enjoy, but its 169 meg -_-;;; could someone please convert it to wmv or asf?
[GG99]Slayer documentry
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GTR-2-Go_au
Australia315 Posts
enjoy, but its 169 meg -_-;;; could someone please convert it to wmv or asf? | ||
NewbSaibot
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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hasuwar
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hasuwar
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
sven in it too :o lol, even maynard | ||
gunkyman
United States98 Posts
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radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
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AK-Nemesis
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
Imagine that pressure he had to be under having a cam crew follow him around on his trip, on top of competeing in such a big tournament, and having people around him watch. But I guess his family watched him play at home, so it wasn't that bad..I wish my family showed me that kind of supporT! T_T | ||
radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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hasuwar
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GTR-2-Go_au
Australia315 Posts
i was very surprised at the size, 169meg for a 30min video file, must be quality etc. i thought it was somewhere from 50meg-100meg >< | ||
hasuwar
7365 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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Hot77.iEy
Finland1486 Posts
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karelen
Sweden2407 Posts
On June 13 2004 18:29 Hot77.iEy wrote: Cool! I understand swedish very well and norwegian is just like swedish but spoken like with a pound of cheese in your throat and many yodling sounds. ![]() lol, yeah norwegian and danish is just plain weird ![]() | ||
NewbSaibot
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NoNameLoser
United States1508 Posts
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AnOther
565 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
i guess he was pretty nervous at that time | ||
NoNameLoser
United States1508 Posts
On June 13 2004 19:01 NoNameLoser wrote: there is no need to convert it in those formats if you use VLC. by this i meant that not only vlc plays all avi files but also can view them without need to download. However, the source must provide bandwidth equivalent to total bitrate otherwise you need to download the file first, which is the case here. | ||
TLKiD
China1136 Posts
![]() I think it shoud be easier since we have Leg Giyom Assem and Rekrul is on his way ![]() | ||
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United States1289 Posts
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Born)Slippy
Norway1904 Posts
On June 13 2004 18:10 FrozenArbiter wrote: I could probably translate it if I knew how to make softsubs :D Though a norweigan would be better I guess ![]() Wtf Arbiter, you can barely understand ME when I speak Norwegian. | ||
karelen
Sweden2407 Posts
especially liked when slayer met maynard for the first time at the venue where there is a lot of computers and slayer has sat down at one of them.. (slayer)-hi, are you maynard (holds out his hand to shake hand with maynard) (maynard)-dude, you are using my computer!! (slayer)-sorry, they said it was ok.. (looks uncomfortable) rofl | ||
hasuwar
7365 Posts
On June 13 2004 20:00 Born)Slippy wrote: Wtf Arbiter, you can barely understand ME when I speak Norwegian. You just volunteered yourself to make soft subs, thanks! | ||
RaiZ
2813 Posts
It would be funnier to see what they're all talking too. Also Sven, it was the first time i see him at a close distance. I never imagined he would be like a good looking person. :p Anyway this documentary rox fo sho ![]() | ||
Talith
United States1102 Posts
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
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Yarertz
Djibouti1891 Posts
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DickDodgers
62 Posts
Actually its 100% true. The whole scene was acted. The meeting occured prior to that off camera. EDIT #2: That's not what I meant. - mensrea | ||
GrandSmurf
Netherlands462 Posts
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
divx mpeg-4 low motion fraunhofer iis mpeg layer-3 codec filemirror.com this: klcodec225f.exe it's around 8 megs | ||
Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
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DickDodgers
62 Posts
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baal
10533 Posts
On June 13 2004 22:25 DickDodgers wrote: Slayer is the best BW player ever. ![]() | ||
DickDodgers
62 Posts
Meaning? He absolutely is. | ||
tiffany
3664 Posts
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DickDodgers
62 Posts
I don't appreciate you guys denying slayers greatness. | ||
Zerius[TPR]
Canada1633 Posts
On June 13 2004 22:51 DickDodgers wrote: I don't appreciate you guys denying slayers greatness. ![]() | ||
littlechava
United States7216 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Zerius[TPR]
Canada1633 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
I think people should listen to him. | ||
Maynard
United States889 Posts
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Blind
