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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10401 Posts
June 06 2020 14:26 GMT
#6981
On June 06 2020 21:17 Lemartes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 20:31 maybenexttime wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:39 Lemartes wrote:
Hey guys, just a quick question: since BW is still very niche, I suppose most people playing are oldschoolers and experienced? Cause I would like to ladder a bit, but is there even an ELO like "bronze" existing in this game?
EDIT: Europe btw.


Come join us on Discord. We've got people on all levels and the atmosphere is very friendly. :-)

https://discord.gg/wqvHMV


thanks for the tip. Will check it out later

Show nested quote +
Yes, that would be F-rank I guess.
You'll have to play a few placement matches before you can start the actual laddering. If you're totally new to BW you shouldn't be surprised to lose most or all of these games and be put on the lowest rung.
As you assume correctly, most people who play BW nowadays have done so for a long time and even people slightly above the lowest ranks will be rather skilled (relatively speaking). There might even be quite a big gap between the lowest and the highest F-rankers.
Also, because the playerbase is rather small overall, you can expect to be matched against better players from time to time.

Shouldn't stop you from having some fun on the ladder though.

gl hf


yes I will try, also just curious how it goes. I figured I play some campaign again, just to get a feel for the game. Then let´s see.


Playing the campaign first is a great way to re-familiarize yourself with the basic controls, units, etc. Use this time as an opportunity to get comfortable with control groups (ctrl+# to assign a control group to units or a building, same # to select it, same # twice to jump to it) and hotkeys (like b for build, n for Nexus, p for Probe, or whatever custom hotkeys you set) in particular.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Lemartes
Profile Joined June 2015
Austria57 Posts
June 06 2020 14:31 GMT
#6982
On June 06 2020 23:26 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 21:17 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 20:31 maybenexttime wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:39 Lemartes wrote:
Hey guys, just a quick question: since BW is still very niche, I suppose most people playing are oldschoolers and experienced? Cause I would like to ladder a bit, but is there even an ELO like "bronze" existing in this game?
EDIT: Europe btw.


Come join us on Discord. We've got people on all levels and the atmosphere is very friendly. :-)

https://discord.gg/wqvHMV


thanks for the tip. Will check it out later

Yes, that would be F-rank I guess.
You'll have to play a few placement matches before you can start the actual laddering. If you're totally new to BW you shouldn't be surprised to lose most or all of these games and be put on the lowest rung.
As you assume correctly, most people who play BW nowadays have done so for a long time and even people slightly above the lowest ranks will be rather skilled (relatively speaking). There might even be quite a big gap between the lowest and the highest F-rankers.
Also, because the playerbase is rather small overall, you can expect to be matched against better players from time to time.

Shouldn't stop you from having some fun on the ladder though.

gl hf


yes I will try, also just curious how it goes. I figured I play some campaign again, just to get a feel for the game. Then let´s see.


Playing the campaign first is a great way to re-familiarize yourself with the basic controls, units, etc. Use this time as an opportunity to get comfortable with control groups (ctrl+# to assign a control group to units or a building, same # to select it, same # twice to jump to it) and hotkeys (like b for build, n for Nexus, p for Probe, or whatever custom hotkeys you set) in particular.


Yes, thanks for the good advice. I played a lot of SC2 back in the days so I know my way around hotkeys, just sucks that in BW almost everything is on a different one :p
I saw that you can change that now though, which I guess is a sin, but I will have to do it just cause of habit.

Another quick question: I wanted to play without an opponent to practice macro and hotkeys a bit, but it always tells me I cant custom game without an opponent, and I cannot use this old trick I found of removing the opponent while there is a countdown, because there is no countdown no more. Is there any way around this? Also tried to use cheatcode "there is no cow level" but that just gets me to victory and the option for playing after you won is also not there...
NaDa | IMMVP | ByuN?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10401 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-06 14:37:48
June 06 2020 14:34 GMT
#6983
On June 06 2020 23:31 Lemartes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 23:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2020 21:17 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 20:31 maybenexttime wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:39 Lemartes wrote:
Hey guys, just a quick question: since BW is still very niche, I suppose most people playing are oldschoolers and experienced? Cause I would like to ladder a bit, but is there even an ELO like "bronze" existing in this game?
EDIT: Europe btw.


