EPTOn April 19 2011 05:46 BloodRupture wrote:
Just hoping for the best! No real opinion other than SBG fighting!
Just hoping for the best! No real opinion other than SBG fighting!
Ur gonna need some analysis bud
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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aznagent
Hong Kong166 Posts
On April 19 2011 01:29 SkelA wrote: KHAN4EVER Main Team 4  firebathero2  Grape8  Hydra3 Ssak9 Stork (captain)1 YellOw3 Samsung Anti Team 6 Bogus1 koala6 SnowStork is solid pick no matter what considering his cost is only 9 points and he is gonna play like 90% of the Ace matches.firebathero is Awesome and learned to play tvp recently !!! He is the best ACE player right now winning like 50% of his games and he would probably be the first pick for Ace matches.Hydra is good pick too again considering hes been playing most of the Ace matches for Hite.Grape is fuckin cheap considering his form lately.I expect most of this pick. He is gonna get alot of chances to play considering JangBi is slumping hard.Ssak is preety decent and even if he is not being played i still should be getting some points just because SKT gonna win most of the games.YellOw . Well i dont even expect he will get a chance to play but again gonna rake up some points because I expect KT to win alot.As for anti well Snow has been playing kinda bad and I dont expect Bogus to win much or play at all. edit : Just switched XellOs for koala on anti  Bogus should be on a main... he's one of STX's top players i guess you forgot he was the anti-team destroyer last season | ||
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Phelix
1931 Posts
Main Team 1 Tempest3 BeSt1 Canata5 free9 Stork (captain)8 ZerO3 Samsung Anti Team 5 Horang25 Jaehoon3 SaintStork was an obvious choice for me as captain, since he is the cheapest of the TBLS. With Winners League being over, BeSt will be relegated to map sniping, which bodes well for him, as his strong PvT and PvP will take over. Canata was just a fanboy pick, after all, I am his #1 fan. ZerO is the crutch of Woongjin, success or failure depends on him even though Woongjin has a deep lineup. Tempest for KT win points. I think free will do well in this format as well; he seems to be the RoRo/Shine of this season, many will put him on anti, many will put him on main, and he will tend to screw up both sides. I hope for the anti-free fans to regret putting free on their antis. Anti-team seems simple for me, I feel that Horang2 won't be successful, Jaehoon will be Jaehoon, and Saint won't get much playing time or lose. | ||
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thehitman
1105 Posts
Main Team 8 BaBy (captain)2 Grape5 Horang23 n.Die_soO5 s23 Shine4 KT Anti Team 4 ggaemo8 Kal1 ToSsGirLBaby has been performing fantastically, I think he is the new Flash in the very near future and that's why I'm banking in him. Grape is an upcoming player and if he gets the chance I think he will explode and perform admirably. Horang2 and n.die.soo are the obvious choices, I wanted to have some sort of standard players that bring those standard points every time. N.die hasn't been performing lately, but I think he will come out in good shape this season. S2 is probably what I'm most excited about, I think he should be either my best player this season or just after baby, he has shown that he can take out anyone and is a huge potential. Shine on the other hand is a little but more established than s2, and that is why I chose him. I think he is going to be a standard players that is going to bring standard points. As for the anti-team well ggaemo has always been under performing and underachiever so obvious choice, tossgirl yeah and I think Kal will slump badly after having amazing success recently. | ||
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salito
1649 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=9&s=0&d=0 i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11. Why are the values altered? | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On April 19 2011 07:30 salito wrote: Can anyone explain why the $ value of players from last season is completely incorrect? http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=9&s=0&d=0 i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11. Why are the values altered? Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance. top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance.. | ||
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
On April 19 2011 03:04 mizU wrote: 3 ShineShine is in current form, opposite of Charlie Sheen. He is NOT winning. He's also in WeMade, so hopefully Baby and Pure and Roro steal the spotlight. (and playtime) Pure is really, really bad. =-/ No chance in hell hes gonna steal the spotlight from anyone. ffs, just look at his streak right now... They'd have to put the race rule back in for him to be sent out. | ||
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salito
1649 Posts
On April 19 2011 07:39 aimaimaim wrote: Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance. top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance.. I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW. Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On April 19 2011 07:50 salito wrote: I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW. Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league. | ||
