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I need someone smart to make a loader/server for starcraft beta.
Any volunteers?
Some russian guy from 7x told me that they "are working on it". That was one year ago.
So I need a new programmer.
Probably a person who can setup a bnetD server is enough - it has to be an old version, since pvpgn requires starcraft 1.08+
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this requires MONEY. How much you willing to give?
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money? for what? oO
I will just email PWL then. and ask the people on dt's website, who will insert random trojans into it
Can someone tell me what was the name of that Russian programmer that made the first pgtour launcher? I;m not sure if he is programming now, because I think his wife died or something like that (Im not sure if he didnt commit suicide) - if I had to pay - I would pay him...
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at least noone asked where to download the beta
there is a link to it on this website
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Hmm TiLaser or something?
that's the Programmer who made the first PGT launcher =p.
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Aw man, I had to get rid of my beta iso to make space a while back, I'll have to find a copy again And wasn't the original PGT launcher programmer Gybs[something]?
Edit: Taken from the credits on PGT, yes, BnetX was done by GybSON
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As seen from this page: http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=32746&st=40 , I indeed do have a server capable of allowing Starcraft Beta connections. I have in fact started multiple games with friends. By started, however, I mean just that, only started. The game crashes with an error withing 5 seconds of starting, without fail. So the next step is getting the patches, or getting someone to manually patch the game for us, ala BWLauncher (this is out of my area of expertise, unfortunately). Any ideas?
Edit: fixed link
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On July 24 2006 22:05 alphablend wrote: No one is going to do that for free. Yeah, and thats exactly what was said about getting the server up and running in the first place (one that can have the Beta connect). And didn't someone do that for free? Yes, I did. So if you're not going to even attempt to be constructive, just don't post.
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beta? why the hell would you want to do that?
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On July 24 2006 22:36 Drowsy wrote: beta? why the hell would you want to do that?
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Ok, we actually got it playing, believe it or not. Videos from our first two games: [url blocked] After those 2, we could not get it to play any more, guess it was just a stroke of luck. But, those 2 gave me enough motivation to fix the error, and after about 4 hours of work, I did it: http://avantageous.com/NewStarcraftBetaExe.rar The game is still sorta buggy (I got desynched from my opponent one game, and got crashed another game), its definitely playable, so if you wanna see Starcraft from a time when drones have ultra-range, or when workers stack all the time, rather than just when mining resources, now's your chance.
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I get a storm.dll error running the EXE, do I need anything else?
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This would be really fun to mess around on, its like playing old atari games.
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On July 25 2006 15:18 pheer wrote: I get a storm.dll error running the EXE, do I need anything else? You need to have a full install of the beta, then you should just be able to extract that rar into your folder and replace the original exe. Then of course to actually play, you'll need a PvPGN server that doesn't have version checking turned on (easiest to run this yourself), and another person to play with. You'll also need to modify battle.snp with a hex editor (view my previous post with the link to staredit, there's more info on that there) in order to change the battle.net ip's to your custom one. After that, you're set, enjoy!
(I should really make a site for this, bleh, its too complex for most atm )
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I think netcraft can be the default server as it allows broken instances
the ip: 81.0.225.187
edit: I gave the old ip
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for some reason the server list is blank for me, but Im unsure what to hex exactly (everything?)
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On July 25 2006 16:57 8882 wrote: for some reason the server list is blank for me, but Im unsure what to hex exactly (everything?) I'll make a battle.snp for netcraft, give me a sec
Edit: Here you go: http://avantageous.com/NetcraftBattleSnp.rar
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zealots do 5 damage
nexus costs 250
probes mine 10 gas
you start with 1 psi and have to make a pylon
overlords have increased speed from the start
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Can you try the game in single player without downloading anything more than the beta file?
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reavers do 250dmg
havent tested archons since the game desyched
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larvae cannot be selected (no select larvae)
adrenal gladns ugprade is here
the pathing is horrible
game feels like warcraft2 cant click on minimap overlords fly fast but cant transport
protoss have something (a research) which looks like mind control but it is unavailible
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when you attack move a sieged tank, it changes the direction of the turret flying buildings can be selected with units oo
wonder if I should update, anyone interested in it?
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As I already said to 8882, I think this beta shows the perfect way to balance PvZ: Gives reavers 250 damage scarabs, and make storms longer and only cost 25 energy
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zealots do 5damage, don't they? but they attack really rapidly I think they do 10damage overall?
