• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:00
CET 10:00
KST 18:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book11Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info7herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker4PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April8
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2775 users

SC2 in Proleague? - Page 9

Forum Index > BW General
1399 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 70 Next
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:07:58
October 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#161
On October 20 2011 03:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:00 villageidiot wrote:
On October 20 2011 02:59 Greentellon wrote:
What? Current teams being sacrificed on the altar? Having to change names? I am not familiar with BW/SC2/eSports in Korea, but how is that a good thing?


basically no more bw rivalry and new players influx.


What? How is the rivalry gone,if anything the rivalry has increased,you're convinced that SC2 will kill BW however that is not going to be the case, they will be running side by side now.

The epic rivalry of this year was Flash vs his wrist and the best rookies after Effort are crazy hydra and snow, which by no means are the new Jaedong or Bisu. There really isn't a great influx of many new players, Flash JD and Bisu can still play to their 30s and be the best.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
October 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#162
And it begins. It'll be a slow conversion, probably won't even take full effect until the 2nd expansion is out if I had to guess. Alas, progress none the less. I'm excited for it.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:10:06
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#163
Finally, some much needed competition to the GSL for SC2 in Korea, I'm pretty sure that the people who'll profit the most from this are the eSports fans. While it can be hard for the GSL to stay on-par with the production level of the Proleague, I'm confident that they wont let their baby die after 2ish years.

If it really happens, I wish both GSL and SC2 ProLeague GLHF, and that they can co-exist, and one wont kill the other!
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#164
wait... WHAT!??!?
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#165
Ugh...I dont know man...it might be fine.

But something about this line of thought irks me....why shouldn't the current SC2 scene be sufficient. Certainly the bw teams wouldn't be particularly happy about this (remember the uproar from the players back when they had to field 2v2 teams?)
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:08:50
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#166
Wooo so now KeSPA is finally considering some transition measures instead of flat out denying out SC2. Good.

I think it can be realistically introduced in SPL. In a Bo7, they can get set 2 or 3 to be played as a SC2 match. I'm pretty sure we won't see the "traditional" SCBW stars playing in this introductory phase, but rather, the unknown B-teamers (secretly trained in SC2 hidden from the KeSPA's watchful eye) will get a shot at the stage. I like it as set 2 or 3 because it's not the deciding set in a bo7 (set 4 is, at the earliest, the deciding set) and it'll give that fresh twist in the middle. It'll be very interesting - in all aspects, like graphics, mechanics, strategies, etc. - to see the two games being played back-to-back in the same night, both at professional levels. I also believe that with some good promotion and marketing strategy, both BW and SC2 fans will find this acceptable, at the least.

Hardware upgrades are in order. It's about time.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:09:21
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#167
I wonder if this could cause some problems to Broodwar. SC2 attracting more sponsors after this thus leaving Broodwar a bit behind? Yes, Broodwar is still a lot more popular in Korea than SC2, but still i can see it being a small concern. Which is unlikely right now though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50623 Posts
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#168
On October 20 2011 03:04 masterbreti wrote:
gah why do all good things have to come to an end. why can't good things last forever.

It's not the end don't fucking give up dude.You owe me you can pay me back for fighting for BW survival every step if the way.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Thebbeuttiffulland
Profile Joined October 2011
Brazil288 Posts
October 19 2011 18:09 GMT
#169
On October 20 2011 03:05 aimaimaim wrote:
If Kespa gets this right .. then we will have SC2 .. but what will happen if SC3 comes out?

wait 10 or more years and see
truth is out there
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
October 19 2011 18:09 GMT
#170
On October 20 2011 03:08 OpticalShot wrote:
Wooo so now KeSPA is finally considering some transition measures instead of flat out denying out SC2. Good.

You know why the denial happened in the first place, right?

