On April 13 2005 21:40 draeger wrote:
I hope they enjoy paying him to look pretty on posters and group photos because I do not expect him to have much more tv time than that. Yes he is a BW icon but at the same time, there is a problem when a player who is not even ranked in the top 10 in KESPA rankings is the highest payed player in the game.

Obviously it's tough to throw endless money at Julyzerg for being the top player right now because he's still relatively new to the leaderboard, but players such as oov and nada have both proven themselves time and time again over the last couple years where most of boxer's accomplishments have been insignificant.

Yeah man, second in starleague and getting into the MBC Starleague is insignifcant.

Give me a fucking break, the man is entitled to a slump every now and then, he qualified for what? 9 consecutive starleagues? No one has come close to that (which is one reason I always defend mumyung - he qualified again, and again, and again).

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

April 13 2005 19:24 GMT

#82

On April 13 2005 15:22 tfeign wrote:

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Umm....Boxer may deserve all the $$ due to all the things he has accomplished, but Boxer DID have the easiest trip to the Ever OSL finals. Arguing against that is only rediculous. Out of all 8 players, boxer did faced 2 of the players that he would have a best shot against.

Seriously, how can anyone argue that Boxer did not have the easiest OSL trip than his competitors? Would anyone put Sync and Yellow over as being better than JulyZerg, Xellos, Nada, Reach, or Iloveoov?

28-25 is hard? JTRNSG*Y%. That's more than 50% winning odds. If Boxer was up against JulyZerg, Xellos, Nada, Reach, or Iloveoov, he would have had anywhere between less to alot less than 50% odds of winning.

Then Oov had the easiest way to the championship - he's way more than 50% winning vs Nada and Reach!

Resonate

United Kingdom8402 Posts

April 13 2005 20:29 GMT

#83

Anna Kornicova ring any bells

(probably spelled wrong...)

Small

14 Posts

April 13 2005 20:49 GMT

#84

FrozenArbeiter very gosu answer. GG

Abang_Zealot

Indonesia866 Posts

April 13 2005 20:55 GMT

#85

On April 14 2005 05:29 Resonate wrote:

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Anna Kornicova ring any bells

(probably spelled wrong...)

So Boxer is the Anna Kournikova of Starcraft??? -_-;;;
Yuck~

I don't mind Boxer being the highest paid player though. Even though he has not been a top player recently, his name still commands respect in the national and international Starcraft community. He deserves it anyway (even though inside I think Yellow probably deserves it more =P)

draeger

United States3256 Posts

April 13 2005 23:13 GMT

#86

On April 14 2005 04:22 FrozenArbiter wrote:

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Yeah man, second in starleague and getting into the MBC Starleague is insignifcant.

Second in a starleague and simply qualifying for another league isn't that great when you look at the accomplishments of, say, Nada and oov. For your average progamer, doing both of those would be awesome but when you're the highest paid player in the game, shouldn't you expect more results?

Give me a fucking break, the man is entitled to a slump every now and then, he qualified for what? 9 consecutive starleagues? No one has come close to that (which is one reason I always defend mumyung - he qualified again, and again, and again).

You are entitled to slumps, but Boxer's slump has lasted (give or take) more than two years now. Just when you think he's completely washed up, he'll come out and win a game or two, but then he'll go right back to his regular pattern of being heavily challenged by low tier pros.

When I critcize him, I am not knocking his accomplishments or his past. He is, indeed, the most successful and dominant BW player of all time. However he continually proves to me that he really doesn't have what it takes anymore. He does have small periods of great play followed by a bunch of crap that makes me wonder if he has lost hope.

If you look at, for instance, professional baseball. Albert Pujols is not being paid $15 million a year to hit .250 with 10 home runs and 50 rbis. If he ever showed those kind of numbers, the team would attempt to get rid of his contract as quickly as possible. Professional atheletes/entertainers are only worth what their abilities show that they're worth. Which is why I said, I hope SKT1 is happy paying Boxer just to see his pretty face on tv because with the way he's playing right now, I doubt he'll ever be successful in the mainstream again.

ky[Z]

China1730 Posts

April 13 2005 23:20 GMT

#87

hahahah, mega company like SKT1 does not rely on bw progamers to make $$$$, If boxer get a contract for that much, there is something in him that SKT1 needs!

The main purpose is of course promote the brand of SKT1 through the popularity of boxer.

MoltkeWarding

5195 Posts

April 14 2005 01:27 GMT

#88

Then Oov had the easiest way to the championship - he's way more than 50% winning vs Nada and Reach!

That's a very flawed way of reasoning. Oov has 50% or better odds vs just about everyone these days, whereas Boxer does not. Simply the reason being oov is more dominant than boxer these days. Did oov have it easier? Yes, but not because he got an easy draw. I don't think you can get a harder one than Nada and Reach.

Gryffindor_us

United States5606 Posts

April 14 2005 03:37 GMT

#89

Sorry but I'm with Moltke on this one. I don't feel that Boxer does not deserve this because of his fundamental character as a person but his accomplishments have been spiraling down since 2002. You could say the same for NaDa in a way at least up until recently but NaDa is fairly consistent while Boxer is not.

Let's compare Boxer with NaDa and oov.

OSL Top 3 Finishes
1st 2nd 3rd
Boxer 2 3 1
NaDa 2 0 0
oov 1 0 1

Now, Boxer is fairly impressive with his standings in regard to top 3 finishes but most of these occurred between Early 2001 and Early 2003.

Here is a timeline now. 0 means didn't make it into the top 4 and a A means absent.

Again, accomplished but only in the early to middle parts.

Then there is MBC.

Here is accomplishments by top 3.

1st 2nd 3rd
Boxer 1 0 1
NaDa 3 3 1
oov 3 0 0

So obviously here Boxer is not accomplished much at all.

Unfortunately there isn't a detailed record readily available of players in the first 3 KPGA's (I don't remember either) so I can only go off of when it became MSL with absences.

Yes, Boxer also won WCG but that was 2001 and 2002. Again, three to four years ago.

And no I don't think Boxer's path to the finals of EVER was easy but I also do not think it was utterly hard either. For certain, Yellow is not an easy opponent but when you stack his performance against Boxer over the years then it becomes apparent that Boxer beating Yellow will not be a trying task. Sync hard? Boxer 2-0ed him back during KTF. I've never thought of Sync being a "nemesis" of Boxer's but maybe I'm wrong.

So in retrospect, congratulations to Boxer and I hope he enjoys his new salary!