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On July 25 2006 19:18 tec27 wrote:As I already said to 8882, I think this beta shows the perfect way to balance PvZ: Gives reavers 250 damage scarabs, and make storms longer and only cost 25 energy  JEEZ that would rape terran O_O
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lol omg sc beta sounds crazy. hahaha.
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On July 19 2006 17:56 8882 wrote: ...
money? for what? oO
I will just email PWL then. and ask the people on dt's website, who will insert random trojans into it
Can someone tell me what was the name of that Russian programmer that made the first pgtour launcher? I;m not sure if he is programming now, because I think his wife died or something like that (Im not sure if he didnt commit suicide) - if I had to pay - I would pay him... gybs. WTF? Where do you get this info from? Its really terrible. Ive known the guy for 5 years, havent talked to him much lately, cos i dont use the computer much anymore, aside from visiting TLnet.
This would be just awful.
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Played around with zerg a bit more, and found some fun stuff with a defilers They have a normal, 5 damage attack, and an ability you have never seen: blood boil! Its like an irradiate, but you sacrifice a unit for it. Dark swarm also requires a unit sacrifice.
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I heard in the beta scouts could fly in like all funny.
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On July 26 2006 08:38 InToTheWannaB wrote: I heard in the beta scouts could fly in like all funny. Haven't used scouts yet, will have to do that. I can tell you that they cost only vespene though, same with siege tanks
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post more pics!!!!!!!!!!!! pleaseeeeeeeee :D
or upload a video to rapidshare or yousendit if you can:D
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On July 26 2006 09:56 IntoTheWow wrote: post more pics!!!!!!!!!!!! pleaseeeeeeeee :D
or upload a video to rapidshare or yousendit if you can:D I have a few videos of defilers in action, need to encode them before I can upload them though.
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what version of beta you have?
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On July 26 2006 10:15 Ashur wrote: what version of beta you have? Bottom-right reads 12.24.97 D
Edit: oh, and since I don't really have time to encode/upload a video right now, I thought I'd post a nice screenshot of Blood Boil in action:
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aaawesome! i need to try this someday
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to play it, you need a server and a modified battle.snp the server can be a pvpgn server set up via 2 computers (1 server, 1 client + other player(s)) using hamachi it can also be a standard pvpgn server, but it has to allow broken/unknown applications as for battle.snp you change the ips in it near 0001EDF4
you also need the cracked exe, otherwise you will get an error after building one unit thank tec27 for cracking
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well i got a problem here, i have downloaded
NetcraftBattleSnp.rar ( netcraft connection ? ) NewStarcraftBetaExe.rar
overwrite both, and try to connect, there is no respond. Stopped in "searching for the fastest battle.net server" and nothing happens.
BTW: I dont have orginal starcraft/brood war installed. But i think that unnesecery... sry for language.
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On July 26 2006 13:30 madzior wrote: well i got a problem here, i have downloaded
NetcraftBattleSnp.rar ( netcraft connection ? ) NewStarcraftBetaExe.rar
overwrite both, and try to connect, there is no respond. Stopped in "searching for the fastest battle.net server" and nothing happens.
BTW: I dont have orginal starcraft/brood war installed. But i think that unnesecery... sry for language.
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On July 26 2006 13:30 madzior wrote: well i got a problem here, i have downloaded
NetcraftBattleSnp.rar ( netcraft connection ? ) NewStarcraftBetaExe.rar
overwrite both, and try to connect, there is no respond. Stopped in "searching for the fastest battle.net server" and nothing happens.
BTW: I dont have orginal starcraft/brood war installed. But i think that unnesecery... sry for language.
I am relatively certain that Netcraft's setup makes it impossible for the beta version to connect. I only made that battle.snp based on a request, haven't even tested it TBH. I *hope* to have a little tutorial up by tonight as to how you can setup your own private server to play on.
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Netcraft is just fine, but if you have some another pvpgn mod, i will wait for your tutorial. I thought the snp works for netcraft for sure :p
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On July 26 2006 14:21 tec27 wrote: I *hope* to have a little tutorial up by tonight as to how you can setup your own private server to play on.
cant wait tried to setup my own sc server before but i'm sux with it If you write that, you will be my sc beta god
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What the fuck is sc beta anyway? I don't understand anything about this thread!
