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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 15:46:27
December 17 2014 17:57 GMT
#1

SC1 APM TRAINER
stabel: v1.04
latest:Alpha-v1.05

      SC1 APM Trainer is a trainer I developed so I could practice Starcraft at work. Basically, it is a non graphical version of the game where you can practice your hand mechanics during your free time. I personally have a ton of fun with it and thought it was far enough along that I'd finally share it. Please feel free to leave comments/suggestions/bugs. If demand is high enough I can add graphics to this trainer. Merry Christmas!

Download link
SC1 APM Trainer Link
SC1 APM Trainer Link 2
SC1 APM Trainer v1.05
SC1 APM Trainer v1.05 link 2


FEATURES
  • Full training on all 3 races
  • All new EXPERT mode!
  • High Scores Table for each mode
  • Full list of hotkeys


Game Modes
  • All Play
  • Building Hotkeys
  • Control Groups
  • Build Units
  • Battles
  • Macro Mode
  • Build Orders
  • Upgrades Mode
  • Abilities Mode


List of work remaining:
-Finish Adding Build Orders
-Add more interactive features/Battles


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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 15:47:27
December 17 2014 17:57 GMT
#2
Bugs/Polls/Misc


I will definitely get to all of these!

Suggestions from posters:
- Add Control group customization
- add to control group #' (shift+#)
- create a pro mode that uses character visuals instead of reading descriptions as suggested so both can be used. Reading descriptions for abilities and upgrades is where I really felt the benefit, but for experienced players definitely need to amp it up. -added
- F keys for macro so you could throw in like: f2 mx5 (for f2 mmmmm) or f2 z for using macro hatches.
- Mouse clicking is something I felt was severely missed, but I had not come up with an intelligent way to implement it. I want to add a box area for precision clicking in the future too. This is a feature that will come, but will require careful thought.

Bugs to fix
control group mode: it considers ctrl+# a correct response to select control group # fixed
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 18:30:32
December 17 2014 18:30 GMT
#3
Could you possibly upload the file onto http://mega.co.nz as well?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 17 2014 18:43 GMT
#4
On December 18 2014 03:30 SynC[gm] wrote:
Could you possibly upload the file onto http://mega.co.nz as well?

done!
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 17 2014 18:50 GMT
#5
Could you by chance post the source code on github?
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Forcewater
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
December 17 2014 19:17 GMT
#6
In my opinion, the number 1 thing on your to-do list should be to allow control group customisation.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 17 2014 19:18 GMT
#7
Thanks for uploading!
I don't really understand game mode control groups though. The only thing I see appearing is the eapm meter, no control group command has any effect afaik.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 19:33:18
December 17 2014 19:25 GMT
#8
On December 18 2014 04:17 Forcewater wrote:
In my opinion, the number 1 thing on your to-do list should be to allow control group customisation.

Yes. I thought that'd be good too. I'll add it to the list.

On December 18 2014 04:18 Yorbon wrote:
Thanks for uploading!
I don't really understand game mode control groups though. The only thing I see appearing is the eapm meter, no control group command has any effect afaik.

ROFL, it only works for Protoss race selection. I haven't tested this mode in a while. I can fix that now.

On December 18 2014 03:50 amazingxkcd wrote:
Could you by chance post the source code on github?

I'll get around to it.

edit: Added ctrl group fix! Sorry i cared more about protoss
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 19:42:04
December 17 2014 19:41 GMT
#9
Follow up on control group mode: it considers ctrl+# a correct response to select control group #, in addition to create control group #.
Also, there are no 'add to control group #' (shift+#), would that be an idea to include?

edit: Thanks for the quick fix
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 17 2014 19:45 GMT
#10
On December 18 2014 04:41 Yorbon wrote:
Follow up on control group mode: it considers ctrl+# a correct response to select control group #, in addition to create control group #.
Also, there are no 'add to control group #' (shift+#), would that be an idea to include?

edit: Thanks for the quick fix

Good points. I can fix the first one pretty easily. The second point I would like to add as an advanced feature with what the poster above suggested about customizing ctrl groups, but definitely it should be added in.
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Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
December 17 2014 19:46 GMT
#11
So silly to deploy tanks before researching siege tech.

