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GTR-2-Go_au
Profile Joined February 2004
Australia315 Posts
June 13 2004 08:39 GMT
#1
http://home.halden.net/sunewing/aliasslayer.avi

enjoy, but its 169 meg -_-;;; could someone please convert it to wmv or asf?
I got none.....
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
June 13 2004 08:41 GMT
#2
and then what, who the hell is gonna have 170megs of webspace to host that on? Or be willing to give to anybody for someone else to host.
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
June 13 2004 08:43 GMT
#3
what language is it in?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 08:43 GMT
#4
I do!!!! but I'll never spend a day uploading it
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 08:51 GMT
#5
and the purpose of making it in those formats would be to stream it, or watch it while it downloads off your hdd
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 09:00:15
June 13 2004 08:54 GMT
#6
this looks kinda cool actually..someone who speaks that language (eri?) needs to make some SOFT SUBS!!

sven in it too :o

lol, even maynard
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
gunkyman
Profile Joined November 2003
United States98 Posts
June 13 2004 08:54 GMT
#7
I think he wants someone to do a re-encode at a lower quality to reduce the filesize...
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
June 13 2004 09:01 GMT
#8
I'm inclined to say it's old, however EXTREMELY good. Last half of the video they mostly speak english, if you have not yet seen this, WATCH IT NOW!
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AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
June 13 2004 09:03 GMT
#9
d/ling!
Nemesis has left the building~
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 09:06:52
June 13 2004 09:04 GMT
#10
Yeah, I wish someone would translate the "leksons" from sven, i'm guessing that means lesson lool

Imagine that pressure he had to be under having a cam crew follow him around on his trip, on top of competeing in such a big tournament, and having people around him watch. But I guess his family watched him play at home, so it wasn't that bad..I wish my family showed me that kind of supporT! T_T
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
June 13 2004 09:10 GMT
#11
The question I want to ask, is that NTT that tells Slayer "You should be nervous, you just won like $5000 or something"; if not, who is it :O!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 13 2004 09:10 GMT
#12
I could probably translate it if I knew how to make softsubs :D Though a norweigan would be better I guess
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 09:12 GMT
#13
Grrrr- "He's the fastest player here! look at his hands! how does he do that?!"
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
GTR-2-Go_au
Profile Joined February 2004
Australia315 Posts
June 13 2004 09:12 GMT
#14
hasuwar still wanna play that basketball game? -_-;;

i was very surprised at the size, 169meg for a 30min video file, must be quality etc. i thought it was somewhere from 50meg-100meg ><
I got none.....
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 09:13 GMT
#15
I'm watching this video :D Yeah, that looks like NTT telling him he just won 5k
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
June 13 2004 09:19 GMT
#16
damn it... codecs is messing it up. someone help!
GulleFjuN@Europe
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
June 13 2004 09:29 GMT
#17
Cool! I understand swedish very well and norwegian is just like swedish but spoken like with a pound of cheese in your throat and many yodling sounds.
-.-
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
June 13 2004 09:33 GMT
#18
On June 13 2004 18:29 Hot77.iEy wrote:
Cool! I understand swedish very well and norwegian is just like swedish but spoken like with a pound of cheese in your throat and many yodling sounds.


lol, yeah norwegian and danish is just plain weird gogo swedish
zzzzzz
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
June 13 2004 10:00 GMT
#19
doesnt need to be in streaming format to watch while it downloads.. i just do a search string for it on the temp files and it comes up, and watch that..
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
June 13 2004 10:01 GMT
#20
tnere is no need to convert it in those formats if you use VLC.
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
June 13 2004 10:13 GMT
#21
its says conecting and its taking years
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 10:14 GMT
#22
that's because you're trying to stream it, which avi can't be streamed, and it's trying to download the whole movie, then open it.. right click, save as.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
June 13 2004 10:18 GMT
#23
watched it now... pretty funny =]

i guess he was pretty nervous at that time
GulleFjuN@Europe
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
June 13 2004 10:36 GMT
#24
On June 13 2004 19:01 NoNameLoser wrote:
there is no need to convert it in those formats if you use VLC.


by this i meant that not only vlc plays all avi files but also can view them without need to download. However, the source must provide bandwidth equivalent to total bitrate otherwise you need to download the file first, which is the case here.
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
June 13 2004 10:58 GMT
#25
Looking forward to a Fully englihs SC documantry

I think it shoud be easier since we have Leg Giyom Assem and Rekrul is on his way
My life is so hard :(
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
June 13 2004 10:58 GMT
#26
rofl, i'll host it, i'm downloading it right now
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
June 13 2004 11:00 GMT
#27
On June 13 2004 18:10 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I could probably translate it if I knew how to make softsubs :D Though a norweigan would be better I guess


Wtf Arbiter, you can barely understand ME when I speak Norwegian.
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
June 13 2004 11:21 GMT
#28
great documentary, but norwegian is close to impossible to understand

especially liked when slayer met maynard for the first time at the venue where there is a lot of computers and slayer has sat down at one of them..
(slayer)-hi, are you maynard (holds out his hand to shake hand with maynard)
(maynard)-dude, you are using my computer!!
(slayer)-sorry, they said it was ok.. (looks uncomfortable)

rofl
zzzzzz
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 11:38 GMT
#29
On June 13 2004 20:00 Born)Slippy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 18:10 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I could probably translate it if I knew how to make softsubs :D Though a norweigan would be better I guess


Wtf Arbiter, you can barely understand ME when I speak Norwegian.


You just volunteered yourself to make soft subs, thanks!
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 11:43:59
June 13 2004 11:43 GMT
#30
Haha it's funny how slayers looked pretty pale throughout the whole Korea's travel :D
It would be funnier to see what they're all talking too.
Also Sven, it was the first time i see him at a close distance. I never imagined he would be like a good looking person. :p

Anyway this documentary rox fo sho
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Talith
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1102 Posts
June 13 2004 12:01 GMT
#31
haha sVEN was the fucking man, loved watching him play! ^^;. Can't wait to watch it, NTT, SLAyer, sVEN, Maynard?! OMG, old schoolers rock! ^^
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
June 13 2004 12:09 GMT
#32
slayer was ahead of his time
JAM THE FUCKER!
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
June 13 2004 12:36 GMT
#33
SOFT SUBS PLZ
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
DickDodgers
Profile Joined May 2004
62 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 13:35:45
June 13 2004 12:54 GMT
#34
[EDIT: No. - mensrea]

Actually its 100% true. The whole scene was acted. The meeting occured prior to that off camera.

EDIT #2: That's not what I meant. - mensrea
GrandSmurf
Profile Joined July 2003
Netherlands462 Posts
June 13 2004 13:05 GMT
#35
forgive my ignorance, but how do i watch this. media player doesnt seem to work for me
One time that happened and I just stopped everything, selected the offending SCV, hit Cancel, moved it over to my Barracks, made a Marine, had the Marine shoot it to death, then left the game.
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
June 13 2004 13:12 GMT
#36
you need the following codecs:

divx mpeg-4 low motion
fraunhofer iis mpeg layer-3 codec

filemirror.com this:

klcodec225f.exe

it's around 8 megs
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
June 13 2004 13:12 GMT
#37
*filemirrors.com
JAM THE FUCKER!
DickDodgers
Profile Joined May 2004
62 Posts
June 13 2004 13:25 GMT
#38
Slayer is the best BW player ever.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10533 Posts
June 13 2004 13:40 GMT
#39
On June 13 2004 22:25 DickDodgers wrote:
Slayer is the best BW player ever.

Im back, in pog form!
DickDodgers
Profile Joined May 2004
62 Posts
June 13 2004 13:43 GMT
#40
On June 13 2004 22:40 baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 22:25 DickDodgers wrote:
Slayer is the best BW player ever.


Meaning?
He absolutely is.
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
June 13 2004 13:49 GMT
#41
On June 13 2004 22:43 DickDodgers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 22:40 baal wrote:
On June 13 2004 22:25 DickDodgers wrote:
Slayer is the best BW player ever.


Meaning?
He absolutely is.


DickDodgers
Profile Joined May 2004
62 Posts
June 13 2004 13:51 GMT
#42
On June 13 2004 22:49 tiffany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 22:43 DickDodgers wrote:
On June 13 2004 22:40 baal wrote:
On June 13 2004 22:25 DickDodgers wrote:
Slayer is the best BW player ever.


Meaning?
He absolutely is.




I don't appreciate you guys denying slayers greatness.
Zerius[TPR]
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1633 Posts
June 13 2004 13:56 GMT
#43
On June 13 2004 22:51 DickDodgers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 22:49 tiffany wrote:
On June 13 2004 22:43 DickDodgers wrote:
On June 13 2004 22:40 baal wrote:
On June 13 2004 22:25 DickDodgers wrote:
Slayer is the best BW player ever.


Meaning?
He absolutely is.




I don't appreciate you guys denying slayers greatness.


where from you, circus?
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7216 Posts
June 13 2004 14:03 GMT
#44
Entusman #12
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 14:14:59
June 13 2004 14:10 GMT
#45
Was that Nal_Ra smoking while playing in the 1st game room near the begging?
Never Knows Best.
Zerius[TPR]
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1633 Posts
June 13 2004 14:15 GMT
#46
You guys ruined the chain, bastards. =[
where from you, circus?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 13 2004 14:27 GMT
#47
Did he lose the final game? or what?
Never Knows Best.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 13 2004 14:33 GMT
#48
Slayer is the best BW player ever. He was the best i've ever seen by a longshot and i've seen all the Korean pros you all speak of. If he had the desire to be a pro in Korea he would of dominated as Boxer did.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
June 13 2004 14:35 GMT
#49
The Man has spoken.

I think people should listen to him.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 13 2004 14:36 GMT
#50
=D
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
June 13 2004 14:45 GMT
#51
On the last part, did he win? I was confused because I don't know if he plays terran or zerg. I think I remember him playing both in some reps.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 13 2004 14:49 GMT
#52
On June 13 2004 23:45 FiGhtAsBlind wrote:
On the last part, did he win? I was confused because I don't know if he plays terran or zerg. I think I remember him playing both in some reps.


Yes he won.
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
June 13 2004 15:00 GMT
#53
Maynard, care to write a long and sexy post to educate all us non-oldschoolers as to why that is so?

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Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 15:13:31
June 13 2004 15:11 GMT
#54
On June 14 2004 00:00 radiaL wrote:
Maynard, care to write a long and sexy post to educate all us non-oldschoolers as to why that is so?



About to go to bed maybe tomorrow. I regret not keeping a detailed journal while in Korea. It would of served so many well. A detailed description of my experiences after the fact would of been nice as well.

Lets just say that his creativity and instinct was on another level.

hasu
Profile Joined January 2004
Bulgaria79 Posts
June 13 2004 15:19 GMT
#55
DL is worthing at least because of seeing NTT
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
June 13 2004 15:29 GMT
#56
check out the video at time 22:39

is that elky on the left ??
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
June 13 2004 15:34 GMT
#57
Ill download it when I come home
NoCleanFeed.com
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
June 13 2004 15:56 GMT
#58
On June 14 2004 00:19 hasu wrote:
DL is worthing at least because of seeing NTT




which one is NTT? i neva seen a pic of him or anything plz point out !!
My life is so hard :(
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 13 2004 16:05 GMT
#59
i'll do the subs if someone can point me to a program for softsubs, and a host -_-
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Zerius[TPR]
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1633 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 16:27:53
June 13 2004 16:27 GMT
#60
Maynard, trim those eyebrows

also, I noticed you dont have a texan accent? odd?
where from you, circus?
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 16:51 GMT
#61
I'll host them, I don't know what prog to use to make tho
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
June 13 2004 17:24 GMT
#62
anybody mentioned the elky cameo at about 22 30 yet?
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
June 13 2004 17:35 GMT
#63
heres an app for soft subs. i've used it before for hours of video and it's served me well. http://www.divxland.org/subtitler.htm
I put the fu in fun
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
June 13 2004 17:37 GMT
#64
casper, does that pack allow me to uninstall DIVX so I don't have to have the crappy adware that goes with it?
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
June 13 2004 17:58 GMT
#65
Still won't open for me, I installed the codec package. Was I supposed to save as?
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
TanGo
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden1019 Posts
June 13 2004 18:17 GMT
#66
I can encode it to about 60 MB i think, and even lower if you want shitty VOD quality, but I am not really sure... I'll have to check it first. Btw, it would take about 3 h of encoding to do that ^^
Kram
emerton
Profile Joined April 2004
Norway167 Posts
June 13 2004 19:06 GMT
#67
This old post is unavailable due to an encoding issue. Please contact an admin if you would like this post restored for historical reasons.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 13 2004 19:18 GMT
#68
On June 14 2004 04:06 emerton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 01:05 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
i'll do the subs if someone can point me to a program for softsubs, and a host -_-


lager du subs? hvis ikke kan jeg gjre det.


