EPTSo tired of East..What can I do?? - Page 2
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CroN
United States22 Posts
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ProStimPack
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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NeVeR
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On November 14 2012 09:09 ProStimPack wrote: Is there a way to report hackers. This is my main question now, I REALLY will go the full effort in creating petitions or speaking with someone on the phone. Some people don't understand...I will PAY money to create a effort to stop bw hacking. Help me help you plz I don't think you understand. Blizzard isn't going to do shit. Petitioning or throwing money at them won't help either. They simply don't want to be bothered with BW. | ||
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ProStimPack
22 Posts
There is something we can do. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On November 14 2012 09:21 ProStimPack wrote: Oh I doubt that, there must be something we can do. I have logged many alias, give me a number and I will call or speak with something. Ill do a facebook/petiton soon tomorrow. There is something we can do. Yep. It's called playing iccup or fish which have anti hacks and ban people who are found abusing. | ||
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CroN
United States22 Posts
On November 14 2012 09:11 NeVeR wrote: Fastest might be somewhat okay if it were not for the fact that all of your workers are retardedly stacked up in one place. This totally discourages offensive play, since you need to make such an effort to prevent a storm/scarab/etc from going off on your workers. Also no one cares that good players came from fastest.. The fact that they switched only goes to show that they realized low-money is by far better. Yep. As I said I wasn't arguing which one was better. Just saying it's not as bad as people think. I remember situations in TvP where protoss made cannons at his choke so he can make 2 nexus while teching to drop to do what you mentioned. I made another cc when seeing the cannons and knew he wouldn't play offensive. Then used the cc for scanner (since you can't attach one to the main) and then scanned and knew he was teching. Then I got upgrades while making a turret ring around my base and marines from barracks. He lost his shuttle, while I had an upgrade advantage. The whole game he kept calling me a hacker because I knew he would drop and got turrets up in time. There is also a trick where you hotkey workers and hotkey a screen location to another base that has vision of geysers/mins, and then send all your workers there as the drop is coming. This allows all workers to move like a train and stacked. So drops aren't as strong as long as you're aware of the minimap. But yeah you're 100% correct. I just think that on SC1 original FMP isn't as bad as people imagine it to be. - and I agree with everyone else. Get the idea out of your head about banning hackers. If we couldn't do it as a group before sc2 came out what makes you think you can do it all by yourself now? lol. It's just the way it's always been. Deal with it or play somewhere else. | ||
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ProStimPack
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United States10328 Posts
On November 14 2012 09:25 ProStimPack wrote: I will take the advice users have given me.. But I will not stop, tomorrow I will speak with a rep and see how far I can get. This has gone to far. Tomorrow I will not back down, and you will see. Forum post/evidence Good luck, I guess. There's considerable precedent for everyone to believe that Blizzard won't do jack about people hacking BW on BNet. They have no incentive to do so. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On November 14 2012 09:25 ProStimPack wrote: I will take the advice users have given me.. But I will not stop, tomorrow I will speak with a rep and see how far I can get. This has gone to far. Tomorrow I will not back down, and you will see. Forum post/evidence just use wlauncher O_O it detects hacks.. and blizzard really isnt gonna do anything i got ip banned from west once while playing d2 single player with a runeword mod and i called blizzard they said they have this automated banning thing that bans you if some kind of hack is detected. they wont go out of their way to put in manpower for the purpose of removing hackers... what your saying is kindve silly... just use the launcher.. if it detects hackers and you dont want to play then leave. east does have alot of hackers but ive played a bunch of games where there werent any. | ||
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ProStimPack
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ProStimPack
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I will iron out the details tomorrow, but if interested plz send me a pm. | ||
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CroN
United States22 Posts
The game is starcraft and the people are the players. The cheaters are the hackers. The ideal way of this problem to get solved is for everyone to complain and for the owners (blizzard) do something about it. We tried this and it did not turn out how you think it would turn out. Proof of this is the removal of SC1 ladder system. There was a ladder button you could press that was among join and create, this button showed the top 1000 players on the ladder. When you pressed this button it showed people with 9999 ratings, 100000 wins and 0 loses. Winbot killed ladder. You would think blizzard would step in and fix this right? Nope. They just removed the ladder. People just went on to make their own leagues and ladders such as scd, vgt, Iccup, fish, etc. People played games and reported on websites to update the website ladders and if anyone was suspected of hacking the replays were sent in to be observed by a group of people. If enough evidence was gathered then that hacker was banned. Blizzard had no involvement with these people. Blizzard did not even patch the game for years and years. Fast forward to today The streets are no longer busy and the stadiums are nearly empty. Nearly no one trains anymore and the competition is no longer as strong. The creators of this game now moved onto its next game. Now some new people get involved in this old game and they don't like the cheaters. They raise their voice to argue against the cheaters but nothing happens. The owners do nothing. Everyone looks at this guy, this guy who has hope, but he was not around when it were thousands just like him, and those thousands got the same empty answer. conclusion Blizzard won't do anything. Even if you did manage to get a hacker banned, they will most likely just come back on with another cdkey or account. Alot of times hackers wouldn't even get banned, they would just get their keys muted. So the ideal vision you have right now is practically not even a possibility. Blizzard didn't even do anything when 90% of their ladder had hackers. Why would they step in now that it doesn't even matter anymore? It's a fruitless effort if you're putting it all towards b.net and Blizzard. