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On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something..
Bash him for nothing? o.O
Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course).
Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On March 24 2012 21:24 ne4aJIb wrote:
I suggest this
1 set : Special Forces
2 set : BroodWar
3 set : League of Legends
4 set : StarCraft 2
5 set : CHESS
6 set : BOX
7 set : Any other game.
I'd like to suggest "speed chainmailing" for set 7 so I can finally be a starcraft pro as well.
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On March 24 2012 21:35 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:24 ne4aJIb wrote:
I suggest this
1 set : Special Forces
2 set : BroodWar
3 set : League of Legends
4 set : StarCraft 2
5 set : CHESS
6 set : BOX
7 set : Any other game. I'd like to suggest "speed chainmailing" for set 7 so I can finally be a starcraft pro as well.
Sounds enthralling.
And to the people who think it will make bw look better... Yeah, we'll probably have worse bw games and worse sc2 games, it will be fantastic -_-
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On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place.
I could swear it's because of people that snap at the most little things, like if someone says it'd be cool if BW players would transition to SC2. Just calm the fuck down, just because someone says that it doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
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The 31st? Why couldn't it be 1 day later?
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On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Bash him for nothing? o.O Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course). Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place.
We live inside a box yay? I did not bash him for nothing, claiming innocence on his behalf is naive. I'm the worst class of BW fan??? Thanks a bunch. As a guy who has put tons of time in the past into running teams, into trying to help organise events, training new players, making guides, commentating, and not to mention giving a whole load of money to the foreign scene in recent times, and not once expected anything back, I find that pretty hard to take.
When you see what efforts I have made for the scene, you can maybe see why kids like him rub me up the wrong way, very very quickly. That on top of a topic speculating that we are about to be absolutely shafted by the higher-ups, culminates in some volatile stuff on my part.
ffreak has some decent understanding of where I'm coming from here.
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Call me crazy but I like this idea and would totally watch it.
It would get foreigners to watch more Broodwar and get Koreans to watch more SC2.
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On March 24 2012 21:48 ImbaTosS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Bash him for nothing? o.O Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course). Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place. We live inside a box yay? I did not bash him for nothing, claiming innocence on his behalf is naive. I'm the worst class of BW fan??? Thanks a bunch. As a guy who has put tons of time in the past into running teams, into trying to help organise events, training new players, making guides, commentating, and not to mention giving a whole load of money to the foreign scene in recent times, and not once expected anything back, I find that pretty hard to take. When you see what efforts I have made for the scene, you can maybe see why kids like him rub me up the wrong way, very very quickly. That on top of a topic speculating that we are about to be absolutely shafted by the higher-ups, culminates in some volatile stuff on my part. ffreak has some decent understanding of where I'm coming from here.
Doesn't matter where you are or where he is coming from, you are bashing on a whole community and game, when a guy simply stated "he liked it, and what would be the most probable transition". His post was in no way offensive, everyone can have his opinion, for what you know the guy is 30 and has been as involved in other communities as you were in this one. Don't ASSUME things and tell people they are kids and have a shitty opinion and where they come from because you are angry.
Show you are yourself, an adult, and refrain from posting when you are angry, especially when that guy, on that specific post, just doesn't deserve it. (and answer your PMs.)
@ffreakk : the point is exactly to control your temper, and refrain from posting when in a bad mood. You can only complain about bad attitude when your own is not. Else you look like a fool.
On a sidenote : I am 28, have been involved in esports and tournaments for the last 12 years in various games including BW, love BW as much as you do since I've been avidly watching since 2003, am angry too, often, and that's why I allow myself to tell you to control yourself.
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On March 24 2012 22:05 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:48 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Bash him for nothing? o.O Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course). Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place. We live inside a box yay? I did not bash him for nothing, claiming innocence on his behalf is naive. I'm the worst class of BW fan??? Thanks a bunch. As a guy who has put tons of time in the past into running teams, into trying to help organise events, training new players, making guides, commentating, and not to mention giving a whole load of money to the foreign scene in recent times, and not once expected anything back, I find that pretty hard to take. When you see what efforts I have made for the scene, you can maybe see why kids like him rub me up the wrong way, very very quickly. That on top of a topic speculating that we are about to be absolutely shafted by the higher-ups, culminates in some volatile stuff on my part. ffreak has some decent understanding of where I'm coming from here. Doesn't matter where you are or where he is coming from, you are bashing on a whole community and game, when a guy simply stated "he liked it, and what would be the most probable transition". His post was in no way offensive, everyone can have his opinion, for what you know the guy is 30 and has been as involved in other communities as you were in this one. Don't ASSUME things and tell people they are kids and have a shitty opinion and where they come from because you are angry. Show you are yourself, an adult, and refrain from posting when you are angry, especially when that guy, on that specific post, just doesn't deserve it. (and answer your PMs.) @ffreakk : the point is exactly to control your temper, and refrain from posting when in a bad mood. You can only complain about bad attitude when your own is not. Else you look like a fool. On a sidenote : I am 28, have been involved in esports and tournaments for the last 12 years in various games including BW, love BW as much as you do since I've been avidly watching since 2003, am angry too, often, and that's why I allow myself to tell you to control yourself.
