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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 12 2012 09:21 GMT
#1001
I see it'd been good idea to stay away from BW forum for awhile. Hopefully the bitterness goes down a little bit after deathblow (of Korean scene) gets done and over with. No need to get into all these personal attack, even if you believe them it just cheapens the thread...

The replay packs would be useless for me b/c the computers I use are usually public (starcraft install obviously forbidden) T_T
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
May 12 2012 10:44 GMT
#1002
Fuck this shit.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
May 12 2012 11:13 GMT
#1003
Leaving the proscene, as I don't really like sc2.
Not leaving TL, but will coming here less frequently.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
KareKano
Profile Joined May 2012
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 11:43:31
May 12 2012 11:37 GMT
#1004
guys hey

Day9 is not a villain, if anything, he is a victim

He often claims that he misses somethings that we want to see in star2, he even made a video about it (see Day9 baseball vs frisbees on youtube). He just moved on because he wants to make his voice count in the development of Star2, as a fan. I too am an elitist, since 2006 to be honest, Savior vs Nal_rA finals are my favourite still then, fair to say that tl mods do not like me for being easily offensive towards star2 sometimes, but we gotta try to make our voice louder, and claim for the implement of these mechanics in star2, Blizzard removed them not for ignorance, but on purpose, now with 2 expansions coming, it is time for us to ask for patrol attacking, moving shots, stacking.
To say that i will play starcraft 2 is a lie, but i will try to address these issues anytime, whatever it can be read so that maybe things will just get better
they come and destroy everything we loved
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 12 2012 11:45 GMT
#1005
On May 12 2012 20:37 KareKano wrote:
guys hey

Day9 is not a villain, if anything, he is a victim

He often claims that he misses somethings that we want to see in star2, he even made a video about it (see Day9 baseball vs frisbees on youtube). He just moved on because he wants to make his voice count in the development of Star2, as a fan. I too am an elitist, since 2006 to be honest, Savior vs Nal_rA finals are my favourite still then, fair to say that tl mods do not like me for being easily offensive towards star2 sometimes, but we gotta try to make our voice louder, and claim for the implement of these mechanics in star2, Blizzard removed them not for ignorance, but on purpose, now with 2 expansions coming, it is time for us to ask for patrol attacking, moving shots, stacking.
To say that i will play starcraft 2 is a lie, but i will try to address these issues anytime, whatever it can be read so that maybe things will just get better


I think most of what you asks actually got changed, since the units responds lot faster and smarter to your commands. I really dont think so patrol move is needed at all. As for stacking, i agree with you, moving shots, i dont know, with the units being controlled lot easier, i 'am not sure if needed at all, definitely would raise the skill level, but dont know if needed at all
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
May 12 2012 11:55 GMT
#1006
On May 12 2012 20:45 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 20:37 KareKano wrote:
guys hey

Day9 is not a villain, if anything, he is a victim

He often claims that he misses somethings that we want to see in star2, he even made a video about it (see Day9 baseball vs frisbees on youtube). He just moved on because he wants to make his voice count in the development of Star2, as a fan. I too am an elitist, since 2006 to be honest, Savior vs Nal_rA finals are my favourite still then, fair to say that tl mods do not like me for being easily offensive towards star2 sometimes, but we gotta try to make our voice louder, and claim for the implement of these mechanics in star2, Blizzard removed them not for ignorance, but on purpose, now with 2 expansions coming, it is time for us to ask for patrol attacking, moving shots, stacking.
To say that i will play starcraft 2 is a lie, but i will try to address these issues anytime, whatever it can be read so that maybe things will just get better


I think most of what you asks actually got changed, since the units responds lot faster and smarter to your commands. I really dont think so patrol move is needed at all. As for stacking, i agree with you, moving shots, i dont know, with the units being controlled lot easier, i 'am not sure if needed at all, definitely would raise the skill level, but dont know if needed at all

I think you either misunderstood that post or you're unable to express yourself clearly. Or both. Overall I 'am not sure if this post was needed at all.
En Taro Violet
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
May 12 2012 11:57 GMT
#1007
The main point is that many people sold out BW for the $$$ instead for the game itself....
KareKano
Profile Joined May 2012
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 12:57:18
May 12 2012 12:56 GMT
#1008
On May 12 2012 20:45 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 20:37 KareKano wrote:
guys hey

Day9 is not a villain, if anything, he is a victim

He often claims that he misses somethings that we want to see in star2, he even made a video about it (see Day9 baseball vs frisbees on youtube). He just moved on because he wants to make his voice count in the development of Star2, as a fan. I too am an elitist, since 2006 to be honest, Savior vs Nal_rA finals are my favourite still then, fair to say that tl mods do not like me for being easily offensive towards star2 sometimes, but we gotta try to make our voice louder, and claim for the implement of these mechanics in star2, Blizzard removed them not for ignorance, but on purpose, now with 2 expansions coming, it is time for us to ask for patrol attacking, moving shots, stacking.
To say that i will play starcraft 2 is a lie, but i will try to address these issues anytime, whatever it can be read so that maybe things will just get better


I think most of what you asks actually got changed, since the units responds lot faster and smarter to your commands. I really dont think so patrol move is needed at all. As for stacking, i agree with you, moving shots, i dont know, with the units being controlled lot easier, i 'am not sure if needed at all, definitely would raise the skill level, but dont know if needed at all


hey pal, maybe you do not comprehend these features, but, once you get your hands on it, it feels awesome and rewarding.
Any pro would welcome them, and many even miss more complex micro features , but they are paid to play, not to talk, in the end it is gonna be the community the one to express its voice in order for the game to change.