Da kan egentlig du f gleden, jeg skal flytte i morgen og skrive SKY reports p onsdag, s det hadde passet bra

ModeratorFather of bunnies
emerton
Profile Joined April 2004
Norway167 Posts
June 13 2004 19:30 GMT
#69
det er greit. ganske mye arbeid tho
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
June 13 2004 19:33 GMT
#70
heh... didn't anyone find it funny when Sven made dual Science Fascilities on the "starcraft lessons".. and did it so obvious next to each other -.-

Bye!
GulleFjuN@Europe
TanGo
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden1019 Posts
June 13 2004 19:42 GMT
#71
Cya
Kram
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
June 13 2004 19:48 GMT
#72
okay I got it to work, was pretty cool really. I heard he is coming back or something? I wonder if he'll go for it again.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 13 2004 19:58 GMT
#73
i heard slayer is going to wcg - not sure tho.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Typhoon
Profile Joined April 2004
196 Posts
June 13 2004 19:58 GMT
#74
--- Nuked ---
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
June 13 2004 19:59 GMT
#75
On June 14 2004 00:29 L!MP wrote:
check out the video at time 22:39

is that elky on the left ??


yap^^
jeremy clarkson = god
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
June 13 2004 20:25 GMT
#76
what a codec error ? When i try to play it I just get sound and that error.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 13 2004 20:25 GMT
#77
google, type in GSpot, download it, run it on the avi, see which codec you are missing
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
June 13 2004 20:36 GMT
#78
On June 14 2004 05:25 hasuwar wrote:
google, type in GSpot, download it, run it on the avi, see which codec you are missing


Thx, I think I did it right DIV3 I think is missing. Does that sound right?You just d/l it and open the Vod right? That 4CC thing is the missing codec thingy Yes? If so how do i replace it?
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 13 2004 20:39 GMT
#79
On June 13 2004 23:33 Maynard wrote:
Slayer is the best BW player ever. He was the best i've ever seen by a longshot and i've seen all the Korean pros you all speak of. If he had the desire to be a pro in Korea he would of dominated as Boxer did.


micro soft, macro hard
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
June 13 2004 20:59 GMT
#80
The server keeps kicking me off. WTF? I have to resume transfer every like 10 seconds. I'll do it, though, only like 10 mb left.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 13 2004 20:59 GMT
#81
On June 13 2004 20:00 Born)Slippy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 18:10 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I could probably translate it if I knew how to make softsubs :D Though a norweigan would be better I guess


Wtf Arbiter, you can barely understand ME when I speak Norwegian.

I can :O Sven's norweigan > Slayers though Slayer didn't speak as clearly ^_^ Sven so easy to understand, slayer I understood just about everything, the text had weird font so it wasn't too easy but understood that too ;D
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MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 21:04:32
June 13 2004 21:03 GMT
#82
Great film...
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 13 2004 21:06 GMT
#83
On June 14 2004 06:03 MPXMX wrote:
Great film...

Indeed~
Whenever I see this kind of stuff or even just some program like monthly gamer on ongamenet.. I just wish I was there-- To me, it seems so perfect ; o
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Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
June 13 2004 21:22 GMT
#84
Everyone agrees he was best player ever. But what about him losing to Boxer 3-0? He wasn't active atm?
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
June 13 2004 21:25 GMT
#85
of course not everone agrees that he was the best player ever. But I think everyone agree that he was capable of being really good among the top koreans...

but it is only speculations, so it doesnt really matter anyway. The fact is that he isnt the greatest player of all time, and we all know it
GulleFjuN@Europe
Totoro
Profile Joined January 2003
France479 Posts
June 13 2004 21:26 GMT
#86
anyone to make subtitles? =)
=^-^=
NTT (yep)
Profile Joined March 2004
Netherlands5 Posts
June 13 2004 21:46 GMT
#87
I'm downloading right now! I remember having trouble playing this file a few years ago when it was first released on the website of the norwegian TV channel that made the documentary.

Thanks for the link!

-NTT
=].
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
June 13 2004 21:57 GMT
#88
No way.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 13 2004 22:07 GMT
#89
Brings back good or bad memories?
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
June 13 2004 22:16 GMT
#90
which one was NTT?
aka sunsHine
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 13 2004 22:18 GMT
#91
The guy who said "you just won $5000, you should be happy" or something like that, to Slayer.
NTT (yep)
Profile Joined March 2004
Netherlands5 Posts
June 13 2004 22:28 GMT
#92
I'm in the background in a few shots and yeah I'm the guy who said he just won $5000. It's interesting to me to see how I've changed over the years. This movie is 4+ years old, and I barely recognize myself.

It definitely brings back a lot of memories. ^_^;

Oh and Maynard is 100% correct in saying Slayer is the best BW player ever. From never having played SC to being the best at BW is a remarkable accomplishment.

-NTT

=].
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 13 2004 22:32 GMT
#93
Isn't it more like, he was the best? Or 'he is the most gifted player ever'? I mean.. Slayer back when he played wouldn't stand a chance vs the top players today if you just put 2001 (or whenever he played) slayer vs 2004 IloveOOv.

Btw, I think Garimto and Boxer should be considered for most talented player ever as well.. Especially Garimto who wasn't even a real pro ~_~
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Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
June 13 2004 22:36 GMT
#94
Why wasn't he?

And i think definitely Boxer brought soo many things to the game, he is undoubtedly the best ever. And as far as i know Grrr... owned the rest of the world for the longest period.
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 13 2004 22:36 GMT
#95
god damned 56k :[
why so 진지해?
ggt
Profile Joined December 2003
France58 Posts
June 13 2004 22:55 GMT
#96
very good documentry but we really need subtitles.

It's obvious in the documentry that he was offered to be progamer. But he refuses

hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-13 23:24:21
June 13 2004 23:05 GMT
#97
Having all these old pros post is giving me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Sven and Slayer supposedly started playing again, when will we see NTT enter the circuit?
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KhresT
Profile Joined June 2003
Brazil187 Posts
June 13 2004 23:25 GMT
#98
Best movie, perfect! Thx.

If someone do subtitles for english will rule the world!
Also Know As Keeper-Vikter @USEast @ Europe and VikteR @ West
i-Sonic
Profile Joined May 2004
152 Posts
June 13 2004 23:55 GMT
#99
sVEN was such a cutey trying to play a computer on lotem :D. I think he just wanted to show the basics to those who havent played and embarass himself to those who know the game :D. Slayer kicked intothrain's ass ;D. GoGoGO PwN

Where can we find that KBK 2000 vod download? Do they even have it anywhere?
God told John to come fourth and receive eternal life...but John came fifth and received a toaster.
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
June 13 2004 23:56 GMT
#100
When does NTT say he won 5k?

Time?
tomson
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland641 Posts
June 14 2004 00:04 GMT
#101
17:25

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tomsOn
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
June 14 2004 00:13 GMT
#102
k, thx!
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 14 2004 00:16 GMT
#103
Maybe second place was 5k? So he'd get 5k even if he lost
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MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-14 02:37:32
June 14 2004 00:21 GMT
#104
What were the results that tournament? Top 5, anyone? I remember NTT saying he didn't like the organization - from an interview, although maybe it was about some other kbk.
Talith
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1102 Posts
June 14 2004 00:44 GMT
#105
Heh, Slayer was amazing. Just like sVEN, etc.. all the other cute euro foreigners. Haha Guillaume was so cute, "he's the fastest, look at his hands move, pffffffffffff" LOL. His apm was prolly what? 200 or so in what they showed? Now we have people like Nada getting 300. But for that time in 2000, he had to just rock the world. How old was he though in that video? He looks like he cant be more than 18 or so O_O. Maynard you're so sexy in that video, <3!
Talith
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1102 Posts
June 14 2004 00:44 GMT
#106
oh yeah! you too Ntt
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
June 14 2004 00:46 GMT
#107
ive only met Slayer once, and he was a big dickhead. The chip on his shoulder was enormous. We played one game, and he was insulting me for no reason other then to state the obvious that i was newb compared to him. Btw I outscored sVen in the same game, and it happened to be one of the first replays i had ever saved. Die Slayer you skillful asshole =D
Twitt
Profile Joined December 2003
United States733 Posts
June 14 2004 00:51 GMT
#108
Slayer was a 280-300+ apm gamer back then as far as I know, which was sickenly fast to everyone else.
MAN CLAN FIGHTING INDEED!~
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 01:21 GMT
#109
On June 14 2004 09:51 Twitt wrote:
Slayer was a 280-300+ apm gamer back then as far as I know, which was sickenly fast to everyone else.

Except maybe arang
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Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 14 2004 01:42 GMT
#110
Slayer wasn't hotkeying his army, he was hotkeying only his buildings... try doing that with a huge mmf army against lurkers and stuff while also building from 10 rax with your hotkeys. Mr.X was saying he didn't want to watch Slayer play, because he could hardly see the cursor and it was making him feel sick and was also bad for his own confidence. He doesn't feel sick when he watches Didi, or Boxer or the other Koreans he saw at kbk and wcg, so that gives you an idea how fast Slayer was back then.

Just check Heaven's action distribution, if you think 400 apm with 50% hotkey is a fast player then yeah koreans are much faster than Slayer for you ;(. Also it's not just about action distribution but it matters if he's just clicking like a madman on one screen or multitasking well. Some people just have the natural speed, being a progamer and playing 10 hours a day can raise your speed a lot but not as much as having it in your genes
micro soft, macro hard
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 14 2004 01:52 GMT
#111
yeah..about the nada with 300apm comment. That's with a ton of hotkey usage..slayer was playing 250+ with mostly his mouse speed, not smashing his keyboard :O
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LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
June 14 2004 01:58 GMT
#112
checked my replay-pack of slayer, on those 62 games, he had an average apm of 218..

GulleFjuN@Europe
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
June 14 2004 02:10 GMT
#113
Terato is damn fast too (with his mouse I mean) and he doesn't have thath much either, 180/200.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 14 2004 02:35 GMT
#114
Yep, a few old school gamers (mainly boxer and gg99) have like 20% hotkeys and 250-300 apm, which makes them look faster than the usual lot with about 50% hotkeys.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 02:47 GMT
#115
On June 14 2004 10:52 hasuwar wrote:
yeah..about the nada with 300apm comment. That's with a ton of hotkey usage..slayer was playing 250+ with mostly his mouse speed, not smashing his keyboard :O

Which is the same as boxer of today/past 2 years o_O (though maybe not at the time of slayers reign)
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Kpone
Profile Joined December 2003
France167 Posts
June 14 2004 03:06 GMT
#116
On June 14 2004 10:42 Breeze wrote:
Slayer wasn't hotkeying his army, he was hotkeying only his buildings... try doing that with a huge mmf army against lurkers and stuff while also building from 10 rax with your hotkeys. Mr.X was saying he didn't want to watch Slayer play, because he could hardly see the cursor and it was making him feel sick and was also bad for his own confidence. He doesn't feel sick when he watches Didi, or Boxer or the other Koreans he saw at kbk and wcg, so that gives you an idea how fast Slayer was back then.