You are wrong, that guy was just putting a bait to troll, the bashing is totally deserve it
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On March 24 2012 22:18 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:05 Nouar wrote:On March 24 2012 21:48 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Bash him for nothing? o.O Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course). Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place. We live inside a box yay? I did not bash him for nothing, claiming innocence on his behalf is naive. I'm the worst class of BW fan??? Thanks a bunch. As a guy who has put tons of time in the past into running teams, into trying to help organise events, training new players, making guides, commentating, and not to mention giving a whole load of money to the foreign scene in recent times, and not once expected anything back, I find that pretty hard to take. When you see what efforts I have made for the scene, you can maybe see why kids like him rub me up the wrong way, very very quickly. That on top of a topic speculating that we are about to be absolutely shafted by the higher-ups, culminates in some volatile stuff on my part. ffreak has some decent understanding of where I'm coming from here. Doesn't matter where you are or where he is coming from, you are bashing on a whole community and game, when a guy simply stated "he liked it, and what would be the most probable transition". His post was in no way offensive, everyone can have his opinion, for what you know the guy is 30 and has been as involved in other communities as you were in this one. Don't ASSUME things and tell people they are kids and have a shitty opinion and where they come from because you are angry. Show you are yourself, an adult, and refrain from posting when you are angry, especially when that guy, on that specific post, just doesn't deserve it. (and answer your PMs.) @ffreakk : the point is exactly to control your temper, and refrain from posting when in a bad mood. You can only complain about bad attitude when your own is not. Else you look like a fool. On a sidenote : I am 28, have been involved in esports and tournaments for the last 12 years in various games including BW, love BW as much as you do since I've been avidly watching since 2003, am angry too, often, and that's why I allow myself to tell you to control yourself. You are wrong, that guy was just putting a bait to troll, the bashing is totally deserve it
So when some guy says "I like this, it'll let SC2 die so we can finally have 100% BW" what is that?
Get over it, it was an offhand comment, not some sort of assault.
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On March 24 2012 22:32 Redmark wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:18 palexhur wrote:On March 24 2012 22:05 Nouar wrote:On March 24 2012 21:48 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Bash him for nothing? o.O Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course). Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place. We live inside a box yay? I did not bash him for nothing, claiming innocence on his behalf is naive. I'm the worst class of BW fan??? Thanks a bunch. As a guy who has put tons of time in the past into running teams, into trying to help organise events, training new players, making guides, commentating, and not to mention giving a whole load of money to the foreign scene in recent times, and not once expected anything back, I find that pretty hard to take. When you see what efforts I have made for the scene, you can maybe see why kids like him rub me up the wrong way, very very quickly. That on top of a topic speculating that we are about to be absolutely shafted by the higher-ups, culminates in some volatile stuff on my part. ffreak has some decent understanding of where I'm coming from here. Doesn't matter where you are or where he is coming from, you are bashing on a whole community and game, when a guy simply stated "he liked it, and what would be the most probable transition". His post was in no way offensive, everyone can have his opinion, for what you know the guy is 30 and has been as involved in other communities as you were in this one. Don't ASSUME things and tell people they are kids and have a shitty opinion and where they come from because you are angry. Show you are yourself, an adult, and refrain from posting when you are angry, especially when that guy, on that specific post, just doesn't deserve it. (and answer your PMs.) @ffreakk : the point is exactly to control your temper, and refrain from posting when in a bad mood. You can only complain about bad attitude when your own is not. Else you look like a fool. On a sidenote : I am 28, have been involved in esports and tournaments for the last 12 years in various games including BW, love BW as much as you do since I've been avidly watching since 2003, am angry too, often, and that's why I allow myself to tell you to control yourself. You are wrong, that guy was just putting a bait to troll, the bashing is totally deserve it So when some guy says "I like this, it'll let SC2 die so we can finally have 100% BW" what is that? Get over it, it was an offhand comment, not some sort of assault.