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On July 27 2006 03:46 WOstick wrote: What the fuck is sc beta anyway? I don't understand anything about this thread! A really really old version of sc, before the official version :X
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oh so its a calculator program thanks
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Please dont answer if you cant say anything about the topic. Stop that thread about "what is sc beta" cause that will make trash, and all valuable information will be burried by that useless talk.
Thank you.
tec27 we waiting for your tutorial I hope you will post it as soon as possible.
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great thx tec27!!, i got the
PvPGN-1.8.0rc2-1-Win32.zip
this sounds like the last release. Unpacked it and changed "bnetd.conf" in this way:
skip_versioncheck = true allow_unknown_version = true
that will allow the beta to connect. But i cant find where to change or see my pvpgn server IP, help please 
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On July 27 2006 09:29 madzior wrote:great thx tec27!!, i got the PvPGN-1.8.0rc2-1-Win32.zip this sounds like the last release. Unpacked it and changed "bnetd.conf" in this way: skip_versioncheck = true allow_unknown_version = true that will allow the beta to connect. But i cant find where to change or see my pvpgn server IP, help please  If you are using hamachi, you should be able to find it in the hamachi window. If you're not, go to Start->Run and type in "cmd" (without quotes). Then when the command prompt pops up, type in "ipconfig" (again without quotes). That'll give you the computer's IP Address.
Good luck!
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well tec27, i know my own ip adress, but i ask where to configure the PVPGN server ip adress ? somewhere in bnetd.conf ?
"servaddrs = "213.134.168.200" # default interface (all) and default port (6112)"
is that right ? 
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On July 27 2006 09:51 madzior wrote:well tec27, i know my own ip adress, but i ask where to configure the PVPGN server ip adress ? somewhere in bnetd.conf ? "servaddrs = "213.134.168.200" # default interface (all) and default port (6112)" is that right ?  Ah, you shouldn't really have to mess with that, just leave it on ":" and it'll work fine.
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Uh ok, i leave that option with ":", and when i try to connect from my sc beta, the in-starcraft window appears that could not connect " your system has been not configured to support 32bit internet applications blablabla" and the pvpgn server window looks like that:
Server is now running. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] packet_set_size: invalid size 1 for udp packet Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] handle_udp_packet: [348] got unknown udp packet type 0x0000, len 0 from 127.0.0.1:1047 Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] packet_set_size: invalid size 1 for udp packet Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:24 [error] handle_udp_packet: [348] got unknown udp packet type 0x0000, len 0 from 127.0.0.1:1047 Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] packet_set_size: invalid size 1 for udp packet Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] handle_udp_packet: [348] got unknown udp packet type 0x0000, len 0 from 127.0.0.1:1048 Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] packet_set_size: invalid size 1 for udp packet Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] packet_get_type: udp packet is shorter than header (len=0) Jul 27 19:25:28 [error] handle_udp_packet: [348] got unknown udp packet type 0x0000, len 0 from 127.0.0.1:1048
That error appears when i installed and uninstalled hamachi before connection to mine server was impossible but without that mess.
btw... I modified the battle.snp for mine own ip adress correctly.
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Are you running the server and the client on the same computer? If so, that won't work (as stated in the guide). It'd be fine if you were using a normal starcraft client, cause you can change which port it uses in that, but with the starcraft beta, you cannot. So it will try to use 6112, even though that port is already in use by the server, and then it will error with something along the lines of what you got.
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LOL WTFZ0R what kind of map is that? (WTF they had an observers mode? Why didn't they keep it???)
