Note: Please do not post your teams in this thread unless you add a lot of analysis about it. This is a thread about discussion, not signups, so there will be no spam posting of just your FPL team here. Thanks!
Lineup Appearance (non-Ace): +1 Point Game Win: +2 Points Game Win (Ace): +4 Points Game Loss: -1 Point Game Loss (Ace): -2 Points Ace Match Appearance: +2 Points 3-Game Win Streak: +1 Point 6-Game Win Streak: +2 Points 9-Game Win Streak: +3 Points Break Another Player's Streak: +1 Point Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point*
*This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match
Hite Entus: 2 Points (+2 for 4-3 Victory) SK Telecom T1: 1 Point (+1 for 3-4 Defeat) Horang2: 8 Points (+1 for lineup, +4 for ace win, -1 for loss, +2 for ace selection, +1 for team win) Bisu: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win, -2 for ace loss, +2 for ace selection) Snow: 4 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win, +1 for team win) Leta: 4 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win, +1 for team win) Movie: 4 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win, +1 for team win) Best: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win) Hyuk: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win) BByong: 1 Point (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss, +1 for team win) Food5: 1 Point (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss, +1 for team win) Fantasy: 0 Points (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss) s2: 0 Points (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss) Paralyze: 0 Points (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss) Everyone else on Hite Entus: 1 Point (+1 for team win) Everyone else on SK Telecom T1: 0 Points
Trading
Trading Rules
Each week you can trade players (swap a player for someone you don't have)
Every player has a trade value, and you can only trade for players of lower value
You will be limited to a maximum 2 Main Team and 1 Anti Team trades per week
Trades do not carry over if unused
Each time you trade, your team will be assessed a -1 point trade tax
Basic Trading Strategy
Check lineups each week! Players in the lineup are usually more valuable.
Don't make trades just for sake of making trades, as they cost you trade tax points and you may get stuck with a player you don't want
The trade price formula takes into account number of matches remaining -- so players with more matches remaining will have higher prices
You must trade for players with less value, but try to minimize the value loss. For example, if you trade someone worth 30 for someone worth 20, next week you can only trade the 20 for someone less. It's much better to trade the 30 for someone worth 29.
Groups
You will be able to create and join groups so you can compare your results with a smaller subset of the players, for example there might be a Staff Group, a First Time FPL Group, a USA Players Group, or a group created by you with just your friends.
Bisu SKT 12 Flash KT 12 Jaedong OZ 11 Fantasy SKT 9 Stork SAM 9 BaBy WEM 8 Hydra HIT 8 Kal STX 8 Sea MBC 8 Stats KT 8 ZerO WJN 8 Bogus STX 6 Calm STX 6 HiyA OZ 6 Killer OZ 6 Leta HIT 6 Light WJN 6 Neo.G_Soulkey WJN 6 RorO WEM 6 Snow HIT 6 Tyson MBC 6 Action KT 5 free WJN 5 Horang2 HIT 5 HyuN MBC 5 Jaehoon MBC 5 Mind WEM 5 Movie HIT 5 Really WJN 5 s2 SKT 5 Crazy-Hydra KT 4 firebathero ACE 4 ggaemo ACE 4 great SAM 4 hero STX 4 Jangbi SAM 4 M18M ACE 4 Shuttle STX 4 Turn SAM 4 BeSt SKT 3 Brave SAM 3 By.Sun SKT 3 Flying WJN 3 Hyuk SKT 3 Iris ACE 3 Lomo OZ 3 Midas WEM 3 n.Die_soO SKT 3 PerfectMan OZ 3 Reality SAM 3 Saint MBC 3 Shine WEM 3 sKyHigh HIT 3 Ssak SKT 3 BarrackS KT 2 FrOzen STX 2 Grape SAM 2 herO[jOin] WEM 2 Juni SAM 2 Modesty STX 2 Paralyze SKT 2 Perfective KT 2 Pure WEM 2 Alone OZ 1 Always SAM 1 Anyppi KT 1 Anytime OZ 1 Aura KT 1 BackHo OZ 1 Bbyong HIT 1 Bee OZ 1 BisAnG WJN 1 Britney WJN 1 ByuL SAM 1 Canata SKT 1 Center WJN 1 Chavi SAM 1 Classic STX 1 Cola HIT 1 Dear OZ 1 Dream.t)check MBC 1 Food5 HIT 1 Guemchi WJN 1 Gwak MBC 1 HoeJJa KT 1 hOn_sin WJN 1 hOpe SAM 1 Hwan MBC 1 hyvaa STX 1 jOsae WJN 1 KaL[KaL] OZ 1 Klaus SKT 1 koala MBC 1 Kop SAM 1 Larva SKT 1 Last STX 1 Lazy MBC 1 Lizzy KT 1 Lucifer WEM 1 Maestro SKT 1 Major WEM 1 Mercury SKT 1 mini STX 1 Minus)Black WJN 1 ModeL MBC 1 Mong HIT 1 Much ACE 1 Muzik HIT 1 Nbs HIT 1 NsP_Moon WEM 1 oDin SAM 1 Orion HIT 1 P7GAB WEM 1 Peace ACE 1 Piano WJN 1 Progamer STX 1 Pusan MBC 1 Reach KT 1 Rise SKT 1 RuBy ACE 1 Rudy WJN 1 Rush HIT 1 Saber OZ 1 Sacsri WEM 1 Sang MBC 1 Sea.Hak SKT 1 Sexy OZ 1 Sharp SAM 1 sHy OZ 1 Size STX 1 Sky OZ 1 SonGDuri HIT 1 Sonkwon OZ 1 SoO STX 1 SorrOw SAM 1 Speed OZ 1 Sse[kal] STX 1 SungEun HIT 1 Suny KT 1 Tempest KT 1 Tiny MBC 1 ToSsGirL STX 1 Trap STX 1 Where HIT 1 Woon WJN 1 wOw MBC 1 XellOs HIT 1 yCh[z-zOne] STX 1 YellOw KT 1 yeOngJae SKT 1 ZerG[kaL] MBC 1 GoRush ACE 0 Rock ACE 0
My goal for this season is getting onto the 1st page ... I remember my 1st one I managed to get there, but haven't gotten there ever since D:. I went with some odd picks this time around to hopefully make it. I'm really hoping ACE won't fail in these upcoming games; now that winner's league is over, I think they'll have a fighting chance against some of the weaker teams haha.
Edit: Whoa, I just noticed the OP posted on April 10 2011 07:37. Did I just miss it before O_o...
!!! best team imo okay so i need some deep anaylsis:
i didn't want to have a team of all decent players, but rather a few strong players and the rest of the players would be really bad
i tried to get bisu/fantasy/stats but then i realized that my team would be ACE so I had to ditch taht idea and ended with bisu stats leta + mbcgame
as for anti, i know roro is a curse
but this season is a different season and he's the worst 6 point player too hahaha it was either roro or like crazy-hydra >< as for rock and gorush, they are the only 0 point players =| really wish there were more haha and also some 7 point players or 1 point teams but there aren't so i guess this is how it worked out. I'm really taking a gamble putting MBCGame as my team though, I feel like I might switch to KT and just swap out leta for someone else although i also think leta's going to rape this FPL up and everyone with Leta is going to end up top 100
Thats some pretty deep analysis, did you miss the bold red text at the bottom of the OP? Also, why would you make Bisu your captain instead of Rock, who you physically couldn't trade anyway.
Yeah really, how much did the Chinese players increase in worth?! The only good about it is my anti-team, which has now been made up out of 1 player and an ace (take that anyway you want, it's two zergs and one of them is Gorush :p).
Good to have another FPL btw, much more doable than the volatile SC2 scene. Last year's champion in code A, total strangers winning the GSL... Well not that last one, but it could happen :p
I am a Stork/Khan fan so those two automatically got my pick. I think Khan is a good price for only 3 points because they definitely have a deep lineup (many good players, especially the rookies Grape, TurN, andReality).
As for the other choices, I picked them because they will most likely be played on match days. ggaemo is pretty much a must play for ACE as they don't have many other better players. Same applies to Leta who recently seems like he is coming back in shape by advancing in the MSL Ro16 and Midas who was cheap.
Ssak is a decent pick for his skill level. He has shown some great potential in the few of his matches he has played. He is often fielded on the T1 roster so I believe he can show something good.
Samsung Fan-ness shines through in my picks. Stork/KHAN/FBH/ggaemo were autopicks due to fanboyness, and then KHAN rookies and Baby Bear round out the roster nicely.
For anti-team...well, Mind=lolmind, and I don't think he'll live up to his 5 points. s2 will (maybe) fall back into his true role as a SKT-Zerg and fail, and Saint is...played often but not particularly winning.
On April 18 2011 16:48 Kanil wrote: I know. I buy Jaedong, then HiyA, then Leta... and I've fulfilled all my fanboy obligations, but then I only have like 3 points left.
At least Ace should do better now that WL is over...
Expensive time to be HiyA fan, 6 points for a potential R1-2 performance.
Roro on anti will completely kill your FPL chances, for real.
I don't play FPL but there's a certain MBC rookie zerg at 1 that people should consider.
Also, koala entered the army late last year, he's no longer with MBC. I heard that ModeL is no longer with the team as well but I can't confirm that yet.
Gambling with 4th/5th entry picks -- Shine, Ssak, Turn, Grape. If they get used, great. If they don't get used, I'm pretty fucked :O But I think they'll be used quite often -- especially Ssak and Grape, who are doing rather well lately. I might revamp this later on this week. Shine and Turn seems to have a slot on WeMade and Samsung too, so I think it'll work.
Firebathero and Flash are almost guaranteed to play every game, and FBH is cheap enough that he's worth a shot.
The Anti Team -- Jangbi is well, gone. I think free won't return -- but I might swap him out just because he'll be used nearly every game regardless of performance for a while. great is overrated (although January loves him so he might get used and he's out of MSL so he'll 100% focus on PL lol)
This team is far from final, though. I'll probably think of something else, but this seemed interesting enough. Expect major revisions for my final team though
Gambling with 4th/5th entry picks -- Shine, Ssak, Turn, Grape. If they get used, great. If they don't get used, I'm pretty fucked :O But I think they'll be used quite often -- especially Ssak and Grape, who are doing rather well lately. Firebathero and Flash are almost guaranteed to play every game, and FBH is cheap enough that he's worth a shot. This team is far from final, though. I'll probably think of something else, but this seemed interesting enough.
You screwed yourself with Wemade_FOX tbh lol
Btw pumped for my first fantasy PL and its not even started yet!!! Mega hyped!
I can't remember the last time I did fantasy league (also Roro on anti, he completely ruined me one season, he's bad juju keep away!), I don't even watch BW anymore but I still love some of the players. Thought I'd just give this a go anyway...
On April 18 2011 17:21 Mr.Brightside wrote: I can't remember the last time I did fantasy league (also Roro on anti, he completely ruined me one season, he's bad juju keep away!), I don't even watch BW anymore but I still love some of the players. Thought I'd just give this a go anyway...
I seriously got warned for that post? So I took the time to make a team just for old time's sake and I actually do make some sort of discussion about my team (or someone else's). I guess I won't bother with this again, maybe when Effort comes back. I just can't believe that I get warned for posting a team that I spent half an hour on that I created because I felt nostalgic about brood war and yet there are other parts of this site where people can just post a lol and have nothing happen. Look how old my account is and how many posts I have, I'm not some kind of spammer.
On April 18 2011 17:21 Mr.Brightside wrote: I can't remember the last time I did fantasy league (also Roro on anti, he completely ruined me one season, he's bad juju keep away!), I don't even watch BW anymore but I still love some of the players. Thought I'd just give this a go anyway...
I seriously got warned for that post? So I took the time to make a team just for old time's sake and I actually do make some sort of discussion about my team (or someone else's). I guess I won't bother with this again, maybe when Effort comes back. I just can't believe that I get warned for posting a team that I spent half an hour on that I created because I felt nostalgic about brood war and yet there are other parts of this site where people can just post a lol and have nothing happen. Look how old my account is and how many posts I have, I'm not some kind of spammer.
You got warned cause you didn't read the thread, and you're mad about it...lol.
This is my first FPL yay. Missed sign ups last time by like a day haha
On April 18 2011 17:21 Mr.Brightside wrote: I can't remember the last time I did fantasy league (also Roro on anti, he completely ruined me one season, he's bad juju keep away!), I don't even watch BW anymore but I still love some of the players. Thought I'd just give this a go anyway...
I seriously got warned for that post? So I took the time to make a team just for old time's sake and I actually do make some sort of discussion about my team (or someone else's). I guess I won't bother with this again, maybe when Effort comes back. I just can't believe that I get warned for posting a team that I spent half an hour on that I created because I felt nostalgic about brood war and yet there are other parts of this site where people can just post a lol and have nothing happen. Look how old my account is and how many posts I have, I'm not some kind of spammer.
