EPTHwaseung Oz's Manager Cho Jung Woong retires. - Page 4
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KristianJS
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nurle
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Lucumo
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On September 03 2010 20:44 KristianJS wrote: Honestly, the fact that he left just one week before OSL finals makes me reather keen to believe the rumours that he was actually fired. Yeah, and if it's true...he was even fired before the MSL finals -.- | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
Maybe CJ to be #2 zerg? | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On September 03 2010 14:52 ArvickHero wrote: Eh, he sucked as a coach anyways, good for Oz I'd say. Pusan, Anytime, Jaedong, Hiya, fOrGG 5 all except Hiya and Pusan has a title, but all has left their mark on the scene and both are / were really good. Probally more, but thats 5 GOOD players on top of my head. | ||
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Pvvned
United States409 Posts
 Killer in the ace matches instead of Jaedong | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On September 03 2010 22:09 Iplaythings wrote: Pusan, Anytime, Jaedong, Hiya, fOrGG 5 all except Hiya and Pusan has a title, but all has left their mark on the scene and both are / were really good. Probally more, but thats 5 GOOD players on top of my head. I give zero credit to coach Cho for making Jaedong and Anytime good. A coach will never be able to fully teach someone with the talent of Jaedong and Flash, those players are just too good. Rather, a coach leaves his mark imo by maximizing the potential of those who have lesser skills and by putting them to good use with proper conditioning and strategy in proleague. The reason why CJ's coach Cho is so revered is because he can take players from the ground and build them into A-class talent. | ||
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s.a.y
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Antisocialmunky
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Tanatos
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On September 03 2010 22:31 setzer wrote: I give zero credit to coach Cho for making Jaedong and Anytime good. A coach will never be able to fully teach someone with the talent of Jaedong and Flash, those players are just too good. Rather, a coach leaves his mark imo by maximizing the potential of those who have lesser skills and by putting them to good use with proper conditioning and strategy in proleague. The reason why CJ's coach Cho is so revered is because he can take players from the ground and build them into A-class talent. When Jaedong first joined his team, rumour has it that even his coach was able to defeat him from time to time. He would not have been able to gain such heavy television exposure on some of the other teams so early into his career. All payers need proper grooming to succeed, regardless of their innate talent or work ethic. Just a thought. I'm not particularly interested in the business of managing a team, but even as a casual viewer of some of the documentaries that covered the inside stories of how these teams operate, I could see that Coach Cho played an immense part in the growth of many of his players under his wing. I don't think it's up to you to judge how much credit he deserves for his players' personal success or how much he failed to progress some of the others that failed to realize their potential without knowing the full story. None of us can. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
LOL And wow, what is with everyone retiring :< Coach Cho was amazing and like jaedong's favorite | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On September 03 2010 23:23 Letmelose wrote: When Jaedong first joined his team, rumour has it that even his coach was able to defeat him from time to time. He would not have been able to gain such heavy television exposure on some of the other teams so early into his career. All payers need proper grooming to succeed, regardless of their innate talent or work ethic. Just a thought. I'm not particularly interested in the business of managing a team, but even as a casual viewer of some of the documentaries that covered the inside stories of how these teams operate, I could see that Coach Cho played an immense part in the growth of many of his players under his wing. I don't think it's up to you to judge how much credit he deserves for his players' personal success or how much he failed to progress some of the others that failed to realize their potential without knowing the full story. None of us can. You're right, i don't know the inner workings, however I do know this: -In the last two seasons Jaedong has been the only reliable player and the only player who has over 50% winrate (until Hiya recently) -Dubious proleague strategies -Innability to develop a protoss lineup after an always injured Backho -Lack of quality draft picks and free agency -Kicked forgg out the door I don't know if that rumour of yours is true or not, but I do know the things above are correct and this decision was long overdue. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On September 03 2010 23:39 setzer wrote: You're right, i don't know the inner workings, however I do know this: -In the last two seasons Jaedong has been the only reliable player and the only player who has over 50% winrate (until Hiya recently) -Dubious proleague strategies -Innability to develop a protoss lineup after an always injured Backho -Lack of quality draft picks and free agency -Kicked forgg out the door I don't know if that rumour of yours is true or not, but I do know the things above are correct and this decision was long overdue. Cho Coach had built up a legacy that shadows some of his shortcomings you listed above. PLUS used to be the weakest team in the Proleague. Coach Cho and Anytime surprised everyone in the scene when a player that was from a team not even regarded as a proper professional one by some of the people was able to conquer the most prestigious tournament in the scene. He managed to gain sponsorship, provide back-up for his main man Anytime, and eventually made his name as one of the most successful coaches around. Not bad for someone who was in charge of a team that was constantly on the brink of disbanding. I don't have much interest in the issue, I'm just saying that here's a man who did some pretty remarkable things during his tenure, and perhaps deserves a little respect regardless of the things he did that were not in your taste. | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On September 03 2010 22:31 setzer wrote: I give zero credit to coach Cho for making Jaedong and Anytime good. A coach will never be able to fully teach someone with the talent of Jaedong and Flash, those players are just too good. Rather, a coach leaves his mark imo by maximizing the potential of those who have lesser skills and by putting them to good use with proper conditioning and strategy in proleague. The reason why CJ's coach Cho is so revered is because he can take players from the ground and build them into A-class talent. I am pretty sure Jaedong would have never become such a great player in any other team. The coach and JD have a father-son relationsship, hell JD cried and played horribly during the FA affair. | ||
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