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:41 GGzerG wrote: I think there is a lot more hackers in these FMP games, if you really want to rid yourself of hackers you should try to lean more towards non money maps, once you get a grip on how it is played it is more enjoyable as well. Also no offense to you or anyone that likes FMP, but it isn't how StarCraft was made to be played, I don't even consider it real starcraft. The Iccup admin crew has always let players hack in 3x3, FFA, UMS, BGH and Fastest games. To quote a former admin (diamond) "we just don't care lol". I'm pretty sure things have not changed. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On November 14 2012 09:09 eNtitY~ wrote: You could play in http://starcraftdream.com FMP leagues. We have a team of Mods and a 3rd party program designed to stop hacking in the league. LOL SCD is still running ? :O | ||
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TechnoZerg
Australia75 Posts
if you want to play competitively go play scd. by competitively i mean go there if you want to actually learn how to play FPM. just don't get disheartened when you get thrashed 0-10 by D players. if you want some inhouse 1v1s (with less probability of drawing hackers) go to channel "as" on east server. most are noobs but there are many legit players there who would most likely beat you. if you want to keep pubbing, you run the high risk of facing hackers. been like that for years. can't speak for the fourth option people are talking about (ICCUP) since i haven't played it. gl hf | ||
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Jealous
10232 Posts
On November 14 2012 10:37 CroN wrote: You're late to the party. Think of it like this. Imagine a time and place where the lands flourished and the streets were busy with people. Everyone was into a certain game and stadiums were filled and the lines to sign up for competition were long. People were training in the back rooms everyday. Everyone tried really had to do well at the game and they hated when people would cheat to win. This caused a lot of complaints and trouble. The game is starcraft and the people are the players. The cheaters are the hackers. The ideal way of this problem to get solved is for everyone to complain and for the owners (blizzard) do something about it. We tried this and it did not turn out how you think it would turn out. Proof of this is the removal of SC1 ladder system. There was a ladder button you could press that was among join and create, this button showed the top 1000 players on the ladder. When you pressed this button it showed people with 9999 ratings, 100000 wins and 0 loses. Winbot killed ladder. You would think blizzard would step in and fix this right? Nope. They just removed the ladder. People just went on to make their own leagues and ladders such as scd, vgt, Iccup, fish, etc. People played games and reported on websites to update the website ladders and if anyone was suspected of hacking the replays were sent in to be observed by a group of people. If enough evidence was gathered then that hacker was banned. Blizzard had no involvement with these people. Blizzard did not even patch the game for years and years. Fast forward to today The streets are no longer busy and the stadiums are nearly empty. Nearly no one trains anymore and the competition is no longer as strong. The creators of this game now moved onto its next game. Now some new people get involved in this old game and they don't like the cheaters. They raise their voice to argue against the cheaters but nothing happens. The owners do nothing. Everyone looks at this guy, this guy who has hope, but he was not around when it were thousands just like him, and those thousands got the same empty answer. conclusion Blizzard won't do anything. Even if you did manage to get a hacker banned, they will most likely just come back on with another cdkey or account. Alot of times hackers wouldn't even get banned, they would just get their keys muted. So the ideal vision you have right now is practically not even a possibility. Blizzard didn't even do anything when 90% of their ladder had hackers. Why would they step in now that it doesn't even matter anymore? It's a fruitless effort if you're putting it all towards b.net and Blizzard. Sad but true. I miss being high on the East ladder through legitimate means ;-; | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
Haven't seen any hackers, or maybe the hacks don't help them enough. | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
On November 14 2012 08:16 NeVeR wrote: I wouldn't count on Blizzard to do anything that concerns BW from now on... Just play normal maps on iccup/fish? Fastest is crap anyway. If you really want to play money, I'm not sure but I think some koreans might play it on fish (not fastest, but some different money map). I see koreans playing money maps in pc bangs all the time. There is a community for it, presumably mostly hacker free. | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
On November 14 2012 09:12 CroN wrote: haha SCD is still running leagues? It's been forever. On November 14 2012 11:10 endy wrote: Come to play fmp on iccup, there are some occasional hackers but it's rare. LOL SCD is still running ? :O Yeah, ~6500 games a season still. Community is active and a lot of old players still around. | ||
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