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Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
January 26 2017 20:34 GMT
#3401
On January 25 2017 00:48 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 00:39 kogeT wrote:
Last is playing ghosts vs z?!

(cannot watch but I hope he does judging from what you wrote)

sorry oops, forgot about that, no ghosts either. We saw the usual units then guardians, devourers, valks, late muta switch, drops etc...

vod
Kiev
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-27 09:46:21
January 27 2017 09:45 GMT
#3402
So I recently decided to actually try to play some BW rather than just watch it and I have to say it's really sick that you can get games in <1 Minute in such an old game regardless of time of day (I can host). Also the game is so much fun, you learn a lot each game even if you loose (which you do a lot in the beginning). However, I have sadly noticed that nobody wants to play TvT. Is that just an issue on lower levels (currently managing to maintain a ~1000 rating) or is TvT just very unpopular in general? Really sucks only being able to play 2/3 of my matchups.
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
January 27 2017 09:49 GMT
#3403
Sadly a lot of people don't like playing mirror matchups :/
#FPPS
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
January 27 2017 11:29 GMT
#3404
I have played quite a few tvt games during the last couple of days, didn't see any problem with that. You might want to find a friend or a partner that likes to play TvT
Speaking of levels, no. A lot of good Ts pick P if their opponent is T. So basically yes, the MU is unpopular.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
January 27 2017 11:48 GMT
#3405
Ah I see. Yeah it's not like I never get to play it, just that it's by far my least played atm. I have just noticed that quiet a bunch of people simply leave or ask you to offrace when they see that it'd be TvT. I just didn't have that happen with vZ or vP.
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina246 Posts
January 27 2017 11:48 GMT
#3406
On January 27 2017 18:45 Lorch wrote:
So I recently decided to actually try to play some BW rather than just watch it and I have to say it's really sick that you can get games in <1 Minute in such an old game regardless of time of day (I can host). Also the game is so much fun, you learn a lot each game even if you loose (which you do a lot in the beginning). However, I have sadly noticed that nobody wants to play TvT. Is that just an issue on lower levels (currently managing to maintain a ~1000 rating) or is TvT just very unpopular in general? Really sucks only being able to play 2/3 of my matchups.


I could TvT you
Standard Queens
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
January 28 2017 04:38 GMT
#3407
Anyone else getting BW withdrawal after all the awesome ASL action lately?

BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 28 2017 04:44 GMT
#3408
On January 28 2017 13:38 FusionCutter wrote:
Anyone else getting BW withdrawal after all the awesome ASL action lately?


not really because I still play BW
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 28 2017 05:19 GMT
#3409
On January 28 2017 13:38 FusionCutter wrote:
Anyone else getting BW withdrawal after all the awesome ASL action lately?



The week until FvJ was the best. Watching JD and Flash stream was like watching Vegeta and Goku charging up
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
January 28 2017 08:53 GMT
#3410
On January 27 2017 18:45 Lorch wrote:
So I recently decided to actually try to play some BW rather than just watch it and I have to say it's really sick that you can get games in <1 Minute in such an old game regardless of time of day (I can host). Also the game is so much fun, you learn a lot each game even if you loose (which you do a lot in the beginning). However, I have sadly noticed that nobody wants to play TvT. Is that just an issue on lower levels (currently managing to maintain a ~1000 rating) or is TvT just very unpopular in general? Really sucks only being able to play 2/3 of my matchups.


I'm one of those who dodge TvT :D it just takes too long sometimes.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
January 28 2017 09:41 GMT
#3411
On January 28 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2017 18:45 Lorch wrote:
So I recently decided to actually try to play some BW rather than just watch it and I have to say it's really sick that you can get games in <1 Minute in such an old game regardless of time of day (I can host). Also the game is so much fun, you learn a lot each game even if you loose (which you do a lot in the beginning). However, I have sadly noticed that nobody wants to play TvT. Is that just an issue on lower levels (currently managing to maintain a ~1000 rating) or is TvT just very unpopular in general? Really sucks only being able to play 2/3 of my matchups.


I'm one of those who dodge TvT :D it just takes too long sometimes.


Boo this man! BOOOOOOOO!