Come join us on Discord. We've got people on all levels and the atmosphere is very friendly. :-)

https://discord.gg/wqvHMV


thanks for the tip. Will check it out later

Yes, that would be F-rank I guess.
You'll have to play a few placement matches before you can start the actual laddering. If you're totally new to BW you shouldn't be surprised to lose most or all of these games and be put on the lowest rung.
As you assume correctly, most people who play BW nowadays have done so for a long time and even people slightly above the lowest ranks will be rather skilled (relatively speaking). There might even be quite a big gap between the lowest and the highest F-rankers.
Also, because the playerbase is rather small overall, you can expect to be matched against better players from time to time.

Shouldn't stop you from having some fun on the ladder though.

gl hf


yes I will try, also just curious how it goes. I figured I play some campaign again, just to get a feel for the game. Then let´s see.


Playing the campaign first is a great way to re-familiarize yourself with the basic controls, units, etc. Use this time as an opportunity to get comfortable with control groups (ctrl+# to assign a control group to units or a building, same # to select it, same # twice to jump to it) and hotkeys (like b for build, n for Nexus, p for Probe, or whatever custom hotkeys you set) in particular.


Yes, thanks for the good advice. I played a lot of SC2 back in the days so I know my way around hotkeys, just sucks that in BW almost everything is on a different one :p
I saw that you can change that now though, which I guess is a sin, but I will have to do it just cause of habit.

Another quick question: I wanted to play without an opponent to practice macro and hotkeys a bit, but it always tells me I cant custom game without an opponent, and I cannot use this old trick I found of removing the opponent while there is a countdown, because there is no countdown no more. Is there any way around this? Also tried to use cheatcode "there is no cow level" but that just gets me to victory and the option for playing after you won is also not there...

There are no opponent maps floating around out there, but I don't have one on hand. Perhaps try searching on TL.

Otherwise, the countdown timer is still very much present, but it is only for online play (as always). Thus, you can still do the trick on Battle.net in a private game, I believe.

Beyond that, in single player you can just do "power overwhelming" to be invincible, so even if you do get attacked, nothing will happen to your units. Since you're macroing, you may as well use your units too ;P

EDIT: I think I may have found a macro alone map in my downloads, I believe you have to start in UMS mode:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1clw2KYniwO7NrGT8SLvsD69lmya8QB96/view?usp=sharing
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
June 06 2020 16:07 GMT
#6984
Will there be an ASL Season 10?
love esports - hate homophobia
Lemartes
Profile Joined June 2015
Austria57 Posts
June 06 2020 18:43 GMT
#6985
On June 06 2020 23:34 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 23:31 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 23:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2020 21:17 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 20:31 maybenexttime wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:39 Lemartes wrote:
Hey guys, just a quick question: since BW is still very niche, I suppose most people playing are oldschoolers and experienced? Cause I would like to ladder a bit, but is there even an ELO like "bronze" existing in this game?
EDIT: Europe btw.


Come join us on Discord. We've got people on all levels and the atmosphere is very friendly. :-)

https://discord.gg/wqvHMV


thanks for the tip. Will check it out later

Yes, that would be F-rank I guess.
You'll have to play a few placement matches before you can start the actual laddering. If you're totally new to BW you shouldn't be surprised to lose most or all of these games and be put on the lowest rung.
As you assume correctly, most people who play BW nowadays have done so for a long time and even people slightly above the lowest ranks will be rather skilled (relatively speaking). There might even be quite a big gap between the lowest and the highest F-rankers.
Also, because the playerbase is rather small overall, you can expect to be matched against better players from time to time.