You got warned cause you didn't read the thread, and you're mad about it...lol.
This is my first FPL yay. Missed sign ups last time by like a day haha
Well since I hardly watch BW anymore I am not well informed to discuss strategy so I talked about my sentiments in regards to some of the players. I did mention how I had roro on my antiteam one time and he completely ruined me. Should I add that I have always been a fan of baby and iris since I watched them back in gom's intel classic 3 and hence the reason I have put them in my team?
It's pretty hard to pick an anti-team this season. There's no immediate pick that jumps out at you (e.g. Pure for 4 points last season). It also feels like the point spread is getting wider between good players and bad players, though I haven't really looked up the numbers.
On April 18 2011 17:21 Mr.Brightside wrote: I can't remember the last time I did fantasy league (also Roro on anti, he completely ruined me one season, he's bad juju keep away!), I don't even watch BW anymore but I still love some of the players. Thought I'd just give this a go anyway...
I seriously got warned for that post? So I took the time to make a team just for old time's sake and I actually do make some sort of discussion about my team (or someone else's). I guess I won't bother with this again, maybe when Effort comes back. I just can't believe that I get warned for posting a team that I spent half an hour on that I created because I felt nostalgic about brood war and yet there are other parts of this site where people can just post a lol and have nothing happen. Look how old my account is and how many posts I have, I'm not some kind of spammer.
You got warned cause you didn't read the thread, and you're mad about it...lol.
This is my first FPL yay. Missed sign ups last time by like a day haha
Well since I hardly watch BW anymore I am not well informed to discuss strategy so I talked about my sentiments in regards to some of the players.I did mention how I had roro on my antiteam one time and he completely ruined me. Should I add that I have always been a fan of baby and iris since I watched them back in gom's intel classic 3 and hence the reason I have put them in my team?
Yup you have to add that to your post especially on the roro+fpl=fail part ..
sHy and Dear WILL be sent out and imo are steals at 1 point. Leta and Hydra are the two best of CJ and will win alot. was left with 8 points and FBH and ggaemo suddenly became better than they were on their main team.
My antiteam: Calm- i always have him on my anti Iris- he won a couple of times but i doubt he will pick up wins Turn- wtf why are you 4 points
Main Team: My main men are obviously Fantasy and Hydra in this team. After the last WL, I'm counting on Fantasy to rack up lotsnlots of wins for his team (are you kidding me? #1 Kespa ranked guy only 9 points? Autopick for main team) and same applies for Hydra. Other than that, BeSt may be in a slump, but 3 points is just ridiculous. How can you not get him from 3 points? Shine as well. He might get a LOT of wins for a 3 point player and that's what I'm looking for. Grape, I think in bo7 format, we'll see a lot of him. Especially considering the fact that he's in his elo peak, totally on fire and he's just 2 points. Face it, he's a steal for 2 points. Guemchi, we don't know a lot of this guy since he left his team at the beginning of this season, but he's back. I think he may get so many games for a 1 point player. It's ok even if he wins few of them. STX costs 4 points for that deep of a team. Why? They totally showed what's up in the first 2 rounds. Totally steal for 4 points.
Anti Team: Horang2 and Movie are 5 point each? Are you fucking kidding me? Tell me a reason why I shouldn't pick both. They can play 2 matchups combined and this is a bo7. They are just BAD. I wouldn't give them 3 points each. But, there is a guy who is actually worse than both and the name is Lomo. Horang2 and Movie can get points off Hite's team wins but Lomo is an OZ player and we know what happens to OZ in bo7 format. I even doubt that he'll get field at THAT deep of a team (sry, oz fans).
Ace players are quite expensive this time despite their abysmal collective performance in WL. The baller name of Progamer also available for selection :D
Hite and Hydra are automatic fanboy selections. Firebathero is a total baller and he's doing well recently, so I have faith he'll continue to be a badass. Grape has impressed me with his MSL showing, and he's been one of those Samsung Khan rookies that have been getting wins. I have a soft spot for perfectman, to be honest, and i think he's valued just right at 3 points. And, of course, the typhoon will roar again (haters gonna hate).
Anti-team: Jaehoon auto anti-team pick. He's NOT worth 5 points. Jangbi isn't coming back anytime soon. NOT worth 4 points. Shuttle has not been showing up much. I don't think he's worth 4 points, either.
Really should set a cap on player costs (10, imo) and then balance things around that. Prices have gotten increasingly ridiculous over the last 3 rounds of FPL. Costs no longer match the cap appropriately.
Fantasy v.s. Stork on PL team is a real dilemma. Fantasy is guaranteed to play in every SKT matches. While sometimes Khan wins without Stork, Stork is Khan's sole ACE player. However, January is infamous for trolling and sending random players for ACE. In term of performance, both can be hit and miss. Their forms fluctuate significantly each month.
On April 18 2011 21:34 dukethegold wrote: Fantasy v.s. Stork on PL team is a real dilemma. While Fantasy is guaranteed to play in every SKT matches while sometimes Khan wins without Stork, Stork is Khan's sole ACE player. However, January is infamous for trolling and sending random players for ACE. In term of performance, both can be hit and miss. Their forms fluctuate significantly each month.
Basically I'm going with 3 heavy hitters, accompanied by a handful of 1-2 point wonders. (I'm still debating Paralyze, as cool as he is, he might not see many play opportunities behind Bisu and presumably Best - who will surely try to get his place back in the lineup this round) If ACE can come any close to rediscovering their form the round before WL, they will be a steal for 0 points. I also have high hopes for sHy - 1 point for a dreamleague bonjwa on a team struggling to field protoss players... sounds straightforward enough.
Finally, Stats in my anti for a good measure of gambles, he's only good in WL :-p
edit: I've replaced Paralyze with Grape for now, we'll see if I change my mind.
Some solid shit here! CH: He has been showing some amazing play recently and since he isn't a newcomer I don't see it being a fluke. Jangbi: Quite a risky pick. I'm basically just counting on him getting his shit together. In his days of glory he could take games from everybody. This is when his slump ends! Movie: Rock solid player in general, but has recently been showing amazing games. No idea how he is only 5. Shine: I don't like the guy, but he can win. He seems to be a dark horse in every game he enters and usually comes out victorious because of his creativity when it comes to pressure builds. Snow: Pretty much the same category as Movie. Though he isn't a veteran on the scene, he always seems comfortable which leads to a high standard. Turn: Another risky pick. This youngster has sick potential, but hasn't really performed yet in my eyes. This is his time to shine! KT: 4 for KT? Deal!
Anti Baby: For my other two picks for anti to be possible I had to go with one gosu. I just played this very risky - totally counting on Baby going into a slump! M18M: He did very well on my anti team last season. Keep it up! Tossgirl: Despite being really really hot and may be able to distract her opponents with her hotness, the chances of her ever actually getting playtime is slim to none.
Is it just me, or the players are more expensive each season? I have to pick Bisu and then I'm left with 18 points.. KT for 4 points seems to be obvious choice, that leaves me with 14 points for 5 players.. uh oh. At least anti-team is easier to fill.
edit: I noticed I'm in group "forum veterans" what are the criteria for this group?
Flash as a captain, nothing to say about this really, this guy is super good and almost never lose, we all know it. Might come in a problem with having him though is that Stats is a semi Ace now for KT so he might take over alittle from Flash as the ace and just overall ie go out with Stats before Flash and then KT might win without Flash playing. Because of this I have chosen KT as a team aswell to cover that part up.
Crazy-Hydra has come up with a AK in the WL last season and I think he will be able to play alot now for KT. Even if he doesnt win his matches he will have a lot of appearences so points for that is nice.
GoRush, to be fair I just took him of the two 0 people cause I needed one of them in the team.
Dark horse of the team: LETA! He has (hopefully) come out of his year long slump with some nice kills in the WL with a tree-kill I think one match and dominating the MST and his group in the MSL going to the ro16 with a clean 2-0. I think he will deliver in the PL aswell.
Grape just won some MSL matches and I took him of them all people that had 2 points since I think he will appear some in the PL and might get a kill or two some matches.
Modesty is a guy that STX will play alot I think. He will come out for sure when there is a zerg out for the opposing team and he will play most of the STX games I think (probably even more than Clam). Anti Team:
I think that Jaehoon is a quite ok player but always struggle and never gets it done so I picked him first in my Anti Team since I think he will lose alot and dont have to many appearences, ie lose the matches he play.
Hyun is another guy from MBC that doesnt get to play so much and I dont think he is that good either so...
And last but definitely not least we have Perfectman, this might be the worst player of all the teams out there, he is so bad I cannot describe it, yuck!!
I think Jaehoon is a good buy for 5 points. He's been great PvT this season, and should be good for a couple ace match appearances since MBC likes to mix it up (this is why I will never ever pick Sea)
Showing a lot of promise. There's a lot of upside here - if Reality comes into his own this round, he'll end up with more than enough wins to justify 3 points.
A hell of a lot of upside here for only 4 points, especially after Stats' performance in WL. If Stats plays like that in R5, KT could very well go undefeated.
I think Bogus is overvalued at 6 points. Yeah, he's STX's best terran, but I'm just not seeing him winning nearly enough games to justify a 6 point cost.
A player who will never play on a bad team. I considered Xellos, but he might get some playtime, which is risky. Plus ACE might even be better than MBC now.
This one could come back to bite me in the ass. I'm banking on Light taking a little more time to adjust to his new team, and you can bet your ass I'll be trading him away if he gets off to a poor start, because he'll probably do well in the later weeks of R5.
^ Well yes, Koala isn't going to play and not for the next 1.5yrs, since he's in the army now. As for Xellos, he was discharged from ACE last month and is back with Hite.
Is there a list of all the player's value that I can copy paste? It is usually in the thread for just posting your team with no context, but I don't see that one.
Durring WL I was thinking, "man stats is going to be so overpriced..." And he is an 8, lol. Easy anti team this season.
Jaehoon, the next Roro... wait I said that last time. People need to understand the enigma, y'know?
I never really get far in FPL, I just chuck a bunch of dudes together with Sea as the captain. I feel a little more special lol. This time I'm a Veteran Forum Member. :D
Some solid shit here! CH: He has been showing some amazing play recently and since he isn't a newcomer I don't see it being a fluke. Jangbi: Quite a risky pick. I'm basically just counting on him getting his shit together. In his days of glory he could take games from everybody. This is when his slump ends! Movie: Rock solid player in general, but has recently been showing amazing games. No idea how he is only 5. Shine: I don't like the guy, but he can win. He seems to be a dark horse in every game he enters and usually comes out victorious because of his creativity when it comes to pressure builds. Snow: Pretty much the same category as Movie. Though he isn't a veteran on the scene, he always seems comfortable which leads to a high standard. Turn: Another risky pick. This youngster has sick potential, but hasn't really performed yet in my eyes. This is his time to shine! KT: 4 for KT? Deal!
Anti Baby: For my other two picks for anti to be possible I had to go with one gosu. I just played this very risky - totally counting on Baby going into a slump! M18M: He did very well on my anti team last season. Keep it up! Tossgirl: Despite being really really hot and may be able to distract her opponents with her hotness, the chances of her ever actually getting playtime is slim to none.
FIGHTING!
Dude, your team is full of anti-team superstars. KT went something like 7-11 in first 2 rounds, which were not winners leagues and CH won't add too much because of 2 reasons: He's not that good and KT isn't deep enough even with him. Movie is nowhere near being good and so are jangbi and CH. I don't think Jangbi will pick up his sheet anytime soon, at least not before the next season and CH is just fluke. I don't know what KT was thinking when they acquired him. Actually, Movie-CH-Jangbi would make an awesome anti-team if personal performance was the only factor being considered. Other than that, Shine is a steal from 3 points, TurN from 4 is a fair deal, Snow is totally fair for a 5, can be considered for a 6.
As for anti, I'd pick Kal from 8 into anti if I wanted to gamble, he's pretty inconsistent and may lose a lot more than he wins, but I wouldn't gamble on BaBy. He's a beast since the start of R4 and totally not worth gambling in my opinion. M18M and Tossgirl will totally perform for anti-teamers.
Yay, first time doing Fantasy ProLeague, and I'm in the Forum Veteran group I feel so nerdy being so proud to see that upon completion of my team XD Anyway, without further a-do...
I wanted a more consistent team, so instead of having a near-guarantee in Flash or Bisu, I went with Stork, who's still fairly solid, and Hydra, who's been kicking ass this season. Grape has shown potential, and for their cost aren't a huge gamble since Stork and Hydra tightened my budget quite a bit. RuBy is still a contender and has shown a balanced performance, and I figure he'll be seeing lots of air time being on ACE, as with FireBatHero, who's been on a bit of an up-swing lately. To finish-off the team, I went with my boy Ggaemo, who'd been performing pretty damn well in Winners League. I don't think he'll be one to slump in response to an MSL loss -- seems like a hardy guy.