Just check Heaven's action distribution, if you think 400 apm with 50% hotkey is a fast player then yeah koreans are much faster than Slayer for you ;(. Also it's not just about action distribution but it matters if he's just clicking like a madman on one screen or multitasking well. Some people just have the natural speed, being a progamer and playing 10 hours a day can raise your speed a lot but not as much as having it in your genes


How can anyone micro mm/tank/vessel without hotkey ?????? i really don't understand. Even with fast mouse stimming and avoiding lurkers with 2/3 dozen of rine must a real pain in the ass.
damn i fucked up this one...gg.....re?? ^^
Kpone
Profile Joined December 2003
France167 Posts
June 14 2004 03:08 GMT
#117
in TvP i could understand but in TvZ wtf ?? if he was able to micro like boxer/NaDa without hotkey then he wasn't human.
damn i fucked up this one...gg.....re?? ^^
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 14 2004 03:29 GMT
#118
I might be wrong about that one, it's from what people who saw him were saying. Now I checked some of his reps (of course played much later than kbk) and he's using hotkeys for army too in them
micro soft, macro hard
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
June 14 2004 03:33 GMT
#119
he did hotkey units sometimes, mutas z v z/teamgames, wraiths etc

he had a strange way of using his hand on the keyboard, like:
left little finger on the left control and the thumb all the way by 0, o, p etc

Nada, Xellos etc is simply faster though, but it was shocking to see in a time where most of the other top players had way less than 200. Elky was actually one of the slowest people i have ever seen when i saw him play, no way he had over 120-130 at that time.
Boxer used to be almost as fast with the mouse at that time, but Slayer had a LOT better accuracy, that's what made it so fast.
h e l l o e
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
June 14 2004 03:51 GMT
#120
On June 14 2004 12:06 Kpone wrote:


How can anyone micro mm/tank/vessel without hotkey ?????? i really don't understand. Even with fast mouse stimming and avoiding lurkers with 2/3 dozen of rine must a real pain in the ass.

that's why slayer's a legend
Nemesis has left the building~
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
June 14 2004 03:53 GMT
#121
On June 14 2004 09:21 MPXMX wrote:
What were the results that tournament? Top 5, anyone? I remember NTT saying he didn't like the organization - from an interview, although maybe it was about some other kbk.


i think NTT meant the preliminary qualification organization of the KBK. i remember he said something like everyone cheated and created multiple accounts or play only with the same ppl.
Nemesis has left the building~
Hoops
Profile Joined April 2004
417 Posts
June 14 2004 06:37 GMT
#122
Looked to me like he had pretty long hands, kinda looked too big for his twiggish body. That probally helped a lot if he was leaving his pinky at the ctrl and thumb at 0.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 14 2004 06:53 GMT
#123
Oh the good ol days before everything was totally ruined by replays. The horrible have become good and the good have become great all by copying players such as slayer.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28608 Posts
June 14 2004 06:59 GMT
#124
I remember when I first watched slayer play irl, met him at this lan party called the gathering right before he won kbk.

I quit trying to become good afterwards because his speed convinced me I could never become as good as him no matter how much I practiced.
and he wasn't only fast either, but also really smart! (and if not for the fact that he quit playing for almost 2 years, I would never have been as good as him either. )

im in agreement with everyone claiming he was the best/most talented ever.

and he gave me a coke woohoo that was such a happy moment
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Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 14 2004 07:07 GMT
#125
On June 14 2004 15:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I remember when I first watched slayer play irl, met him at this lan party called the gathering right before he won kbk.

I quit trying to become good afterwards because his speed convinced me I could never become as good as him no matter how much I practiced.
and he wasn't only fast either, but also really smart! (and if not for the fact that he quit playing for almost 2 years, I would never have been as good as him either. )

im in agreement with everyone claiming he was the best/most talented ever.

and he gave me a coke woohoo that was such a happy moment


I think a distinction needs to be made between apm(the gold standard here) and the speed someone like slayer had. APM means you click buttons and keys very fast. I've seen some players who hands move like crazy and click like mad sometimes, example smuft and chrh, but thats all their speed really entails, telling an scv to move to a location 60 times, flipping back hotkey groups 1-2-3-4-5-6 over and over and over. I would regularly see these plays make mistakes because they were busy "being fast". These people should not be considered "fast" despite their apm numbers. Slayer was extremely fast without all that filler bullcrap.

Seriously why does everyone here get on an apm kick as if its the final word? Shouldnt too high of an apm make you think that there is a lot of useless clicking that could distract from gameplay?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 14 2004 07:07 GMT
#126
eri vs slayer finals wcg norway04 GO
why so 진지해?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2004 07:08 GMT
#127
Maynard you look like such a jolly fellow in that video
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 14 2004 07:11 GMT
#128
I saw myself and I think i come off as a homosexual. Unfortunately not one of those nicely dressed, clean, and articulate homosexuals.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 14 2004 07:12 GMT
#129
haha
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 14 2004 07:13 GMT
#130
hahahaha
why so 진지해?
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5413 Posts
June 14 2004 07:14 GMT
#131
On June 14 2004 16:07 Maynard wrote:
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On June 14 2004 15:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I remember when I first watched slayer play irl, met him at this lan party called the gathering right before he won kbk.

I quit trying to become good afterwards because his speed convinced me I could never become as good as him no matter how much I practiced.
and he wasn't only fast either, but also really smart! (and if not for the fact that he quit playing for almost 2 years, I would never have been as good as him either. )

im in agreement with everyone claiming he was the best/most talented ever.

and he gave me a coke woohoo that was such a happy moment


I think a distinction needs to be made between apm(the gold standard here) and the speed someone like slayer had. APM means you click buttons and keys very fast. I've seen some players who hands move like crazy and click like mad sometimes, example smuft and chrh, but thats all their speed really entails, telling an scv to move to a location 60 times, flipping back hotkey groups 1-2-3-4-5-6 over and over and over. I would regularly see these plays make mistakes because they were busy "being fast". These people should not be considered "fast" despite their apm numbers. Slayer was extremely fast without all that filler bullcrap.

Seriously why does everyone here get on an apm kick as if its the final word? Shouldnt too high of an apm make you think that there is a lot of useless clicking that could distract from gameplay?


amen... my friend went to a LAN, his APM is like 70-80, and he was beating players that were 180+ (this was in war3, but the same logic still applies) saying that 180+ APM users repeat the same action needlessly, like move herex20... what's the point? move herex1, new unit etc...

i know most people dont right click the same action x20, but still, i'm sure some people do to make it look like their APM is so high =/
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-14 07:26:07
June 14 2004 07:25 GMT
#132
I seriously cant get over how homosexual i look and sound. I need to act more macho.

Hopefully ive changed since then.

=[
emerton
Profile Joined April 2004
Norway167 Posts
June 14 2004 07:27 GMT
#133
i have made subs. i will post it tomorrow.
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
June 14 2004 07:47 GMT
#134
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
much thanks!
Nemesis has left the building~
i-Sonic
Profile Joined May 2004
152 Posts
June 14 2004 07:55 GMT
#135
i beat slayer on stargate a month ago im proud for his tvp now is :/. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

sVEN bitch slapped me like i owed him money . He seemed like he never quit.
God told John to come fourth and receive eternal life...but John came fifth and received a toaster.
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
June 14 2004 08:02 GMT
#136
On June 14 2004 16:27 emerton wrote:
i have made subs. i will post it tomorrow.


hurry and post that
Totoro
Profile Joined January 2003
France479 Posts
June 14 2004 08:07 GMT
#137
On June 14 2004 17:02 FadeToChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 16:27 emerton wrote:
i have made subs. i will post it tomorrow.


hurry and post that


please
=^-^=
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 08:59 GMT
#138
Ugh~ I'm surprised everyone thinks slayer is more talented than boxer and garimto o_o
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Talith
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1102 Posts
June 14 2004 09:00 GMT
#139
On June 14 2004 16:25 Maynard wrote:
I seriously cant get over how homosexual i look and sound. I need to act more macho.

Hopefully ive changed since then.

=[


Oh you have cutey pie!

You have

Got Manner?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28608 Posts
June 14 2004 09:05 GMT
#140
frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online.

slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 09:08 GMT
#141
On June 14 2004 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online.

slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school.

Thank you Good explanation (which is what I was after) ~_~
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
June 14 2004 09:13 GMT
#142
put that motherfucker behind the wheel of an F1
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
June 14 2004 09:14 GMT
#143
biometrically, he almost certainly blows schumacher away
JAM THE FUCKER!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28608 Posts
June 14 2004 09:16 GMT
#144
slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania

I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good.

Moderator
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 14 2004 09:19 GMT
#145
It is easier to respect someone who did not practice 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a year to get good.
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
June 14 2004 09:25 GMT
#146
so, what is Slayer doing nowadays? And when did he quit?
GulleFjuN@Europe
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
June 14 2004 09:25 GMT
#147
On June 14 2004 18:16 Liquid`Drone wrote:
slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania

I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good.



hahaha elastomania!!!! bring back memories
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 09:27 GMT
#148
On June 14 2004 18:16 Liquid`Drone wrote:
slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania

I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good.


Elastomania?
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 09:29 GMT
#149
On June 14 2004 18:19 Maynard wrote:
It is easier to respect someone who did not practice 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a year to get good.

Actually I kind of have more respect for someone who dedicate that kind of time to something.. Amazing work ethic (and really, we don't know how good he would have gotten had he practiced the korean way).

I have a different kind of respect for slayer I guess (I mean, I might have thought different if, as drone said, I was there and saw him play)
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Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-14 09:49:37
June 14 2004 09:41 GMT
#150
Elastomania is a kind of motorbike simulation
you need to control that guy with his bike trough crazy stages
here is a screenshot
[image loading]


looks crappy but its so addictive ... I got trough all 48 lvls or so.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 14 2004 10:01 GMT
#151
On June 14 2004 18:29 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 18:19 Maynard wrote:
It is easier to respect someone who did not practice 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a year to get good.

Actually I kind of have more respect for someone who dedicate that kind of time to something.. Amazing work ethic (and really, we don't know how good he would have gotten had he practiced the korean way).

I have a different kind of respect for slayer I guess (I mean, I might have thought different if, as drone said, I was there and saw him play)


Yes if it is focused at something other than brood war. It doesnt exactly take a "hard worker" to play 16 hours a day.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 10:13 GMT
#152
On June 14 2004 19:01 Maynard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 18:29 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On June 14 2004 18:19 Maynard wrote:
It is easier to respect someone who did not practice 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a year to get good.

Actually I kind of have more respect for someone who dedicate that kind of time to something.. Amazing work ethic (and really, we don't know how good he would have gotten had he practiced the korean way).

I have a different kind of respect for slayer I guess (I mean, I might have thought different if, as drone said, I was there and saw him play)


Yes if it is focused at something other than brood war. It doesnt exactly take a "hard worker" to play 16 hours a day.

It requires an enormous dedication to do it for so long O_O Garimto said that pros play 400 games a week when preparing for a tournament..That is something I'd be very hard pressed to do O_O I have played 14 hours a day for 3 days in a row during tltour. I was completely worn out and played like shit after a while O_O I managed like.. hm 60 games in 3 days.

It's complete and utter dedication to the game, quite amazing o_o
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-14 10:21:51
June 14 2004 10:21 GMT
#153



It requires an enormous dedication to do it for so long O_O Garimto said that pros play 400 games a week when preparing for a tournament..That is something I'd be very hard pressed to do O_O I have played 14 hours a day for 3 days in a row during tltour. I was completely worn out and played like shit after a while O_O I managed like.. hm 60 games in 3 days.

It's complete and utter dedication to the game, quite amazing o_o


It is not really constructive. It is like practicing nonstop to be the best at a video game.
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
June 14 2004 10:31 GMT
#154
IMO playing 400games a week looks more exhausting than anything else.... It's a little too much to prepare for a tourney
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 14 2004 10:59 GMT
#155
That's like 60 games a day.. no one plays that much 200 games a week sounds more realistic, but even that is pushing it, and playing on weekends
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
i-Sonic
Profile Joined May 2004
152 Posts
June 14 2004 11:14 GMT
#156
On June 14 2004 18:41 FadeToChaos wrote:
Elastomania is a kind of motorbike simulation
you need to control that guy with his bike trough crazy stages
here is a screenshot
[image loading]


looks crappy but its so addictive ... I got trough all 48 lvls or so.


where do you find this game? i wanna try it out:D
God told John to come fourth and receive eternal life...but John came fifth and received a toaster.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
June 14 2004 11:31 GMT
#157
On June 14 2004 05:36 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 05:25 hasuwar wrote:
google, type in GSpot, download it, run it on the avi, see which codec you are missing


Thx, I think I did it right DIV3 I think is missing. Does that sound right?You just d/l it and open the Vod right? That 4CC thing is the missing codec thingy Yes? If so how do i replace it?
Help anyone?
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
June 14 2004 11:55 GMT
#158
Wow, I love it how NTT and Maynard always view the forum but never post unless...
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
June 14 2004 11:58 GMT
#159
On June 14 2004 20:55 Dick wrote:
Wow, I love it how NTT and Maynard always view the forum but never post unless...
That's what makes it so magical

And Maynard, I want a raincheck on that post!
sideproject: twitch.tv Starcraft II Viewers data - http://twitchsc2data.com/
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
June 14 2004 11:59 GMT
#160
www.elastomania.com for the demo and for the full version well search for it on google or on kazaa
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
June 14 2004 12:08 GMT
#161
That documentary was fun. Brought back a lot of memories.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 14 2004 12:53 GMT
#162
On June 14 2004 20:55 Dick wrote:
Wow, I love it how NTT and Maynard always view the forum but never post unless...


