EPTWho were/are the best foreign sc1 players? - Page 5
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simme123
Sweden810 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On December 17 2010 13:31 Guybrush wrote: 20.Testie(R) - Best(hacked before 03) 03,04,05,06, PlayIT, Ace Your post is absolutely amazing, but you're extremely underselling Testie's accomplishments. Need I remind you he was voted Clanbase #1 player? | ||
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IceCube
Croatia1403 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On December 17 2010 12:45 Khol wrote: Abuser Forever: Yosh? Yosh was better than all of those Terran players that everyone assumed to be good. He was the best Terran in USA. Years of the highest skilled play in NA and now he's known as a "Abuser". I find it rather disgusting, really. It was two games and both games were played straight up. That just disturbs me. Drone made an interesting post about Yosh: On December 23 2009 07:28 Liquid`Drone wrote: actually yosh has a bigger history as a cheater than hmm literally every single other top player ever to grace starcraft. he abused in gamei ladder, he abused in kbk, he abused in wgt ladder, he played 1v1 tournaments back in the day (before replays) where hattan would observe and in the event that yosh lost the game, hattan and yosh would both claim that yosh won. he maphacked in the compusa gamefixx tournament.. yosh has abused every time he has had the opportunity to abuse, and him being perceived as a legitimate player by everyone who started playing bw after 2003 is a complete disaster. don't get me wrong - he is extremely skilled (and always has been), but he has been cheating or abusing for more than 9 years now. that's more abuse for a longer period of time than _anyone else who plays brood war_. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9571 Posts
On December 17 2010 09:16 Boblion wrote: Best Achievements: Grrr Most bm: NoHope First protoss fan: Idra Favourite clown: MisterZZZ Strongest foreigner: Incontrol Cookie time: Cloud Best nickname: Testie False modesty champion and waffle award: Mondragon Top mentally challenged player: GosI[Terran] Abuser forever: Yosh BBQ sauce: Dreiven Kimbo award: HovZ Best haircut: Elky #1 BGH player: Surfer4life Oblivion medal: Dino Australian starcraft player: Legionnaire Best storm drops and arbiter play: Nony Haha, I just noticed this. Funnily enough, there's at least a few more of those awards that could go to Surfer ^^ Also, you're missing "#1 Terran m&m control on Hunters in USA" award. | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
I still believe that he's a great player. I'd like to apologize to the Boblion. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
Crazy game. Oh and Pj didn't beat sAviOr at his prime in WCG 2007, that was when he slumped after his final vs Bisu and shortly after getting that embarrassing loss to FBH. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 17 2010 08:14 lungo wrote: Grrr for winning OSL Elky for being the latest foreigner to be on the kespa top30list Mondi for his many year domination PJ for his godly pvt LX was good SEn also dominated for a while Legionaire from AUS, probaly being the latest foreigner top play a kespa television match? Idra was probably the best player in the end of the SC era (since sc2 came out) Ret and nony were / are good i liked JF as well Nony was the best foreigner when everyone made the switch to SC2, watch the TSL2. On December 17 2010 08:52 ssregi- wrote: Idra The best Not quite, nice try. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8222 Posts
On December 17 2010 21:02 Holgerius wrote: Do you realize how much Idra won in the last year or so of BW? Yeah, great career, great achievements... Let's see... Failed to qualify in any major league in Korea, Failed to go to A team after 3 years, Failed to play a single Kespa TV match, Lost to a foreigner in WCG 0-2, Failed in TSL1 early on Failed in TSL2 although he has 600 more practice time and experience than anybody else. He won a lot of small tournaments. Great. If he had been Korean, we would refer to him as a scrub who never achieved anything at all. Probably none of us would have ever heard of him. No, sorry, Idra has been a very very unsuccesfull progamer. He played amazingly, had fantastic mechanics, but something has always been missing, and this something seems to have been essential. | ||
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omgbbq2
Canada169 Posts
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jtbem
Canada1404 Posts
was just watching tsl1 games couple days ago. so sick im a fanboy | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On December 18 2010 01:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Crazy game. Oh and Pj didn't beat sAviOr at his prime in WCG 2007, that was when he slumped after his final vs Bisu and shortly after getting that embarrassing loss to FBH. Being a Savior fan I'd like to just lie and say "Savior was slumping so it's okay." But that's not the truth. If you look at after Savior's loss to Bisu, Savior reinvented his ZvP. His peak ZvP ELO was reached on Nov 23, 2007, while WCG took place in October. The truth is that PJ defeated Savior while Savior was on the longest ZvP winstreak of his career. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