Shouldn't stop you from having some fun on the ladder though.

gl hf


yes I will try, also just curious how it goes. I figured I play some campaign again, just to get a feel for the game. Then let´s see.


Playing the campaign first is a great way to re-familiarize yourself with the basic controls, units, etc. Use this time as an opportunity to get comfortable with control groups (ctrl+# to assign a control group to units or a building, same # to select it, same # twice to jump to it) and hotkeys (like b for build, n for Nexus, p for Probe, or whatever custom hotkeys you set) in particular.


Yes, thanks for the good advice. I played a lot of SC2 back in the days so I know my way around hotkeys, just sucks that in BW almost everything is on a different one :p
I saw that you can change that now though, which I guess is a sin, but I will have to do it just cause of habit.

Another quick question: I wanted to play without an opponent to practice macro and hotkeys a bit, but it always tells me I cant custom game without an opponent, and I cannot use this old trick I found of removing the opponent while there is a countdown, because there is no countdown no more. Is there any way around this? Also tried to use cheatcode "there is no cow level" but that just gets me to victory and the option for playing after you won is also not there...

There are no opponent maps floating around out there, but I don't have one on hand. Perhaps try searching on TL.

Otherwise, the countdown timer is still very much present, but it is only for online play (as always). Thus, you can still do the trick on Battle.net in a private game, I believe.

Beyond that, in single player you can just do "power overwhelming" to be invincible, so even if you do get attacked, nothing will happen to your units. Since you're macroing, you may as well use your units too ;P

EDIT: I think I may have found a macro alone map in my downloads, I believe you have to start in UMS mode:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1clw2KYniwO7NrGT8SLvsD69lmya8QB96/view?usp=sharing


Thanks for all the effort mate. Really appreciate the help

NaDa | IMMVP | ByuN?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10401 Posts
June 06 2020 23:11 GMT
#6986
On June 07 2020 03:43 Lemartes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 23:34 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2020 23:31 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 23:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2020 21:17 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 20:31 maybenexttime wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:39 Lemartes wrote:
Hey guys, just a quick question: since BW is still very niche, I suppose most people playing are oldschoolers and experienced? Cause I would like to ladder a bit, but is there even an ELO like "bronze" existing in this game?
EDIT: Europe btw.


Come join us on Discord. We've got people on all levels and the atmosphere is very friendly. :-)

https://discord.gg/wqvHMV


thanks for the tip. Will check it out later

Yes, that would be F-rank I guess.
You'll have to play a few placement matches before you can start the actual laddering. If you're totally new to BW you shouldn't be surprised to lose most or all of these games and be put on the lowest rung.
As you assume correctly, most people who play BW nowadays have done so for a long time and even people slightly above the lowest ranks will be rather skilled (relatively speaking). There might even be quite a big gap between the lowest and the highest F-rankers.
Also, because the playerbase is rather small overall, you can expect to be matched against better players from time to time.

Shouldn't stop you from having some fun on the ladder though.

gl hf


yes I will try, also just curious how it goes. I figured I play some campaign again, just to get a feel for the game. Then let´s see.


Playing the campaign first is a great way to re-familiarize yourself with the basic controls, units, etc. Use this time as an opportunity to get comfortable with control groups (ctrl+# to assign a control group to units or a building, same # to select it, same # twice to jump to it) and hotkeys (like b for build, n for Nexus, p for Probe, or whatever custom hotkeys you set) in particular.


Yes, thanks for the good advice. I played a lot of SC2 back in the days so I know my way around hotkeys, just sucks that in BW almost everything is on a different one :p
I saw that you can change that now though, which I guess is a sin, but I will have to do it just cause of habit.

Another quick question: I wanted to play without an opponent to practice macro and hotkeys a bit, but it always tells me I cant custom game without an opponent, and I cannot use this old trick I found of removing the opponent while there is a countdown, because there is no countdown no more. Is there any way around this? Also tried to use cheatcode "there is no cow level" but that just gets me to victory and the option for playing after you won is also not there...