I've been coming here lately(past 1-2 weeks?) because I lack anything else to do. When a post like this is made it travels around through messages and stuff though.
Abahgus
Profile Joined June 2004
United States323 Posts
June 14 2004 13:01 GMT
#163
Bah I wanted to see a leet GG clan party or something ^_^
Bunkers are soso good. - GroT
[pG]RaGe
Profile Joined February 2004
United States346 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-14 13:25:28
June 14 2004 13:19 GMT
#164
hmm, Thor is in this video too right? I thought I saw him when NTT tells Slayer how he just won $5,000.

EDIT: lol @ Grrrr and Maynard about Slayer's hands:p Really they are fast and it looks like he has his left hand on the keyboard different than most gamers. His is on a slant and he has really long fingers:p
Zerius[TPR]
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1633 Posts
June 14 2004 13:34 GMT
#165
Maynard, the foppish dandy.

where from you, circus?
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
June 14 2004 13:36 GMT
#166
Frozen arbiter : Even if i didn't see slayers playing on a lan i knew for sure that he was surelly the best gamer of starcraft. Because of his random's skills and the way he played in almost all games was always very entertaining to watch.

Ps : maybe i saw him once in a lan : Lan Arena 6 anyone can confirm if he has been there around ?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Abahgus
Profile Joined June 2004
United States323 Posts
June 14 2004 13:37 GMT
#167
If given the time of playing all the pro koreans had, Slayer without a doubt would surpass them with ease.
Bunkers are soso good. - GroT
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
June 14 2004 14:43 GMT
#168
Does anyone have the vods where Boxer 3-0ed him (i believe all 3 times tvz on rivalry)? I always wanted to see them, and thought maybe here would be a good place to ask.
too easy
i-Sonic
Profile Joined May 2004
152 Posts
June 14 2004 15:38 GMT
#169
maynard did seem like he fancied the dandy men if you know what i mean.

for idiots who dont know what that meant, maynard is a fruit.
God told John to come fourth and receive eternal life...but John came fifth and received a toaster.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 14 2004 15:38 GMT
#170
at least one of the tvz's was lost temple. remember watching it. boxer metal rushed him.
GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
June 14 2004 15:51 GMT
#171
--- Nuked ---
My whole existence is flawed.
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
June 14 2004 15:55 GMT
#172
On June 14 2004 17:07 Totoro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 17:02 FadeToChaos wrote:
On June 14 2004 16:27 emerton wrote:
i have made subs. i will post it tomorrow.


hurry and post that




pls post it dont forget man !

please
My life is so hard :(
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
June 14 2004 15:57 GMT
#173
On June 14 2004 21:08 mensrea wrote:
That documentary was fun. Brought back a lot of memories.



which one was u ?^^
My life is so hard :(
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
June 14 2004 15:58 GMT
#174
is that NTT(yep) real NTT?
My life is so hard :(
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
June 14 2004 16:39 GMT
#175
This thread is really interesting and brings indeed back a lot of old pleasant memories. Unfortunately, I was never able to see Slayer live, but I saw -NTT once playing a team-match together with Nazgul in Cologne/Germany. Even though he afterwards said he didn't play well, it was really nice to watch.
Anyways, I'd really like to know what Slayer/NTT/Maynard/Thor are doing nowadays and how they look at their "BW-careers" in retrospect. Has it been a waste of time for them? Or maybe a good expirience? Or both? Are they still playing? And, if they are, are they feeling like getting old (like I do) and not being able to dominate the game the way they did at their prime.
Drazzzt aka ShortNotice


Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
GTR-2-Go_au
Profile Joined February 2004
Australia315 Posts
June 14 2004 16:44 GMT
#176
maynard's probably going to wcg somewhere in the u.s
I got none.....
forb
Profile Joined February 2003
Norway218 Posts
June 14 2004 17:22 GMT
#177
Does anyone have the vods where Boxer 3-0ed him (i believe all 3 times tvz on rivalry)? I always wanted to see them, and thought maybe here would be a good place to ask.

Yeah, i have all three. Don't know where to upload though.

:()
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 14 2004 17:49 GMT
#178
I am of the opinion that garimto is the best and most talented player of all time.

I have nothing back up this claim, but I believe it!
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
June 14 2004 17:53 GMT
#179
Travis, where have u been? Did u stop play BW or what?
Really, play for fun!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 14 2004 18:50 GMT
#180
ya
but im considering playing again

cause i read this
emerton
Profile Joined April 2004
Norway167 Posts
June 14 2004 18:55 GMT
#181
Here you are:
http://home.hesbynett.no/nicolai/Aliasslayersubsd/

I think you will need that Vodsub program so download that.
(thanks comabreaded)
I suggest you put the sub file in the same folder as the movie is in.
And the subtitle file must have the same name as the movie.

Enjoy.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
June 14 2004 19:01 GMT
#182
you rule so very much
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 19:31 GMT
#183
On June 14 2004 22:37 Abahgus wrote:
If given the time of playing all the pro koreans had, Slayer without a doubt would surpass them with ease.

We don't know that.. His potential may have been godly, or it may not have been =]
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 14 2004 19:32 GMT
#184
On June 14 2004 19:59 hasuwar wrote:
That's like 60 games a day.. no one plays that much 200 games a week sounds more realistic, but even that is pushing it, and playing on weekends

Maybe garimto was posting lies on his Pc Cafe (ask freezeternal -_-!)

I believe he said they sometimes play 23 hours in a row o_O
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
June 14 2004 19:38 GMT
#185
THX *****
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Wirthi
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany395 Posts
June 14 2004 19:50 GMT
#186
Thx for the subs, great job, watched it for the second time now
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
June 14 2004 20:15 GMT
#187
On June 15 2004 00:38 travis wrote:
at least one of the tvz's was lost temple. remember watching it. boxer metal rushed him.


It was on Ice Temple and both of them played standard. Boxer won a great battle on the middle with nice micro. Second was on Legacy Of Char, Slayer swarm/lurk dropped and had great advantage but lost again to micro. Third was on Rivalry Slayer went hydra ling and Boxer killed him with rine/med/bat.
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
June 14 2004 20:26 GMT
#188
{36053}{36092}-Its me.
{36276}{36320}-KBK is finished.
{36358}{36414}-I won.
{36724}{36804}-I have to go now.
{36888}{36979}-Bye.

haha art!
aka sunsHine
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
June 14 2004 20:50 GMT
#189
that documentary is so good.
when i think of what i did at this time (99-00) i feel so dull ... :/

(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
HeMaN
Profile Joined October 2002
275 Posts
June 14 2004 20:52 GMT
#190
Slayer and sVEN went into the army and quit playing.

sVEN was also very talented. As far as I know sven was the one teaching slayer BW in the first place.

I saw this documentary years ago, it's very well done and even won a best documentary prize in norway. Pretty fun to see how many norwegians logged on brood war nor-1 just after this documentary aired.

There is a lot of noteable people you can find in the background. For example it's Blizzards president Mike Morhaime giving the big check to slayer in the end.

Slayer was like 16, 17? in this documentary, he started working out just before he got drafted. He is a lot bigger now.

I heard sVEN started playing some again. I've seen him at WC3 a couple of times. No idea what slayer does.
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 14 2004 21:01 GMT
#191
I watched it before the subtitles and I thought something like:

{36053}{36092}-Its me.
{36276}{36320}-KBK is finished.
{36358}{36414}-I won.
{36724}{36804}-Ten thousand bucks.
{36888}{36979}-Buy vodka, prepare the tables. Bye.
micro soft, macro hard
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
June 14 2004 21:08 GMT
#192
Thx, HeMaN, for your infos.
Hard to imagine someone like Slayer quitting a game he was so good at entirely. Maybe, he is just reading this thread or someone he knows tells him about it.
He definitely was _the_ man back in the days and he seems to be a really nice and intelligent guy.
Drazzzt aka ShortNotice
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
June 14 2004 21:26 GMT
#193
On June 14 2004 18:16 Liquid`Drone wrote:
slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania

I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good.



Haha he sucked at cs, but good at Elma even though he played crap maps
h e l l o e
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 14 2004 22:16 GMT
#194
Emerton, thannks for the subtitles;

Did he swear on camera? (You translated ..."that was fucking nasty"...."cheese or some gay stuff"....) (:
SunShine
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands787 Posts
June 14 2004 22:20 GMT
#195
Slayer+Sven both play w3 again. Sven allot more active then slayer tho ;o slayer just plays for fun i think and sven is just an awsome micromanager
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
June 14 2004 22:48 GMT
#196
that documentary is so good.
when i think of what i did at this time (99-00) i feel so dull ... :/

(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
i-Sonic
Profile Joined May 2004
152 Posts
June 14 2004 22:59 GMT
#197
wow... how the times had changed i suppose grrr was good in 2000, cus that pro manager just said "i have the starcraft champion guilliame patry" it was the funniest thing i heard.
God told John to come fourth and receive eternal life...but John came fifth and received a toaster.
Radiohead
Profile Joined November 2003
Norway201 Posts
June 14 2004 23:06 GMT
#198
On June 15 2004 07:16 MPXMX wrote:
Emerton, thannks for the subtitles;

Did he swear on camera? (You translated ..."that was fucking nasty"...."cheese or some gay stuff"....) (:


yup
Careful with that axe Eugene !
RedAreStupid.
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden476 Posts
June 14 2004 23:10 GMT
#199
the progamer sounded like hmm, not proffesinally handled,, hm dont how to put it
is is the best
HnR)Nazarene
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark171 Posts
June 14 2004 23:41 GMT
#200
haha maynard
StimD
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Norway738 Posts
June 14 2004 23:46 GMT
#201
I've seen both sVEN and Slayer alot on bw the last couple of months.
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
June 14 2004 23:53 GMT
#202
10x for the subs btw
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
June 14 2004 23:55 GMT
#203
On June 15 2004 07:59 i-Sonic wrote:
wow... how the times had changed i suppose grrr was good in 2000, cus that pro manager just said "i have the starcraft champion guilliame patry" it was the funniest thing i heard.


Grrrr was a fuckin machine and the best player in the world back then
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
June 14 2004 23:56 GMT
#204
On June 15 2004 04:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 19:59 hasuwar wrote:
That's like 60 games a day.. no one plays that much 200 games a week sounds more realistic, but even that is pushing it, and playing on weekends

Maybe garimto was posting lies on his Pc Cafe (ask freezeternal -_-!)

I believe he said they sometimes play 23 hours in a row o_O



I understand that on average, most of the pro players in [gm] play 40 games a day. So 60 every day might be stretching it, but 60 every now and again doesn't seem so impossible.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5413 Posts
June 15 2004 00:04 GMT
#205
On June 15 2004 03:55 emerton wrote:
Here you are:
http://home.hesbynett.no/nicolai/Aliasslayersubsd/

I think you will need that Vodsub program so download that.
(thanks comabreaded)
I suggest you put the sub file in the same folder as the movie is in.
And the subtitle file must have the same name as the movie.

Enjoy.


thanks a lot, very easy to use and it works perfectly
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
June 15 2004 00:15 GMT
#206
On June 15 2004 08:56 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2004 04:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On June 14 2004 19:59 hasuwar wrote:
That's like 60 games a day.. no one plays that much 200 games a week sounds more realistic, but even that is pushing it, and playing on weekends

Maybe garimto was posting lies on his Pc Cafe (ask freezeternal -_-!)

I believe he said they sometimes play 23 hours in a row o_O



I understand that on average, most of the pro players in [gm] play 40 games a day. So 60 every day might be stretching it, but 60 every now and again doesn't seem so impossible.


BBiBBi played about 40 games in one day on wgtour. Played another 20 the next day. Not to mention WGT is a slow process and takes several minutes or longer to find an opponent. I wouldnt doubt a pro player who is envied by thousands of koreans playing 60+ in a day.
Hoops
Profile Joined April 2004
417 Posts
June 15 2004 00:35 GMT
#207
10 games a day is taxing for me...god 40 seems nearly impossible especially on wgtour.
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
June 15 2004 00:42 GMT
#208
On June 15 2004 08:55 FadeToChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2004 07:59 i-Sonic wrote:
wow... how the times had changed i suppose grrr was good in 2000, cus that pro manager just said "i have the starcraft champion guilliame patry" it was the funniest thing i heard.


