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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-18 08:28:03
August 18 2020 06:28 GMT
#7161
On August 18 2020 12:42 SirGlinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2020 01:32 Avi-Love wrote:
On August 17 2020 23:26 actionzg wrote:
I even believe he can inflict pain on ASL pros if he were to ever qualify.


I was going to write a long and serious reply to your post right up until I read the above quote -- that's when I realised you're delusional and you have no idea what you're talking about. Luckily for you that means you'll fit right in with most "top foreigners" and their thinking - Unfortunately it is so far detached from reality that no one else will ever take you seriously.


@avi-love
Maaan you're unnecessarily harsh for no reason. A simple no would suffice. Take a chill pill. It's his first posts, he doesn't stomp in here shouting absolutes. He asks nicely for opinions. If ur tired of foreigners overestimating themselves then take it with them.

@actionzg just ignore him, ask away. There's BW people who will take u seriously, not call u delusional when you've got a faulty assumption. Maybe join the bw discords if TL is too elitist/cold.

I don't watch a lot of Terran streams so can't add much to the streamer discussion but most of it sounds reasonable. Terror is imo the best foreign Terran right now.


This is fair, we shouldn't be too harsh towards newer players/viewers. Ultimately our goal as a community is to grow the game so we can all enjoy it for another 20+ years. BW truly is the best esport/game ever made and the vets are fully aware of that, which is why we're sometimes overly protective/defensive. We wouldn't be following the game after 10-20 years if it wasn't .

The very least we can do is share our experiences/knowledge with newer community members, so they too can understand and appreciate the beauty of the game. I agree that we need to be more inclusive and less aggressive/snobby towards newer fans, I'm guilty of that as well.

what i'm trying to say is, sorry for being a dick actionzg :D. welcome to the team ^^
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
August 18 2020 06:30 GMT
#7162
is bnet down? i cant login.
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
August 18 2020 06:39 GMT
#7163
On August 18 2020 15:30 KameZerg wrote:
is bnet down? i cant login.

Works fine for me! i've just login on Europe
and i wait for a game
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
actionzg
Profile Joined August 2020
8 Posts
August 18 2020 07:49 GMT
#7164
SirGlinG + TT1,

thank you for your warm and encouraging words, and jumping to my defense. @TT1 I wouldn't have taken any offence anyways, its all good, I know you are very respected individual in the community, I can see your name popping up regularly on these streams

Feels great to be here.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-18 08:10:16
August 18 2020 08:08 GMT
#7165
On August 18 2020 09:17 outscar wrote:


Watch this to understand how unbelievable big the gap between players. Korean S > amateurs > pro.


Just watched that video, artosis nailed the explanation... 1800 to 2100 is actually a clown fiesta.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
August 18 2020 13:02 GMT
#7166
So, Shuttle came back from military for good recently? or have I been out of the loop for so long.

Hope he joins upcoming ASL.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 18 2020 15:36 GMT
#7167
On August 18 2020 22:02 chongu wrote:
So, Shuttle came back from military for good recently? or have I been out of the loop for so long.

Hope he joins upcoming ASL.

Yep, for good. He's here to stay.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
August 18 2020 15:46 GMT
#7168
Annnd they're back. There is a group of 200~300 or so toxic viewers roaming starcraft BJ streams talking shit, spreading rumors, and just personally attacking BJ's. Yesterday they tilted Light so he stopped streaming early, today they're tar getting Sharp.

Most likely these viewers don't even play bw let alone have the game installed.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
August 20 2020 13:28 GMT
#7169
over 12.5 k viewers on sea stream... i wonder if it is for him of for a very beautiful lady
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
August 20 2020 20:03 GMT
#7170
On August 18 2020 22:02 chongu wrote:
So, Shuttle came back from military for good recently? or have I been out of the loop for so long.

Hope he joins upcoming ASL.


Speaking about Shuttle , here we have 2 games vs Bisu! The second game is more intense

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 20 2020 23:25 GMT
#7171
What's up w/ HSTS issues for sponbbang? Did they move to some other domain? Has it ceased to exist?
The heart's eternal vow
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
August 21 2020 05:52 GMT
#7172
After watching the PvP between Bisu and Shuttle I went to the TLPD to see Bisu's PvP record in the Kespa era !

And he has the worst record 63.21% (amazing) between his PvZ and his PvT.

Also, he has played 13 games against Jila (we know him as Kal)

But, the most important thing, I remembered the game vs Violet !

Tomorrow is the sad day. Eight years since KT Rolster Violet passed away
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
August 22 2020 00:13 GMT
#7173
KT VIOLET NEVER FORGET !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 22 2020 20:50 GMT
#7174
so sick of idiots hosting "super" maps and calling them "fastest", stop hosting that retarded map to begin with, and blizzard ffs do some cleanup as some games are stuck there for no reason....
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-23 14:35:34
August 23 2020 13:31 GMT
#7175
Some epic games going on right now. Mini vs Rush just played in a team match and it was down to the wire.

+ Show Spoiler +
bisu carry
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
August 23 2020 15:36 GMT
#7176
Does anyone know how Last is doing? Looks like he didn't try to qualify for ASL10, is he basically retired or still trying to recoup and play again in the future after his wrists heal more? Also has he been in the military yet?
Free Palestine
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
August 23 2020 20:58 GMT
#7177
On August 24 2020 00:36 Ideas wrote:
Does anyone know how Last is doing? Looks like he didn't try to qualify for ASL10, is he basically retired or still trying to recoup and play again in the future after his wrists heal more? Also has he been in the military yet?




Dunno if this will be ever translated but with google and Lasts Youtube: no, Last wont get better. He cannot play more than couple of hours because of the pain
He still has to do his military service. Maybe Last himself only knows extension of his injuries...

it's not just a music it's something else
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 23 2020 22:16 GMT
#7178
On August 24 2020 05:58 whaski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 00:36 Ideas wrote:
Does anyone know how Last is doing? Looks like he didn't try to qualify for ASL10, is he basically retired or still trying to recoup and play again in the future after his wrists heal more? Also has he been in the military yet?


https://youtu.be/PomN4Wcb5u8

Dunno if this will be ever translated but with google and Lasts Youtube: no, Last wont get better. He cannot play more than couple of hours because of the pain
He still has to do his military service. Maybe Last himself only knows extension of his injuries...



Such a shame, Last almost toppled FlaSh on 2016/17 and was about to become greatest terran. Maybe military service can benefit him? I hope JD and Last will comeback even stronger.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
August 24 2020 01:12 GMT
#7179
On August 24 2020 05:58 whaski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2020 00:36 Ideas wrote:
Does anyone know how Last is doing? Looks like he didn't try to qualify for ASL10, is he basically retired or still trying to recoup and play again in the future after his wrists heal more? Also has he been in the military yet?


https://youtu.be/PomN4Wcb5u8

Dunno if this will be ever translated but with google and Lasts Youtube: no, Last wont get better. He cannot play more than couple of hours because of the pain
He still has to do his military service. Maybe Last himself only knows extension of his injuries...



Thanks for info. Such a shame, he was a fantastic player. Hope he enjoys his time until military.
Free Palestine
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
August 24 2020 01:18 GMT
#7180
I'm really enjoying Shuttles play lately!!! Loving it, and sad to see Last go but I bet he comes back 10x stronger.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
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