 2013
219 Posts
June 13 2016 06:40 GMT
#119
On June 13 2016 12:21 GTR wrote:
LOL BJ Sally is still around? I remember I was obsessed with her during my high school years.

^
3rd. Im Ji-geum
4th. Sea
5th. Heo Yoon-ji

btw, who is the 1st?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10158 Posts
June 13 2016 06:59 GMT
#120
On June 13 2016 15:40 shakigami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 12:21 GTR wrote:
LOL BJ Sally is still around? I remember I was obsessed with her during my high school years.

^
3rd. Im Ji-geum
4th. Sea
5th. Heo Yoon-ji

btw, who is the 1st?

On June 13 2016 11:30 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 11:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:33 Probemicro wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons


The BMW thing was an allusion to an old TL joke, sorry ^^;

Who is the person he donated most to?


BJ 셀리


"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 13 2016 10:28 GMT
#121
I wonder how much Flash is getting after coming back.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 13 2016 11:18 GMT
#122
Yeah, prech. I'd also postpone military service if I was getting that money ^_^
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afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
June 13 2016 15:21 GMT
#123
On June 13 2016 11:30 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 11:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:33 Probemicro wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons


The BMW thing was an allusion to an old TL joke, sorry ^^;

Who is the person he donated most to?


BJ 셀리



BJ Sally~ One of my favorites haha!

But the person asking how Flash is doing, he is currently ranked 13th, where as Bisu is ranked 109th. So I think he is doing pretty well himself.
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
June 13 2016 20:23 GMT
#124
On June 14 2016 00:21 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 11:30 Probemicro wrote:
On June 13 2016 11:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:33 Probemicro wrote:
On June 13 2016 10:05 Jealous wrote:
Bmwgisa probably never seen a BMW in his life

But at least he supports Bisu so can't hate. Mad dollas.


pretty sure he has seen a BMW (and more)
guy has donated 837228 ($83.7k!) balloons on afreeca over the span of 1 month, Bisu is only his 2nd highest recipient with 253k balloons


The BMW thing was an allusion to an old TL joke, sorry ^^;

Who is the person he donated most to?


BJ 셀리



BJ Sally~ One of my favorites haha!

But the person asking how Flash is doing, he is currently ranked 13th, where as Bisu is ranked 109th. So I think he is doing pretty well himself.

This ranking is based on what period of time, month, year or else?
Luv ya BroodWar!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 01:31:21
June 27 2016 01:29 GMT
#125
[image loading]

based off the conservative 1 balloon=0.07USD rate, Bisu just earned almost 40000USD this month
for comparison the entire prizepool of Afreeca Starleague is only ~21600USD

so flamers and haters can talk about bisu having a weak mentality, scared of army, scared of meeting flash in finals, not having a long term view of helping boost the BW scene whatever,
when you are raking in such dough on a regular basis, simply from regular streaming, everything else is fluff.

if he thinks he doesn't want to play in tournaments anymore because he will be forced to stream less (hence cutting his stream revenue), then thats his personal choice. I don't blame bisu for that. people on forums love to talk about morals and obligations etc, but put them in the same shoes, almost everyone would have done the same as Bisu.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
June 27 2016 03:27 GMT
#126
What kind of a streamer is bisu? Does he rake in viewers like terror because of his personality or is it because of his past achievements/skill level?

Would his viewerbase transfer with him if he were to switch to another game? Or are people also watching because it's brood war.

Those are some important questions to know the answer to before making that call imo.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 08:28:13
June 27 2016 08:22 GMT
#127
According to some Korean on Reddit, he is boring but famous due to his achievements and look.

Also, doesn't Afreeca get like 30% of each balloon? And what about Kongdoo? Do they get some share of this as he works with them?
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 27 2016 08:53 GMT
#128
On June 27 2016 17:22 Wrath wrote:
According to some Korean on Reddit, he is boring but famous due to his achievements and look.

