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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
January 30 2012 07:56 GMT
#361
On January 30 2012 07:19 zdfgucker wrote:
I think you guys are more stubborn than the pros themselves. In_Dove is playing SC2 and has fun because it's different. Who says people like Flash hated the game, if they really tried it? SC2 players can learn from playing BW and vice versa.

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I don't think that you realize how many people actually follow both scenes and feel offended the comments you mentioned. If you think SC2 is thrash, that's ok, it's your opinion, but there's no need to act like you are part of a hermetically closed-off community, because you aren't.


Agreed. Some people are making those of us who want to tell newcomers about BW look very bad.

The pros themselves admitted the game is much worse than BW and theyre only playing because
1. sucked too hard at BW to make a living (every single non-korean player)
2. sc2 is easy money (because the competition is waay lower)
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
BarneyEX
Profile Joined March 2009
Malaysia98 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 08:09:20
January 30 2012 08:04 GMT
#362
Well I'm pretty sure that SC2 is still a very poorly designed game after playing it for so long, I mean come on look at how the units function and how the game plays out, it almost always ends up deathball vs deathball. Even Blizzard knows their game simply took off from the so called esports craze, just look at the units that are getting a complete overhaul the next game, they simply do not have a place in the game as Blizzard practically shove them in from the single player campaign and expected people to use them.

I absolutely regretted buying the game and not waiting patiently until Blizzard patched the game to a certain playable level for my standards, after all WoL will become obselete after HotS comes out, however I don't blame Blizzard though considering I had a great time with BW(which heighten my standards) and the campaign of SC2 was very well done IMO.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 30 2012 08:06 GMT
#363
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 30 2012 08:11 GMT
#364
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
BarneyEX
Profile Joined March 2009
Malaysia98 Posts
January 30 2012 08:12 GMT
#365
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.

You speak as though we don't get random harbingers from the SC2 forum jumping into the Broodwar forums telling us our game is dead.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 30 2012 08:12 GMT
#366
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?

It was not the content of OP but individual posts done by BW affliated posters. Besides, you guys are having alot of fun in the Flash meme thread.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 30 2012 08:14 GMT
#367
The thread in sc2 shouldn't have even been posted. If SC2 people want to go understand the culture of bw, etc. They can do so. There doesn't need to be a thread telling people because its going to get troll replies and a shitstorm will happen. Whether or not they want to find out the culture of bw, I don't really care. If they want to, they can post in the bw forums and its all fine, just like how other sc2 people wanted to try out bw and made threads asking for help, that's fine. If they don't want to, then they don't. I'd be pretty pissed if someone posted a thread telling me to go check out something that I don't like (since its this thread).

This thread shouldn't even have been posted either as Hinanawi has pretty much hit the nail on the head for a lot of people in this thread when it comes to opinions. Many of us tried SC2 already, didn't like it and stopped playing. That's fine. If SC2 people want to stick to SC2 and not play BW, that's fine, no need to make a big deal about it.

Blasterion: shut the fuck up with that shit. There doesn't need to be a wall.

People just have to be more mindful of what they say and If they're truly for the betterment of "ESPORTs" then everyone can get along. Its not that hard. I swear most people who say they're all for "ESPORTs" actually mean they're for SC2. I see soo many SC2 people cuss out LoL cause it has take no skill (kinda funny) among other reasons, just because LoL gets way more viewers at major events.

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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 30 2012 08:15 GMT
#368
On January 30 2012 17:12 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?

It was not the content of OP but individual posts done by BW affliated posters. Besides, you guys are having alot of fun in the Flash meme thread.


If you feel strongly over the sc2 bashing is happening in the Flash meme thread .Why don't you take this to the mod's and put up your case to them saying the bashing has to stop .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 30 2012 08:17 GMT
#369
On January 30 2012 17:15 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 17:12 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
[quote]
When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?

It was not the content of OP but individual posts done by BW affliated posters. Besides, you guys are having alot of fun in the Flash meme thread.


If you feel strongly over the sc2 bashing is happening in the Flash meme thread .Why don't you take this to the mod's and put up your case to them saying the bashing has to stop .

Because that is Brood War territory and the most I can do is make a small mention. But it gives an idea about some of culture that runs in the community.

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[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 08:24:11
January 30 2012 08:21 GMT
#370
On January 30 2012 17:17 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 17:15 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:12 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
[quote]

They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?

It was not the content of OP but individual posts done by BW affliated posters. Besides, you guys are having alot of fun in the Flash meme thread.


If you feel strongly over the sc2 bashing is happening in the Flash meme thread .Why don't you take this to the mod's and put up your case to them saying the bashing has to stop .

Because that is Brood War territory and the most I can do is make a small mention. But it gives an idea about some of culture that runs in the community.


I will say it again take this to the mod's if you feel strongly over it . It doesn't matter whether it's broodwar territory or sc2 territory it's a damn forum .


