[GG99]Slayer documentry - Page 15

On July 10 2008 05:29 peetah wrote:
I'm here to bump!

Today, I discovered that Alias:Slayer actually is uploaded on YouTube. As for you who don't know what kind of movie this is, it's a documentary about a great norwegian player named Slayer that travel to Korea in 2001 to participate in the KBK-tournament.

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Part 3:

On July 10 2008 08:43 Elric_ wrote:
... I wonder what Slayer is doing now.... :|

On July 10 2008 09:10 InfeSteD[rA] wrote:
...What happened to this frederick kid? Sorry for my ignorance anyone has a little more information on him? Anything else after this tournament?

On July 10 2008 09:41 Epicfailguy wrote:
He was offered a contract, but didnt take it, because he wanted a safe education at home.
Then he had to serve the one year mandatory military service that norway has, and during that time, he bought a couple of poker books, and studied poker for a while, and I think he's making a good amount of money on it.

I THINK I saw him on the nordic poker tourmanent, but cant remember exactly..it was a while ago.

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There must be at least 4-5 ex professional gamers who have pulled in more than seven figures from poker. My good friend Kirderf (ex Broodwar WCG Champion) is one of them and in my opinion is one of the best and most consistent online players in the world, he certainly meets this criteria many times over. Other ex gamers who I know have had some success in poker are Elky, Rekrul, Nazgul, TheBusDriver, Ackbleh, Bushman, Lakerman, 4K.Kaj, NTT, RainKhan, Maynard, IceGod, Groinal, Daishi, Xds’Grrrrr, Nitemare and scores of others whose names escape me right now.

The skills that are transferable from gaming to poker are probably the qualities of obsession and dedication. You can’t reach the highest tiers of competitiveness in gaming without a regime of several hours of practice every day. The same dedication is required in poker. Another advantage for ex gamers will be the ability to multi task more naturally than non gamers thus enabling them to play more tables more easily and deal with multiple decision situations more competently.

One part of gaming that is not easily transferable to poker is the competitive angle, the feeling of being able to sit down at your game and “own” your opponent because you are better. This satisfaction of being able to see instant results is completely missing from poker and is something that I miss. I am also sure it is something that many ex gamers struggle with probably having contributed to them leaking thousands of dollars before it is programmed into them that this feeling can no longer be satisfied from poker.

Also, is there something in particular about Starcraft/Warcraft or can this be extended more generally to people who put lots of time in with computer games of other types? Would you recommend they try poker as something they might have natural aptitude for?

I am not sure how transferable the skills are because for every one gamer I can name that has managed the transition I can name ten others who either fail or struggle. I don’t recommend poker to anyone any more as I believe it is an incredible struggle and hardship for 9 out of 10 players who attempt it. I don’t want the likely outcome of my encouragement to be failure for that person.

Who do you regard as the most successful to crossover besides yourself and do they share similar attributes?

As I said above it is almost certainly Kirderf. We play virtually identical styles and I think have similar thought processes and approaches to the game. This makes sense as we have discussed and talked about poker strategy together for several years. He epitomises Discipline, the single most important skill for a poker player to master. One day I hope to achieve this level of discipline with no leaks from tilt or frustration whatsoever. I am getting closer all the time =)

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On July 11 2008 02:30 ret wrote:
white-ra was never top of the crop till like 2005 or so (and he was never the best gamer), that's a very bad comparison. Mondragon is a relatively 'old' gamer these days and he's still doin good. If old gamers never quit this game they would've still been on top I think. Exception are maybe some players who were succesfull only because of their unpredictableness and creative strategies. But most old gamers back in the day also had basic macro skills :p
I wish all these legends still played.

I speak about the foreign scene here. In Korea, it's obviously different..

On July 11 2008 02:16 Ghardo wrote:
but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.)

On July 11 2008 23:58 meRz wrote:


Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04

Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year.

On July 12 2008 00:30 Naib wrote:


I remember that, I watched the nordic WCG closely as I was rooting for my (TE) teammates (that time being Gos-Chaso, a swedish terran who retired shortly thereafter iirc, and Arcneon, whom you might now as today's iG.Madclaw, a finnish protoss). I was amazed at Slayer's play, having only heard about him before (2002 was before my time of online SC), knowing he didn't practice at all those past two years...

He is some real talent, I tell ya