United States2528 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 13 2004 23:45 FiGhtAsBlind wrote: On the last part, did he win? I was confused because I don't know if he plays terran or zerg. I think I remember him playing both in some reps. Yes he won. | ||
radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 14 2004 00:00 radiaL wrote: Maynard, care to write a long and sexy post to educate all us non-oldschoolers as to why that is so? ![]() About to go to bed maybe tomorrow. I regret not keeping a detailed journal while in Korea. It would of served so many well. A detailed description of my experiences after the fact would of been nice as well. Lets just say that his creativity and instinct was on another level. | ||
hasu
Bulgaria79 Posts
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L!MP
Australia2067 Posts
is that elky on the left ?? | ||
nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
On June 14 2004 00:19 hasu wrote: DL is worthing at least because of seeing NTT which one is NTT? i neva seen a pic of him or anything plz point out !! | ||
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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Zerius[TPR]
Canada1633 Posts
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hasuwar
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tiffany
3664 Posts
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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TanGo
Sweden1019 Posts
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emerton
Norway167 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Da kan egentlig du f gleden, jeg skal flytte i morgen og skrive SKY reports p onsdag, s det hadde passet bra ![]() | ||
emerton
Norway167 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
Bye! | ||
TanGo
Sweden1019 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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Typhoon
196 Posts
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
On June 14 2004 00:29 L!MP wrote: check out the video at time 22:39 is that elky on the left ?? yap^^ | ||
InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On June 14 2004 05:25 hasuwar wrote: google, type in GSpot, download it, run it on the avi, see which codec you are missing Thx, I think I did it right DIV3 I think is missing. Does that sound right?You just d/l it and open the Vod right? That 4CC thing is the missing codec thingy Yes? If so how do i replace it? | ||
Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
On June 13 2004 23:33 Maynard wrote: Slayer is the best BW player ever. He was the best i've ever seen by a longshot and i've seen all the Korean pros you all speak of. If he had the desire to be a pro in Korea he would of dominated as Boxer did. ![]() | ||
Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 13 2004 20:00 Born)Slippy wrote: Wtf Arbiter, you can barely understand ME when I speak Norwegian. I can :O Sven's norweigan > Slayers though ![]() | ||
MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 06:03 MPXMX wrote: Great film... Indeed~ Whenever I see this kind of stuff or even just some program like monthly gamer on ongamenet.. I just wish I was there-- To me, it seems so perfect ; o | ||
Overlord
Romania651 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
but it is only speculations, so it doesnt really matter anyway. The fact is that he isnt the greatest player of all time, and we all know it | ||
Totoro
France479 Posts
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NTT (yep)
Netherlands5 Posts
Thanks for the link! -NTT | ||
Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
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MPXMX
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Gp.Lao
Belgium445 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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NTT (yep)
Netherlands5 Posts
It definitely brings back a lot of memories. ^_^; Oh and Maynard is 100% correct in saying Slayer is the best BW player ever. From never having played SC to being the best at BW is a remarkable accomplishment. -NTT | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Btw, I think Garimto and Boxer should be considered for most talented player ever as well.. Especially Garimto who wasn't even a real pro ~_~ | ||
Overlord
Romania651 Posts
And i think definitely Boxer brought soo many things to the game, he is undoubtedly the best ever. And as far as i know Grrr... owned the rest of the world for the longest period. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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ggt
France58 Posts
It's obvious in the documentry that he was offered to be progamer. But he refuses ![]() | ||
hasuwar
7365 Posts
Sven and Slayer supposedly started playing again, when will we see NTT enter the circuit? | ||
KhresT
Brazil187 Posts
If someone do subtitles for english will rule the world! ![]() | ||
i-Sonic
152 Posts
Where can we find that KBK 2000 vod download? Do they even have it anywhere? | ||
Misca
Netherlands605 Posts
Time? | ||
tomson
Poland641 Posts
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Misca
Netherlands605 Posts
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hasuwar
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
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Talith
United States1102 Posts
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SW)RIF
United States563 Posts
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Twitt
