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On September 13 2010 02:44 Mumei wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 23:59 ella_guru wrote:
Yea those who rip on him about a boring style obviously havent bothered to watch a game of his this last season. Step 1: Flash makes perfect use of Terran's superior defensive options to hold back any early aggression and prevent scouting from the opponent while simultaneously getting the scouting information he needs to decide what he should do. Step 2: Flash monitors his opponent with periodic scans, and moves out at the perfect timing - when Flash has enough units to roll through his opponent unchallenged, and he wins. Most of the variations occur within this same basic framework. If the initial timing push doesn't work, and his opponent is able to get their third / fourth bases set up (assuming he is facing Zerg or Protoss), then Flash's games are really, really entertaining because it might become an exciting back-and-forth affair instead of a "Flash's opponent doesn't have enough units to safely attack Flash, so Flash is immune from attack, then Flash uses his superior macro to roll over his opponent 10 minutes into the game" affair. But most of the time Flash wins before that point, and I'm not really entertained seeing Flash just roll over his opponent's with timing pushes. Maybe if I liked watching Terran play I'd enjoy it more, but for me most of his games are an exercise in frustration to watch. Edit: Just so I'm clear, I'm not explaining why Flash isn't entertaining, generally, or why other people shouldn't feel entertained, but why I don't enjoy his games as much.
Well you can't blame Flash for being so good that opponents roll over and die before they can even get a third base going .
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flah is amazing... if he wins WCG then starcraft should just be named FlashCraft from now on -_-
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He truely might be "The end of Starcraft", as in being the ultimate Brood War player before SC:BW slowly fades away and makes places for it's sequel to reign e-sports for the next ten years to come.
Mixed feelings there....mixed feelings....Damn, I just love both games soo much. May they live in coexistence for aeons!!! Oh yeah and Congrats to Flash, although I was rooting for Jaedong to be the first to ever win 4 OSL titles.
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On September 12 2010 18:27 Apex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2010 17:54 Mooncat wrote:On September 12 2010 17:29 a176 wrote:
I'd take it seriously.
He obviously lacks the entertainment value of past players. But you can't argue with the results. Bullshit. It's your opinion man, nothing else. Flash is the single most entertaining player to watch imho. That would qualify as Ggaemo/Hyuk. They're so bad it's funny. Hell, Hyuk even has his fails named after him. He hyuks himself.
Flash comebacks in FvT is pretty damn entertaining for me.
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I like God a lot more then Bonjwa. Fitting to create a new paradigm instead of relying on talks of yesterday
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On September 13 2010 00:08 dcberkeley wrote:
1) Whine about turtling
Flash stops turtling, starts being aggressive
2) Whine about cheese/BBS
Flash doesn't cheese, uses mech
3) Whine about tank imba
Flash uses only goliaths, wins game
4) Whine about mech imba
Flash uses M&Ms, wins game
Jaedong 4 pools!
5) GENIUS
Again!
6) Fucking SCVs
Counter cheese!
7) Gay cheese, bad maps
Flash wins on Zergliner
8) Whine about TvZ, imbalance of the game
No Terran in semis of either league? Remind people of Swarm Season
9) Whine about turtling
This needs more love
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On September 13 2010 04:54 Mortician wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 00:08 dcberkeley wrote:
1) Whine about turtling
Flash stops turtling, starts being aggressive
2) Whine about cheese/BBS
Flash doesn't cheese, uses mech
3) Whine about tank imba
Flash uses only goliaths, wins game
4) Whine about mech imba
Flash uses M&Ms, wins game
Jaedong 4 pools!
5) GENIUS
Again!
6) Fucking SCVs
Counter cheese!
7) Gay cheese, bad maps
Flash wins on Zergliner
8) Whine about TvZ, imbalance of the game
No Terran in semis of either league? Remind people of Swarm Season
9) Whine about turtling
This needs more love
I will second you.
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On September 13 2010 01:08 EternaLEnVy wrote:
Did oov not achive something better in terms of win rate when he first started?
Oov had like an 80% winrate against zerg and low 70%s vs the other races over about 100 games, give or take, when he was the indisputable best. At the very least he was similar to Flash.