TvT is the best matchup, stop forcing me to play TvP every single bloody game
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 28 2017 20:48 GMT
#3412
On January 28 2017 18:41 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
On January 27 2017 18:45 Lorch wrote:
So I recently decided to actually try to play some BW rather than just watch it and I have to say it's really sick that you can get games in <1 Minute in such an old game regardless of time of day (I can host). Also the game is so much fun, you learn a lot each game even if you loose (which you do a lot in the beginning). However, I have sadly noticed that nobody wants to play TvT. Is that just an issue on lower levels (currently managing to maintain a ~1000 rating) or is TvT just very unpopular in general? Really sucks only being able to play 2/3 of my matchups.


I'm one of those who dodge TvT :D it just takes too long sometimes.


Boo this man! BOOOOOOOO!

TvT is the best matchup, stop forcing me to play TvP every single bloody game

It's not even the best mirror.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
January 29 2017 11:32 GMT
#3413
anyone know how much time left till fantasy + jangbi come back from military service?
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toriak
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia477 Posts
January 29 2017 11:54 GMT
#3414
On January 29 2017 20:32 phosphorylation wrote:
anyone know how much time left till fantasy + jangbi come back from military service?

january 2015 is when jangbi disappeared - so i guess he will be back very soon ( military service lasts for 2 years if im not mistaken)
Kolpher1
Profile Joined January 2017
3 Posts
January 29 2017 22:59 GMT
#3415
Hi guys recently returned. I feel like I am getting input lag on iccup servers. Is that a problem with anyonr else? Im running windows 10
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-30 06:35:37
January 30 2017 06:35 GMT
#3416
On January 29 2017 05:48 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2017 18:41 Qikz wrote:
On January 28 2017 17:53 Dante08 wrote:
On January 27 2017 18:45 Lorch wrote:
So I recently decided to actually try to play some BW rather than just watch it and I have to say it's really sick that you can get games in <1 Minute in such an old game regardless of time of day (I can host). Also the game is so much fun, you learn a lot each game even if you loose (which you do a lot in the beginning). However, I have sadly noticed that nobody wants to play TvT. Is that just an issue on lower levels (currently managing to maintain a ~1000 rating) or is TvT just very unpopular in general? Really sucks only being able to play 2/3 of my matchups.


I'm one of those who dodge TvT :D it just takes too long sometimes.


Boo this man! BOOOOOOOO!

TvT is the best matchup, stop forcing me to play TvP every single bloody game

It's not even the best mirror.


It is. ZvZ is worst match up ever and PvP is BW equivalent of SC2.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
shall_burn
Profile Joined January 2016
252 Posts
January 30 2017 08:04 GMT
#3417
why is zvz the worst mu?
What is wrong with pvp so that many people dislike it too? Tediously microing your dragoons and reavers in shuttles is so enjoyable. + Show Spoiler +
have you seen this game

I'd really like to know why mirrors are misfavoured by many.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
January 30 2017 08:52 GMT
#3418
I think PvP is quite volatile BOs wise, e.g. Robo Obs vs Robo Shuttle Reaver vs DTs... so it's the lesser fun matchup for me.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
January 30 2017 11:52 GMT
#3419
On January 30 2017 17:04 shall_burn wrote:
why is zvz the worst mu?


Thats huge dynamic a paradoxicaly the biggest issue for me. Games tend to be fast, short and full of spamming lings and mutas (with occasional use of scourges). BO wins are common, strategy is downplayed by micro wars and endless spamming, luck seems to be a bigger factor than in TvT or PvP. Watching it was rarely exciting even when top Zergs were involved, and I remmember hating this MU when playing BW myself. This MU is for me an argument that its not a Terran a problem of BW, its the Zerg who is badly designed.
The truely exciting stage of play - hive-tech ZvZ, is incredibly rare.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 30 2017 11:57 GMT
#3420
On January 30 2017 20:52 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2017 17:04 shall_burn wrote:
why is zvz the worst mu?


Thats huge dynamic a paradoxicaly the biggest issue for me. Games tend to be fast, short and full of spamming lings and mutas (with occasional use of scourges). BO wins are common, strategy is downplayed by micro wars and endless spamming, luck seems to be a bigger factor than in TvT or PvP. Watching it was rarely exciting even when top Zergs were involved, and I remmember hating this MU when playing BW myself. This MU is for me an argument that its not a Terran a problem of BW, its the Zerg who is badly designed.
The truely exciting stage of play - hive-tech ZvZ, is incredibly rare.

that is all in your opinion but it doesnt make any of it true
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