Grrrr was a fuckin machine and the best player in the world back then


N O .
h e l l o e
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 15 2004 01:02 GMT
#209
On June 15 2004 07:59 i-Sonic wrote:
wow... how the times had changed i suppose grrr was good in 2000, cus that pro manager just said "i have the starcraft champion guilliame patry" it was the funniest thing i heard.

o_o; He was the best player in korea (at the very least) at the time o_O He won OGN and king of kings. He was the champ ;]
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Zzang
Profile Joined May 2003
1303 Posts
June 15 2004 01:03 GMT
#210
Question of the week: Who's that non-korean guy at 11:20 ??
http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/en/heroes/272999807
KhresT
Profile Joined June 2003
Brazil187 Posts
June 15 2004 01:25 GMT
#211
SUB, THANK, NOW MORE BRAZILIAN WILL SEE IT.
Also Know As Keeper-Vikter @USEast @ Europe and VikteR @ West
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
June 15 2004 02:02 GMT
#212
Very well made documentary, good subs. Thanks for the hard work (Bleh, I'm so lazy... gotta start timing the script for Boxer vs Joyo ^^
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
June 15 2004 02:12 GMT
#213
thx for subs :D
I put the fu in fun
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 15 2004 02:50 GMT
#214
On June 15 2004 10:03 Zzang wrote:
Question of the week: Who's that non-korean guy at 11:20 ??


He is some german guy i forgot his name though.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 15 2004 03:07 GMT
#215
alright i downloaded virtualdub and this vodsub thing, which i installed....

how do i get the subtitles running, i don't get it :/
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TeCh)keke
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada159 Posts
June 15 2004 03:12 GMT
#216
really nice documentry
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
June 15 2004 03:20 GMT
#217
On June 15 2004 12:07 Carnac wrote:
alright i downloaded virtualdub and this vodsub thing, which i installed....

how do i get the subtitles running, i don't get it :/


yeah it tripped me up for a few seconds too, you have to rename the aliasslayer.sub.txt to just .sub
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 15 2004 03:45 GMT
#218
it already was called .sub for me
doesn't work :/
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RushTHElarvA
Profile Joined January 2003
449 Posts
June 15 2004 03:46 GMT
#219
wats this about ?
2:25
caption:[abs]:soar for another biologicalscrew up

is that what abs stands for ?!?!
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
June 15 2004 03:58 GMT
#220
abs = another biologically screwed up
Nemesis has left the building~
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 15 2004 04:01 GMT
#221
The german was [DEF]Rookie I think. Thor was at the previous kbk
micro soft, macro hard
RushTHElarvA
Profile Joined January 2003
449 Posts
June 15 2004 04:14 GMT
#222
oic thx
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 15 2004 08:11 GMT
#223
...so how do we get the sub to run? do we just play the movie? do we use submux.exe? i'm so lost
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-15 08:24:43
June 15 2004 08:23 GMT
#224
carnac, does your windows show file extensions? if not, try "extras --> ordneroptionen --> ansicht".

edit: oh i just realized the file is in fact already a .sub-file ^^
Splinter
Profile Joined July 2003
United States188 Posts
June 15 2004 08:23 GMT
#225
If you have everything installed to make subs work, you just have to play the movie with the subs file in the same folder as the movie, and the subs should appear automatically (this is what happened using BSPlayer at least).
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 15 2004 08:25 GMT
#226
if i think i got it to work right, did it take a shitload of time to "mux" too?
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 15 2004 08:26 GMT
#227
On June 15 2004 17:23 Splinter wrote:
If you have everything installed to make subs work, you just have to play the movie with the subs file in the same folder as the movie, and the subs should appear automatically (this is what happened using BSPlayer at least).
k, that didn't happen for me (using divx)
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
June 15 2004 08:37 GMT
#228
On June 15 2004 17:26 RuGbUg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2004 17:23 Splinter wrote:
If you have everything installed to make subs work, you just have to play the movie with the subs file in the same folder as the movie, and the subs should appear automatically (this is what happened using BSPlayer at least).
k, that didn't happen for me (using divx)


I couldn't get it to work with DivX either. I then used the default program, some ATI viewer my comp has on it without doing anything to the file, and it worked fine. Maybe it just doesn't work with DivX?
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 15 2004 09:05 GMT
#229
yeah i got it to work with media player, but not with divx. eh
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
June 15 2004 13:17 GMT
#230
mmmmm

does anyone have like a bracket of the tournament ?

or at least name some of the matches, like who did Slayer beat in the finals and how far did ntt, maynard, sven, grrrr, the rest of the korean pro gamers etc... went
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 15 2004 13:46 GMT
#231
It was a 128 player single elimination tournament, all games on KBK lost temple. I think only the final was best of 3

Slayer beat I_Love.Star in the final, 2:1 TvZ. Only other opponent I remember the name of was Intotherain, Slayer beat him zvp. Most other foreigners were out in round 1, that's elky, mr.x (zvz), rookie, some chinese player... I think Maynard and Grrrr had to play each other but I might be wrong, maybe that was the previous year or something.

The previous year was fun too, there were more foreigners if I remember correctly. :+:jolly:+: and Mr.X made it to top 16, Pillars, Thor, Tillerman were there and others. TheMarine won it, beating that same zerg I_Love.Star. By the way I_Love.Star was second in WCG challenge too, lost to Gorush there
micro soft, macro hard
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 15 2004 13:48 GMT
#232
haha poor star
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
June 15 2004 14:19 GMT
#233
many thanks for the replays
zzzzzz
Fester
Profile Joined February 2003
Australia260 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-15 14:44:47
June 15 2004 14:44 GMT
#234
elky said he won the first game but lost 2nd round. and he was playing zerg in the kbk tournament

i_love_star = [dak]galbi im sure
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
June 15 2004 14:50 GMT
#235
So what's this I Love Star guy doing nowadays?
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 15 2004 15:37 GMT
#236
I saw him in the KPGA tour right before it changed name. Havent heard from him after.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
June 15 2004 16:53 GMT
#237
i love star used to be in boxers team around 2001
ggt
Profile Joined December 2003
France58 Posts
June 15 2004 17:26 GMT
#238
thx a lot for subs
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
June 15 2004 17:41 GMT
#239
On June 15 2004 23:44 Fester wrote:
elky said he won the first game but lost 2nd round. and he was playing zerg in the kbk tournament

i_love_star = [dak]galbi im sure


Quite sure that you are wrong, Galbi was bassy iirc. I_Love.star wasn't a progamer though, just semi-pro, same thing with Gorush.
h e l l o e
AnOther
Profile Joined April 2004
565 Posts
June 15 2004 18:01 GMT
#240
soft stubs plz
RedAreStupid.
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden476 Posts
June 15 2004 18:41 GMT
#241
does anybody know when kbk ladder starts? site with info etc?
is is the best
Honk2000
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany698 Posts
June 15 2004 19:06 GMT
#242
pgr21.com says Jang il-suk(I_Love.Star) is Orb)GGoMa.

SiS
Profile Joined June 2004
United States753 Posts
June 15 2004 19:59 GMT
#243
what in fuck's name was that pro gamer manager talking about? o_O
I couldn't understand him, maybe my audio sux but all I could make out was "american school", and "starcraft champion giyom patry" and something about salary

other than that, the movie was pretty cool
If you suddenly become to have twelve sisters, what do you think?
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
June 15 2004 20:11 GMT
#244
You just don't get scandinavian humour do you... It's all staged, if you don't realise it yet. That's just some english speaking koreans they picked off the street
micro soft, macro hard
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 15 2004 20:19 GMT
#245
On June 16 2004 05:11 Breeze wrote:
You just don't get scandinavian humour do you... It's all staged, if you don't realise it yet. That's just some english speaking koreans they picked off the street

LOL :-)
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SiS
Profile Joined June 2004
United States753 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-15 20:37:25
June 15 2004 20:37 GMT
#246
uhm ...

staged or real I wasn't even asking about that -_-

I was just asking what he was saying since I couldnt really understand that garbled shit he was saying (I guess it was english)
If you suddenly become to have twelve sisters, what do you think?
[pG]RaGe
Profile Joined February 2004
United States346 Posts
June 15 2004 21:24 GMT
#247
I dont think that guy at 11:20 is Rookie, he looks too old to be Ironman=)
IntoTheClanWar
Profile Joined May 2004
141 Posts
June 15 2004 21:50 GMT
#248
Slayer was the gamer with the most talent, and he for sure was ONE of the best gamers of all time.

Grrrr... was one of them, too. He was the first one, too play it really as a pro gamer and he understood the game so fast than no one else.

Boxer is already new generation compared to these and the rising star seems to sink, like grrrr... did 2 years ago.

Nada and other great gamer are the new stars and for sure the best ones these days..
IntoTheClanWar
Profile Joined May 2004
141 Posts
June 15 2004 22:04 GMT
#249
How do i get a picture ? I have only sound.. what must i do ?
I dont understand how to get it running with this sub program..
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
June 15 2004 22:16 GMT
#250
Try K-Lite codec pack, it makes wonders As for the subs i just use BSPlayer.
God is dead - Nietzsche ; Nietzsche is dead - God
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
June 15 2004 22:51 GMT
#251
Although I (as a rational human being) can fully understand slayer's decision for not becoming a progamer, I have to admit that I would have loved to see him becoming one as a starcraft loving player.
It is always inspiring to watch "underdogs" growing huge in any sport, probably dominating it, especially as a foreigner. I also would have been more of a fan than for any other korean progamer as it would have been against the odds for him to be the best (like grrrr... was before).
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 16 2004 01:31 GMT
#252
On June 16 2004 05:37 SiS wrote:
uhm ...

staged or real I wasn't even asking about that -_-

I was just asking what he was saying since I couldnt really understand that garbled shit he was saying (I guess it was english)

Turn up your volume or something because I heard every single word and I'm not even a native speaker +_+
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
June 16 2004 02:21 GMT
#253
On June 16 2004 10:31 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Turn up your volume or something because I heard every single word and I'm not even a native speaker +_+


Maybe you are used to people speaking strange/undistinguishable english
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 16 2004 04:26 GMT
#254
Not really as I only hear english spoken by people who are very well versed in it (movies.. movies and yeah movies ~_~ - I hate subtitles )
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
June 16 2004 05:28 GMT
#255
On June 16 2004 04:59 SiS wrote:
what in fuck's name was that pro gamer manager talking about? o_O
I couldn't understand him, maybe my audio sux but all I could make out was "american school", and "starcraft champion "giyom patry" and something about salary


my name is jungh juhn min (hope its right, im not good at korean ) and i am managing some pro team and i have 14 players. My pro-gamers (that REALLY sounds odd ). And also i have the world champoin of starcraft, his name is giyom patry.

my oppinion of slayer is: he doesnt have any career for pro-gaming in korea (i think he means he wasnt present at korean tv, so he would be not so interesting for sponsors) so i cant give him so much sallary.
so i just think, i can get him to american school in korea, international school ... that costs much. i can give him 20.000 USD or maybe 30.000 USD or like that.

my best player, giyom patry, says slayer is the best.

(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 16 2004 06:47 GMT
#256
I lost to grrrr in the second round TVP in a game i still curse to this day.
Hoops
Profile Joined April 2004
417 Posts
June 16 2004 06:57 GMT
#257
Maynard how good were you? I've never seen a replay or really heard of what you won. I just know you were one of the "greats" from the past and that you were in korea for a while.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 16 2004 07:10 GMT
#258
On June 16 2004 15:57 Hoops wrote:
Maynard how good were you? I've never seen a replay or really heard of what you won. I just know you were one of the "greats" from the past and that you were in korea for a while.


I made it a policy not to spread around replays of me winning. I guess I would say i've had some decent tournament placings, no real tournament wins. My tournament experience was rather lackluster but i was able to keep my face around for a while. I was able to obtain a paid sponsorship for a period of time in Korea until my sponsor went bankrupt.

Dunno if that anwsers it. Probably not.
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
June 16 2004 07:19 GMT
#259
maynard i thought you said your last name was bombat. *wipes away tear*
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
June 16 2004 07:21 GMT
#260
On June 16 2004 15:57 Hoops wrote:
Maynard how good were you? I've never seen a replay or really heard of what you won. I just know you were one of the "greats" from the past and that you were in korea for a while.