Also, doesn't Afreeca get like 30% of each balloon? And what about Kongdoo? Do they get some share of this as he works with them?

ok... here is how it works.
regular bjs get 60%
best bjs get 70%
partner bjs get 80%
Bisu is a best bj.
Flash and NaDa are the only partner bjs in bw scence.
Flash also received hi partner bj in record time.
There are rumors in Korean community that Flash was already guarenteed to become a partner bj if he came to Afreeca by the ceo of Afreeca(Suh Soo Kil) since Flash had several meetings with him.
Flash knew about ASL before anyone else. I remember from his stream last week someone asked him why he moved to gangnam and he said b/c starleague is going to be held near here. He moved to his new place just b4 he started his afreeca stream, which is 4-5 months ago..
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 09:03:31
June 27 2016 09:00 GMT
#129
lol so bisu is only best bj(so my rate above is still correct, ie,1 balloon=0.07USD rate)
thought he will be higher after 3+ years in the scene
(also i find it hilarious people still know don't what kind of streamer he is after he has been doing this for 3 years)
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 27 2016 09:04 GMT
#130
On June 27 2016 18:00 Probemicro wrote:
lol so bisu is only best bj(so my rate above is still correct, ie,1 balloon=0.07USD rate)
thought he will be higher after 3+ years in the scene
(also i find it hilarious people still know don't what kind of streamer he is after he has been doing this for 3 years)

He was offered Partner Bj last april. He declined bc he didnt want to attend all the mendatory meetings and events partner bjs have to go to.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 27 2016 10:30 GMT
#131
On June 27 2016 18:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 18:00 Probemicro wrote:
lol so bisu is only best bj(so my rate above is still correct, ie,1 balloon=0.07USD rate)
thought he will be higher after 3+ years in the scene
(also i find it hilarious people still know don't what kind of streamer he is after he has been doing this for 3 years)

He was offered Partner Bj last april. He declined bc he didnt want to attend all the mendatory meetings and events partner bjs have to go to.


Bisu sure prioritize his free time for himself.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 27 2016 13:09 GMT
#132
On June 27 2016 19:30 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 18:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
On June 27 2016 18:00 Probemicro wrote:
lol so bisu is only best bj(so my rate above is still correct, ie,1 balloon=0.07USD rate)
thought he will be higher after 3+ years in the scene
(also i find it hilarious people still know don't what kind of streamer he is after he has been doing this for 3 years)

He was offered Partner Bj last april. He declined bc he didnt want to attend all the mendatory meetings and events partner bjs have to go to.


Bisu sure prioritize his free time for himself.

Plus he has to come out of kongdoo if he beomes partner bj.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 27 2016 13:56 GMT
#133
Well, Afreeca has FlaSh's back so no surprise he knew about it before anyone although I don't see how him moving to Gangnam is evidence that he was the first to know.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
June 27 2016 13:58 GMT
#134
In my mind, Bisu is retired. He no longer plays to compete in tournaments and does not practice accordingly. I no longer consider him when ranking top/active players. With that train of thought, I can be okay with him not participating.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 27 2016 14:22 GMT
#135
On June 27 2016 22:58 BisuDagger wrote:
In my mind, Bisu is retired. He no longer plays to compete in tournaments and does not practice accordingly. I no longer consider him when ranking top/active players. With that train of thought, I can be okay with him not participating.


It is a bit too much when he is the best PvZ and PvP player at the moment. Have some faith in him. I can't believe I'm telling you that.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 27 2016 14:38 GMT
#136
On June 27 2016 22:09 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 19:30 Wrath wrote:
On June 27 2016 18:04 classicyellow83 wrote:
On June 27 2016 18:00 Probemicro wrote:
lol so bisu is only best bj(so my rate above is still correct, ie,1 balloon=0.07USD rate)
thought he will be higher after 3+ years in the scene
(also i find it hilarious people still know don't what kind of streamer he is after he has been doing this for 3 years)

He was offered Partner Bj last april. He declined bc he didnt want to attend all the mendatory meetings and events partner bjs have to go to.


Bisu sure prioritize his free time for himself.

Plus he has to come out of kongdoo if he beomes partner bj.


