Last one got deleted, I'll put more effort into my post this time. http://www.staredit.net/?attachment=7957 DOWNLOAD LINK, may require an account on SEN, not sure. Does anyone here on TL play temple siege? It's a UMS DotA/AoS style map featuring 15 (? I think it's 15 at least) heroes, each with four spells fired from a hotkeyed gateway.
It's the most popular AoS map on brood war, although it's been in decline since SC2's release. However, there's normally people in op tsc looking for a game, and plenty of people still hosting and playing.
Basic gameplay is easy enough to learn, hard to master. You start by choosing a hero (or randoming). After everyone has chosen their hero, they appear at their respective temples. If your temple dies you lose; in addition, if your hero is killed 3 times you are eliminated. If everyone in your team is eliminated your team loses. The standard way to play is to hotkey your hero as 2, gateway at top left as 1, and upgrade buildings and minions as 3 4 and 5.
Most of the time you'll be moving your hero around, killing spawn. But when you need to cast a spell, you tap 1 and then, say, Z for your first spell. Gas is mana, minerals are what you buy upgrades with. You also get level points (civilians at top centre) to spend on additional HP, mana, minerals, or your next spell level.
One important feature of the map is the outpost system. There are three outposts, one in the centre of each lane. These outpost have a beacon surrounded by cannons; standing on the beacon for 30 game seconds captures the outpost, making it owned by your team. You can then teleport from your temple to any outpost beacon you own, and also get more units spawning from your outpost. The start of the game normally has people rushing to the outposts to try and capture them before the enemy team.
Once the outposts are all captured, the midgame starts. This is where you start killing heroes and spawn. Both give you experience; spawn is much easier to kill than the heroes. Oh yeah, and there's a day night cycle. Once night starts, it's gank time! Be on your guard during night time, as you're almost sure to be attacked at night by heroes looking for an easy kill.
Late game is all about big team battles, capturing or destroying outposts, and destroying the enemy base and temple.
The map is, as I said, fairly easy to pick up, but takes a lot of practice to be really good at. It's heaps of fun, and probably the best popular map on bnet at the moment. It's also great if you like micro, and you can try out different builds to make your chosen hero more powerful. I suggest you try warrior or special ops as your first hero, as they're easiest to pick up. Mutant's a lot of fun too, but a lot weaker and harder to keep alive. If you want to learn to play head to Op TSC on USEAST and ask someone to teach you the basics, or just jump into a game and learn on the spot. I believe if you want to test it out solo first, you should get in a game by yourself and move to player 3 or 6. These are the test players and if only one person is in game and in one of those slots you get infinite civilians/levels, and can play by yourself.
Looks interesting, but I seriously don't get why this wasn't done in SC2. I can understand not liking SC2 multiplayer or Acti-Blizzard or SC2's supposed effect on BW, but that has no bearing on UMS. The BW editor has shortcomings and the SC2 foreign fanbase is larger.
On August 27 2011 19:48 lbmaian wrote: Looks interesting, but I seriously don't get why this wasn't done in SC2. I can understand not liking SC2 multiplayer or Acti-Blizzard or SC2's supposed effect on BW, but that has no bearing on UMS. The BW editor has shortcomings and the SC2 foreign fanbase is larger.
This map was first made before SC2; there is a sc2 version being made over on staredit.net too.
On August 27 2011 19:54 beef42 wrote: Do replays work on this map? If so, could you post some?
Yes they do. There are some replays from the recent tournament here: http://tstourney.weebly.com/archive.html (70+ players showed up at that tournament apparently.)
There's surprisingly few videos of it on youtube...I might have to commentate some replays and put them up to show you guys, maybe it'll explain things so you can learn faster.
I play Temple Siege but unfournatly it mainly played on U.S. East server due to where the tournament channels and stuff but it really a fun game! Try it if you never played it before .
This game is so crazily addictive. I must have played it as much if not more than regular BW. It seems quite well balanced. Every unit can really own if used correctly and is a ton of fun to play as in some way. Landing an execution (final spell for assassin, pretty much 1-hits heroes without crazy health, difficult to hit with) feels amazing.
