So, Im not sure if this belongs here or not but...
My friends and I play 20k goon defense on iccup and I was wondering has anyone actually beaten this?
If so, how did you do it?
or how did you get far?

dl link by request:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5sb71mraiw3zm5f

trulla

Chile303 Posts

May 16 2011 03:57 GMT

it totally belongs here (maybe even BW strategy), please provide a link to download the map please.

I love hard Use map Settings maps.

mtvacuum

United States979 Posts

May 16 2011 03:58 GMT

depends on what version i think, usually it's easy until hero goons come and then you have to use cloaked ghosts with mass lockdown

flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts

May 16 2011 04:02 GMT

I've beaten this game a grand total of once >.<
I still prefer the hydras version because I found that first, but goons are aight.

Cloaked ghosts is really annoying, but I couldn't make mass tanks work. Hero goons just make mincemeat of them too quickly if you only mass tanks.

Letmelose

Korea (South)3227 Posts

May 16 2011 04:11 GMT

There are many versions of this map, all of which are quite easy once you get the hang of things. The only version I didn't manage to complete after a couple of times is the extreme version where all the airforce made the sprites bug out.

Some tips I think might be of some use.

1. Marines with stim work wonders. Get a medic, and stim marines before putting them inside the bunker before the dragoons strike. Bring them out before the next wave strikes so you can stim them once more.
2. Tanks suck balls. Don't use them unless you know what you are doing.
3. Never hesitate to pull SCVs to repair bunkers, once they are in low health, you're pretty much done.
4. Try to save up money to buy additional SCVs, they're definitely worth the cash.
5. In case of emergency, use SCVs to buy time against dragoons. Get them to build a bunker way out in front of your burning bunkers, let them get to red health before pulling them back. Use the low health SCVs to repair bunkers, but don't use them to make additional bunkers because they will get shot down fast.
6. I'm not a big fan of producing factory units, so I tend to use floating factories early on to buy me some time while I make further bunkers instead of repairing from the get go. The game really does get easier once you have your second bunker up. The game is all about cutting all the little corners you can think of in order to get your second bunker up ASAP, then you can do pretty much whatever you want.
7. Tanks suck balls. If you see someone next to you making them, tell them to stop because while the map is pretty easy if everyone knows what they're doing, it gets infinately harder if someone next to you has no idea what they're doing.

That's all I can think of. Hope this helps in some small way.

BlackMesa

Kenya338 Posts

May 16 2011 04:11 GMT

hmm i don't think i ever beat this, just many many games on east where everyone would yell at one guy for not holding.

Gummy

United States2180 Posts

May 16 2011 04:16 GMT

It's not really hard. Just check the version and ask the host what to do. Most of the time the host will give you pretty good instructions. Generally speaking, marines are more cost-effective when stimmed than ghosts, but ghosts have a longer range (read stack) and use the 4-pop bunker pop more effectively, so it's sort of a trade-off. Tanks are terrible unless you can shift-queue far-off dragoons. Otherwise, you end up destroying your own bunker and cause much rage.

GG.NoRe

Korea (South)1051 Posts

May 16 2011 04:21 GMT

HAHAHA.

I'll share with you PRO secret. Me and my friends beat it all the time.
secret there is...

SCV. at start, 1 players uses 1 scv to tour the goons/hydras/w/e around the map, while every one builds. from there, its a matter of finishing the bunkers, tanks, upgrades, nuke ghosts. barracks float to tank damage, and lots and lots of scv micro.

GL.

ReketSomething

United States6012 Posts

May 16 2011 04:23 GMT

On May 16 2011 13:21 GG.NoRe wrote:
HAHAHA.

I'll share with you PRO secret. Me and my friends beat it all the time.
secret there is...

SCV. at start, 1 players uses 1 scv to tour the goons/hydras/w/e around the map, while every one builds. from there, its a matter of finishing the bunkers, tanks, upgrades, nuke ghosts. barracks float to tank damage, and lots and lots of scv micro.

GL.

Yay stupid AI! :D

LeoTheLion

China958 Posts

May 16 2011 04:27 GMT

#10

This is true.

Another option (if you know everyone else is going to die) is to float your CC and factory to the high ground on the other side. It takes a little work--you need to distract the goons with an scv. Once you get the CC and factory to the other side, start building tanks and upgrading vehicle weapons. Siege them up just outside of goon range, and you can kill the goons when they spawn.

You won't net many kills at first, but once all the other noobs on your team get owned by the hero dragoons and zealots, the units will crowd the map and then be pushed into range of your tanks. Clean up the units (albeit slowly) and build an scv if you need to repair. It takes a while (bout an hour), but you can get the job done. Also, you can pull by building a trail of machine shops (they're free).

vectorix108

United States4633 Posts

May 16 2011 04:49 GMT

#11

This game always lags out for me >< I need to get a better computer...

Marshall_D

United States196 Posts

May 16 2011 05:42 GMT

#12

There are lots of versions of this if I can remember. The one with the minerals is the only one I enjoy playing, and I have beaten it with 2 other players. I just send 1 scv to minerals / send him back when bunker is dying. Get stim range and massive upgrades, scvs nonstop. Later I just build tons of marines and 1 or 2 science vessels and just dmatrix all my marines. Stim and kill everything.

gg

29 fps

United States5723 Posts

May 16 2011 05:49 GMT

#13

this game was difficult because it required 7 people, and there would always be one guy who didnt know what he was doing.