There are too many prominent names, lots of which are in the database. Anyway, I decided to compose a comprehensive list based on their regions. Notable players in chronological order from country (I will try to update this as best as I can if I think of anything else): Canada 1. Grrrr... 2. Smuft 3. XiaOzI 4. Testie 5. JF *After these guys you have players like Paul, Fire, AeriALs, Mora, VeG, TT1, Yan, Fayth, Pride, Taurent, Kiwi, Korn, CraZy, etc. U.S.A: 1. Whear 2. Maynard 3. Tsunami 4. Froz 5. Assem 6. *NonY/IdrA (it wouldn't be fair if I didn't include these two, although their prominence to the top only came a year before SC2 came along) *The States had many players who faired well. This list includes: {PH}Pillars, [9]Kain/Kain-The-Feared, [9]eVERLAST, Zileas, SloG4, Day[9], Rekrul, Cypressman, Incontrol, Nyoken, iNkA, Lz, Blackjack, G5, Agent_911, etc. They were well known for their good 2v2 teams like Poland and Germany. U.K. 1. MidiaN 2. Tillerman Jamie was just as good as Mondragon. Netherlands 1. Ret 2. Twisted 3. Nazgul 4. Strafe 5. NTT Norway: 1. Slayer 2. sVEN 3. StinGeR 4. Eriador 5. WhistleR * Notable players: ErlinG and Oystein. France 1. ElkY 2. Chobo 3. Sarens 4. TuZeR 5. MoMaN Chile 1. KNiF 2. KeiR 3. DinOt 4. GoTuNk 5. KiLLeR Malaysia 1. JohnRambo 2. MarinE Peru 1. Fenix 2. CaStrO 3. sMacker 4. HanDy 5. Darki Romania 1. Shaman 2. FlaF 3. UltraLinG 4. Praetor 5. Radu *Another really strong nation during clanwars. Other players include: Ryko, AnDrEi, Jack and DeathAngel. Mexico 1. GosI[Terran] 2. BlasT 3. StYm 4. DeSka 5. NeO)asS Croatia 1. Ptak Australia 1. Leggionaire oG)Gabriel and StarHunter deserves a shoutout too. Hungary 1. Ace 2. KaShu 3. Sziky 4. Cameleon 5. Gorky *Another very strong nation. Other players include: Naib, Dromedar and iNFERNO. Russia 1. Androide 2. A2 3. Brat_OK 4. Ex 5. Escape *Other notable mentions: Asmodey, uT)Phellan[S2], Ranger[pG], Bruce, Pomi, Rondo, Casper, etc. Greece 1. sataNik 2. Zato 3. Coulthard 4. TaSSa 5. DeA]eX[ Germany 1. Fisheye 2. BrEaKdOwN 3. GeNtLeMaN 4. Mondragon 5. Kolll *Germany was a superpower for a very long time and there was a good reason for this. Their list of talent is as long as Poland's: Infernal, Ace, Socke[pG], heXer[pG], GhosTa, GoOdy, HoRRoR, Selector, [pG]Cope, [pG]Dalailamer, [pG]DeliCato, etc. Also worth noting, Mondragon and Testie formed one of the best 2v2 teams of all time. Germany also has monster 2v2's just like the USA. Lithuania 1. Arew 2. Anon 3. Kr China 1. Lx 2. PJ 3. Super 4. Vulture 5. F91 *It was very unfortunate that we would have so many latency problems when playing with the Chinese and as a result their players mostly played on the Chinese servers. Other notable players include: hbq, Beckham, RushGooN, Phoenix66, CCQ, Jaystar, ChinaTTTT, etc. Taiwan 1. sEn Portugal 1. Syz 2. MiLLs Czech Republic 1. PredY 2. Crow 3. Dark_Caleb 4. Destroyer 5. Jump Poland 1. Draco 2. Blackman 3. Dreiven 4. MaNa 5. Spawn *Poland was another super power like Germany. Other players include: Paranoid, SunCow, Dunaj, MistrZZZ, Raven, Slider, Tarson, Sawyer, tomsOn, sYs, Moonshine etc. Also worth nothing, they were one of the hardest teams to play against in a Nation War because you would never know who the heck they were going to bring. -_- Ukraine 1. White-Ra 2. Strelok 3. DIMAGA 4. yAn 5. ALF *Ukraine was another really strong nation. Other players include: hanniGan, Enemy, etc. Finland 1. MadClaw 2. nApoLeon 3. Ovvi Turkey 1. ExGoSu 2. iLLe Italy 1. ClouD 2. Cafone I know I'm forgetting somebody, but I cannot remember. Bulgaria 1. Beast 2. Lamer 3. DIDI8 4. ENJoY 5. Zelias Other notables include: Technics and ready. Belarus 1. LoWeLy Kazakhstan 1. TemujiN Argentia 1. Pato 2. Sabbath Sweden 1. SaFT 2. WiLLEt[pG] 3. Daaman 4. TreK 5. Naugrim *Another incredibly hard one. Other notable players include: [pG]MaDFroG, HayprO, KaaZ, Mireille, DaZe, ZpuX, Gurram, Morrow, etc. Brazil 1. Hellghost 2. Odin 3. ReasoN 4. MasteR 5. StarDeath *Kelsen is the only other player I can think of. I know I must be missing somebody. Spain 1. ZelotITO 2. SquaLL 3. Suker 4. ALFA | ||
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HalfAmazing
Netherlands402 Posts
EDIT: also, please don't include known map hackers like Testie in the "best of all time" list, that's just wrong. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10307 Posts
loved when he beat Savior in WCG 2007 and took 3 place at the grand finals, good times <3 | ||
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powerfulcheeses
Canada101 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
G5 needs more love for his absolutely insane PvT. Nyoken was also one of the top foreigners but underachieved in tournaments, but he was in the By. clan and tore shit up. | ||
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wooozy
3813 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On December 17 2010 15:02 tryummm wrote: Yeah, through cheese and completely unnatural play compared to how Koreans play. I'd like to see PJ play Bisu if Bisu had the opportunity to watch some of his PVP VODS before the match, because you know PJ has watched Bisu play plenty. PJ is really good mechanically and plays really really smart,(ive watched hundreds of his reps..) he makes mistakes oncei n a while but they are very few. he plays really unorthodox which makes him hard to predict | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Elky and Grrr really showed it though as did a few other players | ||
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