To be honest I really can't see this being much fun in sc2. A lot of the strategy was in working with the unique ways each unit moves and obscure glitches with the engine, and in SC2 there is obviously a lot less glitches and movement variety. The game was relatively simple in basic game mechanics compared to other such games, but there is so much more to learn and figure out once you have the basics down.
The only thing I never liked about this UMS is the community. It seems like a lot of the people who play it a lot think they are sooo amazing and are happy to let others know whenever they win. Of course they could be easily ignored but games often fall apart when players get in giant flame-wars and intentionally ruin the game for everyone (leaving, feeding, etc.)... It might seem like this wouldn't happen often but because of the extremely small active player-base it can occur quite often.
I dont think its the most popular. I play a TON of ums on iccub but ive never seen it. Yet there are quite a lot of games of DotX and a spanish Dota-clone
Klaca yeah, I don't know why but it doesn't seem to be played much on iccup. Mind you, when I tried to starta game called Temple Siege Iccup on iccup it told me the name was in use so there must be some people who play. Who knows, maybe it'll get more popular there ;0
On August 28 2011 04:02 xOchievax wrote: The only thing I never liked about this UMS is the community. It seems like a lot of the people who play it a lot think they are sooo amazing and are happy to let others know whenever they win. Of course they could be easily ignored but games often fall apart when players get in giant flame-wars and intentionally ruin the game for everyone (leaving, feeding, etc.)... It might seem like this wouldn't happen often but because of the extremely small active player-base it can occur quite often.
This Like an year ago, I used tons of ts, but the community made me quit. Every single game, there is at least 1 person who thinks that everyone on his team sucks, and there is always one person that thinks someone on the enemy team is hacking. I suppose the hacking paranoia makes sense, since hacking is a big issue in temple siege since there is 0 hack protection. 25% of the games has at least 1 maphacker or drop hacker in it. I really like temple siege and i think it's very unique, even if the new versions arent that great imo, but the community is terrible.
I'm still up for some games though, so if anyone wants to play, give me a pm
There is actually some maphack prevention, but I have the grim feeling some of the later versions don't actually utilize it.
And yeah, enough of the community are bad eggs that you do often get flamers and BM, but if you /ignore them during the game then it isn't normally a problem. The last few games I've played haven't really had any BM at all so maybe the community's changing as well.
This is up there in terms of popularity. This game was insanely imbalanced but it was pretty fun. After i think v1.38, the map sucked (when all these random new crap came out ex. Phantom)
the community who played it was the worst. a whole clan went around claiming people were hackers when they werent (clan ws if i remember)
The versions with phantom (1.5-.17) aren't very popular. The latest version (vG2b?) follows on from 1.4MT. It does have three new heroes (Alchemist, General, and Magician) which all seem pretty meh. General is interesting but not very original.
Love this game! It, and the people who play it however are not very noob friendly though. DL = Ban almost always. If anyone wants to get together and play just let me know. sh4w on iccup, east, and west.
http://tstourney.weebly.com/index.html there's actually a tournament being hosted in the next few weeks, you guys should head along. Don't have to have a premade team as far as I know, just ask to be a sub or ask if you can play when the time comes. Although if you did make a team and get some practice in it'd be good as well ;0
I'm pushing for the next tournament to be on iccup because of low latency and anti hacks.
I really want to play this but u get banned very often when you're trying to learn. A guy taught me about this and now I know the baiscs but still need to familiarise with the heroes skills etc...
Any good heroes for beginners? Maybe ranged ones?
edit: whoa there'r youtube videos on it, nice! oh and i read the op thx i'll try those heroes first
It is true that it can be hard to get into if you haven't played before. If the creator doesn't recognise you, he'll often ask stuff like "What unit's the archer?" and if you don't know, he'll ban you.
Yeah it depends on who the host is. If I host I try teach new players because it's important to keep new players playing and keeping the game fresh. Last night/this morning, for example, I taught a guy the basics. Ruggleton or something was his name, maybe that was you HaFniuM.
