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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 21 2010 13:48 GMT
#21
Amazing! I didn't know about any of this history, really interesting read!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
mangsky
Profile Joined September 2010
51 Posts
September 21 2010 14:09 GMT
#22
guess this is applicable to SC2 as well
except for the examples
ReTrooper
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany526 Posts
September 21 2010 15:01 GMT
#23
Interesting article, well done!
De omnibus dubitandum.
mimikami
Profile Joined August 2010
France77 Posts
September 21 2010 15:42 GMT
#24
The lamest hackers are those that have skills, not newbies.

They actually have good macro/micro and understand the flow of the game (D+/C-) iCCup, but instead of playing (or hacking) against players of their league they go in low level servers (battle.net, garena...) and bash noobs WITH HACKs, and he made no attempt to hide his maphack, amen.

A C- bashing noobs in Battle.net is bad, but a C- with hacks, can you believe how lame it is. Even with hack there is no way to kill him, the only solution is to rig the map to make the host have unlimited resources, then host as custom game and pray that he takes the bait. He DID take the bail and I won haha.

If you play on Garena, 70% of the people there hack. If is impossible for a newbie to play without hacking himself. iCCup is not a place for newbie either, because no one want to lose 10 games in a row. SC is a frustrating game for newbie, really.
mimi mimi mimi
Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
September 21 2010 15:53 GMT
#25
Nice article and timeline. I could relate to all of them since I was around during all those times.

There was also an era of anti-hack maps, maybe you can add that in if that is related?
The World God Only Knows
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
September 21 2010 16:10 GMT
#26
tl;dr...

totally just kidding. great writeup. I learned alot about the history of BW hacking
since 98'
Headlines
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States482 Posts
September 21 2010 16:29 GMT
#27
Hey Gecko[Xp],

That was a good read, but I think you left out a certain vigilante. Dakota_Fanning and his BWHF program. I wouldn't say this program is 100% full-proof, but it was a huge asset if I decided to play public games. I think the program's database lists over 20,000 hackers? Most are definitely hackers, but there's a few name spoofing cases in there, like me...

And what about wdetector? I personally haven't used it online, but those who have say its real-time update during the game is a big bonus.

sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 18:08:30
September 21 2010 17:33 GMT
#28
wdetector is really good IF you have korean windows. The MINI launcher for KR pro servers is also a very efficient antihack. I think BWHF could be listed there, but overall it was another temporary project that overall wasn't that effective. The program had a good idea behind it if it weren't for that it wasn't sensitive enough. It would often read commands like cycling through your hotkeys as sending too many simultaneous commands, and read as a multi-hack. I had to be taken off the site several times for this exact purpose. The project eventually shut down since it was discovered so many mistakes and mis-reads existed within the database. Overall, BWHF was a failure.\

I'm more curious about that OP3 program. That sounds like an amazing tool that could've really changed how we can watch replays. I mean to watch from the FP every time on some of the best players in the world to see how they do things almost seems broken.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 21 2010 18:02 GMT
#29
very interesting read. i play on iccup and i havent seen any instances of hacking yet
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 18:34:49
September 21 2010 18:31 GMT
#30
This is really interesting as I too have been with the community for many years, I've gotten to know alot of hackers as I've followed both this community, the map making community and the hacking community though different web-sites etc.

I still stand firm with this: Once a hacker is NOT always a hacker.

Why? Well because I used to hack and since I stopped I have never done it again, I rarely even visit the hacking community anymore (or mapmaking) since I don't have much time on my hands. But when I do it's purely to update current events and gather information.

I don't have any problems admitting that I hacked or why I hacked. When I got "caught" it was because I decided so by myself, I made it look like an accident but really it was because inside I wanted to quit hacking because I had started watching progaming and got a huge interest to become a good player.

Since there was so few interviews in this article I'll tell you my story if you want to know why I hacked.

+ Show Spoiler +
So I started playing starcraft with 3vs3 hunters and use map settings, remember playing alot of fastest possible as well with friends. I was 10 when I started and maybe like 14 when I got into mapmaking, this was huge for me and I learned everything about mapmaking though the community and exploring the game myself. A problem that occured alot was that when you were creating a new map without triggers, just creating the terrain you would have no vision of the map. (in the beginning you would not have auto-vision in editor) so someone recommended me to use map hack TO HELP WITH MAPMAKING. That was how I got into hacking and started following the hacking scene.