On January 30 2012 17:21 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?


Actually i do see where hes coming from. I havn't read this thread's counterpart in the SC2 section, nor do i have any intention to click open that tab at all. But fact is (according to them) a similar thread popped up in the SC2 section first. Though it really depends on how one argue his points, cos if done well it can just be another one of those good threads when people can have healthy and logical discussion. This OP havn't managed to give a single reason as to why people should try SC2 though (like what it offers that BW doesn't, or how playing SC2 helps one's skill more than playing BW does).

For the record, i have massed 4-digits SC2 games in the past, and i still sometimes had trouble walking my Dragoon down ramps last time i played BW (i know, i suck T_T). Like it was said by many around this forums, if you wanna be good at a game, play it, rather than some other similar ones.


Go and read it than ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
January 30 2012 08:21 GMT
#371
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:41 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:31 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:27 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:25 Sawamura wrote:
Berlin wall argument again lols, since when starcraft has become a war of ideology .

When 2 groups have different ideals conflicts arise. These threads are merely those conflicting ideals presenting themselves


They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?


Actually i do see where hes coming from. I havn't read this thread's counterpart in the SC2 section, nor do i have any intention to click open that tab at all. But fact is (according to them) a similar thread popped up in the SC2 section first. Though it really depends on how one argue his points, cos if done well it can just be another one of those good threads when people can have healthy and logical discussion. This OP havn't managed to give a single reason as to why people should try SC2 though (like what it offers that BW doesn't, or how playing SC2 helps one's skill more than playing BW does).

For the record, i have massed 4-digits SC2 games in the past, and i still sometimes had trouble walking my Dragoon down ramps last time i played BW (i know, i suck T_T). Like it was said by many around this forums, if you wanna be good at a game, play it, rather than some other similar ones.
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BarneyEX
Profile Joined March 2009
Malaysia98 Posts
January 30 2012 08:25 GMT
#372
On January 30 2012 17:17 Blasterion wrote:
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On January 30 2012 17:15 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:12 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:11 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 17:06 Blasterion wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:55 Sawamura wrote:
On January 30 2012 16:44 Blasterion wrote:
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On January 30 2012 16:33 Blasterion wrote:
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They are not conflicting ideals, you are just twisting the op intention into your own propaganda. There is no way can I relate a damn computer game to a real life politics . It doesn't make sense.

I don't see how they aren't I mean obviously the BW community has expressed passionately about their ideals and their relativity to SC2. I mean simply said, the ideals of BW community and SC2 community clash, that's why we have problems with each other.


Well If you ask me I didn't sign in to this Bw community club in preaching or spreading our ideals and also what ideals are you talking about, I just watch broodwar for the joy I have in the game . Just like how I don't mind spending hours on the driving range improving my swing and my game sense .

What expectations you have for a game is a type of ideal, The Brood War community has a different kind of ideal competitive gaming in mind than SC2. That presents itself as a form of ideals. Not sure how is that so hard to understand.


To be honest I never expected much of sc2 anyway and so if I don't have any expectation of it being some kind of a broodwar clone . Will I fit into your definition of ideals ? . It's a damn computer game, I can't comprehend how any one would have strong feelings of nationalism or extreme passion over such a thing . You win or lose in a game of broodwar or sc2 the world still will go around because in the end it's just a game .

Well, each community has pride in what they like to play. And when another community makes it a part of their group culture to attack the other group out of either good or bad intentions. We have problems. Notice, the SC2 community didn't start this, It was some members of the Brood War community that over stepped their bounds to post things on the SC2 forum that was going to upset the community.


How is, opening a thread in sc2, Giving a little exposure to broodwar makes it an attack on your community ?

It was not the content of OP but individual posts done by BW affliated posters. Besides, you guys are having alot of fun in the Flash meme thread.


If you feel strongly over the sc2 bashing is happening in the Flash meme thread .Why don't you take this to the mod's and put up your case to them saying the bashing has to stop .

Because that is Brood War territory and the most I can do is make a small mention. But it gives an idea about some of culture that runs in the community.

Well its not like you can change what people think about a certain game if its crap in their eyes, I mean just look at how the people of USA view China as a country in the human rights department, we also don't care about how the SC2 community view us anyway, why should you?
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
January 30 2012 08:47 GMT
#373
I really admire Flash as a player, I just don't enjoy watching his games, he dominates in a way that is not that interesting. When Savior or Bisu dominated I'm sure it would have been much more fun to watch because most the games didn't end with a simple snap of the fingers.

Then it would not be domination.

You just strongly dislike Flash, maybe you favored player was stomped or you root vs KT.
I'm sure, KT/Flash fans don't mind Flash domination (like Barca fans never got bored from wins). So, it is just your biased feeling, it has nothing to do with scene development or how bw is spectacular at all.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
January 30 2012 09:49 GMT
#374
The fuck is wrong with you guys.
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