I have great faith that the korean community, as watchers of the new star2 leagues that are starting in korea will complain about the lack of such features, cause they were responsible for many of the great moments of Brood War, f.e. It is not a matter of wanting star2 to be the same as BW, for the lack of better words i can only show you some videos:

This is the Patrol attack, the vultures (the units that resemble the hellions when microed via the patrol command, would attack on the move even being ground units, this feature allowed the skilled player to lay waste to a potentially infinite ammount of zerglings~zealots for example, if he had enough mechanical skills to do it of course, any amateur or casual can perform this trick too, it is not an elitist thing for high apm players, but it will reward the player that is more skilled)




this is the mutalisk micro, with unit stacking an amazing harass technique, for not requiring it do deccelerate when you order your mutalisks to attack , the skilled player was able to harass targets with great precision without having to stop, this features allowed some of the most impressive skirmishes in BW and skilled zerg players had a way to cripple the enemy's economy real bad.




they come and destroy everything we loved
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 12 2012 13:28 GMT
#1009
On May 12 2012 21:56 KareKano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 20:45 Darksoldierr wrote:
On May 12 2012 20:37 KareKano wrote:
guys hey

Day9 is not a villain, if anything, he is a victim

He often claims that he misses somethings that we want to see in star2, he even made a video about it (see Day9 baseball vs frisbees on youtube). He just moved on because he wants to make his voice count in the development of Star2, as a fan. I too am an elitist, since 2006 to be honest, Savior vs Nal_rA finals are my favourite still then, fair to say that tl mods do not like me for being easily offensive towards star2 sometimes, but we gotta try to make our voice louder, and claim for the implement of these mechanics in star2, Blizzard removed them not for ignorance, but on purpose, now with 2 expansions coming, it is time for us to ask for patrol attacking, moving shots, stacking.
To say that i will play starcraft 2 is a lie, but i will try to address these issues anytime, whatever it can be read so that maybe things will just get better


I think most of what you asks actually got changed, since the units responds lot faster and smarter to your commands. I really dont think so patrol move is needed at all. As for stacking, i agree with you, moving shots, i dont know, with the units being controlled lot easier, i 'am not sure if needed at all, definitely would raise the skill level, but dont know if needed at all


hey pal, maybe you do not comprehend these features, but, once you get your hands on it, it feels awesome and rewarding.
Any pro would welcome them, and many even miss more complex micro features , but they are paid to play, not to talk, in the end it is gonna be the community the one to express its voice in order for the game to change.

I have great faith that the korean community, as watchers of the new star2 leagues that are starting in korea will complain about the lack of such features, cause they were responsible for many of the great moments of Brood War, f.e. It is not a matter of wanting star2 to be the same as BW, for the lack of better words i can only show you some videos:

This is the Patrol attack, the vultures (the units that resemble the hellions when microed via the patrol command, would attack on the move even being ground units, this feature allowed the skilled player to lay waste to a potentially infinite ammount of zerglings~zealots for example, if he had enough mechanical skills to do it of course, any amateur or casual can perform this trick too, it is not an elitist thing for high apm players, but it will reward the player that is more skilled)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-NZk8vUFoU


this is the mutalisk micro, with unit stacking an amazing harass technique, for not requiring it do deccelerate when you order your mutalisks to attack , the skilled player was able to harass targets with great precision without having to stop, this features allowed some of the most impressive skirmishes in BW and skilled zerg players had a way to cripple the enemy's economy real bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ipBj1sO3M




I play BW myself, i know what these abilities are, i just dont feel other than stacking, they has a place at all in sc2
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
KareKano
Profile Joined May 2012
16 Posts
May 12 2012 14:09 GMT
#1010
you're free to have such feelings, but i hope you comprehend that skills like these do have great enjoyability , both for player and watcher
they come and destroy everything we loved
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 14:56:10
May 12 2012 14:53 GMT
#1011
On May 12 2012 20:57 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote:
The main point is that many people sold out BW for the $$$ instead for the game itself....


This is really what the BW community has fallen to eh?

Bitterness, anger and spite are the only things left now?

If you liked the Day9's BW stuff then either A) Rewatch it (there's a ton of it), B) Make your own or C) Support community inititives to make more BW content (Yes there are a fair number of them out there, not everyone has decided to just sit down and cry). Don't go slagging on all the people who helped create what we have now.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
May 12 2012 16:19 GMT
#1012
On May 12 2012 23:53 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 20:57 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote:
The main point is that many people sold out BW for the $$$ instead for the game itself....