The team I'm going with is MBC -- they aren't exactly full of heavy-hitters, but they're a team with a solid line-up that can put-up a fight and take games. I'm not expecting to lose any points with this choice.
Against my gut feeling, I'm going with WeMade FOX. Pure is already slumping, I don't think RorO is going to perform as everyone is hoping, and I've got a sneaking suspicion that BaBy won't be the Flash-killer people are expecting, and will go in to a surprising slump. Yet I'm telling myself this is just superstition, and if all goes well, they've got a pretty solid line, with Mind doing pretty decent lately. Here's hoping my gut is wrong.
I didn't gamble too much with my anti-team: Free has been doing pretty lack-luster lately, Great isn't consistent (or really all that great,) and I don't think JangBi is going to surge back to the top any time soon.
CH did a great job this winners league and for 4 points you pretty much have to pick him. FBH has been on fire lately, hopefully he can return some of his old glory. Expecting him to get some ace appearances on ACE. Flash is a no brainer, he may be expensive but his performance is always second to none. Should expect a lot of wins and ace appearances. Grape this dude is only 2 points and still has a pretty good record. Feel like he's defiantly worth 2 points and maybe even more. Ssak maybe get his act together and play to the level he's supposed to. This is his time to shine. YellOw is back in KT and is going to shape up to his former glory. He will also reel in all them KT win points. YellOw HWAITING! KT for 4 points? This must be Christmas. I can only imagine everyone not picking KT crying at the end of this season. (Only some KT fanboyism :p)
Jaehoon, I don't feel like he ever amazes me. He's just plain and I don't like plain. (props for pink/purple hair tho :D) Jangbi won't make a comeback anytime soon I'm sorry. had this been around 2006ish sure. I'd love to pick him. Not today sadly. Shuttle this is the only pick I'm a bit worried about. He might dominate he might not. I for one hope the latter.
Having Jaedong as captain has always worked out for a good amount of points, though holy crap, he costs a lot this round. Killer is basically guaranteed playtime, and if he can keep up his performance from WL, he can probably net a reasonable number of points. I'm conflicted on HiyA: his performance during R1 and R2 was...bad to say the least, but if he can keep up his WL performance, Oz can probably get to ACE. I may switch him out for Light or Leta, though. Any suggestions? sHy should get a reasonable amount of playtime. BackHo is an odd choice, but he catapulted me to 4th last season's R5, so he may do it again?
Don't know what to do with Anytime, though. There's no real good 1 pointers.
For the anti, I don't know how Brave will do, but I think less than Grape, Hyun...meh. s2, I'm not sure about, but it's not WL, so I'm not as worried. Also, I don't really like him. One thing's for sure: I've learned from others not to put Roro on Anti.
I made a spreadsheet of all the players with a price of 2 or higher and put it on Google Docs. Its got the team, race, and point value. If anyone wants to add the 1 pointers that would be awesome.
On April 18 2011 23:46 Rinrun wrote: Jaehoon, the next Roro... wait I said that last time. People need to understand the enigma, y'know?
I never really get far in FPL, I just chuck a bunch of dudes together with Sea as the captain. I feel a little more special lol. This time I'm a Veteran Forum Member. :D
For my main team, I tried to split the players among teams that I think will do well, other than Woongjin who's players I feel are overpriced. I also tried to get one ace in Fantasy and other middle-of-the-road players I felt were underpriced. It's a gamble but if it comes off I'll be laughing
Leta will come back. He's 3 points less than last time and is a steal. I chose him as captain over Fantasy in case I want to trade, it will be easier to trade Fantasy for someone decent than Leta due to Fanta's high cost.
Midas is my favourite player, also I think he is very underpriced. He had much more game time in proleague than winner's league and will feature regularly. I can see him being a big point/cost player.
firebathero is almost certain to get sent out every game for ACE. He kind of killed me when I picked him for winner's league fpl but he'll run into star players less often these rounds so I think he'll do better than he did in winner's league.
So everyone I actually wanted was Terran which is odd cos usually I hate Terran. I needed a zerg so I picked Crazy-Hydra, partly because he's competent but mostly because he plays for KT and will hopefully pick up a few team win points.
Lastly I needed a protoss and I wanted someone from Samsung for team points. I just hope Grape gets sent out often!
I cannot believe the price for WeMade! They are an absolute steal! Watch them make me top ten
As for my anti I really hope MBC fail or else I'm screwed!
is there a text list of all the player costs somewhere? i've always found that really useful and i wish the signup thread would go back to including it
Stork is solid pick no matter what considering his cost is only 9 points and he is gonna play like 90% of the Ace matches.
firebathero is Awesome and learned to play tvp recently !!! He is the best ACE player right now winning like 50% of his games and he would probably be the first pick for Ace matches.
Hydra is good pick too again considering hes been playing most of the Ace matches for Hite.
Grape is fuckin cheap considering his form lately.I expect most of this pick. He is gonna get alot of chances to play considering JangBi is slumping hard.
Ssak is preety decent and even if he is not being played i still should be getting some points just because SKT gonna win most of the games.
YellOw . Well i dont even expect he will get a chance to play but again gonna rake up some points because I expect KT to win alot.
As for anti well Snow has been playing kinda bad and I dont expect Bogus to win much or play at all. edit : Just switched XellOs for koala on anti
Oh crap....how can I edit my team? I clicked faster than my brain did all the work it needed and completly changed my team from what I wanted =x How can I got back and pick right this time? *-)
On April 19 2011 01:42 KobraKay wrote: Oh crap....how can I edit my team? I clicked faster than my brain did all the work it needed and completly changed my team from what I wanted =x How can I got back and pick right this time? *-)
just go back to the signups page. you can edit your team as many times as you possibly want before the start of FPL.
On April 19 2011 01:42 KobraKay wrote: Oh crap....how can I edit my team? I clicked faster than my brain did all the work it needed and completly changed my team from what I wanted =x How can I got back and pick right this time? *-)
just go back to the signups page. you can edit your team as many times as you possibly want before the start of FPL.
Well reasons...Fantasy will perform. I dont like him but he will plus SKT wins a lot so points for him. FBH learned how to play in the end of WL so probably will get a win or 2 and some ace matches! Grape and Modesty seem good picks for 2 points and Hydra and Mind will see a lot of play time and hopefully ace matches and some wins!
My anti...well Action to me is the most overrated pro gamer out there =/ tho he plays a lot so that may be a stupid decision. SkyHigh well...I cant follow PL as much as I'd like but I dont remember him winning or even playing for awhile now. And free I only remember him + Show Spoiler [MSL] +
losing in the MSL
in the last few rounds so. Wasnt he on B team?
I think the team is solid but I know its most likely not good enough to win unless some (all) of my predictions turn out be true!
Basically I'm going with 3 heavy hitters, accompanied by a handful of 1-2 point wonders. (I'm still debating Paralyze, as cool as he is, he might not see many play opportunities behind Bisu and presumably Best - who will surely try to get his place back in the lineup this round) If ACE can come any close to rediscovering their form the round before WL, they will be a steal for 0 points. I also have high hopes for sHy - 1 point for a dreamleague bonjwa on a team struggling to field protoss players... sounds straightforward enough.
Finally, Stats in my anti for a good measure of gambles, he's only good in WL :-p
edit: I've replaced Paralyze with Grape for now, we'll see if I change my mind.
Hmm Im kinda interested.. I take it its a group where you arent allowed to trade? Im up for that!! Could be fun as I see trading to be alittle of a cheat tbh ^^
On April 19 2011 01:42 KobraKay wrote: Oh crap....how can I edit my team? I clicked faster than my brain did all the work it needed and completly changed my team from what I wanted =x How can I got back and pick right this time? *-)
just go back to the signups page. you can edit your team as many times as you possibly want before the start of FPL.
Some solid shit here! CH: He has been showing some amazing play recently and since he isn't a newcomer I don't see it being a fluke. Jangbi: Quite a risky pick. I'm basically just counting on him getting his shit together. In his days of glory he could take games from everybody. This is when his slump ends! Movie: Rock solid player in general, but has recently been showing amazing games. No idea how he is only 5. Shine: I don't like the guy, but he can win. He seems to be a dark horse in every game he enters and usually comes out victorious because of his creativity when it comes to pressure builds. Snow: Pretty much the same category as Movie. Though he isn't a veteran on the scene, he always seems comfortable which leads to a high standard. Turn: Another risky pick. This youngster has sick potential, but hasn't really performed yet in my eyes. This is his time to shine! KT: 4 for KT? Deal!
Anti Baby: For my other two picks for anti to be possible I had to go with one gosu. I just played this very risky - totally counting on Baby going into a slump! M18M: He did very well on my anti team last season. Keep it up! Tossgirl: Despite being really really hot and may be able to distract her opponents with her hotness, the chances of her ever actually getting playtime is slim to none.
FIGHTING!
Dude, your team is full of anti-team superstars. KT went something like 7-11 in first 2 rounds, which were not winners leagues and CH won't add too much because of 2 reasons: He's not that good and KT isn't deep enough even with him. Movie is nowhere near being good and so are jangbi and CH. I don't think Jangbi will pick up his sheet anytime soon, at least not before the next season and CH is just fluke. I don't know what KT was thinking when they acquired him. Actually, Movie-CH-Jangbi would make an awesome anti-team if personal performance was the only factor being considered. Other than that, Shine is a steal from 3 points, TurN from 4 is a fair deal, Snow is totally fair for a 5, can be considered for a 6.
As for anti, I'd pick Kal from 8 into anti if I wanted to gamble, he's pretty inconsistent and may lose a lot more than he wins, but I wouldn't gamble on BaBy. He's a beast since the start of R4 and totally not worth gambling in my opinion. M18M and Tossgirl will totally perform for anti-teamers.
Yes, there's a good chance my team sucks ass, but if it doesn't I'll look like a genius. We'll see. Neither of us can actually tell the future.
Anti Team 4 ggaemo 5 Horang2 4 M18M Fantasy for captain seemed like a solid choice at 9 points since it's either him or Bisu who get sent out for ace match in SKT usually. As for Calm at 6 points I can seem him either doing very well or maybe slumping. Hopefully the former since he is the brain zerg >: ) While free might lose more games than Calm, I can seem him coming back this round so at 5 points that was a pretty easy choice. Chose great for 4 points because my main team is KHAN and KHAN should do well if Stork pulls through this round. Which I hope he does xD I can see Pure maybe winning more matches, so for 2 points I grabbed him. As for Rise I needed someone who wasn't on ACE like RuBy (cuz my antiteam has 2 ACE players), and I needed a 1 pointer on a decent team like SKT, so I chose him. As for my antiteam, I went for a standard 5-4-4 team. I was debating if I should go for a 6-4-3 with Snow & M18M and some 3 pointer...but I decided against it because Snow can win, and with his Reaver micro I can see him wrecking some havoc this round. Horang2 might win some PvPs, but I'll take that Chance. ggaemo and M18M might get lots of play time, but I don't seem them performing at a 4-point level consistently this round. Analysis & feedback is welcome xD
I'm going to try something a little different this time, going for lower point players instead of all the big-hitters. Previously I've had players like Jaedong, Stork, and Bisu on my team, but in my eyes, they're overpriced. Yes they perform, but at the cost of not being able to afford other solid players and having to find gems of 1-2 point players.
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Main Team 4 Crazy-Hydra With the new switch to KT, I'm almost certain he'll be KT's go to Zerg. Action... is less than exciting. And Hoejja. Lol. 5 Horang2 Horang looks like he's in pretty great shape so far. I've never really seen him slumping, and he was always kind of mediocre, but it seems he's getting polished and definitely playing more consistently than that other Protoss on hite. o.o 6 Leta (captain) I was actually considering Hiya instead of Leta, but I thought about it and Leta's definitely been more consistent than Hiya. I would never put Hiya on my anti, because sometimes he demolishes, but I feel Leta was less of a gamble. 3 Reality I was debating between Perfectman and Reality, and though Reality is probably the better performer, I feel like Perfectman would get played more. However, I'm kind of banking on Coach January to play more obscure players like Reality, rather than players like great. -_- 5 s2 What can I say, he's definitely not playing like he's a certain race from a certain team, and almost AKed KT. His ZvZ is nothing short of solid, and makes a lot of appearances. 3 Ssak Not too sure about Ssak, I might trade him for a more consistent player once he gets a few points because I can see him start to go downhill after a few rounds. Ssak seems to win games he shouldn't as well as lose games he shouldn't, but I hope he gets decent playtime before I trade him. :o 4 Hwaseung Oz... Obviously I would've like SK, but we can't have our cakes and Bisu too. I'm really just banking on the rookies to kind of take some games before Hiya, JD, and Killer can clean up. Anti Team 4 Jangbi Slumping. Hard. Even if he starts to pick up some games, obviously Stork's gonna get played a lot more. 6 Neo.G_Soulkey Soulkey is going to be the dark horse of my anti. I think Zero is going to get played a lot more often than Soulkey and I'm also hoping he does well in the MSL so that he gets screwed for PL. :D 3 Shine Shine is in current form, opposite of Charlie Sheen. He is NOT winning. He's also in WeMade, so hopefully Baby and Pure and Roro steal the spotlight. (and playtime)
XsebT, we were talkin' bout your picks in IRC. I want to shake your hand, man: that BaBy pick is some ballsy-ass shit. "Real Men Fast-Expand"? Naw, real men take the gamble of the century, and I've got a feeling it'll pay-off for you.