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Hellwitch
Canada272 Posts
Main Team 9 Stork (captain)8 Stats4 ggaemo3 BeSt2 FrOzen1 Reach3 Samsung KHAN Anti Team 5 s25 Horang23 IrisMain team analysis: I believe that Stork and Stats will do great in the last rounds, since Stork is the ace of Samsung and Chintoss is the right-hand man of Flash and KT. Both of them should get a lot of play time and hopefully both of their team will keep a winning record untill the end of the season (which is also why i picked Samsung). Then, i chose GGaemo because he actually did kinda good since he joined Ace and he's also guaranteed to get a good play time. Well, it was either him or FBH, so i hope i made the right choice. BeSt is a long shot because he went 2-8 in the winners league but for only 3 points, i'm willing to take the risk. Finally, Frozen and Reach probably wont get a lot of games but at least Mantoss will bring his manliness to the team. Anti team analysis: I honestly think that s2 is overestimated since the Winners league final and should go back to being a mediocre SKT zerg. Horang2 can only win PvP and Iris... well, i wish i wouldn't have to say this but Ace probably won't win a whole lot, mostly because the rest of the teams will try their best to make the playoffs. By the way, since this is my first Fantasy PL team, feel free to give me your opinion, good or bad. Any advices are welcomed. | ||
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
Main Team: 9 Fantasy Captain4 Crazy-Hydra6 Snow3 Hyuk1 YellOw1 Reach6 Hite Anti Team 3 BeSt6 Killer 4 greatAnalysis: (1st FPL, so these are probably pretty nubbish). 9 points for #2 Power Rank vs the other TBLS. CH just got transfered. I doubt they would transfer and not play him. He's also only 4 points! Snow seems to be good. I watched his game vs JD with massive storm harass. Hyuk, i don't really know much besides being SKT's captain. Yellow and Reach are both 1 points, but they might be played if KT is winning with an advantage. If they show and lose then I gain no points, but if they win then I gain 1 point. (I might revise my team. There's no way that both of them would be played -_-). 6 points for Hite. Effort has come back. Hydra + Effort + Leta seems like a pretty strong team. BeSt isn't really good anymore. I watched killer vs Mech. Not really all that great. In proleague all you have to do is send a terran and play mech. His ZvT is 38% (!). Speaking about great, besides his Hive tech play which we don't actually see anymore, he seems to be slumping badly after MST. EDIT: I swapped Anytime for Yellow. EDIT2: Snow vs Leta, what do you guys think? | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On April 19 2011 08:21 Nazza wrote: Initial Picks Main Team: 9 Fantasy Captain4 Crazy-Hydra6 Snow3 Hyuk1 YellOw1 Reach6 Hite Anti Team 3 BeSt6 Killer 4 greatAnalysis: (1st FPL, so these are probably pretty nubbish). 9 points for #2 Power Rank vs the other TBLS. CH just got transfered. I doubt they would transfer and not play him. He's also only 4 points! Snow seems to be good. I watched his game vs JD with massive storm harass. Hyuk, i don't really know much besides being SKT's captain. Yellow and Reach are both 1 points, but they might be played if KT is winning with an advantage. If they show and lose then I gain no points, but if they win then I gain 1 point. (I might revise my team. There's no way that both of them would be played -_-). 6 points for Hite. Effort has come back. Hydra + Effort + Leta seems like a pretty strong team. BeSt isn't really good anymore. I watched killer vs Mech. Not really all that great. In proleague all you have to do is send a terran and play mech. His ZvT is 38% (!). Speaking about great, besides his Hive tech play which we don't actually see anymore, he seems to be slumping badly after MST. EDIT: I swapped Anytime for Yellow. EDIT2: Snow vs Leta, what do you guys think?effort will not play this round | ||
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salito
1649 Posts
On April 19 2011 08:07 aimaimaim wrote: They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league. You're misunderstanding me. I'll try one more time. I understand that the $ value of players changes each season based on their performance during prior seasons. Click this. http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=9&s=0&d=0 These are the stats from the end of last season. Look at the $ column. Take Flash. He is listed as $14. This is incorrect as at the start of last season, he was $13. No change should be observed as $ value stays constant for the duration of the season; it has no factor in trades as trade value is used to calculate legal trades. $ value does not fluctuate. Trade value fluctuates as the season goes on. My question is why do the $ values at the end of last season not match up with the $ values at the beginning of last season. Please completely disregard this season's $ value. The reason I want to know the correct $ values of last season is to determine which players over performed or under performed last season, and by how much. It is impossible to do this with the current incorrect $ values. Take Stats. He is listed as $8 when he was actually $4. You cannot see how much of a bargain he was last season (25-9 record) because last season's $ values are screwed up. Sorry if this was unclear. | ||