It's not my place to speak for Maynard, but almost all of the old-school foreigners regarded Maynard as THE best of the very old-school, as far as I understand. Grrrr..., Soso, Jolly, etc. all regarded him as a very skilled player and all learned a lot from him. There was a StarCraft.org feature up a few years ago with profiles on many old-school players, and almost everyone had Maynard as one of their most feared players, or most skilled. Whether he ended up as good as the pros or not, he was always very talented and one of the best of the old-school days.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
June 16 2004 11:16 GMT
#261
I was always interested as to what made you kill H.O.T. like that on rivalry, Maynard?
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 16 2004 11:26 GMT
#262
On June 16 2004 20:16 NoNameLoser wrote:
I was always interested as to what made you kill H.O.T. like that on rivalry, Maynard?


R v Z on rivalry, got Z. Double elimination so i decided to mix it up rather than play z v z straight up on rivalry vs him.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
June 16 2004 12:53 GMT
#263
Thx you very much emerton for making vodsub but can you make it full subs ? Cauz i'm a deaf person and can't understand at all what are the english speakers saying.
I think it would be great for some players who can't understand english too but can read

Thx you. :p
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
June 16 2004 13:03 GMT
#264
much gratefulness goes to emerton, and i read through every reply in this topic these few days, art! documentry art/sub art/comments art/maynard & ntt art!
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
June 16 2004 13:10 GMT
#265
On June 16 2004 16:10 Maynard wrote:
I made it a policy not to spread around replays of me winning. I guess I would say i've had some decent tournament placings, no real tournament wins. My tournament experience was rather lackluster but i was able to keep my face around for a while. I was able to obtain a paid sponsorship for a period of time in Korea until my sponsor went bankrupt.

Dunno if that anwsers it. Probably not.


my friends and i call the peon swap from main to natural
"maynard swap"
and guess what, i started by only 2 years ago, thats when i heard this term.
ur name will survive maynard, as well as grrrs. u are like .... there is nonone like you
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 16 2004 21:22 GMT
#266
Maynard tansfer
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 16 2004 22:32 GMT
#267
yea the maynard transfer. Hall of fame! -_-

Oh and Maynard since you are here - I always wondered why you played terran down in korea whene everybody from Grrr to Zelias was screaming about how unbeatable your zerg was?
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Dick
Profile Joined October 2002
United States717 Posts
June 16 2004 23:14 GMT
#268
All I read from maynard said he was exclusively Random (pre reps era)
Boxer will be in the US on the 16th - perhaps to give advice to South Korean President Roh, who is on state visit to the US this week, on how to handle any surprise tank pushes by North Koreans
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
June 17 2004 00:02 GMT
#269
On June 17 2004 07:32 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
yea the maynard transfer. Hall of fame! -_-

Oh and Maynard since you are here - I always wondered why you played terran down in korea whene everybody from Grrr to Zelias was screaming about how unbeatable your zerg was?


Because i absolutely hated ZVZ and when i was in korea every other korean was Z.
Hoops
Profile Joined April 2004
417 Posts
June 17 2004 23:28 GMT
#270
Why not do the differ race for every match up move

Well thanks. I guess this answers my question as best it can.
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
June 19 2004 14:11 GMT
#271
EEHEHEEE! Elastomania! That little game needs almost as much dedication as BW. I have a Swedish friend who used to play that game a LOT and has still got a few world records. Its amazing how people come up with new ways of twisting and turning that bike to make a better time at a map. rofl
-.-
DirtyDrone
Profile Joined June 2004
Denmark2 Posts
July 24 2004 21:26 GMT
#272
anyone have this for dl somewhere?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
July 24 2004 21:29 GMT
#273
yes plz, i'd like to dl it as well :D
why so 진지해?
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-25 00:46:30
July 24 2004 23:12 GMT
#274
i got it off kazaa. if you're scared of the virii, you can msn me ~_~

edit: errrr, i mean elastomania, not the video. but i do have the video too....tho i dont rly wanna send it. i'll send it to the one guy who PM'ed me tho.
I put the fu in fun
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
July 27 2004 12:56 GMT
#275
Yeah it would be awsome if someome could host this again :D
Id like to dl it
NoCleanFeed.com
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
July 27 2004 18:02 GMT
#276
Someone ?
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
July 27 2004 18:23 GMT
#277
It'd take a buttload of bandwidth to host a huge file like that..guess that's why they took it down :| Tl.net needs like a private dcc hub or something for only tl.net members ;o
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
ZorAptoR
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Switzerland926 Posts
July 27 2004 20:36 GMT
#278
and then suddenly tl.net has like 100k members...
in SOMA we TRUST
peetah
Profile Joined August 2005
Sweden88 Posts
July 09 2008 20:29 GMT
#279
I'm here to bump!

Today, I discovered that Alias:Slayer actually is uploaded on YouTube. As for you who don't know what kind of movie this is, it's a documentary about a great norwegian player named Slayer that travel to Korea in 2001 to participate in the KBK-tournament.

Part 1:


Part 2:


Part 3:
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
July 09 2008 20:34 GMT
#280
This is pretty old, but thanks for sharing, it might help some people who've never seen it.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 09 2008 20:42 GMT
#281
146mb back in 2004 take forever to dl.
forb
Profile Joined February 2003
Norway218 Posts
July 09 2008 20:50 GMT
#282
If someone wants to download it:
http://randomoutput.org/nico/aliasslayer.avi
And subs:
http://randomoutput.org/nico/aliasslayer.sub

Not sure if they work though.
:()
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
July 09 2008 21:09 GMT
#283
oh shit thx for the upload
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
July 09 2008 22:55 GMT
#284
one of the most impressive scenes is still when giyom and maynard are behind him and can't believe how fast his hands are.
he was really an exceptional player at his time.
letsbefree
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada123 Posts
July 09 2008 23:08 GMT
#285
isn't that ugly foreigner who played zerg?? =O
hehe...
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
July 09 2008 23:43 GMT
#286
On July 10 2008 05:29 peetah wrote:
I'm here to bump!

Today, I discovered that Alias:Slayer actually is uploaded on YouTube. As for you who don't know what kind of movie this is, it's a documentary about a great norwegian player named Slayer that travel to Korea in 2001 to participate in the KBK-tournament.

Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng

Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4

Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA


That was genuinely a great watch. All this was way before my SC-time and I love seeing how the raw passion in SC hasn't changed over the years. I wonder what Slayer is doing now.... :|

/wipes tear...
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
July 10 2008 00:10 GMT
#287
I've seen this before.. but what I don't know about is... What happened to this frederick kid? Sorry for my ignorance anyone has a little more information on him? Anything else after this tournament?
w/e
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 17:18:38
July 10 2008 00:41 GMT
#288
He was offered a contract, but didnt take it, because he wanted a safe education at home.
Then he had to serve the one year mandatory military service that norway has, and during that time, he bought a couple of poker books, and studied poker for a while, and I think he's making a good amount of money on it.

I THINK I saw him on the nordic poker tourmanent, but cant remember exactly..it was a while ago.

Btw, peetah, you didnt happen to get that information from the wow forums? I posted it a while ago on my warrior :D

Edit: Is ther any way at all to get a hold of those replays or the VODS from that tournament? Wanna see how they played back then.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
July 10 2008 05:04 GMT
#289
Wow, this thread was from way before my time. Thanks for the bump, I'll check those videos out. But I was totally shocked when I saw a post by Maynard in the thread; I knew maynarding was named after a player, but it's really cool to see somebody that famous (now anyway) post on TL. I wonder if he still posts here.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
iori_LT
Profile Joined May 2003
Lithuania675 Posts
July 10 2008 05:53 GMT
#290
this was so ridiculously nostalgic... nice video really
addicted to TL.net
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7763 Posts
July 10 2008 07:21 GMT
#291
I wish I knew what I know about SC now, back then. I would have made so much bank -_-. I guess we all would have though

Hydras against the MnM in every clip of TvZ made me laugh alot. Lol.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 14:59:01
July 10 2008 14:58 GMT
#292
On July 10 2008 08:43 Elric_ wrote:
... I wonder what Slayer is doing now.... :|


On July 10 2008 09:10 InfeSteD[rA] wrote:
...What happened to this frederick kid? Sorry for my ignorance anyone has a little more information on him? Anything else after this tournament?


On July 10 2008 09:41 Epicfailguy wrote:
He was offered a contract, but didnt take it, because he wanted a safe education at home.
Then he had to serve the one year mandatory military service that norway has, and during that time, he bought a couple of poker books, and studied poker for a while, and I think he's making a good amount of money on it.

I THINK I saw him on the nordic poker tourmanent, but cant remember exactly..it was a while ago.


Just a little extract from a Tillerman interview who seems to be good friends with Slayer:



...

There must be at least 4-5 ex professional gamers who have pulled in more than seven figures from poker. My good friend Kirderf (ex Broodwar WCG Champion) is one of them and in my opinion is one of the best and most consistent online players in the world, he certainly meets this criteria many times over. Other ex gamers who I know have had some success in poker are Elky, Rekrul, Nazgul, TheBusDriver, Ackbleh, Bushman, Lakerman, 4K.Kaj, NTT, RainKhan, Maynard, IceGod, Groinal, Daishi, Xds’Grrrrr, Nitemare and scores of others whose names escape me right now.

The skills that are transferable from gaming to poker are probably the qualities of obsession and dedication. You can’t reach the highest tiers of competitiveness in gaming without a regime of several hours of practice every day. The same dedication is required in poker. Another advantage for ex gamers will be the ability to multi task more naturally than non gamers thus enabling them to play more tables more easily and deal with multiple decision situations more competently.

One part of gaming that is not easily transferable to poker is the competitive angle, the feeling of being able to sit down at your game and “own” your opponent because you are better. This satisfaction of being able to see instant results is completely missing from poker and is something that I miss. I am also sure it is something that many ex gamers struggle with probably having contributed to them leaking thousands of dollars before it is programmed into them that this feeling can no longer be satisfied from poker.

Also, is there something in particular about Starcraft/Warcraft or can this be extended more generally to people who put lots of time in with computer games of other types? Would you recommend they try poker as something they might have natural aptitude for?

I am not sure how transferable the skills are because for every one gamer I can name that has managed the transition I can name ten others who either fail or struggle. I don’t recommend poker to anyone any more as I believe it is an incredible struggle and hardship for 9 out of 10 players who attempt it. I don’t want the likely outcome of my encouragement to be failure for that person.

Who do you regard as the most successful to crossover besides yourself and do they share similar attributes?

As I said above it is almost certainly Kirderf. We play virtually identical styles and I think have similar thought processes and approaches to the game. This makes sense as we have discussed and talked about poker strategy together for several years. He epitomises Discipline, the single most important skill for a poker player to master. One day I hope to achieve this level of discipline with no leaks from tilt or frustration whatsoever. I am getting closer all the time =)

...

FiSheYe
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany53 Posts
July 10 2008 15:31 GMT
#293
Hey there, I stopped reading after page 7 but I just wanted to throw in a little.
To me Slayer was always the best. When I started Starcraft he used to be my idol and when I played with him he opened my eyes for new strategies and creativity. Not only do I have the same name but I also think he has somewhat an very similar approach. Unfortunately I think he has more talent than I do, be it Starcraft or Poker.
He was never the person to play the most but he was always one of the great inventors in strategies within Starcraft. He used Strategies long before Replays were available and years later people copied his style.
I think due to the long hours I put in Starcraft I was able to spot real talent in a very accurate fashion. I once played Gamei vs Iloveoov when he used to be a Zerg player and I thought to myself that he will be an upcoming star. I had that feeling maybe around 10 times total and all of them became world wide top players either within months or years after I discovered them. Nontheless Slayer struck me as a one in a million talent.
Some people are just special and I don't know about his qualities besides Starcraft and Poker but when it comes to these games hands down, he is amazing.
There is just a certain approach some people have, that makes them different, they see behind the mechanics and find their own way how to play the game.
When there is no further information available, those people will be on top no matter how big the competition.
Slayer is not the best in Starcraft anymore and not on top in Poker either, just because there are people working / playing much more but nevertheless when you will give him a new game and time he will definitely be on top of it, just because he has the creativity and right mindset to succeed.
I dunno if this is private but the I met him last year in Monte Carlo for the European Poker Tour Finals and he won big 7figurish and is well set for life, furtheremore I heard his GF is pregnant so he might be a father by now.

Would be amazing to see him back in Starcraft 2.
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
July 10 2008 15:57 GMT
#294
Fisheye thank you so much for your information.