I changed-up my team; against my gut feeling that WeMade will flounder, I switched to them, and used the extra point to swap Ssak with FireBatHero, since he's going to get a lot of game time (and I love him.) So now I'm at a fairly good spot, feeling confident with Stork (C), Hydra, Ggaemo, FireBatHero, Grape and Ruby. My anti-team persists as Free (lol,) JangBi (lol,) and Great.
I don't have a clue on this Earth what I'm doing; this should be fun!
I based a lot of my picks off the power rank and just by looking at recent stats so we'll see what happens. It sure is weird to see how much different BW is now than when I stopped watching it.
In the old seasons I based my team around one or two really solid picks with 4 horrible picks, this time I tried just going for the middle of the road. For me the anti-team was easy, free is slumping and I've never heard of the other two.
Thanks for doing this again.
Edit - After a few days rest I changed my Anti-team to Movie, KiLLeR, and herO[jOin], then replaced Hyuk with Shine. I smell a top ten!
Fantasy: #1 KeSPA should prove worth. Has been a solid option in WL in addition to hanging around in the top point-scorers in past FPL. Also a lock to get starts.
FBH: High-flying ACE player no longer attacks only ground units. He's shown some good play but was unfortunately knocked out of the MSL after facing PvT wonder Stork twice. He'll turn to PL for more luck and should be present often.
Grape: The Grapist is a promising Khan Rookie with the potential and starting possibilities to pay off big as a 2 pointer.
Killer: The oft-ridiculed "other Zerg" in Hwaseung had shown a surprisingly decent performance in SWL. Like the other players before him (except maybe Grape), Killer has a great chance of appearing almost every game.
Leta: Ridiculous tear of late shows promise for riding momentum into PL. Loss to Ssak may be questionable but with additional potential for showing up in ACE (though competing with Hydra), Leta should be good for 6 points.
sHy: Along with fellow Oz young-gun Sky, Dream League Beast has been anything but shy while devouring opponents alive. With Oz looking for some good protoss presence, sHy can make a statement now by supplanting the NotSoPerfectMan, ailing Backho, and/or the aging veteran Anytime.
Wemade: Coming off a subpar SWL, Wemade is definitely ecstatic to see the return to the Ro7 format in which they can utilize their depth. Before SWL, Wemade showed solid results and looks to reciprocate their success and be a much better bargain than the 2 points that they're currently priced at.
Anti Team hero: vP sniper is a dangerous person to place in an anti-team but STX's depth may help in preventing hero from appearing too often.
Jaehoon: The player of such comical blunders who boasts even a fanclub has shown some flashes of anti-team trolling. However, this time, I feel that Jaehoon will not be a painful choice. One anti-team pick I am not comfortable with, especially with the departure of Light which gives Jaehoon an even greater chance of playing regularly.
Turn: His turn has seldom came as January has not particularly been keen on playing Turn often. With Turn slowly being overshadowed by the other KHAN young players Brave/Reality/Grape, Turn might just fade into obscurity while only starting 3-4 times.
Basically I'm going with 3 heavy hitters, accompanied by a handful of 1-2 point wonders. (I'm still debating Paralyze, as cool as he is, he might not see many play opportunities behind Bisu and presumably Best - who will surely try to get his place back in the lineup this round) If ACE can come any close to rediscovering their form the round before WL, they will be a steal for 0 points. I also have high hopes for sHy - 1 point for a dreamleague bonjwa on a team struggling to field protoss players... sounds straightforward enough.
Finally, Stats in my anti for a good measure of gambles, he's only good in WL :-p
edit: I've replaced Paralyze with Grape for now, we'll see if I change my mind.
Hmm Im kinda interested.. I take it its a group where you arent allowed to trade? Im up for that!! Could be fun as I see trading to be alittle of a cheat tbh ^^
How do I join?
Yes, it's exactly what you think it is. It works on an honor system, as you will be technically able to trade regardless of joining, but by joining you publicly announce you wont (And if you change your mind mid-season, you can just leave the group, the decision is not binding) I think it's a lot of fun, and for me personally it helps freeing up all the hours I'd otherwise spend contemplating trades :-p
To join, visit the FPL page's Misc tab (/All Groups), or just click here here. Then click the + sign by "no trading"
On April 19 2011 01:08 Crunchums wrote: is there a text list of all the player costs somewhere? i've always found that really useful and i wish the signup thread would go back to including it
Bisu SKT 12 Flash KT 12 Jaedong OZ 11 Fantasy SKT 9 Stork SAM 9 BaBy WEM 8 Hydra HIT 8 Kal STX 8 Sea MBC 8 Stats KT 8 ZerO WJN 8 Bogus STX 6 Calm STX 6 HiyA OZ 6 Killer OZ 6 Leta HIT 6 Light WJN 6 Neo.G_Soulkey WJN 6 RorO WEM 6 Snow HIT 6 Tyson MBC 6 Action KT 5 free WJN 5 Horang2 HIT 5 HyuN MBC 5 Jaehoon MBC 5 Mind WEM 5 Movie HIT 5 Really WJN 5 s2 SKT 5 Crazy-Hydra KT 4 firebathero ACE 4 ggaemo ACE 4 great SAM 4 hero STX 4 Jangbi SAM 4 M18M ACE 4 Shuttle STX 4 Turn SAM 4 BeSt SKT 3 Brave SAM 3 By.Sun SKT 3 Flying WJN 3 Hyuk SKT 3 Iris ACE 3 Lomo OZ 3 Midas WEM 3 n.Die_soO SKT 3 PerfectMan OZ 3 Reality SAM 3 Saint MBC 3 Shine WEM 3 sKyHigh HIT 3 Ssak SKT 3 BarrackS KT 2 FrOzen STX 2 Grape SAM 2 herO[jOin] WEM 2 Juni SAM 2 Modesty STX 2 Paralyze SKT 2 Perfective KT 2 Pure WEM 2 Alone OZ 1 Always SAM 1 Anyppi KT 1 Anytime OZ 1 Aura KT 1 BackHo OZ 1 Bbyong HIT 1 Bee OZ 1 BisAnG WJN 1 Britney WJN 1 ByuL SAM 1 Canata SKT 1 Center WJN 1 Chavi SAM 1 Classic STX 1 Cola HIT 1 Dear OZ 1 Dream.t)check MBC 1 Food5 HIT 1 Guemchi WJN 1 Gwak MBC 1 HoeJJa KT 1 hOn_sin WJN 1 hOpe SAM 1 Hwan MBC 1 hyvaa STX 1 jOsae WJN 1 KaL[KaL] OZ 1 Klaus SKT 1 koala MBC 1 Kop SAM 1 Larva SKT 1 Last STX 1 Lazy MBC 1 Lizzy KT 1 Lucifer WEM 1 Maestro SKT 1 Major WEM 1 Mercury SKT 1 mini STX 1 Minus)Black WJN 1 ModeL MBC 1 Mong HIT 1 Much ACE 1 Muzik HIT 1 Nbs HIT 1 NsP_Moon WEM 1 oDin SAM 1 Orion HIT 1 P7GAB WEM 1 Peace ACE 1 Piano WJN 1 Progamer STX 1 Pusan MBC 1 Reach KT 1 Rise SKT 1 RuBy ACE 1 Rudy WJN 1 Rush HIT 1 Saber OZ 1 Sacsri WEM 1 Sang MBC 1 Sea.Hak SKT 1 Sexy OZ 1 Sharp SAM 1 sHy OZ 1 Size STX 1 Sky OZ 1 SonGDuri HIT 1 Sonkwon OZ 1 SoO STX 1 SorrOw SAM 1 Speed OZ 1 Sse[kal] STX 1 SungEun HIT 1 Suny KT 1 Tempest KT 1 Tiny MBC 1 ToSsGirL STX 1 Trap STX 1 Where HIT 1 Woon WJN 1 wOw MBC 1 XellOs HIT 1 yCh[z-zOne] STX 1 YellOw KT 1 yeOngJae SKT 1 ZerG[kaL] MBC 1 GoRush ACE 0 Rock ACE 0
The top 5 are obviously good, but Fantasy isn't playing in playoffs so ...
The 8-pointers all look pretty solid. I'd guess Leta will be the best 6-pointer. The 5's are bleh except possibly s2. The 4's are also bleh except ACE PLAYERSSSSS. Brave, Pman, Reality, and ssak are the only 3-pointers that seem to have potential... Grape and Perfective among the 2's look pretty good. 1's are there for team points I guess, but Bbyong is awesome.
Haha, my Khan fanboyism really shows in my picks, but I think a lot of the Khan rookies are seriously undervalued... Grape and Brave have both been performing well for Khan, and somehow they're only worth 3 and 2 points. Stork of course is the cheapest of the Ace players... Bisu, Flash and Jaedong are all way too expensive, Fantasy is inconsistent, and I just... don't... like... Hydra.
Neo.G_Soulkey has been doing ridiculously well for a zerg player who was pretty much unknown this time last year, and he'll probably see more play in the PL format than in WL (even though Woongjin is a surprisingly deep team... Light, Neo.G_Soulkey, ZerO, and ? DAYYYYUMMMM)
firebathero has been performing surprisingly well in WL and even though he lost in the MSL, it was against Stork the PvT master and his former teammate, so he can't really be blamed for that. He is probably going to get played a lot more in the PL format as he has improved his PvT drastically and his other matchups aren't shabby either.
Reality is just there because... Khan? Also, I needed a terran before I found room for firebathero. I might switch him for Midas or... PerfectMan? Maybe BeSt if he stops slumping. As if that's ever going to happen.
EDIT: Definitely picked up Midas. A little diversity can't hurt, right?
Anti-Team
Action, Bogus and Tyson are all over-rated. Tyson (4-6 in last 10), Action (3-7 in last 10) and Bogus (3-7 in last 10) are all slumping pretty badly, and nothing is going to change that anytime soon. They're going to get played, and they're going to be terrible.
Kal has always been my captain. Solid, sometimes not earning the points he should be but a safe bet for always getting sent out and his winrate recently has been pretty damn good.
Hiya has been destroying winners league and I expect him to be sent out pretty much every time because besides JD and Killer, not much else to send out besides Hiya.
Movie has been performing phenomenally in winner's league racking up a ridiculous number of kills. Being valued at 5 means he's a steal, though CJ's depth may mean that he's not sent out as often. At the very least, he will accrue points for CJ winning.
Firebathero has also been a streak recently and atm he's pretty much ACE's ace. I expect to see him sent out a lot and win a lot.
Modesty was picked because I needed a zerg in my lineup and he'll pick up points from STX and occasionally be sent out maybe. I think him taking out Kal and then failing has lead to him not being sent out as often though...
Ruby is a solid 1 pointer imo. Now that ggaemo and FBH are on ACE, he isn't being sent out as much. I don't expect to pick up much for Ruby but compared to the other 1 pointers he seems like a logical choice
ANTI: I have no idea why Tyson is valued at 6. It seems logical to pick him so my other antis can be weaker. He hasn't really been producing results and while MBC will probably send him out frequently I don't expect him to win that much.
Jangbi is over the hill. Sorry Khan fans.
Shine has been doing pretty terrible lately for some odd reason. It seems like the timings he once exploited aren't working anymore. With the number of players on Fox, I don't see him being sent out or winning much.
Hoping to actually make it a bit higher this season than my usual hovering somewhere between 200-400 place. In the past iv usually been able to pick pretty good main teams, but always ends up getting shafted on the anti team.
As for the picks, Best for 3 points is simply a bargain, yes hes kinda been sucking lately, but reverting back to the normal PL format SKT will probably play him in most matches and I expect him to step up his game again anytime soon. + if everything else fails I expect to get a lot of SKT win points from him at least.
Grape is just cheap, and with the BO7 format coming back again (it will be BO7 again right?) I expect for him to get some playtime, and should probably rack up some wins + teamwins.
Leta is kinda like Best in the way that he has been sucking a lot earlier this year, but looks to be getting his shit back together, also bound to get to play every match + he might get some Ace duties. A good option to trade away if he starts winning early. He will also probably get a lot of teamwin points.
Shine is simply put a cheap gamble for 3 points, he is honestly a rather terrible player, but I expect him to play every match for Fox and hopefully they can find a way to make him ZvZ where he actually seems kinda good. + Could get some surprise Ace matches if they wanna try to snipe people ZvZ.