We could've had SPL SC2 edition by now if it wasn't for the whole fiasco last year.
ppp
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 19 2011 18:09 GMT
#171
Sick! Hope they can figure something out that please both parts of the Starcraft community.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
aRRoSC2
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark241 Posts
October 19 2011 18:09 GMT
#172
shit just got real
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#173
On October 20 2011 03:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:00 villageidiot wrote:
On October 20 2011 02:59 Greentellon wrote:
What? Current teams being sacrificed on the altar? Having to change names? I am not familiar with BW/SC2/eSports in Korea, but how is that a good thing?


basically no more bw rivalry and new players influx.


What? How is the rivalry gone,if anything the rivalry has increased,you're convinced that SC2 will kill BW however that is not going to be the case, they will be running side by side now.

Agreed. I mean lets just see how it works out instead of jumping to conclusions like "bw is dying" etc.
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
October 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#174
On October 20 2011 03:10 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 03:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 20 2011 03:00 villageidiot wrote:
On October 20 2011 02:59 Greentellon wrote:
What? Current teams being sacrificed on the altar? Having to change names? I am not familiar with BW/SC2/eSports in Korea, but how is that a good thing?


basically no more bw rivalry and new players influx.


What? How is the rivalry gone,if anything the rivalry has increased,you're convinced that SC2 will kill BW however that is not going to be the case, they will be running side by side now.

Agreed. I mean lets just see how it works out instead of jumping to conclusions like "bw is dying" etc.


It's not dying, it's evolving!
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
October 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#175
This. Is. So. Kinky.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 18:11:49
October 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#176
People cheering for news like these only mean one thing to my eyes:

It seems like people are thinking: We need Korea to switch in order for scene to grow bigger.


Not saying that its a good/bad thing, just my 2 cents.
ppp
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10691 Posts
October 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#177
Well this could be great for SC2 and BW actually, SC2 could help keep BW alive when you think about it if they both had a pro league, I'm glad this is happening to be honest, I just worry for BW's sake, hopefully everything will work out, and also... I wouldn't be so fast to say Jaedong, Bisu and Flash wont play SC2... Jaedong , Bisu, Jangbi and Fantasy are all going to Blizzcon so.... they could very well be playing some SC2 for fun, or watching, or possibly have a BW event at Blizzcon but what are the odds of that? :-P gl hf sc2 and bw both~
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#178
I see one big problem with what is going on, in this thread, there are many many many SC2 posters who are all very happy for the arrival of SC2 in proleague, however, none of them actually consider that this is going to make the foreign SC2 scene as insignificant compared to Korea as BW has been. Once this major league is in place, basically all the SC2 foreigners will become amateurs again.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
sergedelacalle
Profile Joined March 2011
France24 Posts
October 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#179
Let show go on!
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
October 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#180
On October 20 2011 03:11 GGzerG wrote:
Well this could be great for SC2 and BW actually, SC2 could help keep BW alive when you think about it if they both had a pro league, I'm glad this is happening to be honest, I just worry for BW's sake, hopefully everything will work out, and also... I wouldn't be so fast to say Jaedong, Bisu and Flash wont play SC2... Jaedong , Bisu, Jangbi and Fantasy are all going to Blizzcon so.... they could very well be playing some SC2 for fun, or watching, or possibly have a BW event at Blizzcon but what are the odds of that? :-P gl hf sc2 and bw both~


Someone understands what's actually happening here.
ppp
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 70 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech122
SortOf 95
Livibee 58
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 924
actioN 343
Larva 272
Killer 136
PianO 109
Sharp 64
Shuttle 36
NaDa 27
sSak 26
Bale 23
[ Show more ]
Shinee 23
Soma 21
ToSsGirL 17
sorry 13
GoRush 13
Bisu 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 390
NeuroSwarm123
XcaliburYe78
League of Legends
JimRising 488
C9.Mang0308
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss768
kRYSTAL_35
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King123
Other Games
summit1g8150
Liquid`RaSZi684
KnowMe560
ceh9384
Tasteless300
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick568
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 58
CasterMuse 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra2025
• Stunt537
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h
LiuLi Cup
2h
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
16h
Replay Cast
1d
LiuLi Cup
1d 2h
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
Replay Cast
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-09
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.