There are no opponent maps floating around out there, but I don't have one on hand. Perhaps try searching on TL.

Otherwise, the countdown timer is still very much present, but it is only for online play (as always). Thus, you can still do the trick on Battle.net in a private game, I believe.

Beyond that, in single player you can just do "power overwhelming" to be invincible, so even if you do get attacked, nothing will happen to your units. Since you're macroing, you may as well use your units too ;P

EDIT: I think I may have found a macro alone map in my downloads, I believe you have to start in UMS mode:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1clw2KYniwO7NrGT8SLvsD69lmya8QB96/view?usp=sharing


Thanks for all the effort mate. Really appreciate the help


No problem at all, happy to help Best of luck!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4198 Posts
June 07 2020 02:32 GMT
#6987
On June 06 2020 23:31 Lemartes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 23:26 Jealous wrote:
On June 06 2020 21:17 Lemartes wrote:
On June 06 2020 20:31 maybenexttime wrote:
On June 06 2020 19:39 Lemartes wrote:
Hey guys, just a quick question: since BW is still very niche, I suppose most people playing are oldschoolers and experienced? Cause I would like to ladder a bit, but is there even an ELO like "bronze" existing in this game?
EDIT: Europe btw.


Come join us on Discord. We've got people on all levels and the atmosphere is very friendly. :-)

https://discord.gg/wqvHMV


thanks for the tip. Will check it out later

Yes, that would be F-rank I guess.
You'll have to play a few placement matches before you can start the actual laddering. If you're totally new to BW you shouldn't be surprised to lose most or all of these games and be put on the lowest rung.
As you assume correctly, most people who play BW nowadays have done so for a long time and even people slightly above the lowest ranks will be rather skilled (relatively speaking). There might even be quite a big gap between the lowest and the highest F-rankers.
Also, because the playerbase is rather small overall, you can expect to be matched against better players from time to time.

Shouldn't stop you from having some fun on the ladder though.

gl hf


yes I will try, also just curious how it goes. I figured I play some campaign again, just to get a feel for the game. Then let´s see.


Playing the campaign first is a great way to re-familiarize yourself with the basic controls, units, etc. Use this time as an opportunity to get comfortable with control groups (ctrl+# to assign a control group to units or a building, same # to select it, same # twice to jump to it) and hotkeys (like b for build, n for Nexus, p for Probe, or whatever custom hotkeys you set) in particular.


Yes, thanks for the good advice. I played a lot of SC2 back in the days so I know my way around hotkeys, just sucks that in BW almost everything is on a different one :p
I saw that you can change that now though, which I guess is a sin, but I will have to do it just cause of habit.

Another quick question: I wanted to play without an opponent to practice macro and hotkeys a bit, but it always tells me I cant custom game without an opponent, and I cannot use this old trick I found of removing the opponent while there is a countdown, because there is no countdown no more. Is there any way around this? Also tried to use cheatcode "there is no cow level" but that just gets me to victory and the option for playing after you won is also not there...


Regarding change hotkeys, I played BW quite abit during the ICCUP days and changed the hotkeys immediately on Remastered launch. Spent years pressing O for siege, I for mines and irradiate and couldn't stand it for another second haha.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
June 08 2020 08:02 GMT
#6988
Do we still have a recommended latest games thread for non-FPVOD games? We used to have it but I can't find it any more.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 11 2020 20:28 GMT
#6989


JD vs Bisu money match
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
June 12 2020 10:48 GMT
#6990
why the fuck are ppl so BM on ladder lmao

played a game against this protoss, he started going "leave" "why arent u leaving" "do i have to destroy ur 1 oclock for u to leave" once he thought he was winning

but i had a hidden expo and destroyed his ass, then he just left silently lmao

seriously
POGGERS
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-12 11:29:17
June 12 2020 11:28 GMT
#6991
terror ginyuda league
http://play.afreecatv.com/y1026/
12/6 -14/6
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2937 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-12 22:04:50
June 12 2020 22:00 GMT
#6992
Does anyone have the inside scoop on how so much cheesy power metal (or whatever its called) has made its way into OSL/MSL/ASL intros?