Shuttle I mostly just picked because I like the guy and his playstyle, expect him to get a fair amount of playtime + team win
ZerO is the guy I expect to skyrocket my points, will play every match, will probably have to share the Ace role with Light, which should probably work well since other teams cant just send out Zergs for ZerO since they can face Light also now. Just an overall rock solid player.
STX, SHOULD do fairly well in the normal PL format again, hopefully more so than KT who costs the same. Still lacking the clear Ace, but should be able to just finish of a lot of the teams within the Acematch and Kal\Calm can still pull though.
Anti team is as usual a bitch to pick...
Going for quite a gamble as usual with picking Soulkey, yes I will probably lose a lot of points here but I am just hoping he will fail + hopefully I should not get that much teampoints from him.
Jangbi has just been looking horribly for a long time now, and tho Khan might still be stubborn and keep on sending him out, I don`t expect him to win many matches. Probably one of the best anti team picks at 4 points, especially if Khan decides to use Grape\Brave instead. Should rack up some teamwins tho.
Saint is just a bad player, at a bad team and hopefully he will not get much playtime at all. Seems like a safe anti team choice, tho that usually means that they start performing over ability once their on my team
Ok, hear me out. WeMade got absolutely stomped in WL because they don't have an ace. Shine is slumping hardcore, BaBy hasn't risen back to the levels he was last season, and RorO is RorO. That said, while WL wasn't kind to them, I'm pretty sure they can work some magic this season. They're usually at their best in the later rounds, as I'm sure some of you recall from last year (lol all the RorO anti-teamers).
So BaBy's my captain, because he's the most likely player on WeMade to go on a face-melting rampage through S-Class and A-Class alike. Bogus is my second pick, because he's always been extremely consistent in PL (even if his most recent play hasn't shown it), and I'm confident he can earn back his points. Sun and Grape are, in my opinion, extremely undervalued, both have pretty strong potential to pay huge dividends. RorO is RorO - he's a workhorse, he's pretty much guaranteed somewhere between 25 and 30 points, which isn't too shabby for 6. Finally, Ssak is a bit of a gut call, but we've all seen what he's capable of. I think he might end up a sleeper pick.
As far as my anti goes, Jangbi, despite his more recent success, is still Jangbi. Then, two players off of OZ. Reasoning behind this one is pretty self-evident - now that OZ doesn't have the WL format to let Jaedong roflstomp through everybody not named Bisu or Flash, they're going to go back to the lovable, 4-1, JaedongOZ we all know and love. Killer is so overvalued at 6 it's not even funny, and Lomo is Lomo.
Stork is solid pick no matter what considering his cost is only 9 points and he is gonna play like 90% of the Ace matches.
firebathero is Awesome and learned to play tvp recently !!! He is the best ACE player right now winning like 50% of his games and he would probably be the first pick for Ace matches.
Hydra is good pick too again considering hes been playing most of the Ace matches for Hite.
Grape is fuckin cheap considering his form lately.I expect most of this pick. He is gonna get alot of chances to play considering JangBi is slumping hard.
Ssak is preety decent and even if he is not being played i still should be getting some points just because SKT gonna win most of the games.
YellOw . Well i dont even expect he will get a chance to play but again gonna rake up some points because I expect KT to win alot.
As for anti well Snow has been playing kinda bad and I dont expect Bogus to win much or play at all. edit : Just switched XellOs for koala on anti
Bogus should be on a main... he's one of STX's top players i guess you forgot he was the anti-team destroyer last season
Stork was an obvious choice for me as captain, since he is the cheapest of the TBLS. With Winners League being over, BeSt will be relegated to map sniping, which bodes well for him, as his strong PvT and PvP will take over. Canata was just a fanboy pick, after all, I am his #1 fan. ZerO is the crutch of Woongjin, success or failure depends on him even though Woongjin has a deep lineup. Tempest for KT win points.
I think free will do well in this format as well; he seems to be the RoRo/Shine of this season, many will put him on anti, many will put him on main, and he will tend to screw up both sides. I hope for the anti-free fans to regret putting free on their antis.
Anti-team seems simple for me, I feel that Horang2 won't be successful, Jaehoon will be Jaehoon, and Saint won't get much playing time or lose.
Baby has been performing fantastically, I think he is the new Flash in the very near future and that's why I'm banking in him.
Grape is an upcoming player and if he gets the chance I think he will explode and perform admirably. Horang2 and n.die.soo are the obvious choices, I wanted to have some sort of standard players that bring those standard points every time. N.die hasn't been performing lately, but I think he will come out in good shape this season.
S2 is probably what I'm most excited about, I think he should be either my best player this season or just after baby, he has shown that he can take out anyone and is a huge potential.
Shine on the other hand is a little but more established than s2, and that is why I chose him. I think he is going to be a standard players that is going to bring standard points.
As for the anti-team well ggaemo has always been under performing and underachiever so obvious choice, tossgirl yeah and I think Kal will slump badly after having amazing success recently.
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
Honestly, the best choice for anti right now is definitely Calm. I can't really see him doing very much, and at six points, hes occupying half your anti right there.
On April 19 2011 03:04 mizU wrote: 3 Shine Shine is in current form, opposite of Charlie Sheen. He is NOT winning. He's also in WeMade, so hopefully Baby and Pure and Roro steal the spotlight. (and playtime)
Pure is really, really bad. =-/ No chance in hell hes gonna steal the spotlight from anyone. ffs, just look at his streak right now... They'd have to put the race rule back in for him to be sent out.
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW.
Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.
Light. He is a better player, probably get a few ace starts against non toss teams (fox, ace, oz) should it come to it, and he should be improving as he gets used to a new house.
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW.
Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.
They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league.
Main team analysis: I believe that Stork and Stats will do great in the last rounds, since Stork is the ace of Samsung and Chintoss is the right-hand man of Flash and KT. Both of them should get a lot of play time and hopefully both of their team will keep a winning record untill the end of the season (which is also why i picked Samsung).
Then, i chose GGaemo because he actually did kinda good since he joined Ace and he's also guaranteed to get a good play time. Well, it was either him or FBH, so i hope i made the right choice.
BeSt is a long shot because he went 2-8 in the winners league but for only 3 points, i'm willing to take the risk. Finally, Frozen and Reach probably wont get a lot of games but at least Mantoss will bring his manliness to the team.
Anti team analysis: I honestly think that s2 is overestimated since the Winners league final and should go back to being a mediocre SKT zerg. Horang2 can only win PvP and Iris... well, i wish i wouldn't have to say this but Ace probably won't win a whole lot, mostly because the rest of the teams will try their best to make the playoffs.
By the way, since this is my first Fantasy PL team, feel free to give me your opinion, good or bad. Any advices are welcomed.
Analysis: (1st FPL, so these are probably pretty nubbish). 9 points for #2 Power Rank vs the other TBLS. CH just got transfered. I doubt they would transfer and not play him. He's also only 4 points! Snow seems to be good. I watched his game vs JD with massive storm harass. Hyuk, i don't really know much besides being SKT's captain. Yellow and Reach are both 1 points, but they might be played if KT is winning with an advantage. If they show and lose then I gain no points, but if they win then I gain 1 point. (I might revise my team. There's no way that both of them would be played -_-). 6 points for Hite. Effort has come back. Hydra + Effort + Leta seems like a pretty strong team.
BeSt isn't really good anymore. I watched killer vs Mech. Not really all that great. In proleague all you have to do is send a terran and play mech. His ZvT is 38% (!). Speaking about great, besides his Hive tech play which we don't actually see anymore, he seems to be slumping badly after MST.
Analysis: (1st FPL, so these are probably pretty nubbish). 9 points for #2 Power Rank vs the other TBLS. CH just got transfered. I doubt they would transfer and not play him. He's also only 4 points! Snow seems to be good. I watched his game vs JD with massive storm harass. Hyuk, i don't really know much besides being SKT's captain. Yellow and Reach are both 1 points, but they might be played if KT is winning with an advantage. If they show and lose then I gain no points, but if they win then I gain 1 point. (I might revise my team. There's no way that both of them would be played -_-). 6 points for Hite. Effort has come back. Hydra + Effort + Leta seems like a pretty strong team.
BeSt isn't really good anymore. I watched killer vs Mech. Not really all that great. In proleague all you have to do is send a terran and play mech. His ZvT is 38% (!). Speaking about great, besides his Hive tech play which we don't actually see anymore, he seems to be slumping badly after MST.
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW.
Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.
They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league.
You're misunderstanding me. I'll try one more time. I understand that the $ value of players changes each season based on their performance during prior seasons.
These are the stats from the end of last season. Look at the $ column. Take Flash. He is listed as $14. This is incorrect as at the start of last season, he was $13. No change should be observed as $ value stays constant for the duration of the season; it has no factor in trades as trade value is used to calculate legal trades. $ value does not fluctuate. Trade value fluctuates as the season goes on.
My question is why do the $ values at the end of last season not match up with the $ values at the beginning of last season. Please completely disregard this season's $ value. The reason I want to know the correct $ values of last season is to determine which players over performed or under performed last season, and by how much. It is impossible to do this with the current incorrect $ values. Take Stats. He is listed as $8 when he was actually $4. You cannot see how much of a bargain he was last season (25-9 record) because last season's $ values are screwed up.
Analysis: (1st FPL, so these are probably pretty nubbish). 9 points for #2 Power Rank vs the other TBLS. CH just got transfered. I doubt they would transfer and not play him. He's also only 4 points! Snow seems to be good. I watched his game vs JD with massive storm harass. Hyuk, i don't really know much besides being SKT's captain. Yellow and Reach are both 1 points, but they might be played if KT is winning with an advantage. If they show and lose then I gain no points, but if they win then I gain 1 point. (I might revise my team. There's no way that both of them would be played -_-). 6 points for Hite. Effort has come back. Hydra + Effort + Leta seems like a pretty strong team.
BeSt isn't really good anymore. I watched killer vs Mech. Not really all that great. In proleague all you have to do is send a terran and play mech. His ZvT is 38% (!). Speaking about great, besides his Hive tech play which we don't actually see anymore, he seems to be slumping badly after MST.
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW.
Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.
They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league.
You're misunderstanding me. I'll try one more time. I understand that the $ value of players changes each season based on their performance during prior seasons.
These are the stats from the end of last season. Look at the $ column. Take Flash. He is listed as $14. This is incorrect as at the start of last season, he was $13. No change should be observed as $ value stays constant for the duration of the season; it has no factor in trades as trade value is used to calculate legal trades. $ value does not fluctuate. Trade value fluctuates as the season goes on.
My question is why do the $ values at the end of last season not match up with the $ values at the beginning of last season. Please completely disregard this season's $ value. The reason I want to know the correct $ values of last season is to determine which players over performed or under performed last season, and by how much. It is impossible to do this with the current incorrect $ values. Take Stats. He is listed as $8 when he was actually $4. You cannot see how much of a bargain he was last season (25-9 record) because last season's $ values are screwed up.
Sorry if this was unclear.
You can look at trade values to see how well they performed through the season. Since the original price is not exactly empirical and it's up to the mod's discretion, there really isn't an exact formula to calculate that number.
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW.
Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.
They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league.
You're misunderstanding me. I'll try one more time. I understand that the $ value of players changes each season based on their performance during prior seasons.
These are the stats from the end of last season. Look at the $ column. Take Flash. He is listed as $14. This is incorrect as at the start of last season, he was $13. No change should be observed as $ value stays constant for the duration of the season; it has no factor in trades as trade value is used to calculate legal trades. $ value does not fluctuate. Trade value fluctuates as the season goes on.
My question is why do the $ values at the end of last season not match up with the $ values at the beginning of last season. Please completely disregard this season's $ value. The reason I want to know the correct $ values of last season is to determine which players over performed or under performed last season, and by how much. It is impossible to do this with the current incorrect $ values. Take Stats. He is listed as $8 when he was actually $4. You cannot see how much of a bargain he was last season (25-9 record) because last season's $ values are screwed up.
Sorry if this was unclear.
You can look at trade values to see how well they performed through the season. Since the original price is not exactly empirical and it's up to the mod's discretion, there really isn't an exact formula to calculate that number.
Looking at trade value does not help at all. If I wanted to see how well they performed through the season, I can just look at points. I want to know who over performed and who under performed.
I don't know how $ value is calculated. I assumed there was a formula, and not a subjective standard. You say it is up to the discretion of a mod. Can anyone confirm this?
