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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 10 2012 04:15 GMT
#381
Wow it will all happen on my birthday.

So nice ^_^
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
May 10 2012 04:15 GMT
#382
On May 10 2012 13:08 Goldfish wrote:
So this won't be on eSports TV youtube channel?


Probably on eSports TV just not English nor a dedicated English website.

It's really disappointing because SC2 fans are quite fickle about casters not being in English.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
May 10 2012 04:16 GMT
#383
[QUOTE]On May 10 2012 13:08 Fionn wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 10 2012 12:56 StarStruck wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 10 2012 12:53 Fionn wrote:
Worst case scenario: Fans watch BW, leave, and the SC2 half of the league is 8 white people watching and a Bisu fangirl.[/QUOTE]

I lol'd
jaedong imba
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
May 10 2012 04:19 GMT
#384
the games will be hilarious to say the least...can't imagine practicing for two game for one team match o-o
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
May 10 2012 04:20 GMT
#385
Can't wait to see who all is switching races
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
May 10 2012 04:20 GMT
#386
Switch to Protoss Flash! You know you want to!!!
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
May 10 2012 04:22 GMT
#387
On May 10 2012 13:15 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:08 Goldfish wrote:
So this won't be on eSports TV youtube channel?


Probably on eSports TV just not English nor a dedicated English website.

It's really disappointing because SC2 fans are quite fickle about casters not being in English.


on the other hand, they can't caster bash if they don't understand what they are saying...
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 04:24:54
May 10 2012 04:23 GMT
#388
On May 10 2012 12:36 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 12:34 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if Flash turned out to be terrible at SC2?

it would be funny but it wont happen ;D


Isn't he only mid-masters? That's not actually good.

On May 10 2012 12:38 Dakkas wrote:
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Lee Jae Gyun (Stars): Light suffered a lot at the hands of Protoss in SC1, so he tried Protoss at first, but after three days of excruciating practice, he changed back to Terran. No player in particular has switched races. A Zerg player has said he'd try out Terran, but it turned out he needed a lot of practice.


Oh how I laughed


Apparently, this is pretty common, people race-switching for like two hours and switching back.

On May 10 2012 12:44 cLicK wrote:
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On May 10 2012 12:25 ShadeR wrote:
Q: You said that you think this season is good for your team, could you elaborate?
Jaehoon: We've been preparing for SC2 before other teams, and I think we try harder. Also, we're receiving some help as we practice. I can't tell you what it is, but it gives us an advantage.

Might be over the line here.. but this is why u guys have no sponsor.... your shitty proleague performance...


I can't help but feel betrayed. Say what you will about what it means. But the majority of us wholeheartedly supported the players, week after week, always believing in them. Its not entirely their faults, but this whole situation, especially with Team 8 makes me incredibly bitter. Irrational?, so be it -_-. Hope of BW...right...

Id bet on that "advantage" being contacting Coach Lee, HyuN and TSL for help...(ex-MBC).


If your secret weapon is Hyun, who's 0-3, you're probably in trouble.

On May 10 2012 12:44 NHY wrote:
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On May 10 2012 12:26 Bear4188 wrote:
I don't think it will take BW players a year to catch up simply because their main shortcomings (most likely), the strategies and late game understanding, are going to be completely nuked for everyone SC2 and BW alike when Heart of the Swarm is released probably at the end of this year or the start of 2013. Then we'll have a mostly even footing for everyone, though probably with plenty of balance problems that would need be hammered out.


Yes and No.

HotS will disrupt the playing field, but that means there will be more differences between SC2 and BW.


HotS is also (somewhat) mechanically harder due to more interesting units like the Oracle, according to people who've played it. That maybe helps the BW players?

On May 10 2012 12:56 sCCrooked wrote:
The only part of the comments I found amusing were that so many of them found Z imbalanced and weak. Something everyone else has been saying for a long time. Good to see the masses of pros and coaches think so too. Hope HotS fixes these issues. So far the beta map hasn't felt too promising to me. The "siege" units are basically just npc-spawning units.


Zerg is getting buffed literally tomorrow. The Oracle is a really good unit, and the Viper's pretty neat, I guess, 'cause it's like a defiler?

On May 10 2012 13:05 bokchoi wrote:
EVeryone saying Protoss is strong and Zerg is shit. People who have played this game for <month knows what Blizzard apparently doesn't? :D??? In all seriousness, everybody please stick to your races TT_TT


Protoss are smashing everyone in the GSL at the moment. Blizz says it's on Terran to use mid-game map control to secure a late game advantage. Zerg, as I mentioned, will be stronger tomorrow, but most likely the reason BW players don't like it is because it's a reactive race and they don't know how to react yet. .

On May 10 2012 13:08 Diamond wrote:
The more I think about it, I can't help but feel this will be return of the "SNARRFFFFF!!!!" moments.


Man, if Flash does anything less then perfectly, the reactions will be hilarious. But yes, we're looking January 2011 Code A level play here.

On May 10 2012 13:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:15 setzer wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:08 Goldfish wrote:
So this won't be on eSports TV youtube channel?


Probably on eSports TV just not English nor a dedicated English website.

It's really disappointing because SC2 fans are quite fickle about casters not being in English.


on the other hand, they can't caster bash if they don't understand what they are saying...


You'd be surprised. There was an SC2 tournament in Paris last week, and all of Reddit was watching the French commentary for some reason.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 04:25:26
May 10 2012 04:24 GMT
#389
Probably the most interesting thing is if and when they start playing current SC2 progamers. Perhaps by allowing them to participate in GSL prelims. It would be a funny sight to see TBLS makikng their way up through Code B/A.
Meh
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 10 2012 04:26 GMT
#390
the level of play of the SC2 will be atrocious.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 10 2012 04:27 GMT
#391
On May 10 2012 13:23 Ribbon wrote:
Protoss are smashing everyone in the GSL at the moment. Blizz says it's on Terran to use mid-game map control to secure a late game advantage. Zerg, as I mentioned, will be stronger tomorrow, but most likely the reason BW players don't like it is because it's a reactive race and they don't know how to react yet. .

