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sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
May 10 2012 03:56 GMT
#361
The only part of the comments I found amusing were that so many of them found Z imbalanced and weak. Something everyone else has been saying for a long time. Good to see the masses of pros and coaches think so too. Hope HotS fixes these issues. So far the beta map hasn't felt too promising to me. The "siege" units are basically just npc-spawning units.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 10 2012 03:57 GMT
#362
On May 10 2012 12:55 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:52 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:50 Dodgin wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:46 mayneeahk wrote:
Oh cool, I guess now I get to pick a BW team to cheer for.


Pick Stars!


we should make a thread about this.....new fan recruitment thread.


That's a brilliant idea actually, a hype thread including all the teams and to let the sc2 fans decide who to cheer for.


Just tell us whose the underdog. Ace right? Okay I'll cheer for Ace.

Nono, KT is the underdog for sure. Gogo, root for KT.


Fantasy can't play Bio to save his life and SC2 is bio only, root for T1
ॐ
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 10 2012 04:00 GMT
#363
On May 10 2012 12:56 sCCrooked wrote:
The only part of the comments I found amusing were that so many of them found Z imbalanced and weak. Something everyone else has been saying for a long time. Good to see the masses of pros and coaches think so too. Hope HotS fixes these issues. So far the beta map hasn't felt too promising to me. The "siege" units are basically just npc-spawning units.

what do u mean by beta map?
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 04:01 GMT
#364
Zerg really isn't that weak though. Early scouting? Fine. It's the role reversal of PvZ in bw where your timing was everything and you had to react to whatever the zerg was doing. ._.

It's too early for them to be passing on judgement on the balance design of SC2.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
May 10 2012 04:01 GMT
#365
On May 10 2012 13:00 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:56 sCCrooked wrote:
The only part of the comments I found amusing were that so many of them found Z imbalanced and weak. Something everyone else has been saying for a long time. Good to see the masses of pros and coaches think so too. Hope HotS fixes these issues. So far the beta map hasn't felt too promising to me. The "siege" units are basically just npc-spawning units.

what do u mean by beta map?


It's a custom map that implements the units that have already been removed from the alpha.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 10 2012 04:02 GMT
#366
On May 10 2012 12:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:53 Fionn wrote:
Wow, May 19th is the GSL finals and May 20th is the 11 Hour Super Mega Opening Day Elephant Incoming Special. Going to be huge.

I know a lot of people hate SC2, but this is gonna make this season incredibly interesting. For the past three fucking years it's been KT and SKT1 atop of the ladder and playing in the finals, but with SC2 thrown in, all the teams are now at even playing grounds. With ACE saying they're good at SC2, they might actually get a postseason for once.


its true at least with SC2 we'll have other teams do well, hell CJ with SC2 might actually break their curse.
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:55 Holgerius wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:52 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:50 Dodgin wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:46 mayneeahk wrote:
Oh cool, I guess now I get to pick a BW team to cheer for.


Pick Stars!


we should make a thread about this.....new fan recruitment thread.


That's a brilliant idea actually, a hype thread including all the teams and to let the sc2 fans decide who to cheer for.


Just tell us whose the underdog. Ace right? Okay I'll cheer for Ace.

Nono, KT is the underdog for sure. Gogo, root for KT.


lawl

but if july and nada enter Ace as a part of their military service ACE would become the strongest :p

OMG YES..
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 10 2012 04:03 GMT
#367
On May 10 2012 12:57 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:55 Holgerius wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:52 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:50 Dodgin wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:46 mayneeahk wrote:
Oh cool, I guess now I get to pick a BW team to cheer for.


Pick Stars!


we should make a thread about this.....new fan recruitment thread.


That's a brilliant idea actually, a hype thread including all the teams and to let the sc2 fans decide who to cheer for.


Just tell us whose the underdog. Ace right? Okay I'll cheer for Ace.

Nono, KT is the underdog for sure. Gogo, root for KT.


Fantasy can't play Bio to save his life and SC2 is bio only, root for T1


T1 sounds too much like TT1 for my liking.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
May 10 2012 04:04 GMT
#368
If Flash follows through with playing Protoss, he will be my favorite celebrity ever!! Not just Starcraft celebrity, any kind of celebrity
Want to sport eSports? Disable adblock. P.S. En Taro Adun!!
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
May 10 2012 04:04 GMT
#369
Protoss is still the achilles' heel of (T)Light, lol.
(´・ω・`)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51104 Posts
May 10 2012 04:05 GMT
#370
On May 10 2012 13:03 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:57 endy wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:55 Holgerius wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:52 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:50 Dodgin wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:46 mayneeahk wrote:
Oh cool, I guess now I get to pick a BW team to cheer for.


Pick Stars!


we should make a thread about this.....new fan recruitment thread.


That's a brilliant idea actually, a hype thread including all the teams and to let the sc2 fans decide who to cheer for.


Just tell us whose the underdog. Ace right? Okay I'll cheer for Ace.

Nono, KT is the underdog for sure. Gogo, root for KT.