Anytime for 1 point? HELL YES. Super cheap and might actually see some playtime! FBH was fairly well priced, and I'm hoping he can keep the momentum from the previous round. Also probably the only ACE player to show up every match. HiyA for 6 was kinda expensive, but having none of the TBLS this round, I thought it was a good choice as he will see a lot of playtime being OZ's #2. Hydra is good. No doubt. And 8 points is decently priced. Jaehoon... hahaha... hopefully making a good choice on this one, hes either really good or really bad, and I'm hoping for the former this round Midas, I dunno. FOX isn't doing too well in general, so I don't expect them to win a lot of their games. Still I think hes a really good player in general and will get a lot of playtime as well. Samsung KHAN for 3 points is a pretty good deal, but they didn't do too well in R1 and R2... hopefully they can pull it together
And anti team is just fairly decent players, no super stars. I don't think they will do very well this round. (Especially Mind who is in a slump)
EDIT: Traded firebathero for ggaemo. Same priced, but I think ggaemo is more consistent and will get more playtime
On April 19 2011 07:43 lyAsakura wrote: Honestly, the best choice for anti right now is definitely Calm. I can't really see him doing very much, and at six points, hes occupying half your anti right there.
On April 19 2011 03:04 mizU wrote: 3 Shine Shine is in current form, opposite of Charlie Sheen. He is NOT winning. He's also in WeMade, so hopefully Baby and Pure and Roro steal the spotlight. (and playtime)
Pure is really, really bad. =-/ No chance in hell hes gonna steal the spotlight from anyone. ffs, just look at his streak right now... They'd have to put the race rule back in for him to be sent out.
LOL I don't even know why I put Pure there. Must've been a brain fart.
Jaehoon really good? When was that? Also, Mind is playing quite well, 2-0ing his MSL group with a win over Stork.
I don't think the proleague format warrants taking expensive players. The number of potential games isn't much higher compared to cheaper regular lineup players.
I have really tried to stay away from ACE players on both my anti and main for Proleague 2010-2011. Traditionally I feel that ACE players are weak, and any time they are worth significant points are tempting anti picks. But this year I'm not so sure, with ACE as a team doing pretty damn decent.
What do you guys think about ACE players? Do you treat them as any other progamers?
i.e. Flash was 13, Bisu 13, Stats 4, Stork 7, Jaedong 11.
Why are the values altered?
Even in Fantasy proleague we need balance.
top players are usually very high during WL because they can get multi kills. And they change because players may have done greatly or poorly last season that their value corresponds with their recent performance..
I'm not talking about this season. I'm saying that the values from LAST SEASON are incorrect RIGHT NOW.
Guys, what do you think about Really vs. Light? Both are pretty good, on the same team, and of similar value.
They change their value now because of their performance last season! Thus their change! and the question you asked regarding bisu and flash, for example, was 13 and now they are 9 is because they wont be hogging kills anymore! but they are still the top of the league.
You're misunderstanding me. I'll try one more time. I understand that the $ value of players changes each season based on their performance during prior seasons.
These are the stats from the end of last season. Look at the $ column. Take Flash. He is listed as $14. This is incorrect as at the start of last season, he was $13. No change should be observed as $ value stays constant for the duration of the season; it has no factor in trades as trade value is used to calculate legal trades. $ value does not fluctuate. Trade value fluctuates as the season goes on.
My question is why do the $ values at the end of last season not match up with the $ values at the beginning of last season. Please completely disregard this season's $ value. The reason I want to know the correct $ values of last season is to determine which players over performed or under performed last season, and by how much. It is impossible to do this with the current incorrect $ values. Take Stats. He is listed as $8 when he was actually $4. You cannot see how much of a bargain he was last season (25-9 record) because last season's $ values are screwed up.
Sorry if this was unclear.
You can look at trade values to see how well they performed through the season. Since the original price is not exactly empirical and it's up to the mod's discretion, there really isn't an exact formula to calculate that number.
Looking at trade value does not help at all. If I wanted to see how well they performed through the season, I can just look at points. I want to know who over performed and who under performed.
I don't know how $ value is calculated. I assumed there was a formula, and not a subjective standard. You say it is up to the discretion of a mod. Can anyone confirm this?
The Luxury Chaos Theory Typifies how the value is assigned. The "expected score" is a projection, so it has to be subjective.
On January 20 2010 18:54 Scorch wrote: Is there a textual list of player/team prices somewhere? I like experimenting in notepad.
The prices aren't based on Round 2 of Proleague, right? I mean, Luxury costs 5...
<font size=3>Luxury Chaos Theory: Origins</font>
FPL1: Luxury Price: $6, expected to score ~30 points Luxury goes 3-6, scores 17 points, drops to $3 price
Luxury just moved to KTF, and had a lot of hype surrounding this trade. He immediately disappoints all his fantasy owners.
FPL2: Luxury Price: $3, expected to score ~15 points Luxury goes 10-6, scores 30 points, jumps to $5 price
Luxury is one of the biggest gainers and boosts several owners into the Top 10.
FPL3: Luxury Price: $5, expected to score ~25 points Luxury goes 1-8, scores 7 points, drops to $1 price
Luxury single handedly trainwrecks several hundred teams. Luxury's next season $1 price seems to low, and we want to adjust him higher, but he sucked SO much in FPL3 that we can't bring ourselves to boost him higher than $2.
FPL4: Luxury Price: $2, expected to score ~10 points Luxury goes 4-2 with many team wins and streak/breaks, scores 23 points, jumps to $5 price
Luxury Alternator Theory is born. Luxury will alternate values between good and bad every round. Unlucky owners have chosen wrong FOUR straight times on him, but now, finally, they know what to expect. He's just had a good season, so he's due for a bad one. Many owners put him on their anti team.
FPL5: Luxury Price: $5, expected to score ~25 points Luxury goes 7-2, scores 34 pts, actually exceeding last round's projection (price to $6)
In true Luxury fashion, he does the most inconsistent, unpredictable thing for Luxury: he suddenly becomes consistent, and screws over all the owners who picked him for Anti. Now, with KT rising and Luxury doing well two straight seasons, many owners pick him up.
FPL6: Luxury Price: $6; expected to score ~30 points Luxury goes 1-4, scores 6 pts, ends at $1 trade value
In a big "F U" to all his owners, Luxury quickly reverts to his old form. Even though KT went 7-4, Luxury still sucked. Luxury Chaos Theory is born. Theorum states that Luxury performance cannot be predicted or compensated for. No matter what you do, he will score the opposite of what you predict. To save headaches and time, Fantasy creators will perpetually price him at $5.
Don't know what you're exactly looking for in the performance in the previous season, but trade value goes up and down depending on the performance. The trade value is linked with initial worth and gauges how much the players are worth during the run. Hence, if a player is over performing (or simply getting better), the price will go up, etc. etc.
Stork was an obvious choice for me as captain, since he is the cheapest of the TBLS. With Winners League being over, BeSt will be relegated to map sniping, which bodes well for him, as his strong PvT and PvP will take over. Canata was just a fanboy pick, after all, I am his #1 fan. ZerO is the crutch of Woongjin, success or failure depends on him even though Woongjin has a deep lineup. Tempest for KT win points.
I think free will do well in this format as well; he seems to be the RoRo/Shine of this season, many will put him on anti, many will put him on main, and he will tend to screw up both sides. I hope for the anti-free fans to regret putting free on their antis.
Anti-team seems simple for me, I feel that Horang2 won't be successful, Jaehoon will be Jaehoon, and Saint won't get much playing time or lose.
Dude canata is not going to be playing, he's going to ace but haven't been put on their roster yet
Well, i chose OZ and Jaedong beause i'm a die-hard fanboy, but with just 15 points left, i went for cheap good players. I chose SHy because i think he has the talent to become the best protoss in Oz, and he's certainly better than Pefectman. Also, a 40% wins player for just one unit is a real deal. I took Grape because he's quite good, but not formidable. It seems to me there's quite a bunch of good young protosses, none of them S-code material, but they will be very good A-teamers. but he's the second best protoss at Samsung Khan and he has a great teacher. With Stork going on a little slump, i think he could become even more important for them. Crazy-Hydra was a close call. I actually wanted to take Action, but i didn't had enough money... still, Action is as irregular as Crazy-Hydra seems to be, and i believe he has some talent (the nice all-kill certainly counts). The roster of KT is terribly small, so i'm pretty sure he's going to have a lot of play time. Horang2 is an all around solid player, with good mechanics. He's not really impressive, but for just 5 points, he's a good deal. Well, and here i'm with just 3 points and not erran players. That let me with Skyhigh, a good terran on a terrible slump, Sand two terrans that are not even sure to play. I took Reality because he's younger and seems more talented (and he also beat Ssak recently).
For my anti-team, i took BarrackS because h's not going to see playtime, and if he does, he will lose terribly. I also took two players that are BAD (mark my words for roro) and seems grossly over-rated, s2 and Roro.
But then, i realize Jaehoon was valued at 5 points (!) and Killer at 6 points. They are actually worst than s2 and Roro.
and don't forget, s2 made T1 won the winner's league. and these guys are going to be fielded all the time, try to pick players who's gonna be least picked! :D
On April 19 2011 10:47 aimaimaim wrote: Never diss Roro and Jaehoon ..
and don't forget, s2 made T1 won the winner's league. and these guys are going to be fielded all the time, try to pick players who's gonna be least picked! :D
On April 19 2011 10:32 legaton wrote:But then, i realize Jaehoon was valued at 5 points (!) and Killer at 6 points. They are actually worst than s2 and Roro.
For my anti-team, i took BarrackS because h's not going to see playtime, and if he does, he will lose terribly. I also took two players that are BAD (mark my words for roro) and seems grossly over-rated, s2 and Roro.
But then, i realize Jaehoon was valued at 5 points (!) and Killer at 6 points. They are actually worst than s2 and Roro.
Yeah good luck with that antiteam LOLOLOLOL
Jaehoon and Killer will get WAY more points than s2/Roro...
First of all, i've always felt that KT was an imba team, and that an ace match situation is a gaunteed win. This may not prove worthy but I love the shit out of Movie despite his mediocre stats. Calm just 2-0'd his MSL group Firebathero will pretty much be a garunteed play on ACE, and he's been doing well Midas was cheap, and he plays far better than most of the other 3's mind 2-0'd his MSL group after a win against Stork I also love shine the same way i love movie, just not quite as much.
Great just failed to get out of his MSL group, and was Overpriced. There's always a possibility of Light facing a protoss. Ssak, well, he's ssak.
On April 19 2011 10:47 aimaimaim wrote: Never diss Roro and Jaehoon ..
and don't forget, s2 made T1 won the winner's league. and these guys are going to be fielded all the time, try to pick players who's gonna be least picked! :D
Like C-H for example
For anti-teams, you mean?
Who would put s2 on their anti? O.o
People who hate his guts, realize he's a SKT Zerg and thus horrible, and pretty much everyone who sees that his prize is 5 points.
Under "more groups" join "no trades no TBLS" if you're willing to follow that challenge. No trading, Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, or Stork (on main or anti). I got 10th with the challenge on last season so it's not impossible.
i went for cheap players, first i thought "well flash, bisu or jaedong?" but those players are good for WL when they can all kill the other team so i didnt pick any of them Hiya as been always a deadly god in PL and i have a lot of faith in Mind/Movie/Killer Ruby and Ssak were cheap and i think they can do good GO nR TEAM!
i went for cheap players, first i thought "well flash, bisu or jaedong?" but those players are good for WL when they can all kill the other team so i didnt pick any of them Hiya as been always a deadly god in PL and i have a lot of faith in Mind/Movie/Killer Ruby and Ssak were cheap and i think they can do good GO nR TEAM!
correct me if I'm wrong but i thought Hiya went 2-17 in PL
i went for cheap players, first i thought "well flash, bisu or jaedong?" but those players are good for WL when they can all kill the other team so i didnt pick any of them Hiya as been always a deadly god in PL and i have a lot of faith in Mind/Movie/Killer Ruby and Ssak were cheap and i think they can do good GO nR TEAM!
correct me if I'm wrong but i thought Hiya went 2-17 in PL
Oh yeah I was wondering if we can join groups now?? I forgot about this feature during the previous FPL season, now I totally forgot when can we join/make funny groups like I-hate-Bisu-but-I-have-him-on-my-team group.
Thought Process: CH: Has proven that he can flex some muscle, even getting an AK in WL. For 4 points he's pretty undervalued, though this may be due to his recent team switch I believe given a couple of weeks to recuperate he'll return to his normal level of contribution. FBH: Has been doing really well recently. ACE has to field him because they only have one other semi-decent player ggaemo, so we can expect some decent playing--and winning--time for FBH. ggaemo: Really the only person on ACE who actually wins games with any semblance of consistency. ACE depends on him, so we can see ggaemo picking up consistent wins in PL and a couple of 2 kills in WL as he has done so far. At 4 points this isn't a bargain, but is still definitely worth the investment. Light: Hasn't been on form recently. Has crazy potential for AKs but is slumping recently. Hopefully the change of air for him moving to Woongjin will help him move on. Don't think WJ would've acquired him just to let him warm the benches. Movie: Has the potential. Some say he only has two matchups that favor him but he went on a sick killing spree in WL for a while and I believe that he's got great prospects ahead of him. This is the gamble. Mind: s2 does well at 5 points but is too common of a pick. Mind's been playing well and will receive playing time, and win.