But it was smart to have extended sequences as well as smorgasbords.
get stronger play longer
dbssaber
Profile Joined September 2013
United States193 Posts
December 17 2014 19:48 GMT
#12
Thanks for posting this! I'll definitely check it out when I get home today
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
December 17 2014 21:33 GMT
#13
Whoa, definitely will have to use this. Thanks~

If you decide to post the code, I am looking forward to seeing it!
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 17 2014 22:31 GMT
#14
This thing is really awesome for theory! I can learn beside mine other races too. I hope there are no bugs. Keep updating!
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-17 22:54:29
December 17 2014 22:54 GMT
#15
Is it possible to change the score screen?
Sometimes when I'm busy reacting as fast as I can, I want to push a button exactly when the time's up and I end up at the main menu without knowing what my score was. I'd imagine changing 'press any key' to 'press enter' would suffice.

Sorry for being so demanding ):
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
December 17 2014 22:58 GMT
#16
Wow amazing, must try when I get home, thanks !
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
December 17 2014 23:20 GMT
#17
great tool! thanks!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 00:10:12
December 17 2014 23:49 GMT
#18
On December 18 2014 07:54 Yorbon wrote:
Is it possible to change the score screen?
Sometimes when I'm busy reacting as fast as I can, I want to push a button exactly when the time's up and I end up at the main menu without knowing what my score was. I'd imagine changing 'press any key' to 'press enter' would suffice.

Sorry for being so demanding ):

Rofl. That bothers me too now that you mention it. I always just went to check the high scores pages. I'll fix that shortly.

edit: Fixed it and updated link.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
December 18 2014 00:16 GMT
#19
Can you post a youtube video of this in action please??? I'm at work , won't let me download it T_T
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 18 2014 08:44 GMT
#20
On December 18 2014 09:16 GGzerG wrote:
Can you post a youtube video of this in action please??? I'm at work , won't let me download it T_T

Sorry I don't have time to do this. Hopefully you're off work by now.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 18 2014 09:41 GMT
#21
On December 18 2014 17:44 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 09:16 GGzerG wrote:
Can you post a youtube video of this in action please??? I'm at work , won't let me download it T_T

Sorry I don't have time to do this. Hopefully you're off work by now.


can u post footage of bisu practicing with it please ?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 10:58:00
December 18 2014 10:09 GMT
#22
I tried it now thanks anyways, it wasn't what I thought but really nice job very creative. Some bugs in the actual game mode when I was trying to build spawning pool , hotkey for B wasn't working for some reason then game started flickering and glitched out. will be streaming this game for a few hours to show how its done.

EDIT : hmm I was going pretty fast and it said I only have 10 apm .. i'm newb :O
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 11:13:39
December 18 2014 11:04 GMT
#23
On December 18 2014 19:09 GGzerG wrote:
I tried it now thanks anyways, it wasn't what I thought but really nice job very creative. Some bugs in the actual game mode when I was trying to build spawning pool , hotkey for B wasn't working for some reason then game started flickering and glitched out. will be streaming this game for a few hours to show how its done.

EDIT : hmm I was going pretty fast and it said I only have 10 apm .. i'm newb :O

Oh damnit. I put up my latest build with debug tools on. Ill fix asap.

edit: Okay take new build plz. Link in OP is updated.The timer is now based on 60 seconds again instead of 10 lol.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 18 2014 11:20 GMT
#24
SC1 APM Trainer is a trainer I developed so I could practice Starcraft at work


Get back to programming, you slacker.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 18 2014 11:53 GMT
#25
On December 18 2014 20:20 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
SC1 APM Trainer is a trainer I developed so I could practice Starcraft at work


Get back to programming, you slacker.


hahah he got bored with programming so he decided to do some programming.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 18 2014 12:12 GMT
#26
On December 18 2014 20:53 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 20:20 vOdToasT wrote:
SC1 APM Trainer is a trainer I developed so I could practice Starcraft at work


Get back to programming, you slacker.


hahah he got bored with programming so he decided to do some programming.

Rofl. This post really hits home.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 12:50:10
December 18 2014 12:49 GMT
#27
this is so weird haha. text based bw. i thought it was gonna be like pudge micro game.
this is for Real gamers lol
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
December 18 2014 14:27 GMT
#28
This is really cool and has potential to be AMAZING, thank you.

One suggestion just from a few minutes aside from custom hot keys is to use the actual letters and numbers instead of words. In a real game you use visual ques to decide what buttons to press. Replacing that with reading descriptions of what is going on really fast I think is a hindrance. Instead of "Select Control Group 6", "Hatchery Unit Select", and "Build Ultralisk." It simply said: "6su". Players will know what these combos stand for but more importantly it will allow people to get used to doing the key sequences fast without getting hung up on reading the words (something that you never have to do in a real game).