Fantasy can't play Bio to save his life and SC2 is bio only, root for T1


T1 sounds too much like TT1 for my liking.


plus they won last season.root for underdogs, root for Team 8.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 10 2012 04:05 GMT
#371
EVeryone saying Protoss is strong and Zerg is shit. People who have played this game for <month knows what Blizzard apparently doesn't? :D??? In all seriousness, everybody please stick to your races TT_TT
LTLgnuoy00
Profile Joined June 2011
United States52 Posts
May 10 2012 04:05 GMT
#372
fan recruitment is an AMAZING idea.... go team 8!!! .... they have no sponsor.... they're the real underdogs.... and they have an emo jaedong...

as for this format... it seems really do or die as everyone has said... if these pros fail to produce interesting SC2 games then this all fails....

i think that everyone's skill in bw is going to still be okay for my personal enjoyment so i won't care if they don't practice it as much.... it will just either be all mind games or all standard macro games with no new builds....

i just hope that i will come to enjoy SC2 as much as bw (that's gonna be hard...) right now... all i see are giant balls of armies bashing each other over and over again....
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 10 2012 04:06 GMT
#373
Team 8 zergs struggling and may switch??? Jaedong, please don't switch!!!
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
May 10 2012 04:06 GMT
#374
noooooooooooo flash dont switch to protoss
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
May 10 2012 04:08 GMT
#375
The more I think about it, I can't help but feel this will be return of the "SNARRFFFFF!!!!" moments.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 10 2012 04:08 GMT
#376
On May 10 2012 12:56 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:53 Fionn wrote:
Wow, May 19th is the GSL finals and May 20th is the 11 Hour Super Mega Opening Day Elephant Incoming Special. Going to be huge.

I know a lot of people hate SC2, but this is gonna make this season incredibly interesting. For the past three fucking years it's been KT and SKT1 atop of the ladder and playing in the finals, but with SC2 thrown in, all the teams are now at even playing grounds. With ACE saying they're good at SC2, they might actually get a postseason for once.


Yeah, but they just said they're practicing between two different games man. The format is still a pain in the ass. From a pure competitive standpoint; it's ugly and the results just won't matter.

Would have been more fun if it were just SC2.


I think if KESPA was given the choice, they'd just want SC2, but they NEED the Brood War fans in Korea. This season is going to be KESPA trying to their hardest to get the Brood War fans to come and see the BW games, cross their fingers and hope when SC2 comes that they'll be into it. If it was only SC2, then there is a huge possibility that a lot of the fans would have went, 'No Brood War? Fuck this. I don't want to watch this new game.' This way, they get to see Brood War at the start and hopefully stick around, watch SC2 and get more into it as the season goes along.

Best case scenario: Fans stay for both BW and SC2, support both and by the end of the season, a lot of the BW fans are now both BW/SC2 fans.

Worst case scenario: Fans watch BW, leave, and the SC2 half of the league is 8 white people watching and a Bisu fangirl.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
May 10 2012 04:08 GMT
#377
So this won't be on eSports TV youtube channel?
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 10 2012 04:12 GMT
#378
someone probably should start a thread introducing the proteams to sc2 fans since its starting in like 11 days. We need the sc2 fans to be just as interested.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 10 2012 04:13 GMT
#379
On May 10 2012 13:08 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:56 StarStruck wrote:
On May 10 2012 12:53 Fionn wrote:
Wow, May 19th is the GSL finals and May 20th is the 11 Hour Super Mega Opening Day Elephant Incoming Special. Going to be huge.

I know a lot of people hate SC2, but this is gonna make this season incredibly interesting. For the past three fucking years it's been KT and SKT1 atop of the ladder and playing in the finals, but with SC2 thrown in, all the teams are now at even playing grounds. With ACE saying they're good at SC2, they might actually get a postseason for once.


Yeah, but they just said they're practicing between two different games man. The format is still a pain in the ass. From a pure competitive standpoint; it's ugly and the results just won't matter.

Would have been more fun if it were just SC2.


I think if KESPA was given the choice, they'd just want SC2, but they NEED the Brood War fans in Korea. This season is going to be KESPA trying to their hardest to get the Brood War fans to come and see the BW games, cross their fingers and hope when SC2 comes that they'll be into it. If it was only SC2, then there is a huge possibility that a lot of the fans would have went, 'No Brood War? Fuck this. I don't want to watch this new game.' This way, they get to see Brood War at the start and hopefully stick around, watch SC2 and get more into it as the season goes along.

Best case scenario: Fans stay for both BW and SC2, support both and by the end of the season, a lot of the BW fans are now both BW/SC2 fans.

Worst case scenario: Fans watch BW, leave, and the SC2 half of the league is 8 white people watching and a Bisu fangirl.


aaa, the pressure is on ><
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
May 10 2012 04:13 GMT
#380
Really love that Flash quote about his dedication and expectations. He downplays how good he will be, but still shows just how determined and ambitious he is. I also like that he doesn't think he could get to his SC1 skill without at least 2-3 years of practice, longer than SC2 has even been out really. This could really be taken as a second statement about SC2 for those that still won't give it a chance... remember, BW was once this young and undeveloped as well. Imagine if no one had given it a chance back then.

I'm definitely disappointed with the amount of contempt and vitriol I've seen in this thread. There are plenty of us who truly do enjoy watching both games, and the elitism and ingroup vs outgroup mentality that seems quite accepted throughout this thread is really unnecessary and poorly representative of the very mature community that really drew me into TL in the first place years ago.
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