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On July 20 2011 09:59 DarkMatter_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 08:27 banditproductions wrote:On July 20 2011 07:26 gds wrote:
Dont buy at wallmart, use the site g2play.com to buy your BW it's only 3.99€ and you receive your key in about 1 hour by email. Then you download the game on battle.net and voila.
I dont have any buisness with g2play but it's a serious and fast website, i bought many many games at their online store with no problem. Um, no offence but why? I honestly don't really trust sites like that, I'm in NA and I can't buy anything online. (That's just me though) Also, do you think getting 'decent' at BW would help me a lot with SC2? I'm thinking about switching to Zerg but I'm not sure yet. Thanks guys  So nice!  Yes, if you can get to a point where you have decent mechanics in BW, then you should have a much easier time with SC2 mechanics. However, you should play BW for BW. If your ultimate goal is to get better at SC2, then you're better off just playing SC2.
Yeah, defitnly understandable. I wanna play BW for fun, but wanna get okay at it. And, I wanna get real good at SC2, but that'll be a bit before I am.
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play campaign, get the feel or play some computer.
also, i highly recommend ICCup, people there will be your level. Once you get like C/C+, you might want to switch to the Brain or Fish servers that are more competitive.
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On July 20 2011 10:07 banditproductions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 09:59 DarkMatter_ wrote:On July 20 2011 08:27 banditproductions wrote:On July 20 2011 07:26 gds wrote:
Dont buy at wallmart, use the site g2play.com to buy your BW it's only 3.99€ and you receive your key in about 1 hour by email. Then you download the game on battle.net and voila.
I dont have any buisness with g2play but it's a serious and fast website, i bought many many games at their online store with no problem. Um, no offence but why? I honestly don't really trust sites like that, I'm in NA and I can't buy anything online. (That's just me though) Also, do you think getting 'decent' at BW would help me a lot with SC2? I'm thinking about switching to Zerg but I'm not sure yet. Thanks guys So nice! Yes, if you can get to a point where you have decent mechanics in BW, then you should have a much easier time with SC2 mechanics. However, you should play BW for BW. If your ultimate goal is to get better at SC2, then you're better off just playing SC2. Yeah, defitnly understandable. I wanna play BW for fun, but wanna get okay at it. And, I wanna get real good at SC2, but that'll be a bit before I am.
Well, it will be even longer till you're good at SC2 if you are gonna get "okay" at BW, I can tell you that. :p
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Guide to starting off BW:
1) Post on how you are new to BW and need help
2) Ignore advice to look up liquidpedia
3) Roll onto iccup and proceed to get rolled in 20 games
4) Accept advice and look up liquidpedia build orders
5) continue to get rolled because of bad macro
6) continue to get rolled because of lack of game sense
7) Read EVERYTHING related to your race on liquidpedia
8) Continue to get rolled
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I wouldn't say that playing the campaign helps you as much as it's just part of the overall experience that you should have. Playing computers is also good too, but they don't play by any orthodox strategies.
I would mostly recommend reading through liquidpedia, looking through this, watching a vew vods on nevake's channel, and learning build orders before jumping on iccup to get roflstomped the first 20 or so games.
Every bw player knows this process well. Starting the game, you will lose your first 20-30 games on iccup but don't worry about it. Losing is part of the learning process, Watch your replays and figure out where you went wrong and how you could improve.
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You are a genius! So you are suggested to watch OSL, MSL and Proleague online or by vod, and then play for fan even with computer. You should use the osl msl proleague match map, so when you watch progamer's match, you can get a better sense of the process of that match and your heart can beat with the cry of the fans present.
So, OSL MSL SPL and 1v3,4,5,6,7 with computer. have fun!
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On July 20 2011 11:46 everstarleague wrote:
You are a genius! So you are suggested to watch OSL, MSL and Proleague online or by vod, and then play for fan even with computer. You should use the osl msl proleague match map, so when you watch progamer's match, you can get a better sense of the process of that match and your heart can beat with the cry of the fans present.
So, OSL MSL SPL and 1v3,4,5,6,7 with computer. have fun!
Sounds about right. we have a bunch of masochists in this community apparently xD
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On July 20 2011 03:42 Magus wrote:
BW lets you have as many accounts as you want as soon as you buy it, and that account can play on any server against anyone with no region locking.
Most fun to play is subjective, you're just going to have play all 3 races and see which one is the most fun for you.
It makes me so sad to think how much regression there was from BW to SC2 (purely in terms of infrastructure/usability).
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To me all race are fun to play in BW. I off race alot nowdays and I feel good playing all race ^^ Its also good for you since you know how the opponent thinks and feels when they play against your main race. So to me pick the race you like most and feel comfortable.
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On July 20 2011 09:59 DarkMatter_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 08:27 banditproductions wrote:On July 20 2011 07:26 gds wrote:
Dont buy at wallmart, use the site g2play.com to buy your BW it's only 3.99€ and you receive your key in about 1 hour by email. Then you download the game on battle.net and voila.