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On September 13 2010 02:59 HeadhunteR wrote:
BEST PLAYER EVER PERIOD. Not the most successful that is Nada, not the most innovative/creative thats Boxer, not the best finalist that is Oov, not the most dominating with a "underpowered" race that is Savior, and the one that killed all the bonjwas that was jaedong, hell even jaedong has a better bo5 winrate but flash did all those things in one year NO ONE HAS done what flash did and that is the bottom line man. He may not play with super special flair but oov also didint and people hated him for it. Face it man he may be a cheeser a turtler but to be the best in the world you also have to cheese and you also have to use the map to your advantage.
You can't compare flash's cheese against jaedong's. JD probably cheesed half his last 15 games.
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On September 13 2010 05:00 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 04:54 Mortician wrote:On September 13 2010 00:08 dcberkeley wrote:
1) Whine about turtling
Flash stops turtling, starts being aggressive
2) Whine about cheese/BBS
Flash doesn't cheese, uses mech
3) Whine about tank imba
Flash uses only goliaths, wins game
4) Whine about mech imba
Flash uses M&Ms, wins game
Jaedong 4 pools!
5) GENIUS
Again!
6) Fucking SCVs
Counter cheese!
7) Gay cheese, bad maps
Flash wins on Zergliner
8) Whine about TvZ, imbalance of the game
No Terran in semis of either league? Remind people of Swarm Season
9) Whine about turtling
This needs more love I will second you.
nice nice nice <3
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is it just me but do all these people on flashes nuts get annoying after 20 threads?
User was temp banned for this post.
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On September 13 2010 00:08 dcberkeley wrote:
1) Whine about turtling
Flash stops turtling, starts being aggressive
2) Whine about cheese/BBS
Flash doesn't cheese, uses mech
3) Whine about tank imba
Flash uses only goliaths, wins game
4) Whine about mech imba
Flash uses M&Ms, wins game
Jaedong 4 pools!
5) GENIUS
Again!
6) Fucking SCVs
Counter cheese!
7) Gay cheese, bad maps
Flash wins on Zergliner
8) Whine about TvZ, imbalance of the game
No Terran in semis of either league? Remind people of Swarm Season
9) Whine about turtling
You are a genius
EDIT: @ Previous post:
Wine about people appreciating Flash's play
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On September 13 2010 01:32 Mania[K]al wrote:
Glad i stopped watching SC1.
Same 2 races(And people) in every final gets pretty boring.
Thank you ever so much for the enlightening post, I think they're missing your sunny outlook over on the SC2 forum.
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On September 13 2010 02:17 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 02:08 Boblion wrote:On September 13 2010 01:32 Mania[K]al wrote:
Glad i stopped watching SC1.
Same 2 races(And people) in every final gets pretty boring. We see a lot of zergs in the final in Sc2 that's for sure :3 Derp, last season people cried about double zvz Now people cry about flash and jaedong playing, guess haters' gonna hate
This.
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So what does this make effort? He defeated god in a BO5 without the help of poweroutage.
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On September 13 2010 07:04 prototype. wrote:
So what does this make effort? He defeated god in a BO5 without the help of poweroutage.
He summoned up the dark power of kwanro to his side. kwanro is also a very powerful god.
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On September 13 2010 07:04 prototype. wrote:
So what does this make effort? He defeated god in a BO5 without the help of poweroutage.
A modern day chojja?
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Why can't we has multiple gods? Polytheism is cool. The heavens of Mount Olympus rage between the battles of July, the God of War, and Boxer, the Terran Emperor.
Flashius and Jaedong face off. All life on Earth pauses to watch.
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On September 13 2010 07:09 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 07:04 prototype. wrote:
So what does this make effort? He defeated god in a BO5 without the help of poweroutage. He summoned up the dark power of kwanro to his side. kwanro is also a very powerful god.
hoping to see more kwanro next proleague! love the guy
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On September 13 2010 07:23 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Why can't we has multiple gods? Polytheism is cool. The heavens of Mount Olympus rage between the battles of July, the God of War, and Boxer, the Terran Emperor.
Flashius and Jaedong face off. All life on Earth pauses to watch.
Monotheism is retarded, following rules and respecting demands of so called prophets and their books shaping up your entire life, etc /off-topic. So i'm with you, it really fits well with the BW scene, battles and rivalry of gods, that's sublime.
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