This is really what the BW community has fallen to eh?

Bitterness, anger and spite are the only things left now?

No, BobTheBuilder1377 from Somalia is not our official emissary.
En Taro Violet
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
May 12 2012 16:41 GMT
#1013
We are not calling Day9 a sellout because he started making SC2 dailies instead of BW dailies. We're calling him a sellout because ever since SC2 was released he barely even mentioned BW. It's as if it dissapeared from his mind and life completely. Not even a toung in cheek mention, not even a facebook post, nothing. Would it be that hard to give a heads up on facebook about a BW final? Or just make a funny comment about protoss players getting hydra busted left and right? Or something about Flash's surgery? Just...something, anything.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him. I still follow some of his content (mostly funday monday) although purely for entertaintment. I feel like Day9 and esports are worlds apart right now.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
May 12 2012 16:51 GMT
#1014
On May 13 2012 01:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
We are not calling Day9 a sellout because he started making SC2 dailies instead of BW dailies. We're calling him a sellout because ever since SC2 was released he barely even mentioned BW. It's as if it dissapeared from his mind and life completely. Not even a toung in cheek mention, not even a facebook post, nothing. Would it be that hard to give a heads up on facebook about a BW final? Or just make a funny comment about protoss players getting hydra busted left and right? Or something about Flash's surgery? Just...something, anything.


I don't really watch SOTG anymore, but when I did he referenced BW quite a bit. He often compared SC2 units to BW units, told old BW stories or sometimes even of recent tournaments.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 17:15:34
May 12 2012 16:52 GMT
#1015
I havent watched day9 for some time but when I did, he did mention about bw quite a lot....

And of course no one should blame him for not going out of his way to reference bw lol. Which is ridiculous
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
May 12 2012 17:01 GMT
#1016
On May 13 2012 01:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
We are not calling Day9 a sellout because he started making SC2 dailies instead of BW dailies. We're calling him a sellout because ever since SC2 was released he barely even mentioned BW. It's as if it dissapeared from his mind and life completely. Not even a toung in cheek mention, not even a facebook post, nothing. Would it be that hard to give a heads up on facebook about a BW final? Or just make a funny comment about protoss players getting hydra busted left and right? Or something about Flash's surgery? Just...something, anything.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him. I still follow some of his content (mostly funday monday) although purely for entertaintment. I feel like Day9 and esports are worlds apart right now.

you really are bitter aren't you? you have no idea how much day9 has done to advance esports
Jar Jar Binks
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 12 2012 17:03 GMT
#1017
On May 13 2012 02:01 BlackGosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
We are not calling Day9 a sellout because he started making SC2 dailies instead of BW dailies. We're calling him a sellout because ever since SC2 was released he barely even mentioned BW. It's as if it dissapeared from his mind and life completely. Not even a toung in cheek mention, not even a facebook post, nothing. Would it be that hard to give a heads up on facebook about a BW final? Or just make a funny comment about protoss players getting hydra busted left and right? Or something about Flash's surgery? Just...something, anything.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him. I still follow some of his content (mostly funday monday) although purely for entertaintment. I feel like Day9 and esports are worlds apart right now.

you really are bitter aren't you? you have no idea how much day9 has done to advance esports


Correction, not esport but SC2.
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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
May 12 2012 17:04 GMT
#1018
Switch to WC3 #yolo
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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
May 12 2012 17:11 GMT
#1019
On May 13 2012 01:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
We are not calling Day9 a sellout because he started making SC2 dailies instead of BW dailies. We're calling him a sellout because ever since SC2 was released he barely even mentioned BW. It's as if it dissapeared from his mind and life completely. Not even a toung in cheek mention, not even a facebook post, nothing. Would it be that hard to give a heads up on facebook about a BW final? Or just make a funny comment about protoss players getting hydra busted left and right? Or something about Flash's surgery? Just...something, anything.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him. I still follow some of his content (mostly funday monday) although purely for entertaintment. I feel like Day9 and esports are worlds apart right now.


They talked almost a hour about OSL finals between Jangbi and Fantasy on SOTG. Whenever theres a BW topic comes up, day9 gets excited right away. You should atleast check out what you are talking about before saying something
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 12 2012 17:22 GMT
#1020
On May 13 2012 02:11 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 01:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
We are not calling Day9 a sellout because he started making SC2 dailies instead of BW dailies. We're calling him a sellout because ever since SC2 was released he barely even mentioned BW. It's as if it dissapeared from his mind and life completely. Not even a toung in cheek mention, not even a facebook post, nothing. Would it be that hard to give a heads up on facebook about a BW final? Or just make a funny comment about protoss players getting hydra busted left and right? Or something about Flash's surgery? Just...something, anything.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him. I still follow some of his content (mostly funday monday) although purely for entertaintment. I feel like Day9 and esports are worlds apart right now.


They talked almost a hour about OSL finals between Jangbi and Fantasy on SOTG. Whenever theres a BW topic comes up, day9 gets excited right away. You should atleast check out what you are talking about before saying something


I want the link to that SOTG. Would be refreshing.
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