I guess there's some e-sports mogul who's the one person in Korea who unironically listens to this or perhaps some Nightwishy subculture in Seoul, but I'm really at a loss of how they dig up gems like this:
Fuck KeSPA.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10401 Posts
June 12 2020 22:19 GMT
#6993
On June 13 2020 07:00 oshibori_probe wrote:
Does anyone have the inside scoop on how so much cheesy power metal (or whatever its called) has made its way into OSL/MSL/ASL intros?

I guess there's some e-sports mogul who's the one person in Korea who unironically listens to this or perhaps some Nightwishy subculture in Seoul, but I'm really at a loss of how they dig up gems like this:
https://youtu.be/w3bWR_aLlas

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/61893-all-time-pro-scene-music
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2053 Posts
June 13 2020 02:17 GMT
#6994
On June 12 2020 19:48 konadora wrote:
why the fuck are ppl so BM on ladder lmao

played a game against this protoss, he started going "leave" "why arent u leaving" "do i have to destroy ur 1 oclock for u to leave" once he thought he was winning

but i had a hidden expo and destroyed his ass, then he just left silently lmao

seriously


Seriously everyone is like this, crossy says the same shit:

[image loading]

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But at least sometimes he ggs

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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10888 Posts
June 13 2020 03:04 GMT
#6995
On June 12 2020 20:28 ggsimida wrote:
terror ginyuda league
http://play.afreecatv.com/y1026/
12/6 -14/6
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

So much content right now this is amazing, let's go BeSt!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1474 Posts
June 13 2020 11:18 GMT
#6996
Any info on the event Cadenzie is playing in just now?

"LASL", is that Ladies-ASL or something? Semi-final now?
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-13 21:52:14
June 13 2020 21:52 GMT
#6997
On June 12 2020 19:48 konadora wrote:
why the fuck are ppl so BM on ladder lmao

played a game against this protoss, he started going "leave" "why arent u leaving" "do i have to destroy ur 1 oclock for u to leave" once he thought he was winning

but i had a hidden expo and destroyed his ass, then he just left silently lmao

seriously


I read your post and then thought let's try a game or two I haven't played in a really long time. 1st game I lost, standard no-chat into gg. 2nd game I won and the opponent wrote "kill yourself" and left. Who are these people lmao
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-13 22:19:27
June 13 2020 22:19 GMT
#6998
On June 14 2020 06:52 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2020 19:48 konadora wrote:
why the fuck are ppl so BM on ladder lmao

played a game against this protoss, he started going "leave" "why arent u leaving" "do i have to destroy ur 1 oclock for u to leave" once he thought he was winning

but i had a hidden expo and destroyed his ass, then he just left silently lmao

seriously


I read your post and then thought let's try a game or two I haven't played in a really long time. 1st game I lost, standard no-chat into gg. 2nd game I won and the opponent wrote "kill yourself" and left. Who are these people lmao

People who need to feel better about playing the same game since 1998 and still being unable to get over it that they blow even in a tiny player pool.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
June 14 2020 02:31 GMT
#6999
i think the more sad part is these people are 20-30 years old...i wonder how they fare in life with such a mindset
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
June 14 2020 02:54 GMT
#7000
On June 12 2020 19:48 konadora wrote:
why the fuck are ppl so BM on ladder lmao

played a game against this protoss, he started going "leave" "why arent u leaving" "do i have to destroy ur 1 oclock for u to leave" once he thought he was winning

but i had a hidden expo and destroyed his ass, then he just left silently lmao

seriously


Playing ladder in the 2000~ range and I've been randomly called a "chink" multiple times by different people. And when i clearly respond in English, they would say shit like ching chong chang. I was using a barcode id and we were playing with good latency so i have no clue why they would identify me as a certain race. And it's 2020 in a 20yr odl game. I can only assume the people saying this shit are not teenagers.
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