Actually I dont care, this forum for the past two years have been full of "offhand comments" from SC2 kids, and yes he deserves the bashing
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On March 24 2012 22:41 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 22:32 Redmark wrote:On March 24 2012 22:18 palexhur wrote:On March 24 2012 22:05 Nouar wrote:On March 24 2012 21:48 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 21:31 ffreakk wrote:On March 24 2012 20:03 0kz wrote:On March 24 2012 19:25 ImbaTosS wrote:On March 24 2012 18:58 Lennoxito wrote:
Really good idea, i like it. After couple seasons they even could transition fully to sc2. Haha that's funny... Oh no wait, you're just a fucking tool. Your kind would never have showed up here if it weren't for that poisonous game and it's community being inclusive and accepting of dimwitted children. Standards slipped the minute the mass-market turned up. Everyone from community members, to developers, to players to major organisers suddenly realised that they don't really care about standards/loyalty as long as there's money going to come at them. Enter people like this, en mass. An unearned superiority in the hands of anyone who wants it, creates so many entitled, gleeful internet children with no idea of to whom they are actually gloating, and how much we've put into this game. Teamliquid mods do their best, but you people keep popping up. Im actually more concerned about people like you, the dude had an opinion and didn't even say much.. worst class of bw fan is the one that thinks we live inside a box yay, I understand you might love bw because I do aswell but come on.. there was no need to bash him for nothing... The whole bw + sc2 idea still sounds horrible, as I said before if it had to happen I'd rather see only sc2, if all this is true kespa might be drunk or something.. Bash him for nothing? o.O Doesn't he belong to the swarms of posters that we never saw before just suddenly pop up here and wish for a full SC2 transition? It is a sensitive time. I mean, we all control our tempers differently, but i sure as heck see where hes coming from. If i was in a fouler mood, i likely wouldn't hesitate to bash his face in as well (verbally of course). Guys like those are the exact reasons why there were ever friction between the SC2 and BW people in the first place. We live inside a box yay? I did not bash him for nothing, claiming innocence on his behalf is naive. I'm the worst class of BW fan??? Thanks a bunch. As a guy who has put tons of time in the past into running teams, into trying to help organise events, training new players, making guides, commentating, and not to mention giving a whole load of money to the foreign scene in recent times, and not once expected anything back, I find that pretty hard to take. When you see what efforts I have made for the scene, you can maybe see why kids like him rub me up the wrong way, very very quickly. That on top of a topic speculating that we are about to be absolutely shafted by the higher-ups, culminates in some volatile stuff on my part. ffreak has some decent understanding of where I'm coming from here. Doesn't matter where you are or where he is coming from, you are bashing on a whole community and game, when a guy simply stated "he liked it, and what would be the most probable transition". His post was in no way offensive, everyone can have his opinion, for what you know the guy is 30 and has been as involved in other communities as you were in this one. Don't ASSUME things and tell people they are kids and have a shitty opinion and where they come from because you are angry. Show you are yourself, an adult, and refrain from posting when you are angry, especially when that guy, on that specific post, just doesn't deserve it. (and answer your PMs.) @ffreakk : the point is exactly to control your temper, and refrain from posting when in a bad mood. You can only complain about bad attitude when your own is not. Else you look like a fool. On a sidenote : I am 28, have been involved in esports and tournaments for the last 12 years in various games including BW, love BW as much as you do since I've been avidly watching since 2003, am angry too, often, and that's why I allow myself to tell you to control yourself. You are wrong, that guy was just putting a bait to troll, the bashing is totally deserve it So when some guy says "I like this, it'll let SC2 die so we can finally have 100% BW" what is that? Get over it, it was an offhand comment, not some sort of assault. Actually I dont care, this forum for the past two years have been full of "offhand comments" from SC2 kids, and yes he deserves the bashing
It has been equally full of offhand comments from SC1 aficionados, and in this case, it looks like the mods didn't agree with you. Neither side knows self-control.
And now on topic, cause this aparté took long enough already : I just don't believe either having the same gamers play both games, neither splitting the teams into 2 group of players is a good idea. And if the SC2 games shown are shitty, which they very well might be, being played part time, it will bring anger to both SC1 fans, and SC2 fans alike (not to talk about a possible decrease in quality of sc1 games). Definitely not a good idea imo.