FOX: They've got a potent roster. RorO, Shine, BaBy, and Mind all can take games off of anyone. Hopefully they'll have the consistency to do so regularly.
Anti-Team: Jangbi: No. Not good. Some playing time, lots of losing. Killer: Overrated honestly. 6 points? He's not even that good and with a horrible ZvT to boot. By.Sun: Filler. Doesn't play, will lose.
On April 19 2011 12:57 jalstar wrote: Under "more groups" join "no trades no TBLS" if you're willing to follow that challenge. No trading, Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, or Stork (on main or anti). I got 10th with the challenge on last season so it's not impossible.
Just joined..this should be a fun challenge, haha.
First of all, i've always felt that KT was an imba team, and that an ace match situation is a gaunteed win. This may not prove worthy but I love the shit out of Movie despite his mediocre stats. Calm just 2-0'd his MSL group Firebathero will pretty much be a garunteed play on ACE, and he's been doing well Midas was cheap, and he plays far better than most of the other 3's mind 2-0'd his MSL group after a win against Stork I also love shine the same way i love movie, just not quite as much.
Great just failed to get out of his MSL group, and was Overpriced. There's always a possibility of Light facing a protoss. Ssak, well, he's ssak.
KT a guaranteed win in ace match situation? Wasn't it just a year ago that Flash lost like 7 (or more?) ace matches in a row?
Sorry i was writing my analysis in edit, i'll just write it straight up in the future.
I don't expect tyson, jaehoon or horang2 to do well this season, and i've never really heard much out of them either, so they're my antis
My main team are just players i've always supported and liked, and expect to do well.
Baller 16-point anti team dude. Btw, would someone make this kind of thread again? I can't post my team here because I don't have any insight about it.
Jaedong: I'm proud to announce that Jaedong's been my captain for every FPL season I've been in, and will continue to be my captain indefinitely. <3
Leta: Leta keeps the cuteness of my team high. Having a cute team is important, so this is a solid pick. Also Leta's stopped slumping and is inexpensive, so this should go well for me!
HiyA: Magikarp's pretty expensive this season, but he's been superb the last two rounds of FPL. Slumped hard during R1 and R2, but hey that's over now.
Iris: Not sure about this pick. Another regular on my FPL who hasn't disappointed, and priced pretty well..
Ssak: If SKT keeps sending Ssak, he'll probably do well and be a good buy. Maps have been a bit Terran favored lately, so that could see SKT wanting to send more Terrans than just Fantasy, and Ssak's the easy second pick.
Horang: Pretty easy pick, Horang's on a team with a lot of Protoss, and some really good non-Protoss players, so he won't see too much game time, and won't win too many games when he does get sent out.
Jangbi: Horang/Movie seems like a good anti combo, but Hite's gonna win a lot and those team win points can rack up, so I looked towards rounding out the team with two $4 players. Jangbi's having an awful season, and will likely continue at least for a time. A return in form can see him traded off easily.
Shuttle: Not really sure about Shuttle, but I needed another $4 player and he seems the weakest after Jangbi.
Not too confident in my team, too many fanboy picks, but that's part of the fun! The players you like win and your FPL does well, double the happy.
I wasn't sure if I wanted to pick Flash and a almost A-rank player (Mind) or two A-rank players like Stork and Sea. I figured the first was worth it, since Mind have been playing really well lately. It might be a mistake though, since Stork and Sea are the only real Ace candidates in their teams, and both have the potentials to do long streaks. However, I think KT and Fox have deeper lineups than Samsung and MBC, so Flash will probably play a lot of Ace matches, and I think Mind will get some chances too. I think he's definately a better option than Baby and Roro against Protoss and Terran, and he's not terrible against Zerg either.
I picked Best out of pure fanboyism, plus, with his potentials he's a very good pick. Grape at 2 points was a steal, especially looking at his play lately. Reality might not have been the safest pick at 3 points, but most of the other candidates have been disappointed lately and he's one of the young players I'm rooting for. Hoejja was the filler pick. I needed a Zerg, and he seemed to be the best choice, plus the team is very important for lower end picks, and KT is a top 3 team imo.
KT for 4 points was a steal. Flash is two autowins most of the time, and Chintoss is really good too. Crazy-Hydra should add some depth that was lacking after Violet's illness.
The Anti Team was really obvious. All the players are overpriced, and Shuttle will not get to play every game.
First of all, i've always felt that KT was an imba team, and that an ace match situation is a gaunteed win. This may not prove worthy but I love the shit out of Movie despite his mediocre stats. Calm just 2-0'd his MSL group Firebathero will pretty much be a garunteed play on ACE, and he's been doing well Midas was cheap, and he plays far better than most of the other 3's mind 2-0'd his MSL group after a win against Stork I also love shine the same way i love movie, just not quite as much.
Great just failed to get out of his MSL group, and was Overpriced. There's always a possibility of Light facing a protoss. Ssak, well, he's ssak.
hahah dude this is like the exact opposite of my thinking... Your team does look solid though. GL.
In my opinion Light is probably the most underrated BW player in last few years, especially in case of his PL performance. There was a season (somewhere around 08-09) when he went on crazy streak and had like 90 % w/l ratio totally unnoticed lol.
Also if Calm performs well this season I'll be very angry.. 2nd FPL choosing effort as up and coming star cost me winning the whole FPL (finished 6th), just to see him really shine in (and destroy my anti where I put him in anger) next season.. last FPL Calm basicly destroyed my chances to get in top 10 (finished 18th).
Speaking of 2nd FPL.. When Effort failed, there were two guys that brought me to top10. Reach and Guemchi. They cost 1 (one!) point TOTAL. As I don't follow BW much anymore, I decided to believe in Guemchi and his Indian resurection and give him another chance.
I can't believe I chose FBH to my team....oh well, everyone's so expensive..
BTW, when I took a look at my FPL2 team - I had both Bisu AND Flash on the team, Bisu cost 9, Flash only 8 (+effort 7)....good (cheap) times.
Anti Team 5 Jaehoon 4 Jangbi 4 Turn My antis were really obvious. Turn and Jangbi are overpriced players with poor records on a team that loses. Jaehoon is Jaehoon and that's all he'll ever be. Best will now have a chance to resume his Terran(maybe protoss) sniping activities Dear and Perfectman are ridiculously cheap and have good chance of being sent out Firebathero is pretty much the ACE of KAF right now. Flash is Flash and will always play, and will always win the ACE match, which is why i picked KT. SoO is a zerg on SKT so he'll pretty much be a garuntee play, and his team wins quite often.
I'll be shocked if he even gets 2 games in both rounds combined.
On April 20 2011 12:51 Gara wrote: In the scoring example in the OP, shouldn't s2 have 0 points and Hyuk should have 3? Also, Hyuk is tagged as a Terran.
It seems whoever did it got mixed up on which line they were at and messed several scores up.
Does anyone know where I can find these for R1-R4?
There are definitely too many people over-valuing SWL performance and ignoring SPL results, but just as many who are ignoring SWL and only using SPL.
On April 19 2011 04:18 ZeaL. wrote: Ruby is a solid 1 pointer imo. Now that ggaemo and FBH are on ACE, he isn't being sent out as much. I don't expect to pick up much for Ruby but compared to the other 1 pointers he seems like a logical choice
On April 20 2011 20:55 Craton wrote: There are definitely too many people over-valuing SWL performance and ignoring SPL results, but just as many who are ignoring SWL and only using SPL.
On April 19 2011 04:18 ZeaL. wrote: Ruby is a solid 1 pointer imo. Now that ggaemo and FBH are on ACE, he isn't being sent out as much. I don't expect to pick up much for Ruby but compared to the other 1 pointers he seems like a logical choice
On April 20 2011 20:55 Craton wrote: There are definitely too many people over-valuing SWL performance and ignoring SPL results, but just as many who are ignoring SWL and only using SPL.
On April 19 2011 04:18 ZeaL. wrote: Ruby is a solid 1 pointer imo. Now that ggaemo and FBH are on ACE, he isn't being sent out as much. I don't expect to pick up much for Ruby but compared to the other 1 pointers he seems like a logical choice
Ruby leaves Ace in May.
So what should we do? lol
Get tips from Craton himself of course! He's really good at FPL!
Craton, convince me that I should not swap out my Leta for Calm before the season starts kthx!
On April 20 2011 20:55 Craton wrote: There are definitely too many people over-valuing SWL performance and ignoring SPL results, but just as many who are ignoring SWL and only using SPL.
On April 19 2011 04:18 ZeaL. wrote: Ruby is a solid 1 pointer imo. Now that ggaemo and FBH are on ACE, he isn't being sent out as much. I don't expect to pick up much for Ruby but compared to the other 1 pointers he seems like a logical choice
On April 20 2011 20:55 Craton wrote: There are definitely too many people over-valuing SWL performance and ignoring SPL results, but just as many who are ignoring SWL and only using SPL.
On April 19 2011 04:18 ZeaL. wrote: Ruby is a solid 1 pointer imo. Now that ggaemo and FBH are on ACE, he isn't being sent out as much. I don't expect to pick up much for Ruby but compared to the other 1 pointers he seems like a logical choice
Ruby leaves Ace in May.
So what should we do? lol
Get tips from Craton himself of course! He's really good at FPL!
Craton, convince me that I should not swap out my Leta for Calm before the season starts kthx!
Team Wins: Hite was stronger than STX in both SPL R1-R2 and SWL in R3-R4 Leta started out SWL with a huge losing streak of 2-8 before finding his mojo and winning 7 of his last 10. (9-10 overall)
Clam has been back and forth between win streaks and losing streaks and finished 11-12 overall. He got 4 more games, but also didn't have the stigma of being on a massive slump.
Leta went 12-6 in SPL, while Clam only mustered an 8-6. Pfwah.
Leta: 1.) Is cuter 2.) Requires less mascara 3.) Had a better SPL record, a similar SWL record, and a recent mojo-train 4.) Has a statistically better team 5.) Can cross-dress like a champ
And I'm not that good at FPL. Whatever proleague team I pick pretty much fails miserably all round every time. I have to trade shark every week just to break even.
wow i'm doing it all wrong. anyway every FPL i've been investing in flash and it's been pretty un-effictive. the rest of my team becomes turd because of it. can't let go of my boy stork though. despite never gaining any points gotta run old school with ace as well. always been a fan of free/zero and FBH/rock are ballers.
I've never been able to get a team that does well enough to overcome my crippling anti team hits. Decided to try for the team points with as many cheap KT members as possible and Flash. Then realized stork is only 1 point more than stats, and you know he is going to be sent out every time for samsung
On April 21 2011 12:17 phyren wrote: I've never been able to get a team that does well enough to overcome my crippling anti team hits. Decided to try for the team points with as many cheap KT members as possible and Flash. Then realized stork is only 1 point more than stats, and you know he is going to be sent out every time for samsung
why KT, did you look at their Round 1 and 2? not gonna leach that many points man
On April 21 2011 12:17 phyren wrote: I've never been able to get a team that does well enough to overcome my crippling anti team hits. Decided to try for the team points with as many cheap KT members as possible and Flash. Then realized stork is only 1 point more than stats, and you know he is going to be sent out every time for samsung
why KT, did you look at their Round 1 and 2? not gonna leach that many points man
stats was slumping back then and KT just really need to get to 3-x to win
My strategy with my team is relying on the pillar of each team. In the past season, many players I picked performed when they were sent, but were not sent enough overall. I'm hoping Stork, Jaedong, and Firebathero will carry their teams. Samsung and Hwaseung are pretty close to one man teams, so Stork and Jaedong better deliver.
Oh wow Craton that's huge analysis right there. Never expected THAT much detail, and lol those additional reasons are great. Now I can stop looking at my FPL signup page every few hours, thanks! Choice seems so obvious now, I should be looking at more stats than I did before.
Trade sharking ftw, that's how I got by last season!
On April 21 2011 13:30 fatfail wrote: My strategy with my team is relying on the pillar of each team. In the past season, many players I picked performed when they were sent, but were not sent enough overall. I'm hoping Stork, Jaedong, and Firebathero will carry their teams. Samsung and Hwaseung are pretty close to one man teams, so Stork and Jaedong better deliver.
It's funny that you say that because Khan would do so much better if January stopped sending out Jangbi and Great and started sending out turn and brave.