Btw, how do the comps work I'm curious ^^
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starcraft was designed to work with 12 players but later they delted 4 - they can be used in UMS mode though
one of the players controlls "dead" players' units - in beta they keep mining and attack you, if someone leaves one player controlls things like dark swarms (these are units which belong to him) etc
the "?" changes into a really lame face when you press start
the font is different when you write something you dont see your own id no sound during countdown, as well as no sound when a message in game comes the game reminds me of warcraft2 battle.net edition
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Btw 8882, I found out the other day that overlords do have a transport upgrade in beta, contrary to what we thought But their speed upgrade doesn't actually make them any faster, lol
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this keeps bugging me
btw
TANKS SHOOT WHILE MOVING OMGz queens are like mutas you start with 1 psi and 200minerals so you can "1pool"
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You actually start with 150 minerals, but thats ok (that might also depend on the map)
Vultures and mines are awesome in this version, with the exception of when your vultures get stuck on each other/mines, which happens a *lot*. Only way to get them off is to attack the ones that are stuck. But, as I said, mines rock. They come out of the vults *running* rather than just sitting still as the vults float off of them. The vults don't actually float off in this version either, rather, the mines run off the vultures. You can also mine things from a distance, along with the fact that mines attack larva. A favorite strategy of mine is to get 12 vultures and tell them to mine a larva (actually clicking on a larva). This will make them "shoot" mines out from like 6 tiles away, and the mines run in and explode on the larva, thereby killing the hatchery
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blood boil, not sure how it works now makes a cloud similar to dark swarm, but much smaller your own units inside it die? the game crashed before we tested
ultralisk "roar"?
mutalisk have acid spray it affects only one unit
mines
the green thing over the hive is the laser-like attack of the defiler
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8882, reading all your posts completely amazes me.
Very interesting, very eye opening. Starcraft could have been a complete flop with only a FEW minor differences (such as the mines). TIberian Sun by Westwood was a pretty decent RTS... but the soviets had underground tanks. IF ONLY THEY LET YOU ATTACK THEM when you had detection, the game could have survived. But NO.... you can't! So everyone got underground tanks ALL the time and it was gg allies.
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On July 27 2006 16:00 pheer wrote: 8882, reading all your posts completely amazes me.
Very interesting, very eye opening. Starcraft could have been a complete flop with only a FEW minor differences (such as the mines). TIberian Sun by Westwood was a pretty decent RTS... but the soviets had underground tanks. IF ONLY THEY LET YOU ATTACK THEM when you had detection, the game could have survived. But NO.... you can't! So everyone got underground tanks ALL the time and it was gg allies.
Tiberian sun was horrible, it might have been ok if westwood would have actually made it ( EA bought out westwood, took over development and the game sucked as a result)
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Oh, and to explain blood boil: All defiler spells require you to sacrifice a unit. So the use of blood boil would be: say you are attacking a base. you manage to penetrate to his workers, so you run one ling into the middle of them, then sacrifice it using blood boil. Voila, you have a stationary AoE damage cloud right in the middle of his workers.
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thats sexy. Wtf u guys think roar was? Bet we see some of this crap in SC2 when/if it ever comes out.
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as far as I know (this doesnt come from tests) ultralisk road made them run faster - like the broodwar ultralisks
there was also "zealot rage" (?) which made them run and(?) attack faster
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All I know is that in no way do zealots need to attack faster in this version :O
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Thank You Sir! I am reading this thread few days with great interest, but I have nothing to say. Now you give me a good reason! Edit: And some nice background music! I thought me and IntoTheWoW were the only Dream Theater fans around here. 
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Glad you liked it  And now, for some exciting news: After a few more hours of reversing, I managed to patch the next thing on the list: playing 1-player games. With the updated Exe, you can now start games where there is only 1 person in the lobby.
http://avantageous.com/NewStarcraftBetaExe.rar
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Awesome :D
Im downloading the videos, thanks.
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LOL reaver 250 damage balanced PvZ!
Didnt valks had a magic poweR?
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On July 28 2006 09:56 IntoTheWow wrote: LOL reaver 250 damage balanced PvZ!
Didnt valks had a magic poweR? You know, I haven't even built a valk yet, I'll have to try it
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Try it, i think the spell was called "overburn" or something like that.
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Yeah, Valks aren't in this version of the beta, that would explain why I hadn't built one Too bad though, with all the other incredibly overpowered things, I would have loved to see that
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someone would have to decompile the mpq archive
none ever did it from scratch many people claim to have done it, but none of them found the ultralisk roar icon for example..
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hi : i dled the iso of SC BETA, and im trying to conect a server: but there's no one online
Can you tell me if there's one up?
thanks!
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i dont have other pc to run my own server...
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argh, i followed the guide http://avantageous.com/SCBeta.htm
but i can't connect!! it's stuck at "Searching for fastest Battle.net server" and on my connection list, i see 2 Battle.net's....
my brother is hosting the server and I cant join it with sc beta, but when i tried sc 1.14, it works...