The things you say about Slayer is the same feeling I got the first time I saw him move his hands around the keyboard and the way he talked abou the game, etc.

Back then, I don't think no1 had that hand speed that he had... I mean Grrr... was the best of the best at that time and he was standing behind him going "Wow, this kid is so fast"...

But it seems like all the old schoolers turn into poker stars, more $$$$$$ I am guessing right?

Does Slayer still play tho at all? Iccup or Bnet?
w/e
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
July 10 2008 17:16 GMT
#295
but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.)
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-10 17:33:36
July 10 2008 17:30 GMT
#296
white-ra was never top of the crop till like 2005 or so (and he was never the best gamer), that's a very bad comparison. Mondragon is a relatively 'old' gamer these days and he's still doin good. If old gamers never quit this game they would've still been on top I think. Exception are maybe some players who were succesfull only because of their unpredictableness and creative strategies. But most old gamers back in the day also had basic macro skills :p
I wish all these legends still played.

I speak about the foreign scene here. In Korea, it's obviously different..
Team Liquid
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 15:45:42
July 11 2008 12:58 GMT
#297
On July 11 2008 02:30 ret wrote:
white-ra was never top of the crop till like 2005 or so (and he was never the best gamer), that's a very bad comparison. Mondragon is a relatively 'old' gamer these days and he's still doin good. If old gamers never quit this game they would've still been on top I think. Exception are maybe some players who were succesfull only because of their unpredictableness and creative strategies. But most old gamers back in the day also had basic macro skills :p
I wish all these legends still played.

I speak about the foreign scene here. In Korea, it's obviously different..


of course the oldies profit from their long term accumulation of skill and sustainment and there are some exceptions who still beat the youngsters (as stated in my previous post). but statistically you don't have the reaction time of a 15 year old at the age of 25 and thus making it hard for you to still keep the pace. it's experience vs. young dynamics. but we've been all over this before..

after all it was just a theoretical question of mine if slayer can still bring the same performance as in '01 if he tries really hard.. would be interesting to know but rather unlikely that we will see it, not even in sc2. if he is indeed father now he won't have time to nerd sc2 24/7. the only thing possible would be a near empirical approach (hypothetically) to measure the time of all the well known foreigners which they invest in sc2, consider their age, and see how succesful they are with what they invest. you'll then get a cost/effect figure and... whatev... it's only the mathematical version of what fisheye already said... slayer would prolly still have the highest figure as a player "one out of a million".
o_O
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
July 11 2008 14:58 GMT
#298
On July 11 2008 02:16 Ghardo wrote:
but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.)


Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04

Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
July 11 2008 15:30 GMT
#299
On July 11 2008 23:58 meRz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2008 02:16 Ghardo wrote:
but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.)


Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04

Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year.


I remember that, I watched the nordic WCG closely as I was rooting for my (TE) teammates (that time being Gos-Chaso, a swedish terran who retired shortly thereafter iirc, and Arcneon, whom you might now as today's iG.Madclaw, a finnish protoss). I was amazed at Slayer's play, having only heard about him before (2002 was before my time of online SC), knowing he didn't practice at all those past two years...

He is some real talent, I tell ya
Complete the cycle!
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
July 11 2008 15:36 GMT
#300
On July 12 2008 00:30 Naib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2008 23:58 meRz wrote:
On July 11 2008 02:16 Ghardo wrote:
but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.)


Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04

Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year.


I remember that, I watched the nordic WCG closely as I was rooting for my (TE) teammates (that time being Gos-Chaso, a swedish terran who retired shortly thereafter iirc, and Arcneon, whom you might now as today's iG.Madclaw, a finnish protoss). I was amazed at Slayer's play, having only heard about him before (2002 was before my time of online SC), knowing he didn't practice at all those past two years...

He is some real talent, I tell ya


Yeah I know all about Chaso and Arcneon. I've met Chaso several times at offline events, and Arcneon played in our team as a smurf a couple of times back in the days orzhady(TE) knew him pretty well, so he did it as a favour ;O Don't know if he was in (TE) at the same time as you?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
July 11 2008 15:58 GMT
#301
On July 12 2008 00:36 meRz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2008 00:30 Naib wrote:
On July 11 2008 23:58 meRz wrote:
On July 11 2008 02:16 Ghardo wrote:
but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.)


Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04

Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year.


I remember that, I watched the nordic WCG closely as I was rooting for my (TE) teammates (that time being Gos-Chaso, a swedish terran who retired shortly thereafter iirc, and Arcneon, whom you might now as today's iG.Madclaw, a finnish protoss). I was amazed at Slayer's play, having only heard about him before (2002 was before my time of online SC), knowing he didn't practice at all those past two years...

He is some real talent, I tell ya


Yeah I know all about Chaso and Arcneon. I've met Chaso several times at offline events, and Arcneon played in our team as a smurf a couple of times back in the days orzhady(TE) knew him pretty well, so he did it as a favour ;O Don't know if he was in (TE) at the same time as you?


He was, I have some vague memories (TE) was my first international clan (and a not too shabby one, nice players in there - our manager gave us kinda a bad reputation though, he had conflicts with WGT admins all the time ), and I was very proud that I did well in the internal tourneys we had.

The only thing I value more about my SC-"career" than that is the time right after (TE) fell apart, and somehow I got into 88)

The old times...
Complete the cycle!
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-11 16:29:16
July 11 2008 16:28 GMT
#302
On a sidenote: whatever happened to clawson?

Is he still with iG.?
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
July 11 2008 23:33 GMT
#303
it's simple why there are a few ex broodwar players in poker and doing well. These guys have been sitting around most of their lives doing jack squat. i like how some people like to draw up mythic explanations as to why elky does so well in poker or rekrul for that matter, but i mean gaming just has so many non-professional young people who can sit for extended hours. What else are they suppose to do?
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2894 Posts
July 11 2008 23:36 GMT
#304
On July 12 2008 08:33 gg_hertzz wrote:
it's simple why there are a few ex broodwar players in poker and doing well. These guys have been sitting around most of their lives doing jack squat. i like how some people like to draw up mythic explanations as to why elky does so well in poker or rekrul for that matter, but i mean gaming just has so many non-professional young people who can sit for extended hours. What else are they suppose to do?

agreed
FiSheYe
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany53 Posts
July 15 2008 01:37 GMT
#305
that is pure rubbish and I don't understand how someone can write it down and find someone to agree.
Poker is a game of strategy as Starcraft is. There are similarities but also differences. People who are very creative in Starcraft, beeing able to look behind mechanics and have that strategic mind set, have qualities that are necessary for poker as well.
Furtheremore poker requires tremendous selfmanagement skillz such as psychological stability, beeing ableto disregard real money and rather look at every time at the most expected value per move. There is a long list, why topnotch Starcraft players such as Slayer and many more have become millionaires.
Obviously playing hours Starcraft or doing the same with poker is just an easy change for those people.
If there were only a few $ to be made, most good players wouldn't have started...
But if someone like Slayer is able to accumulate 7 figures in a year, setting himself up for life and starting a family at the age of maybe 25, who would seriously say like "what else could he have done?".
That guy is a genius and he should deserve respect.
Do you look at Kasperov and say, hmm he was a weird guy anyways, what else could he have done except for chess? Maybe those people are what you could consider one sided when it comes to talent, I am in no position to judge..
Anyways fact is there are millions of poker players out there and there is a reason why few super players changed to poker and became successful, luck is not involved neither mythical explanations. Those who make that much money are around the top 0,01% of the player pool overall and I guess they were around that number in Starcraft as well.
Coincidence?

MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-15 19:38:10
July 15 2008 19:30 GMT
#306
Wow I was honestly thinking about starting up poker myself as well but from what yo just said there fisheye, but now I think I'll just pass up on that as what you said made alot of sense. The top players of poker like elky and all the old schoolers who made the switch from sc to poker have been top players in Korea and like you said only make up 0.01% of the pool of successful poker players. It seems(like u said)that these are very special ppl that are born with the mind to go above and beyond the mechanics and distinguish themselves from all the others in order to succeed. Your saying this isn't just some rubbish that u can be good at by playing everyday for hours and does requires level of skill comparable to sc and the top players have the discipline and that "natural talent"(we'll just use this for now)to separate themselves from everyone else and earn so much to earn a living off of it. Well to be honest I don't think I'm blessed with this "natural talent" so with money involved I think it will just be wise for me not to get involved with this as i would stand a better chance getting good at star and winning money through winning foreigner tourneys like TSL or something(I'm not saying I'm good enough to win the TSL but a more realistic dream than to earn a living from pokAr(poker)who have the natural talent).

Oh, and i love how after baal and tiffany is so set on their opinions that Slayer is DEFINITELY not the best that they both had to "correct" poor DickDodgers who might actually have been right and even known more than them(although reading that post carefully makes me realize that isn't so)and then maynard comes out of the blue and this whole thread shifts from the ignorance that is slayer and is educated among many old schoolers who also pops up about how slayer is or could've been one of the greatest sc players to play this game. I also learned this too as I always considered Grrr.. the best forgiener.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
July 15 2008 20:15 GMT
#307
Slayer was far beyond any foreigners when it comes to starcraft, he got great after the boom in Korea and was probably the only one to be on the same level as the veryvery best koreans.

Grrr dominated for sure, but dropped once the koreans started getting really good, probably lacking dedication, but also mechanics. Slayer was just as fast as the top koreans and in a time where koreans played very basic his strategics were on a level beyond theirs.

Grr was just another good player to me the first time i saw him play.
Slayer amazed me just as much as Nada did the first time i saw him.
Those two are also whom i regard as the greatest players ever, foreigner and korean.
Not even close.

On a sidenote Kasparov could do else then chess, since he quit and is now into politics as one of the leaders in the opposition of Putin.
h e l l o e
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2894 Posts
July 15 2008 22:20 GMT
#308
this is such a good documentary

best one i've seen of sc
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
July 15 2008 23:11 GMT
#309
That was really cool. Thanks for the YouTube link + bump.
Olorin
Profile Joined May 2008
Norway4 Posts
October 23 2008 17:32 GMT
#310
If you wonder how much money he has earned (Public Tax Data)

Check here:



Anyway, he has a fortune of ~ 10 000 000 NOK

Where 1$ = 6 NOK

I started playing Starcraft because of this documentary, It was really fun to see it once again, so thanks for the upload.

I'll never forget Slayer's tremendous skill and I regard him as the BIGGEST talent in SC:BW history. It's sad that he stopped playing so early (and when he was so good that he was compared to how much he actually practiced..), but who can blame him? He's a very rich 25 year old man in Norway. Not many are able to earn so much money on their own.

Let's hope he will return for SC2 and dominate like he did back in 2000
Chuck Norris knows the last digits of pi
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
October 23 2008 18:49 GMT
#311
wheres this money from?
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
October 23 2008 19:49 GMT
#312
WoW, didnt know he was this ritch
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
October 23 2008 19:54 GMT
#313
On October 24 2008 03:49 slained wrote:
wheres this money from?

Poker I think
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
October 23 2008 20:59 GMT
#314
If you ever want to see old school games like the ones from the documentary, check out the back pages of the tl.net replay archive. It's a mountain of gold! I recommend tomson (t) vs zergplay (z) on plains to hill. Search for it.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
October 23 2008 22:01 GMT
#315
On October 24 2008 04:54 Chanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 03:49 slained wrote:
wheres this money from?

Poker I think



Yes both play Poker, Slayer and Sven
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 31 2009 11:24 GMT
#316
On June 14 2004 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online.

slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school.


bump.

it's been a year since this documentary has been bumped (original thread is from 2004.) and a lot of new people are on TL.net that "do know know the history".

yesterday i was watching some poker videos of Elky and bumped into a slayer documentary, i think it needs to be seen again. For a clip that was made in the year 2000 and is about gaming, i think it is much better presented than other new Fox news crap like documentary videos.

so here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA

on this topic you can read posts from pG players, Maynard, NTT and other old school players.
enjoy

/bow
I am not good with quotes
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 31 2009 12:32 GMT
#317
this was one of the coolest vids i ever saw

bw related

( back in 03 or what it was. )
hatred outlives the hateful
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 23:31:01
September 07 2011 23:25 GMT
#318
Sorry to have it bump, but its one of the best documentaries made about SC, and seeing foreigner dominating almost full Korean tournament brings tears to my eyes (seems kinda unlikely to ever happen again).

Also documentary while being made in 2001 still looks very fresh. Enjoy!