On April 21 2011 12:17 phyren wrote: I've never been able to get a team that does well enough to overcome my crippling anti team hits. Decided to try for the team points with as many cheap KT members as possible and Flash. Then realized stork is only 1 point more than stats, and you know he is going to be sent out every time for samsung
why KT, did you look at their Round 1 and 2? not gonna leach that many points man
stats was slumping back then and KT just really need to get to 3-x to win
Unless flash loses 7 ace matches in a row like R5 last year
On April 21 2011 12:17 phyren wrote: I've never been able to get a team that does well enough to overcome my crippling anti team hits. Decided to try for the team points with as many cheap KT members as possible and Flash. Then realized stork is only 1 point more than stats, and you know he is going to be sent out every time for samsung
why KT, did you look at their Round 1 and 2? not gonna leach that many points man
stats was slumping back then and KT just really need to get to 3-x to win
Unless flash loses 7 ace matches in a row like R5 last year
And who would be able to beat him? Flash would have to play himself in order for him to not win consistently. Oh wait....
On April 21 2011 18:12 flamewheel wrote: Errr should I remove those removed from roster? I'm going to at least update those who changed teams I suppose -__-
Okay not removing but roster updated for team-changing people. Not sure if that's going to affect anybody though.
i hope that you remove them since they won't play.. the ability to anti-team people who have zero chance of playing just seems a bit suspect..
considering that registration closes in less than two days, I think you should make a decision soon. I would be very sad if modesty was disallowed 2 hours before teams are due, and I missed out.
What do you guys (Craton) make out of choosing out of the six pointers? I see Light being used a lot by Stars as the terran ace, Snow seems a sure choice for CJ but has been playing kinda lackluster lately, Leta is solid on all thee matchups (providing that his vP gets better he will be very good). Then theres Soulkeywho is a favorite on Stars and RorO who will surely be played by FOX since its a bo7 format, both good all around players that will se playtime. I find Calm, Killer and Bogus overpriced, and HiyA seems a bit pricey too, he'd be better at 5 i think.
They all seem to be able to get ACE playtime, and none is a definite ACE too. What do you guys think?
roro won't be worth it. Good enough to cripple the anti, but not to be on a main team. I don't think he will get any ace.
Light and soulkey are solid picks.
Hiya leta and calm are risky. calm might do well if kal slumps hard, and he can pick up all of the aces. I would have put snow in the solid category, but CJ hasn't played him a lot, so he is somewhat risky, with a small upside for 6 points.
Agree that killer and bogus are overpriced. Both are strong contenders for the anti, but killer seems worse.
You may have noticed a theme. After trying to concoct several winning formulas for my first FPL, this time I've given up. So, my thought process:
1) I chose a team first. I decided to pick up Woongjin for several reasons. First, roster. ZerO + free + Light + Really + Soulkey is absolutely stacked... at least in theory. Second, fanboy! free's my favorite player and Woongjin's my team. Of course, they could crash, which brings me to 3... Woongjin's currently below average, so they're due for a winning round because they believe in being average.
2) Given that decision, I also chose a good player from Woongjin: Light. Invisible Terran ahoy! And then I decided to choose Leta because it's Leta and his MSL was good.
3) ...and then I abandoned all reason and decided to run with the theme. LuCifer is not good, but Pure is inconsistent so he'll probably see play time and might win some games. So that's okay. Last is also bad, but is a TvT/large map sniper for STX so might see some time... and if not STX has a good lineup so I'll at least get points from wins. Lomo's the silliest pick: with Killer and HiyA stepping up he's not going to be played even though it ought to be him and Anytime splitting time. But I needed the theme! Plus he might win random games and OZ should be okay.
4) That left me with one spot, no Zerg, and 8 points. That meant either Hydra or ZerO. Hydra's probably better, and he doesn't have awful ZvZ... but he hasn't beaten Flash recently either. ZerO's amazing when he's on his game. And STARS! Plus I feel like Woongin's supporting cast ought to be better, or at least deeper, than Entus's. The only thing that concerns me is that Hydra's better in ace games... so let's hope Light starts playing those, lol.
It's kind of a silly way to put together a team, but it seems to have worked out pretty well.
The anti, on the other hand, I'm not sure about.
Action's dangerous, but I don't think he's actually good. But he's also only 5 points, so that means I need 8 more. None of the 8 pointers are good picks, though Kal might come in under his cost. There are no 7 point players. Of the 6 players, the weakest is Tyson... and while any of them might slump, I hate guessing. Of the 5 pointers, the only one I'd even consider on anti is HyuN (still considering this, actually). The 4 pointers is basically blindfold darts, but Jangbi/hero seems reasonable.
The HyuN proposal: The thing is, sometimes HyuN plays like an S class for a couple weeks, and that could burn me, even though he mostly sucks. The other thing is, if I put him on anti, which 3 pointer do I go with? Saint? They're both bad Zergs, but I'm basically saying, "Hi, I'm going to eat all the points from every time an MBC Zerg wins."
On April 22 2011 05:44 night terrors wrote: What do you guys (Craton) make out of choosing out of the six pointers? I see Light being used a lot by Stars as the terran ace, Snow seems a sure choice for CJ but has been playing kinda lackluster lately, Leta is solid on all thee matchups (providing that his vP gets better he will be very good). Then theres Soulkeywho is a favorite on Stars and RorO who will surely be played by FOX since its a bo7 format, both good all around players that will se playtime. I find Calm, Killer and Bogus overpriced, and HiyA seems a bit pricey too, he'd be better at 5 i think.
They all seem to be able to get ACE playtime, and none is a definite ACE too. What do you guys think?
Zero will get most of the ace games, followed by Free. Light might get some, but I wouldn't favor him over the others. Hydra will get the lion's share of Hite ace games.
I don't feel like Stork will have the ROI this round, he's not going to get more points than zero and hydra despite being worth 1 more. Kinda odd that there's no 7 pointers. I feel like Kal/stats/sea should be 7 points.
I'm tempted to make a 29 point team but in the end I stuck with Stork despite him being imo overpriced.
well i am still not really sure if i wanna go with this team cos i dont have hope for Khan at all lol,if you have any suggestions,please do let me know.
Heres my analysis
Flash is a god Best with 3 pts is a steal imo,although hes not doing well the past few rounds maybe due to WL.I havent check regular PL but i have faith that Best will destroy with his awesome Macro
for other Khan members Reality just passed went thru + Show Spoiler +
MSL
so i chose him instead of Turn Grape just played more games than Jangbi and will appear more.... brave duh.... great is a great zvz sniper,i dont see him bad at all
For anti CH is a shit,they rather send out Action than any other zerg Free ....well I overestimate him when he moved back to A team,I guess that he should move back to B team By.hero....is just rofl..
-KT is a solid pick for a team, especially at 4 points. Their line up is pretty deep with the addition of crazy-hydra, and a lot of their players can play well when in form (stats, action, etc).
- Firebathero and ggaemo receive a lot of play time on ACE. While the actual team gets its ass kicked overall, firebathero and ggaemo are usually the ones that can pick up wins consistently, and they will play the ace match if it ever gets there. Decently priced at 4 each.
- Best seems super cheap at 3 points. He has the 2nd best PvT, and he can easily snipe other team when SKT decides to send him. He's not in form at the moment, but that can change.
- I picked Guemchi because he was 1 point. I have no idea what the hell he's been up to, but it seems like a steal at 1 point, since there's a pretty good chance Woongjin will send him out if he's been practicing and got good again.
- Hydra and Leta performed extremely well during the first couple rounds. While Leta's not playing well lately, he's still one of Hite's best players. Hydra has been owning in SPL, plus he won the last MSL, beating Jaedong in a ZvZ. Also, one of those two will get sent out at the ace match for Hite. For 14 points, it seems like a bargain getting 2 top players that aren't TBLS.
-As for the Anti, Frozen sucks, and I'm hoping Killer and Movie will continue their slumping ways in SPL, even though they've been posting results in winner's league. This will probably end up biting me in the ass. I'm probably gonna change this after I put more thought into it.
Sorry guys, was there a reason that I can't choose effort in this FPL? Although he is unlikely to play having just come back, alot of players on those lists are unlikely to play as well? Plus he is still a member of CJ (now 'Hite Entus')?
On April 22 2011 16:48 Vandy wrote: Sorry guys, was there a reason that I can't choose effort in this FPL? Although he is unlikely to play having just come back, alot of players on those lists are unlikely to play as well? Plus he is still a member of CJ (now 'Hite Entus')?
He's literally unable to play until like August or so. Something about having to wait 1 year after retiring to become a progamer again.
Due to Modesty being removed from the roster, I had to change my Modesty+Jaedong combo to Hydra+Action for the same point value. I'd love to have Soulkey on (finally I could like something about his turtling ZvP wins :-p), but I just cant take that 1 extra point (compared to Action) off anywhere! edit: I just ended up changing Action to great for one point less. 29-point main team gogo
I have samsung as my team but after reading about it's fail in the news post... Reality did ok in the MSL but the teams record is sooo bad... And both three points... Watt to do.
Im getting Bisu because its fun having your favorite player on the FPL. That aside I feel that Bisu will get a lot of Ace matches, his PvZ is stellar and his PvT is incredibly solid; we havnt seen his PvP in a long time but im counting on practice having shaped it a bit more.
Baby will get a lot of ace matches on Fox and is on a great form lately. He is a solid player all around and having him as ace seems good. Stats played very well but i dont trust him keeping the form he had when he three killed, besides, he is not a sure ace on KT. Zero will be sharing playtime as ace and his ZvZ is still a bit shaky. Hydra seems a bit overhyped, he was solid on the ro32 but he is also on a deep team.
Grape is a good choice for a two pointer, solid play and on Khan he could rise to new hights. He is the only choice i could change later, for a one pointer and getting MBC or Khan.
I chose FOX because I believe that Mind is a bit more solid, Baby is good, Shine can rock it some times and Roro is solid too, if they pick it up they are a steal at 2 points.
Leta has momentum on his side and has shown to be a historically solid player all around, his TvP is a bit weak but I sense that the merger has improved this matchup. The other 6's dont convince, Hiya and Killer are capable but unstable. Snow is a tad pricey for the play he has shown lately.
Grape is a good choice for a two pointer, solid play and on Khan he could rise to new hights. He is the only choice i could change later, for a one pointer and getting MBC or Khan.
Lol, why would you let the only player you would change as captain that is unchangeable ?
On April 23 2011 22:37 BloodDrunK wrote: why isn't there a separate thread for discussions this time??????
Note: Please do not post your teams in this thread unless you add a lot of analysis about it. This is a thread about discussion, not signups, so there will be no spam posting of just your FPL team here. Thanks!
Note: Please do not post your teams in this thread unless you add a lot of analysis about it. This is a thread about discussion, not signups, so there will be no spam posting of just your FPL team here. Thanks!
Is 1 really neccesary?
I think if this is the designated discussion thread, the title should be edited at least. People looking for FPL discussion might not necessarily look in the Signups thread.
KT was obvious choice, 4 points for such team is a steal.
Light, my captain - i expect him and ZerO to play in most of Woogjin's ace matches (stars should have a lot of them, given their current state), he is solid in mirror and great vs Z.Who knows, maybe he will learn how to TvP during this round as well, heh.There were few good 6 pointers, and Light was among the best ones.
Calm - with Kal playing terrible lately, he should become STX's first ace.His shape is hard to predict, he might go on a nice winning streak or slump hard, thats why ill probably trade him off later on (after he racks up some points for me of course:D)
Leta - getting back in shape, should appear often and win more than during last season.Hydra will probably appear in most of Hite's ace games, but who knows what will happen.
Crazy-Hydra - KT's depth and Action to practice with should make him stronger with each week, i don't know how he finds himself in new house, but if everything goes well he should appear regulary on KT's match roster.
Reality - my worst pick probably, sure JangBi is slumping hard and this kid should take his spot for now, but i might have to trade him off early if he doesn't perform well.Hoping that his MSL performance is going to boost his confidence and ability to play under pressure.
Reach - Mantoss for 1 point, on KT? IAM SO BUYING THIS Needed protoss on solid team.Wanted to go with sHy at first, but it was just too risky with him,BackHo and Anytime competing for Protoss spot.With Reach i am sure at least to get +1 after most KT's games.
The Slumpers:
Peace - 1 pointer, on ACE, won't proably appear in this round.
RorO - suicide i know, but maybe this time he won't appear often enough to send me to 1000's. Damn, who am i joking, we all know that this will backfire at me.Doh!
Tyson - had great previou round, don't think that he is capable of performing so well once again.
I know we aren't supposed to post teams here but I somehow missed signup so I need a record of my team. 3 Best 12 Bisu 4 Crazy-Hydra 2 Grape 4 great 3 Shine (steal at this price) 2 WeMade FOX
On May 01 2011 19:43 frank0406 wrote: Is hydra supposed to get 1 point today with ACE appearance?
Lineup Appearance (non-Ace): +1 Point Game Win (Ace included): +2 Points Game Loss (Ace included): -1 Point Ace Match Appearance: +2 Points 3-Game Win Streak: +1 Point 6-Game Win Streak: +2 Points 9-Game Win Streak: +3 Points Break Another Player's Streak: +1 Point Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point*
EPT
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