Now I was intrigued by this and eventually mapmaking just didn't do it for me anymore, I started playing melee and TvB again and now I was used to having hack all the time. I played on Europe only and basically just hacked like a complete Troll. I was a real troll, I didn't really care what happened, if I got caught or who I hacked. I started following swedish clans like BW- and when NaW- was created. This really got my interest, this thing with cland and playing melee, something that I never had done before. Soon enough I found out about teamliquid and the progaming scene in korea. This was starcraft at it's best! So I started playing seriously (again this was all on europe) trying to join clans, but even using hacks I never really got anywhere. My skill was like D+ and obviously I was not going anywhere in the fame or skill tree.

When I decided to stop hacking, it was not a thing that I had planned out, it just happened one game when I observed some swedish players playing. I decided to out myself in middle of the game and so the rumour spread that Iw as a hacker. I denied it but I also confirmed it to people. When iccup arrived I took it as a fresh start. I left the swedish community and changed nickname. Now I'm playing sc2 but before my switch I was in the ranks of B-/B on the ladder with apm of 265-285. I would never have acchieved this by using hacks.

Summary: Hacking is fun to some extent. To fully appreciate starcraft you should not hack but practice like a true gamer.

I regret that I hacked, because it haltered my success. But I will always remember that I only hacked because I gained something from it, when it didn't give me anything good anymore I stopped.

Once a hacker does not mean you're always a hacker.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
September 21 2010 18:44 GMT
#31
Very nice blog. Keep them coming.

I actually hacked back in .09 days when I was pretty newb still. Admittedly it made me a better player overall. It helps with learning timings, and I grew confidence in my game. I haven't hacked since, and never plan to again.

It's just funny looking back on it, and how I view hackers today.
Not bad for a cat toy.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
September 21 2010 19:00 GMT
#32
Lot longer then I expected and a lot more interesting then i expected. Good read.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
September 21 2010 19:16 GMT
#33
Awesome read... this reminded me of the recent abuse attempts made by some really high profile members of teamliquid in the TSL like Advocate and F91...
intoyourrainbOW
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States168 Posts
September 21 2010 19:17 GMT
#34
hypothetical scenario: A person enjoys playing BW, but has severely arthritic fingers. Playing BW is very painful for him, especially when he plays Terran. He is at a physical disadvantage, but manually improving his mechanics would worsen his medical condition. One day he used multicommand and selection hack and it allowed him enjoy BW while greatly reducing physical pain. So, is it fair for people with physical handicaps to play BW without hacks?
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
September 21 2010 20:01 GMT
#35
Very good article thanks!
I still remember how it was to find out that some of my bw heroes cheated :f or more accurately abused
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
September 21 2010 20:10 GMT
#36
On September 22 2010 04:17 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
hypothetical scenario: A person enjoys playing BW, but has severely arthritic fingers. Playing BW is very painful for him, especially when he plays Terran. He is at a physical disadvantage, but manually improving his mechanics would worsen his medical condition. One day he used multicommand and selection hack and it allowed him enjoy BW while greatly reducing physical pain. So, is it fair for people with physical handicaps to play BW without hacks?


I have some pretty big doubts that there are any grandma's playing Starcraft at that level. I have enough trouble trying to get mine to check email.

Regardless... thats like saying a person in a wheelchair can't run... so is it fair for them to race people in a motorized wheelchair?
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 21 2010 20:22 GMT
#37
Wow, I second that this is an incredible article. I'm gonna bookmark it and read the rest later, only got past counters.

I really hope hacking doesn't become as big as it did in BW.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
September 21 2010 20:26 GMT
#38
The perfect solution for the anti hack team is obviously to compete with the hack coders by releasing better hacks. and tracks everybody that uses their own hack, and then bust them all in one go. Just don't tell others that the hack/exploit was originally released by the anti hack team in the first place.

Yes it's a trap, but ppl shouldn't hack in the first place.

Oh wait come to think of it, didn't iccup do just that? and busted so many big names?
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
RedSword
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada53 Posts
September 21 2010 20:43 GMT
#39
On September 21 2010 18:09 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
Blizzard Entertainment has always taken cheating in any form in Blizzard games very seriously, and that's no different for StarCraft II. If a StarCraft II player is found to be cheating or using hacks or modifications in any form, then as outlined in our end user license agreement, that player can be permanently banned from the game. This means that the player will be permanently unable to log in to Battle.net to play StarCraft II with his or her account.


On September 21 2010 18:09 Gecko[Xp] wrote:
Update: Blizzard now gave a statement in which they told the community that hackers now get their accounts permanently banned when they use 3rd party software. The statement is shown below:


Difference. You can't play starcraft anymore, but your account still exist (WoW and other games).
pronesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States31 Posts
September 21 2010 21:03 GMT
#40
Great read. Nice to see that you've done a lot of research about hacking and anti-hacks and all.
Hopefully, hackers would be discouraged after reading this. :D
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