Anyway, I'm planning on making some tutorial videos to show new players the basics, and there are some gameplay videos on youtube, although not many.
On August 28 2011 04:02 xOchievax wrote: The only thing I never liked about this UMS is the community. It seems like a lot of the people who play it a lot think they are sooo amazing and are happy to let others know whenever they win. Of course they could be easily ignored but games often fall apart when players get in giant flame-wars and intentionally ruin the game for everyone (leaving, feeding, etc.)... It might seem like this wouldn't happen often but because of the extremely small active player-base it can occur quite often.
I had been looking all over TL for a decent thread about this game ever since I started playing this ums game.
Maybe it's only b/c it is the first DoTA/AoS style game I played, but I really like this game the best out of all of the ones I've played (DoTA, SOTIS, temple siege, Demigod(s?) +some other one I can't remember right now)... A couple of aspects I like about it is how you get to choose what to spend your experience points on, the day/night and increasingly tougher waves of creeps, and I also enjoy having the waypoints(capture points) and the fact that heroes on each team dictate early game strategies. I also like the limited number of heroes and how more than one person can be the same hero.
I suppose the only downside to the game is that it is limited to 6 players, but I am not sure how the game would handle a change of more players. As well, with every new update, there always seems to be some sort of glitch.
A big reason why I didn't like playing this for a time was people who would use drophacks/disconnect hacks(especially the ones where it won't let you log back onto bnet for a short bit), map hack(matters for day and night), and also multicommand.
On August 30 2011 04:42 GolemMadness wrote: It is true that it can be hard to get into if you haven't played before. If the creator doesn't recognise you, he'll often ask stuff like "What unit's the archer?" and if you don't know, he'll ban you.
I have played recently, and the host will only ask you that if you are dling; if you don't answer, or answer wrong you will be banned/kicked most likely though... kind of harsh, but it really does make it harder for the team you are on to play a decent game with a "noob"
It's better if you go to the link posted in the op and get the latest map, which, last I checked you can download without needing to make any account. If you are trying to learn, I know there are several players in the community that will teach you (free of course), and similar to other games there are guides on how to play and what to do (different 'builds'/how to spend your xp)
TLLurker, hacking is a problem in most maps, not just TS ;o but hopefully all the next tournaments will be on iccup and there's a few new hack protections that'll be in the version I'm hoping to make when the current maintainer gives it up. The original creator told me to so I'll probably become the official TS maintainer and updater.
Quality on the first, and a little bit in the second, is terrible. Can't be bothered fixing it, am very tired ;o hopefully they explain things better for everyone, so you can start playing!
Sorry for double post, I figured it was a big enough change to warrant one.
edit WHAT half of the second video is missing D: I think I'll redo at least part 2 and probably part 1 as well. Are there any tutorials on making broodwar FPVODs?
never been a big fan of temple siege but might try it out again, was more into heaven final hour (i suggest you check it out, there used to be a big group on iccup that played it almost every day, was fun flying with satan ^^).
New video, hopefully a bit better than the old Part 2. I still need to practice speaking better though ;( Anyone know any good ways to practice making videos more exciting/interesting to watch other than just making more videos?
The team at StarEdit.Net are ready to start alpha testing Temple Siege 2. To be eligible, you need to have a StarCraft II:Wings of Liberty account (North America only for now), and previous Temple Siege experience. Ideally you would be a mature individual, with a large amount of good, constructive input for the team. To sign up for the alpha test, email feedback@templesiege.com with your Battle.Net 2.0 ID and character code (e.g. Jack.123). Include the name you are generally known as on Battle.Net 1.0, and your prior experience with Temple Siege and why you think you should be a tester.
On June 04 2012 21:37 eskl2739 wrote: dont bother trying to learn this game since its crazymotherfucking intense and ppl wont even let you join the room unless you have the map already
You can download the map on the website (http://www.templesiege.com), and learn the basics from the tutorials on that same site.
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