This is everything wrong with SC2....
Blizzard knows better than the progamers? And their 50% in all matchups spiel... ughhh....
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 04:33:30
May 10 2012 04:29 GMT
#392
On May 10 2012 13:27 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:23 Ribbon wrote:
Protoss are smashing everyone in the GSL at the moment. Blizz says it's on Terran to use mid-game map control to secure a late game advantage. Zerg, as I mentioned, will be stronger tomorrow, but most likely the reason BW players don't like it is because it's a reactive race and they don't know how to react yet. .

This is everything wrong with SC2....
Blizzard knows better than the progamers? And their 50% in all matchups spiel... ughhh....


FWIW, Day9 is in full agreement with Blizzard on this issue. And if they're wrong, Blizzard has shown they can be counted on to do the smart thing as a last resort. (The queen energy buff was basically vetoed by State of the Game, and Maka famously got Void Rays nerfed)

I'd trust Blizzard over Idra
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 10 2012 04:29 GMT
#393
On May 10 2012 13:24 baubo wrote:
Probably the most interesting thing is if and when they start playing current SC2 progamers. Perhaps by allowing them to participate in GSL prelims. It would be a funny sight to see TBLS makikng their way up through Code B/A.


That would probably be the worst thing to happen. If Flash loses to some Code B scrub it'll turn off all the BW elitists and SC2 viewership will go down. FXOBoss had a very interesting blog post in which he said the bubble for SC2 has already ended, so it's a very critical time for SC2. Best case scenario would be for TBLS to do extremely well, but no one player dominates.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
May 10 2012 04:32 GMT
#394
Fuck, fuck, fuckitidy fuck fuck. Ace match in SC2, fuck.
ryanymoon
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada38 Posts
May 10 2012 04:34 GMT
#395
My interpretation of the Jaehoon quote:

Possibility 1. The head coach of TSL is Lee Woon-Jae, who was the coach for MBCGame (You guys will recognize him if you watched Hyungjoon Becomes a Progamer). I think it is highly likely that TSL is helping Team 8 practice for SC2.

Possibility 2. Ju Hoon was the head coach for SKT1 during Boxer's days. Since Boxer is the owner of SlayerS, his team is helping with practice.

What do you guys think?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
May 10 2012 04:34 GMT
#396
On May 10 2012 13:29 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:27 ShadeR wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:23 Ribbon wrote:
Protoss are smashing everyone in the GSL at the moment. Blizz says it's on Terran to use mid-game map control to secure a late game advantage. Zerg, as I mentioned, will be stronger tomorrow, but most likely the reason BW players don't like it is because it's a reactive race and they don't know how to react yet. .

This is everything wrong with SC2....
Blizzard knows better than the progamers? And their 50% in all matchups spiel... ughhh....


FWIW, Day9 is in full agreement with Blizzard on this issue. And if they're wrong, Blizzard has shown they can be counted on to do the smart thing as a last resort. (The queen energy buff was basically vetoed by State of the Game, and Maka famously got Void Rays nerfed)

I'd trust Blizzard over Idra



What has blizzard done that was smart?
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 04:39:34
May 10 2012 04:38 GMT
#397
On May 10 2012 13:29 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:24 baubo wrote:
Probably the most interesting thing is if and when they start playing current SC2 progamers. Perhaps by allowing them to participate in GSL prelims. It would be a funny sight to see TBLS makikng their way up through Code B/A.


That would probably be the worst thing to happen. If Flash loses to some Code B scrub it'll turn off all the BW elitists and SC2 viewership will go down. FXOBoss had a very interesting blog post in which he said the bubble for SC2 has already ended, so it's a very critical time for SC2. Best case scenario would be for TBLS to do extremely well, but no one player dominates.


It's very doubtful any of the TBLS loses to some random SC2 progamer(not from one of current BW clubhouses). That said, as long as the BW pros do very well as a group, I don't think it really matters. The ranking may not be the same as they are now, but I think there's overall so much talent it doesn't matter. Perhaps Bisu falters a bit and Best does better. Perhaps Jangbi go back loser king but Shine starts trolling Code S. In the end, there will certainly be a huge influx of talent and they will do well as a group.

Edit: But yes, the most recognizable players not playing well probably would hurt the scene somewhat. But I think most of them will. I can't imagine they won't given how smart they are at RTS.
Meh
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 10 2012 04:39 GMT
#398
this thread should probably be included with sc2 now. might as well start the transition as well.
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
May 10 2012 04:40 GMT
#399
with the announced dates it's all but confirmed that MLG anaheim will host a proleague match
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
May 10 2012 04:40 GMT
#400
On May 10 2012 13:38 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 13:29 kakaman wrote:
On May 10 2012 13:24 baubo wrote:
Probably the most interesting thing is if and when they start playing current SC2 progamers. Perhaps by allowing them to participate in GSL prelims. It would be a funny sight to see TBLS makikng their way up through Code B/A.


That would probably be the worst thing to happen. If Flash loses to some Code B scrub it'll turn off all the BW elitists and SC2 viewership will go down. FXOBoss had a very interesting blog post in which he said the bubble for SC2 has already ended, so it's a very critical time for SC2. Best case scenario would be for TBLS to do extremely well, but no one player dominates.


It's very doubtful any of the TBLS loses to some random SC2 progamer(not from one of current BW clubhouses).


I don't know, Bisu loses to random progamers in qualifiers already.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
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