[Youtube links 2 posts above.]

Stork[gm]
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 07 2011 23:37 GMT
#319
On June 13 2004 17:41 NewbSaibot wrote:
and then what, who the hell is gonna have 170megs of webspace to host that on? Or be willing to give to anybody for someone else to host.


This was really funny to see before I looked at the date.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
September 07 2011 23:56 GMT
#320
Wasn't Slayer one of the fastest player back then?
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
September 07 2011 23:56 GMT
#321
On September 08 2011 08:37 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2004 17:41 NewbSaibot wrote:
and then what, who the hell is gonna have 170megs of webspace to host that on? Or be willing to give to anybody for someone else to host.


This was really funny to see before I looked at the date.

LOL yeah.
thanks for the bump! can't believe i missed this. Man, all this nostalgia, seeing the 2007 MSL finals Day[9], Nony commentary, and now this.
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
September 08 2011 00:06 GMT
#322
Wow, some really nice bumps past few days. This is the first I've seen of this as well, sooooo cool. Heh, by the end of this year the whole sidebar will be just bumped 04-07 threads.
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
September 08 2011 00:31 GMT
#323
On September 08 2011 08:56 Tomken wrote:
Wasn't Slayer one of the fastest player back then?


THE fastest player if I'm not mistaken. He started the whole APM trend iirc.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
September 08 2011 00:37 GMT
#324
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 31 2009 20:24 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online.

slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school.


bump.

it's been a year since this documentary has been bumped (original thread is from 2004.) and a lot of new people are on TL.net that "do know know the history".

yesterday i was watching some poker videos of Elky and bumped into a slayer documentary, i think it needs to be seen again. For a clip that was made in the year 2000 and is about gaming, i think it is much better presented than other new Fox news crap like documentary videos.

so here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA

on this topic you can read posts from pG players, Maynard, NTT and other old school players.
enjoy

/bow


why do they have so many thumbs down on youtube?
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
September 08 2011 00:38 GMT
#325
--- Nuked ---
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
September 08 2011 00:47 GMT
#326
On September 08 2011 09:38 3xiLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 09:31 ludic123 wrote:
On September 08 2011 08:56 Tomken wrote:
Wasn't Slayer one of the fastest player back then?


THE fastest player if I'm not mistaken. He started the whole APM trend iirc.


I saw this documentary again recently before It was bumped.

Out of curiosity What was his apm actually?


If i remember correctly it was around 200
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
September 08 2011 00:57 GMT
#327
--- Nuked ---
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
September 08 2011 02:25 GMT
#328
Yep the only thing I don't remember correctly is if Blackman was playing around the time Slayers was, because blackman had like 300 apm mostly playing against custom ai scripts for training and then traveling like 2 hours to the nearest lan center lololol
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
September 08 2011 12:46 GMT
#329
On September 08 2011 09:37 Sina92 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 31 2009 20:24 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2004 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online.

slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school.


bump.

it's been a year since this documentary has been bumped (original thread is from 2004.) and a lot of new people are on TL.net that "do know know the history".

yesterday i was watching some poker videos of Elky and bumped into a slayer documentary, i think it needs to be seen again. For a clip that was made in the year 2000 and is about gaming, i think it is much better presented than other new Fox news crap like documentary videos.

so here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA

on this topic you can read posts from pG players, Maynard, NTT and other old school players.
enjoy

/bow


why do they have so many thumbs down on youtube?


Because people mistake it for being a documentary about the metal band Slayer. When they find out its really about a skinny nerd playing computer games, they pump their skinny pale fists against the computer screen because of the HUGE letdown. Poor guys. It can not be easy sharing the spotlight with GG99 Slayer.


village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
September 08 2011 14:00 GMT
#330
On June 13 2004 17:41 NewbSaibot wrote:
and then what, who the hell is gonna have 170megs of webspace to host that on? Or be willing to give to anybody for someone else to host.

LOL!

Those were the days.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
September 08 2011 14:38 GMT
#331
On June 13 2004 18:12 GTR-2-Go_au wrote:
hasuwar still wanna play that basketball game? -_-;;

i was very surprised at the size, 169meg for a 30min video file, must be quality etc. i thought it was somewhere from 50meg-100meg ><

I find this even more fun, lol.. Glad those days are over!
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#332
LOL a whole day for 170 megs

I don't miss those days
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
simansh
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
257 Posts
September 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#333
a whole whopping 170 megs lol..
#1 Zenex Line fan!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 15:08:27
September 08 2011 15:07 GMT
#334
hey, i had dial-up back then with a 500mb download limit, give me a fucking break
Commentator
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
September 08 2011 15:23 GMT
#335
On September 08 2011 11:25 Trowabarton756 wrote:
Yep the only thing I don't remember correctly is if Blackman was playing around the time Slayers was, because blackman had like 300 apm mostly playing against custom ai scripts for training and then traveling like 2 hours to the nearest lan center lololol


I think that was kinda later than 1999-2000 era. Btw i remember seeing blackman in some news in tv after wcg succes or was it in press ?
Stork[gm]
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
September 08 2011 15:45 GMT
#336
On September 08 2011 11:25 Trowabarton756 wrote:
Yep the only thing I don't remember correctly is if Blackman was playing around the time Slayers was, because blackman had like 300 apm mostly playing against custom ai scripts for training and then traveling like 2 hours to the nearest lan center lololol


Blackman was playing like 5 years after that I believe
GLLvz
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway122 Posts
September 08 2011 17:24 GMT
#337

the link was broken.

PART1
PART2
PART3
Lvz
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 08 2011 17:49 GMT
#338
Damn I remember my first time watching this, was during studyhall in 8th grade there was like half the class surrounding the comp while the teacher sat at her desk reading.


Too bad we don't have those stylist spacesuits anymore, they were so sexy
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
September 08 2011 18:15 GMT
#339
Just watched it again..wow, what a life time ago. I sure miss those days of playing starcraft, with no responsibility or problems or anything. Just pure and simple enjoyment.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
September 08 2011 18:21 GMT
#340
holy crap. slayer is such an old school bw player.

I remember him from back in those days, even before boxer came up.

This guy is my favorite non korean player of all time. Incredibly talented and awesome player. As time went on, he wasn't around as much, I think at the time I just assumed he lost interest in bw or had other priorities.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
September 08 2011 19:28 GMT
#341
On September 09 2011 00:07 GTR wrote:
hey, i had dial-up back then with a 500mb download limit, give me a fucking break

happy b-day!
amazing bumps lately, i don't mind reading such threads like this one, from prehistory
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
September 08 2011 20:56 GMT
#342
I remember when this aired on Norwegian TV! My parents actually started to respect my gaming a lot more when they saw that you could make a career out of it.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
September 09 2011 00:31 GMT
#343
On September 08 2011 09:38 Phyrigian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 09:31 ludic123 wrote:
On September 08 2011 08:56 Tomken wrote:
Wasn't Slayer one of the fastest player back then?


THE fastest player if I'm not mistaken. He started the whole APM trend iirc.


I saw this documentary again recently before It was bumped.

Out of curiosity What was his apm actually?


I watched a lot of his replays back in the day, and he usually hovered around 220-240. He was way ahead of his time, both in mechanics and build orders. A truly talented guy.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-16 16:07:25
July 16 2021 16:00 GMT
#344
Bumping this because I had a bit of a nostalgia bug and found this on YouTube.
Unfortunately no subtitles though.



IMO, Slayer was definitely up there with Nada in terms of talent. Even Grrrr... said he was the best foreigner when he came for the KBK tournament in 2000. Who knows what could have happened if he ended up getting into an international school in Seoul while balancing progaming.

EDIT: Also apparently I had another account but I must've forgotten the password to it.
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway646 Posts
July 16 2021 16:17 GMT
#345
I could do subtitles to that. Is it hard to edit that into a vid?
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
July 17 2021 03:48 GMT
#346
omg epic necrobump.

I love the first page of comments about how mind blowingly enormous 170MB was loooooool
aka Moletrap
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-17 04:25:13
July 17 2021 04:25 GMT
#347
Thanks for the interesting bump.

On July 17 2021 12:48 Moletrap wrote:
omg epic necrobump.

I love the first page of comments about how mind blowingly enormous 170MB was loooooool

Indeed though having to download that at max 1-2 kb/s and hope no one calls at that time was an exercise in patience haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 17 2021 05:00 GMT
#348
Feel like in 2004 though most people had Cable internet, or at least DSL?
blabberrrrr
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51408 Posts
July 17 2021 05:18 GMT
#349
australia where i lived was literally third world internet back in the early 2000s. i didn't get the ability to acquire a dsl connection until 2005-2006ish.
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ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-17 06:22:31
July 17 2021 06:15 GMT
#350
Awesome thread and awesome bumps.

Below are some transcripts of interviews with Slayer. I stumbled upon them while recently wallowing in the memories of the 2000 era and checking out his Liquipedia page

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/20886-old-interview-of-slayer

http://web.archive.org/web/20010204000700/http://www.theaddict.org/slayer.shtml

http://web.archive.org/web/20041014053708/http://starcraftgamers.com/nyheter.php?i=n&id=1253

Long live [GG]!


edit: Some of you dinosaurs might remember these articles from back in the day:
http://web.archive.org/web/20000325065149/http://www.starcraft.org/newsarchives.shtml

Here's one of my favourites:

http://web.archive.org/web/20000816154912/http://www.nukewinter.com/sc/strategies/protoss/da_attack/

Dark Archon Attack - By Zmmax (Edited by Ace)

"Yes, thats right a Dark Archon attack. This is one of those strategies that isn't exactly something you shouldnt already know how to do. But the thing is, people never use it. All you have to do is use the dark templar rush and dont attack with them, summon Dark Archons. You'll need to get the energy and mind control upgrade. As soon as ur Dark Archons are charged and ready to go stick them outside an enemy base. While they are charging, periodically attack the enemy with zealots and dragoons to annoy and lower their defenses. When the Dark Archons are in place, take them inside the enemy base and simply use mind control on either all the most powerful units they have at the time, or thier peons. Using this will enable you to perform either a good sized attack without losing any or your units or starving them by controllig thier peons. The only thing to remember is to have your Dark Archons fully charged before performing this."
"Disadvantages:
- You could get screwed by going quick technology
- Your opponent could kill your Dark Archons before you cast your spells
- You mind control ¼ their units, kill the other ¼, and the other half dominates you.


Optimal Outcomes:
- You could mind control most of their main units, giving you a major advantage in the battle, thus winning you the game.
- You could take over most of their powerful units, leaving your units to have an advantage in the battle.


Realistically:
Okay folks, lets get realistic here. Most likely, you'll have a few dragoons / zealots and maybe 2-3 Dark Archons. You'll be feeling all good about yourself, and head straight into the enemy base. You'll probably lose 1-2 of your Dark Archons heading into the battle, along with a few of your militant units. This will leave you with about 1 archon, and a few zealots, not too impressive of an attack, eh?
Another thing that will probably happen is that you'll go quick technology, and get rushed. How can you prevent this? Well, the obvious thing, cannons. If you keep a small supply of dragoons / zealots at a choke point with a few cannons, you should be set to go quick technology. But in doing this, you're allowing your opponent to build up. So by the time you send out your attack, they could have a massive force.
In order to use this tactic effectively, you'll need to have at least 5 Dark Archons. Since you'll have the technology buildings, it wouldn't hurt to get a reaver or two to help out your attack.

Good luck trying this one out! It could go one of two ways. Let me know how it goes!"

https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 17 2021 13:08 GMT
#351
[Nordic] Well. thanks alot for giving me the time to interview you, this will be up on http://gosu.cjb.net within an hour .. Any last shoutouts?
[[iDEF]Slayer] no, I hate everyone
[Nordic] Ok
[[iDEF]Slayer] =[
[Nordic]

haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Return
Profile Joined June 2005
Ivory Coast856 Posts
July 17 2021 15:16 GMT
#352
On July 17 2021 01:17 Timebon3s wrote:
I could do subtitles to that. Is it hard to edit that into a vid?


that would be cool!
Diiiscoo-oh, thats where the happy people go!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia12999 Posts
July 18 2021 03:07 GMT
#353
On July 17 2021 14:18 GTR wrote:
australia where i lived was literally third world internet back in the early 2000s. i didn't get the ability to acquire a dsl connection until 2005-2006ish.

I remember finally getting DSL in the mids 2000s and being able to watch this new thing called YouTube. Was amazing.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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