I dont have any buisness with g2play but it's a serious and fast website, i bought many many games at their online store with no problem. Um, no offence but why? I honestly don't really trust sites like that, I'm in NA and I can't buy anything online. (That's just me though) Also, do you think getting 'decent' at BW would help me a lot with SC2? I'm thinking about switching to Zerg but I'm not sure yet. Thanks guys So nice! Yes, if you can get to a point where you have decent mechanics in BW, then you should have a much easier time with SC2 mechanics. However, you should play BW for BW. If your ultimate goal is to get better at SC2, then you're better off just playing SC2.
I'd actually say that playing bw has increased my eAPM, macro ability, and mechanics in general.
Beyond mechanics, if you want to be good at sc2, play sc2
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nice, BW still getting new players.
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My tips:
1. Bring lots of patience, the mechanics are different compared to SC2, things wouldn't be as easy.
2. It takes a lot of practice - from splitting probes to scouting properly while still getting your BO right, but since you have some SC2 background (which in no way I can assess), you can wing this.
3. Get a practice partner? So you can get the BO, timing and counters right. It's easier if you have a friend who can practice with you and review the replays so you can analyze the replay with him or whatnot.
Oh yeah, LAN motherfucker.
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a bit offtopic, just have to say that it's really amazing that there are still people out there that wanna start playing broodwar. thumbs up, and keep the hands away from sc2!
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Are people coming to BW to help their SC2 game because they think it's easier or simpler or what? I've noticed this on iCCup and while lurking here at TL, but it never makes sense to me. At first I thought people were coming to BW because SC2 wasn't what they thought it would be. The more I see it, however, the more it seems like people are trying to develop some rudimentary abilities by playing a much harder and different game.
Edit: This is also intended as a question to the OP along with people on TL with more experience than me. Basically: why do you think playing BW is better for your skills at SC2, than just playing SC2?
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Best way to learn brood war from scratch is to play fastest and BGH. Yeah, I know people say playing ICCUP is best, but that is only for if you want to get totally frustrated. In BGH, fastest, and even blood bath you will still learn the basic mechanics of BW (macro, micro, basic builds, 12 units a hotkey, ect) but in a much less stressful atmosphere. Once you've massed a few hundred games on Bnet, then you can move easily to ICCUP, but now with a solid base to build off of. You just need to remember when you are on Bnet that you should still try hard in casual games. Be the person who carries your team.
I just see no need in sending someone off of the deep end into ICCUP. Out of gold/plat they will have no real mechanics and will just be punished over and over for it.
On July 20 2011 03:42 Magus wrote:
BW lets you have as many accounts as you want as soon as you buy it, and that account can play on any server against anyone with no region locking.
Most fun to play is subjective, you're just going to have play all 3 races and see which one is the most fun for you.
I cried inside when I read this.
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you can always download multiplayer version of BW for free from iccup. and it's legal!
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On July 21 2011 19:28 freestalker wrote:
you can always download multiplayer version of BW for free from iccup. and it's legal!
Or you could pay Blizzard what they deserve.
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On July 20 2011 10:07 banditproductions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 09:59 DarkMatter_ wrote:On July 20 2011 08:27 banditproductions wrote:On July 20 2011 07:26 gds wrote:
Dont buy at wallmart, use the site g2play.com to buy your BW it's only 3.99€ and you receive your key in about 1 hour by email. Then you download the game on battle.net and voila.
I dont have any buisness with g2play but it's a serious and fast website, i bought many many games at their online store with no problem. Um, no offence but why? I honestly don't really trust sites like that, I'm in NA and I can't buy anything online. (That's just me though) Also, do you think getting 'decent' at BW would help me a lot with SC2? I'm thinking about switching to Zerg but I'm not sure yet. Thanks guys So nice! Yes, if you can get to a point where you have decent mechanics in BW, then you should have a much easier time with SC2 mechanics. However, you should play BW for BW. If your ultimate goal is to get better at SC2, then you're better off just playing SC2. Yeah, defitnly understandable. I wanna play BW for fun, but wanna get okay at it. And, I wanna get real good at SC2, but that'll be a bit before I am.
I am a SC2 Protoss player who likes to play Terran in BW. One important tip I must give you is to use your Vultures to their greatest potential. Raid expos, snipe solitary units, surround armies and drop mines before escaping, and plant mines in various places to gain map control and vision. Also, Dropships are still important, so do the harass in Brood War which annoys so many people in SC2.
Other than that, good luck!
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Just watch PRO Reps and BR ur RPQ while BBing 3RF's at the same time. Once you get your APM to the SQRL level, you can experiment around with TTrC and outEXPo but be sure to get your HANBAN timings down otherwise a 6POOL RBL will HR PPRTC and stuff.
On second thought just play the campaign and don't listen to our talk of Liquipedia or IcCup.
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Yeah pro reps are nice but you might not understand a thing they are doing, i mean every specific thing has it's connection on player's build and tech window. From 1st pylon replacement and everything. I suggest getting to know the units 1st and try alot of stuffs vs AI. Then learn some build orders.
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