Also some people use the F keys for macro so you could throw in like: f2 mx5 (for f2 mmmmm) or f2 z for using macro hatches.

Another thing would be to add a button press or mouse click if possible into 1a2a3a sequences to ensure that you don't train the timing incorrectly.

This could become really incredible though, thanks . I think custom hotkeys are really important though.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 15:01:09
December 18 2014 14:48 GMT
#29
On December 18 2014 23:27 puppykiller wrote:
This is really cool and has potential to be AMAZING, thank you.

One suggestion just from a few minutes aside from custom hot keys is to use the actual letters and numbers instead of words. In a real game you use visual ques to decide what buttons to press. Replacing that with reading descriptions of what is going on really fast I think is a hindrance. Instead of "Select Control Group 6", "Hatchery Unit Select", and "Build Ultralisk." It simply said: "6su". Players will know what these combos stand for but more importantly it will allow people to get used to doing the key sequences fast without getting hung up on reading the words (something that you never have to do in a real game).

Also some people use the F keys for macro so you could throw in like: f2 mx5 (for f2 mmmmm) or f2 z for using macro hatches.

Another thing would be to add a button press or mouse click if possible into 1a2a3a sequences to ensure that you don't train the timing incorrectly.

This could become really incredible though, thanks . I think custom hotkeys are really important though.

Those are great ideas.
1. I'll create a pro mode that uses character visuals instead of reading descriptions as suggested so both can be used. Reading descriptions for abilities and upgrades is where I really felt the benefit, but for experienced players definitely need to amp it up.

2. I felt like the f keys were very lacking. You finally gave a suggestion that will add great value!

3. Mouse clicking is something I felt was severely missed, but I had not come up with an intelligent way to implement it. I want to add a box area for precision clicking in the future too. This is a feature that will come, but will require careful thought.


edit: control group mode: it considers ctrl+# a correct response to select control group # fixed
You can only use the ctrl key when commanded to now.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 18 2014 17:38 GMT
#30
On December 18 2014 21:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 20:53 JieXian wrote:
On December 18 2014 20:20 vOdToasT wrote:
SC1 APM Trainer is a trainer I developed so I could practice Starcraft at work


Get back to programming, you slacker.


hahah he got bored with programming so he decided to do some programming.

Rofl. This post really hits home.


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trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
December 18 2014 19:15 GMT
#31
DL link isn't working for me.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 19:25:59
December 18 2014 19:24 GMT
#32
On December 19 2014 04:15 trutaCz wrote:
DL link isn't working for me.


Use this one then: http://www.filedropper.com/sc1apmtrainer_1
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 19 2014 15:47 GMT
#33
Added expert mode as requested. Let me know what needs tweaking. Thanks.
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ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States347 Posts
December 19 2014 16:39 GMT
#34
Does this have a mode equivalent to the 1a2a3a Program?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 19 2014 21:05 GMT
#35
On December 20 2014 01:39 f10eqq wrote:
Does this have a mode equivalent to the 1a2a3a Program?

Nope, but I can definitely add that in.
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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 19 2014 21:24 GMT
#36
does this work in linux?
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 19 2014 21:27 GMT
#37
On December 20 2014 06:24 sabas123 wrote:
does this work in linux?

It uses a windows based timer since I was using visual studio. Ill make a Linux friendly version soon. As mentioned in the OP it was just something simple I've been building at work so didn't consider multiple OSs.
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wimpwimpwimp
Profile Joined May 2012
169 Posts
December 23 2014 00:49 GMT
#38
Very cool!

Any chance you might add a full screen mode, with larger and centered text?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
December 23 2014 00:52 GMT
#39
On December 23 2014 09:49 wimpwimpwimp wrote:
Very cool!

Any chance you might add a full screen mode, with larger and centered text?

I can add that to the feature list. It's that size because it's easier to get away with at work xD.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 23 2014 01:00 GMT
#40
On December 23 2014 09:52 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 09:49 wimpwimpwimp wrote:
Very cool!

Any chance you might add a full screen mode, with larger and centered text?

I can add that to the feature list. It's that size because it's easier to get away with at work xD.


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BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic621 Posts
December 23 2014 04:45 GMT
#41
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