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MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
February 12 2020 08:42 GMT
#6541
Are Afreeca vod not work for anyone else?
Please go link: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/52912714
For me after I watch for about 20 seconds I see "The video you are trying to watch can't be fucked to work". And it goes blank.
Is it just me? Or is all?
Also please TELL ME if you are on mobile or not. I have suspicion that it may work for mobile but not topdesk.

Thank you )
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
February 12 2020 08:43 GMT
#6542
Sorry for poor English.
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
February 14 2020 05:53 GMT
#6543
Blizzard did it again (from Artosis stream today): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/551592304?t=59m15s
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
February 14 2020 07:44 GMT
#6544
Lmao how did that happen!
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway751 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 19:41:59
February 14 2020 19:40 GMT
#6545
https://i.imgur.com/O0Nrxzq.jpg
Was he being friendly?
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-14 20:54:04
February 14 2020 20:51 GMT
#6546
[Time stamp] I'm pretty sure Boxer is friendly mocking Yellow for his "2" meme-name xD

Edit: Time stamp not working please help D: It's at 9:58

"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
February 16 2020 19:10 GMT
#6547
I have heard many great things about Savior being the first and only Bonjwa of Broodwar, can somebody recommend me some epic games of Savior in his prime?
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 20:09:14
February 16 2020 20:04 GMT
#6548
On February 17 2020 04:10 ppshchik wrote:
I have heard many great things about Savior being the first and only Bonjwa of Broodwar, can somebody recommend me some epic games of Savior in his prime?




ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-16 20:45:00
February 16 2020 20:43 GMT
#6549
I've seen his well known losses against Bisu already, but I want to watch more of his wins during his heyday.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany911 Posts
February 16 2020 21:04 GMT
#6550
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10251 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 02:23:28
February 17 2020 02:13 GMT
#6551
On February 17 2020 04:10 ppshchik wrote:
I have heard many great things about Savior being the first and only Bonjwa of Broodwar, can somebody recommend me some epic games of Savior in his prime?

Ok so, the reason why you may have heard this is that the term was born from Savior in the first place. There were no Bonjwa before Savior; those terms were retroactively accepted for Boxer, Nada, and Oov. Savior was so dominant he gave birth to the term. There were also no Bonjwa since him, because Bisu failed the path to ascendancy, and then soon after the Flash/Jaedong rivalry started, which changed the dynamic of the storyline (a Bonjwa is historically unrivaled).

I would recommend every finals that Savior has been a part of as a starting point, including the one he won against Nada a mere 2? weeks prior to losing to Bisu. This was a a time when maps were heavily favored against Zerg according to the statistics, and Savior was contributing more wins than the rest of all Zerg players on those maps in tournament. It was an uncanny dominance. TLPD is your friend in this.

EDIT: Also don't listen to the trolls above. I understand Savior is a hated figure in the scene, but that is no reason to ignore his actual play. Check these VOD and see which games you want to see in their entirety:





The highlights, from what I understand, don't do the actual play justice. Reason is, you see Marines walking on top of Lurkers and think "the Terran was just bad" or "in 2006 all players were bad," but what Savior did was distract the opponent in 3 places at once so you end up losing your army to a hidden Lurker anyway, at least as far as I recall from analysis of higher level minds in the scene.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
February 17 2020 04:45 GMT
#6552
On February 17 2020 11:13 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2020 04:10 ppshchik wrote:
I have heard many great things about Savior being the first and only Bonjwa of Broodwar, can somebody recommend me some epic games of Savior in his prime?

Ok so, the reason why you may have heard this is that the term was born from Savior in the first place. There were no Bonjwa before Savior; those terms were retroactively accepted for Boxer, Nada, and Oov. Savior was so dominant he gave birth to the term. There were also no Bonjwa since him, because Bisu failed the path to ascendancy, and then soon after the Flash/Jaedong rivalry started, which changed the dynamic of the storyline (a Bonjwa is historically unrivaled).

I would recommend every finals that Savior has been a part of as a starting point, including the one he won against Nada a mere 2? weeks prior to losing to Bisu. This was a a time when maps were heavily favored against Zerg according to the statistics, and Savior was contributing more wins than the rest of all Zerg players on those maps in tournament. It was an uncanny dominance. TLPD is your friend in this.

EDIT: Also don't listen to the trolls above. I understand Savior is a hated figure in the scene, but that is no reason to ignore his actual play. Check these VOD and see which games you want to see in their entirety:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmxBw4dGR1A&feature=emb_logo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncb_Occ1fvc&feature=emb_logo

The highlights, from what I understand, don't do the actual play justice. Reason is, you see Marines walking on top of Lurkers and think "the Terran was just bad" or "in 2006 all players were bad," but what Savior did was distract the opponent in 3 places at once so you end up losing your army to a hidden Lurker anyway, at least as far as I recall from analysis of higher level minds in the scene.


Thank you so much for the recommendation and history lesson! I'm going to dive right into these vods right now.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-17 05:40:52
February 17 2020 05:40 GMT
#6553
On February 17 2020 04:10 ppshchik wrote:
I have heard many great things about Savior being the first and only Bonjwa of Broodwar, can somebody recommend me some epic games of Savior in his prime?

This is a great game that is a must watch. Also, his games vs Nal_ra and Nada. I'll link Nada BS game when I get the chance.

https://tl.net/blogs/552369-best-bw-game-of-the-kespa-era#20
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10251 Posts
February 17 2020 15:07 GMT
#6554
On February 17 2020 14:40 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2020 04:10 ppshchik wrote:
I have heard many great things about Savior being the first and only Bonjwa of Broodwar, can somebody recommend me some epic games of Savior in his prime?

This is a great game that is a must watch. Also, his games vs Nal_ra and Nada. I'll link Nada BS game when I get the chance.

https://tl.net/blogs/552369-best-bw-game-of-the-kespa-era#20

Here is perhaps the most famous game vs. Nal_rA on Shin Peaks of Baekdu:

https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/1684_Nal_rA_vs_sAviOr/vod
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
February 17 2020 16:54 GMT
#6555
Also some light reading material with links games.
https://tl.net/forum/final-edits/226236-god-of-the-battlefield-part-1
https://tl.net/forum/final-edits/405029-god-of-the-battlefield-part-2
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gbafreview
Profile Joined February 2020
1 Post
February 18 2020 12:43 GMT
#6556
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sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
February 18 2020 23:42 GMT
#6557
Hello, will there be an ASL Liquipedia Bracket Contest? Thanks.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
February 27 2020 10:11 GMT
#6558
KLM tv is live nothing in live events?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6790 Posts
February 27 2020 10:31 GMT
#6559
On February 27 2020 19:11 onlystar wrote:
KLM tv is live nothing in live events?

U can submit it.
BeaSteR
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden328 Posts
February 27 2020 19:25 GMT
#6560
Is the tl calender incorrect? I see ASL as saturday march 1st but its on sunday right?
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