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Nazza
Australia1654 Posts
(-_-) Time to repick I guess. But tbh I wonder if that makes any difference. Hite's still a pretty strong team. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On April 19 2011 08:38 salito wrote: You're misunderstanding me. I'll try one more time. I understand that the $ value of players changes each season based on their performance during prior seasons. Click this. http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=9&s=0&d=0 These are the stats from the end of last season. Look at the $ column. Take Flash. He is listed as $14. This is incorrect as at the start of last season, he was $13. No change should be observed as $ value stays constant for the duration of the season; it has no factor in trades as trade value is used to calculate legal trades. $ value does not fluctuate. Trade value fluctuates as the season goes on. My question is why do the $ values at the end of last season not match up with the $ values at the beginning of last season. Please completely disregard this season's $ value. The reason I want to know the correct $ values of last season is to determine which players over performed or under performed last season, and by how much. It is impossible to do this with the current incorrect $ values. Take Stats. He is listed as $8 when he was actually $4. You cannot see how much of a bargain he was last season (25-9 record) because last season's $ values are screwed up. Sorry if this was unclear. You can look at trade values to see how well they performed through the season. Since the original price is not exactly empirical and it's up to the mod's discretion, there really isn't an exact formula to calculate that number. | ||
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salito
1649 Posts
On April 19 2011 08:55 bearbuddy wrote: You can look at trade values to see how well they performed through the season. Since the original price is not exactly empirical and it's up to the mod's discretion, there really isn't an exact formula to calculate that number. Looking at trade value does not help at all. If I wanted to see how well they performed through the season, I can just look at points. I want to know who over performed and who under performed. I don't know how $ value is calculated. I assumed there was a formula, and not a subjective standard. You say it is up to the discretion of a mod. Can anyone confirm this? | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
hydraENTUS Main Team 1 Anytime4 firebathero6 HiyA8 Hydra (captain)5 Jaehoon3 Midas3 Samsung Anti Team 4 M18M5 Mind4 ShuttleAnytime for 1 point? HELL YES. Super cheap and might actually see some playtime! FBH was fairly well priced, and I'm hoping he can keep the momentum from the previous round. Also probably the only ACE player to show up every match. HiyA for 6 was kinda expensive, but having none of the TBLS this round, I thought it was a good choice as he will see a lot of playtime being OZ's #2. Hydra is good. No doubt. And 8 points is decently priced. Jaehoon... hahaha... hopefully making a good choice on this one, hes either really good or really bad, and I'm hoping for the former this round Midas, I dunno. FOX isn't doing too well in general, so I don't expect them to win a lot of their games. Still I think hes a really good player in general and will get a lot of playtime as well. Samsung KHAN for 3 points is a pretty good deal, but they didn't do too well in R1 and R2... hopefully they can pull it together And anti team is just fairly decent players, no super stars. I don't think they will do very well this round. (Especially Mind who is in a slump) EDIT: Traded firebathero for ggaemo. Same priced, but I think ggaemo is more consistent and will get more playtime | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On April 19 2011 07:43 lyAsakura wrote: Honestly, the best choice for anti right now is definitely Calm. I can't really see him doing very much, and at six points, hes occupying half your anti right there. Pure is really, really bad. =-/ No chance in hell hes gonna steal the spotlight from anyone. ffs, just look at his streak right now... They'd have to put the race rule back in for him to be sent out. LOL I don't even know why I put Pure there. Must've been a brain fart. Just Baby and Roro. | ||
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salito
1649 Posts
Jaehoon really good? When was that? Also, Mind is playing quite well, 2-0ing his MSL group with a win over Stork.I don't think the proleague format warrants taking expensive players. The number of potential games isn't much higher compared to cheaper regular lineup players. I have really tried to stay away from ACE players on both my anti and main for Proleague 2010-2011. Traditionally I feel that ACE players are weak, and any time they are worth significant points are tempting anti picks. But this year I'm not so sure, with ACE as a team doing pretty damn decent. What do you guys think about ACE players? Do you treat them as any other progamers? | ||
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