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On March 24 2012 21:24 ne4aJIb wrote:
7 set : Any other game.
Kart Rider has won it's spot 
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On March 24 2012 21:50 Zzoram wrote:
Call me crazy but I like this idea and would totally watch it.
It would get foreigners to watch more Broodwar and get Koreans to watch more SC2.
You know what would definitely make more Koreans watch SC2 and BW players be happy at the same time? Making SC2 a worthy successor to BW and an actually good spectator sport.
Whoever came up with this stupid idea is disrecpectful to the BW fans. We don't need to be introduced to SC2, and I doubt Koreans do. The game simply does not meet our standards and Blizzard has no intention to make it any better. They're more concerned with casuals who will quit their game after a while anyway.
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When does next SPL begins?
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On March 24 2012 21:24 ne4aJIb wrote:
7 set : Any other game.
The "PENIS" game but on TL.
How many times can you post the word "PENIS" on TL before the MODs ban you 
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On March 25 2012 00:08 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 21:50 Zzoram wrote:
Call me crazy but I like this idea and would totally watch it.
It would get foreigners to watch more Broodwar and get Koreans to watch more SC2. You know what would definitely make more Koreans watch SC2 and BW players be happy at the same time? Making SC2 a worthy successor to BW and an actually good spectator sport. Whoever came up with this stupid idea is disrecpectful to the BW fans. We don't need to be introduced to SC2, and I doubt Koreans do. The game simply does not meet our standards and Blizzard has no intention to make it any better. They're more concerned with casuals who will quit their game after a while anyway.
The game sold well, reviewed well and, as an eSport, greatly exceeded the popularity of BW everywhere outside of Korea and I would guess maybe China. I don't think it's been quite the failure you make it out to be.
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On March 25 2012 00:11 fabiano wrote:
When does next SPL begins?
May.
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On March 25 2012 00:56 cuppatea wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 00:08 maybenexttime wrote:On March 24 2012 21:50 Zzoram wrote:
Call me crazy but I like this idea and would totally watch it.
It would get foreigners to watch more Broodwar and get Koreans to watch more SC2. You know what would definitely make more Koreans watch SC2 and BW players be happy at the same time? Making SC2 a worthy successor to BW and an actually good spectator sport. Whoever came up with this stupid idea is disrecpectful to the BW fans. We don't need to be introduced to SC2, and I doubt Koreans do. The game simply does not meet our standards and Blizzard has no intention to make it any better. They're more concerned with casuals who will quit their game after a while anyway. The game sold well, reviewed well and, as an eSport, greatly exceeded the popularity of BW everywhere outside of Korea and I would guess maybe China. I don't think it's been quite the failure you make it out to be.
It's because of Over Hype and failed to deliver, and when was this a popularity contest? If I wanted to be popular, I'd rather pick LoL or something along those lines.
The fact that the Lead Designer actually stated that SC2 is developed to cater casuals is a fucking failure.
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Mmmm, I did want to see a mixed league, but I also want to have at least one active pure BW league. If BW will now only exist in the mixed league, that's very disappointing.
It will be fun for me to watch mixed league though, because I play and follow both games and enjoy them. What I don't want to come from this is for it to be a step towards eradicating Korean pro-BW as a next step. I don't want that ever, BW is unique game in most aspects still superior to SC2. Neither game is capable of replacing the other entirely, for me.
On March 24 2012 21:50 Zzoram wrote:
Call me crazy but I like this idea and would totally watch it.
It would get foreigners to watch more Broodwar and get Koreans to watch more SC2. Agreed with this. Many young foreigners still haven't discovered BW, just because they only see the surface of it. An active league that is being watched regularly by all ages is going to draw many new foreigners to BW.
Edit: Being a successful competitor in BW and SC2 simultaneously is its own challenge. The hotkeys and some very basic aspects (like: Overlords being detectors or not) are different, so when you play both games simultaneously, it requires special effort to learn not to mix up your thinking process. Of course, also the strategies are completely different, so now at the very least you have to learn 6 matchups instead of 3. It's an RTS of its own kind, playing both games. It can be very fun and if the competition is tough enough, eventually the quality of gameplay will be top world class in each game, I believe.
As I said though, it bothers me a lot if that's the only format for pro-BW; there should always be at least one BW-only league.
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