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You probably modified your battle.snp wrong. For one, if you see 2 battle.net's, that means you have two snp files in your folder, whereas you should be replacing the normal battle.snp with a modified one. Try redoing the modification, and making sure only one battle.snp is in the folder, and it should fix it.
If you still can't get it, I can modify the battle.snp for you, but in a couple days (I don't have a computer I can really do hex editing on atm).
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Thanks tec27, i redid my battle.snp and now it works! 
its really not that much different than i thought it would be
Here are some screenshots of differences i found: http://scbeta.icyhell.net/
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I Need a Starcraft beta that is possible to play
Would you send me that file?
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[url blocked] Package for SC beta and my current server. as well as other needed files to play ^.^ not 100% if everything working quite yet but assuming it is i need a report of bugs and the causes and i will begin fixing them, if the server currently wont support the beta then i guess i gotta play with it some more and force it to ^.^
questions/comments/concerns/bugs please report them to david_r_d@hotmail.com
Thanks.
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CidHighwind, you forum necromancer , we've already gotten StarCraft: Beta to work on Battle.net. It uses a l2k-Shadow's "StarCraft Beta Gate" launcher.
http://sc.gosugamers.net/features.php?i=a&id=2198
Go there for instructions on how to download StarCraft: Beta as well as downloading and setting up the Beta Gate. While l2k-Shadow is not currently supporting the project, he has released the source code if anyone wants to update it.
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Is anybody still involved with this StarCraft Beta (http://sc.gosugamers.net/features.php?i=a&id=2198)?
I am late to the scene, but I would love to find an SC Beta community. No matter how much I search forums and scour google, it seems there has been no talk of SC Beta for the last 14 months.
Currently I am using CidHighwinds link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3DFHMNXG) to download the SC Beta file (can't find it anywhere else on the internet).
I cannot find the "SC Beta Gate" (http://sc.gosugamers.net/features.php?i=a&id=2198) program that I need to log onto SC Beta Battle.net, though.
If anybody is out there, help?
I think the BETA could be a lot of fun. There are no maphacks or other gameplay affecting programs for it so it's the only pure StarCraft experience until StarCraft 2 comes out.
Also, it'd be interesting to have some serious balance discussion. Like, which race is the most broken and if the game is or is not playable on a competitive level.
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You do know that in beta 9 pool is like so fucking over powered that it should be known as the Jesus build. Not to mention countless other pre-release issues which were solved, what I am trying to say is why have balance discussion on a clearly unbalanced game...
Also there is probably no beta community since beta has been closed for... 10-11 years or something? You can still play it but the amount of people there is going to be very low. Anyway GL in you quest sir.
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I've uploaded SC: Beta Gate
You can download it here: http://www.filefactory.com/file/90f3fe/n/SC_Beta_Gate
However; the program will need to be slightly modified (the source code is included) in order for it to work with the latest B.net connection modifications.
l2k-Shadow modified the Beta to work with the current connection protocols. I've uploaded that file: http://www.filefactory.com/file/bc05ec/n/SC_Beta_Gate_rar
Follow the setup guidelines here: http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/features.php?i=a&id=2198&start=50
Also:
It may take a while for Battle.net to load upon connecting.
If you receive a UDP Plug, you must port forward 6112 on your machine.
The Beta Gate uses StarCraft shareware to connect, therefore, you won't be able to join private channels.
Make sure to open StarCraft Beta by using the Beta Gate program, not by opening the actual beta.exe.
Remember, this is a pre-release beta of StarCraft, so it is very prone to crashing; however, don't let that ruin your curiosity and fun. Have at!
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l2k-Spec-Ops_X,
I downloaded the SC Beta Gate from your link (http://www.filefactory.com/file/bc05ec/n/SC_Beta_Gate_rar)
When I try to run the SC Beta .exe file, I get an error that says "component 'MSWINSCK.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid"
I am using Windows XP Service Pack 2 and I've never had a problem running a program ever.
The only game I have installed on my computer is StarCraft Beta.
Is something missing from the SC Beta rar package?
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On September 19 2008 03:59 NPU)Disso( wrote: Search for that file on google, download it and throw it into your windows directory.
Good lookin out.
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On September 19 2008 03:59 NPU)Disso( wrote: Search for that file on google, download it and throw it into your windows directory.
What he said. Namely your System32 folder.
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