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theramstoss
Canada242 Posts
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whiteguycash
United States476 Posts
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kineSiS-
Korea (South)1068 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
On January 02 2011 05:03 kineSiS- wrote: Korean is read from left to right. D'awww, the "-_-" face added personality  The effect is probably minimal at the speeds at which they play, but it's probably just the more natural thing to do, I think...as you mentioned, you move from the minimap. There's nothing ever in the other corners that they want to click, but the minimap in the bottom left probably influences them....? | ||
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Firien
Poland115 Posts
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gongryong
Korea (South)1430 Posts
whiteguycash United States. January 02 2011 04:50 its possible, though I don't know how Korean is read, I do know that English is read from left-to-right top-to-bottom. That *might* have something to do with it. Someone that has any knowledge on Korean reading/writing might be able to deny/confirm. language/reading has little to do with it. as a matter of fact, to disabuse the OP, most progamers box from topleft to bottomright. while i am not sure about the minimap argument, im sure that the distance from area just above minimap (for bottomleft - topright movement) to the area where you start topleft is practically negligible (unless your mouse speed is set to 0.5 xD). most importantly, carpal and metacarpal tendons and muscles are easier to contract (closing the hand) than expand (opening the hand). topleft - bottomright is a close hand motion, and bottomleft to topright is an open hand one. xD | ||
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theramstoss
Canada242 Posts
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supernovamaniac
United States3047 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
On January 02 2011 05:58 supernovamaniac wrote: I think its personal choice, rather than how they read or how efficient it is. Seconded, as people have noted there is significant differences among progamers (if you look at FPVODs of JD and many other pros there is variance). Of course bottom left to top right is more effective when the action in question is to the right, and vice versa from top right to bottom left or whatever. But in the end the difference is not that big. I personally like going from top right to bottom left and can manage 300+ apm with it, and my brother who can do the same goes top left to bottom right. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
On January 02 2011 05:26 gongryong wrote: most importantly, carpal and metacarpal tendons and muscles are easier to contract (closing the hand) than expand (opening the hand). topleft - bottomright is a close hand motion, and bottomleft to topright is an open hand one. xD This just blew my mind when I did a few practice drag box clicks to check it out. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
i do it from top right to bottom left, it's the ONLY right way to do it. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Chimpalimp
United States1135 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
language/reading has little to do with it. as a matter of fact, to disabuse the OP, most progamers box from topleft to bottomright. while i am not sure about the minimap argument, im sure that the distance from area just above minimap (for bottomleft - topright movement) to the area where you start topleft is practically negligible (unless your mouse speed is set to 0.5 xD). most importantly, carpal and metacarpal tendons and muscles are easier to contract (closing the hand) than expand (opening the hand). topleft - bottomright is a close hand motion, and bottomleft to topright is an open hand one. Wow sweet, thanks :D (lol is the xD in red a mod edit?) | ||
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gongryong
Korea (South)1430 Posts
supernovamaniac United States. January 02 2011 05:58 I think its personal choice, rather than how they read or how efficient it is. Well, i'd like to think that personal choice is merely secondary to the mechanical logic at work here: any other cursor-based interface (like click-dragging icons), hand muscles (as i've explained earlier), reading direction (as others suggest), etc. the choice is personal only AFTER these elements are accounted for. consider, if it's all about personal choice, we should get a more or less even distribution among four possible directions (topleft-bottomright, bottomleft-topright, topright-bottomleft, bottomright-topleft). but, more than 80% of the progamers ive watched in live games and fpvods use topleft-bottomright. and this (lol is the xD in red a mod edit?) no just mine. hope mods dont mind :p xD | ||
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Loser777
1931 Posts
I've seen some exceptions though--if you've ever watched KawaiiRice's stream, you'll notice that he spams some boxes bottom left to top right. | ||
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oBlade
United States5956 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
For example if I have my army moving west, I will drag from the east side so they are moving into my selection, rather than past my box starting point. | ||
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lastreason
Romania250 Posts
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b(town)
United States20 Posts
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
Top right to bottom left, I'm right handed, you made me think about it just now and I think I have a reason why: (remember this is for using the mouse with the right hand) Top Right to Bottom left, which I'll refer to as ' / ' is better because I feel you get more control. Your thumb contracts to drag the mouse towards you, and your pinky is likely planted and remains fixed (I've got a small, Logitech Mini Optical so my pinky touches my mousepad). In fact it's much more similar to how your hand moves when you write, usually you don't write like this \\\\\\\\ your write like this ///////// at that type of slant, thus you're more used to it and have more precise control. Try sharpening a stick with a pocketknife on a campout, and you'll inadvertently go // away from you... imo it just works better. To contrast, dragging like \ doesn't give you as much control because you have to move your entire wrist instead of your fingers, either that or you're relying on weaker and less accurate fingers to end your glide precisely (lets face it, your pinky is less developed for precession control than your thumb, and when you're going top left to bottom right [\] you need to displace your 'outside' knuckles, meaning a bigger movement, meaning in theory less accuracy). Well that's just how I feel when dragging boxes, lol boxing units and re-rallying are much more critical things to get hung up on. | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On September 13 2011 01:06 bITt.mAN wrote: I bothered to investigate the problem, experiment a bit and write up a nice response to another thread that just popped up on this topic.... only to have it closed because, well, it was a shit thread. I don't want to waste the effort (hey I postponed doing important stuff to write this), and there are a bunch of threads on this topic.... Top right to bottom left, I'm right handed, you made me think about it just now and I think I have a reason why: (remember this is for using the mouse with the right hand) Top Right to Bottom left, which I'll refer to as ' / ' is better because I feel you get more control. Your thumb contracts to drag the mouse towards you, and your pinky is likely planted and remains fixed (I've got a small, Logitech Mini Optical so my pinky touches my mousepad). In fact it's much more similar to how your hand moves when you write, usually you don't write like this \\\\\\\\ your write like this ///////// at that type of slant, thus you're more used to it and have more precise control. Try sharpening a stick with a pocketknife on a campout, and you'll inadvertently go // away from you... imo it just works better. To contrast, dragging like \ doesn't give you as much control because you have to move your entire wrist instead of your fingers, either that or you're relying on weaker and less accurate fingers to end your glide precisely (lets face it, your pinky is less developed for precession control than your thumb, and when you're going top left to bottom right [\] you need to displace your 'outside' knuckles, meaning a bigger movement, meaning in theory less accuracy). Well that's just how I feel when dragging boxes, lol boxing units and re-rallying are much more critical things to get hung up on. Your thumb contracts to bring the mouse towards you when you move top right to bottom left? I think you may have mixed those directions up a little  | ||
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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Demonhunter04
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
bottum-top=speed hope this will help you | ||
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nShade
Bulgaria296 Posts
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
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