What does Bisu get from Kongdoo and vice versa?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
June 27 2016 15:10 GMT
#137
publicity, both ways.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
June 27 2016 15:37 GMT
#138
don't worry guys, it's a strat to appear completely insane to get rejected by the military. after that he can play fuull time
https://cinesnipe.com
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
June 27 2016 16:37 GMT
#139
On June 27 2016 23:22 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2016 22:58 BisuDagger wrote:
In my mind, Bisu is retired. He no longer plays to compete in tournaments and does not practice accordingly. I no longer consider him when ranking top/active players. With that train of thought, I can be okay with him not participating.


It is a bit too much when he is the best PvZ and PvP player at the moment. Have some faith in him. I can't believe I'm telling you that.

He can still be dominant and it isn't about lacking faith. It is nothing negative. I see him as an entertainer and am glad as hell he stills plays. I can watch him anytime I want. It sucks he won't play in tournaments, but as a Bisu fan I've seen him dominate as protoss for a very long time. I hope that the scene can foster some new protoss talent for the sake of the race.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
June 27 2016 22:27 GMT
#140
On June 27 2016 18:00 Probemicro wrote:
(also i find it hilarious people still know don't what kind of streamer he is after he has been doing this for 3 years)


Why? Not everyone watches his stream. In fact, I mostly use korhal.info.pl so I can skip anything in between games.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 27 2016 23:40 GMT
#141
Is Bisu going for a summer vacation?

http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szType=list_photo_bbs&szBjId=rlaxordyd&nStationNo=6691487&nBbsNo=&szSkin=&nPageNo=1

There are a lot of map posts and "한국과 워킹홀리데이 비자 체결국가" on google translator: "Korea Working Holiday Visa and Parties"

Is that why we did not see him streaming for few days lately?
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-27 23:56:50
June 27 2016 23:51 GMT
#142
On June 28 2016 08:40 Wrath wrote:
Is Bisu going for a summer vacation?

http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szType=list_photo_bbs&szBjId=rlaxordyd&nStationNo=6691487&nBbsNo=&szSkin=&nPageNo=1

There are a lot of map posts and "한국과 워킹홀리데이 비자 체결국가" on google translator: "Korea Working Holiday Visa and Parties"

Is that why we did not see him streaming for few days lately?

He met up with Flash Jaedong and Julyzerg yesterday for reasons they won't reveal. (I'm hoping there is an event coming up with them)
He went drinking with Flash and Sea after his photo shoot today.

Those maps are part of his Sponsor Ad "Hi Korea"
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 28 2016 00:09 GMT
#143
On June 28 2016 08:51 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 08:40 Wrath wrote:
Is Bisu going for a summer vacation?

http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szType=list_photo_bbs&szBjId=rlaxordyd&nStationNo=6691487&nBbsNo=&szSkin=&nPageNo=1

There are a lot of map posts and "한국과 워킹홀리데이 비자 체결국가" on google translator: "Korea Working Holiday Visa and Parties"

Is that why we did not see him streaming for few days lately?

He met up with Flash Jaedong and Julyzerg yesterday for reasons they won't reveal. (I'm hoping there is an event coming up with them)
He went drinking with Flash and Sea after his photo shoot today.

Those maps are part of his Sponsor Ad "Hi Korea"


You mean their photo shoot right? Because Bisu is not playing in this starleague..

Thanks for the info by the way! I appreciate it!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
June 28 2016 00:45 GMT
#144
On June 28 2016 09:09 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2016 08:51 classicyellow83 wrote:
On June 28 2016 08:40 Wrath wrote:
Is Bisu going for a summer vacation?

http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szType=list_photo_bbs&szBjId=rlaxordyd&nStationNo=6691487&nBbsNo=&szSkin=&nPageNo=1

There are a lot of map posts and "한국과 워킹홀리데이 비자 체결국가" on google translator: "Korea Working Holiday Visa and Parties"

Is that why we did not see him streaming for few days lately?

He met up with Flash Jaedong and Julyzerg yesterday for reasons they won't reveal. (I'm hoping there is an event coming up with them)
He went drinking with Flash and Sea after his photo shoot today.

Those maps are part of his Sponsor Ad "Hi Korea"


You mean their photo shoot right? Because Bisu is not playing in this starleague..

Thanks for the info by the way! I appreciate it!

yeah their photo shoot. sorry
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