United States733 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 09:51 Twitt wrote: Slayer was a 280-300+ apm gamer back then as far as I know, which was sickenly fast to everyone else. Except maybe arang ![]() | ||
Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
Just check Heaven's action distribution, if you think 400 apm with 50% hotkey is a fast player then yeah koreans are much faster than Slayer for you ;(. Also it's not just about action distribution but it matters if he's just clicking like a madman on one screen or multitasking well. Some people just have the natural speed, being a progamer and playing 10 hours a day can raise your speed a lot but not as much as having it in your genes | ||
hasuwar
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 10:52 hasuwar wrote: yeah..about the nada with 300apm comment. That's with a ton of hotkey usage..slayer was playing 250+ with mostly his mouse speed, not smashing his keyboard :O Which is the same as boxer of today/past 2 years o_O (though maybe not at the time of slayers reign) | ||
Kpone
France167 Posts
On June 14 2004 10:42 Breeze wrote: Slayer wasn't hotkeying his army, he was hotkeying only his buildings... try doing that with a huge mmf army against lurkers and stuff while also building from 10 rax with your hotkeys. Mr.X was saying he didn't want to watch Slayer play, because he could hardly see the cursor and it was making him feel sick and was also bad for his own confidence. He doesn't feel sick when he watches Didi, or Boxer or the other Koreans he saw at kbk and wcg, so that gives you an idea how fast Slayer was back then. Just check Heaven's action distribution, if you think 400 apm with 50% hotkey is a fast player then yeah koreans are much faster than Slayer for you ;(. Also it's not just about action distribution but it matters if he's just clicking like a madman on one screen or multitasking well. Some people just have the natural speed, being a progamer and playing 10 hours a day can raise your speed a lot but not as much as having it in your genes How can anyone micro mm/tank/vessel without hotkey ?????? i really don't understand. Even with fast mouse stimming and avoiding lurkers with 2/3 dozen of rine must a real pain in the ass. | ||
Kpone
France167 Posts
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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Sweden1368 Posts
he had a strange way of using his hand on the keyboard, like: left little finger on the left control and the thumb all the way by 0, o, p etc Nada, Xellos etc is simply faster though, but it was shocking to see in a time where most of the other top players had way less than 200. Elky was actually one of the slowest people i have ever seen when i saw him play, no way he had over 120-130 at that time. Boxer used to be almost as fast with the mouse at that time, but Slayer had a LOT better accuracy, that's what made it so fast. | ||
AK-Nemesis
2005 Posts
On June 14 2004 12:06 Kpone wrote: How can anyone micro mm/tank/vessel without hotkey ?????? i really don't understand. Even with fast mouse stimming and avoiding lurkers with 2/3 dozen of rine must a real pain in the ass. that's why slayer's a legend | ||
AK-Nemesis
2005 Posts
On June 14 2004 09:21 MPXMX wrote: What were the results that tournament? Top 5, anyone? I remember NTT saying he didn't like the organization - from an interview, although maybe it was about some other kbk. i think NTT meant the preliminary qualification organization of the KBK. i remember he said something like everyone cheated and created multiple accounts or play only with the same ppl. | ||
Hoops
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28608 Posts
I quit trying to become good afterwards because his speed convinced me I could never become as good as him no matter how much I practiced. and he wasn't only fast either, but also really smart! (and if not for the fact that he quit playing for almost 2 years, I would never have been as good as him either. ) im in agreement with everyone claiming he was the best/most talented ever. and he gave me a coke woohoo that was such a happy moment | ||
Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 14 2004 15:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: I remember when I first watched slayer play irl, met him at this lan party called the gathering right before he won kbk. I quit trying to become good afterwards because his speed convinced me I could never become as good as him no matter how much I practiced. and he wasn't only fast either, but also really smart! (and if not for the fact that he quit playing for almost 2 years, I would never have been as good as him either. ) im in agreement with everyone claiming he was the best/most talented ever. and he gave me a coke woohoo that was such a happy moment I think a distinction needs to be made between apm(the gold standard here) and the speed someone like slayer had. APM means you click buttons and keys very fast. I've seen some players who hands move like crazy and click like mad sometimes, example smuft and chrh, but thats all their speed really entails, telling an scv to move to a location 60 times, flipping back hotkey groups 1-2-3-4-5-6 over and over and over. I would regularly see these plays make mistakes because they were busy "being fast". These people should not be considered "fast" despite their apm numbers. Slayer was extremely fast without all that filler bullcrap. Seriously why does everyone here get on an apm kick as if its the final word? Shouldnt too high of an apm make you think that there is a lot of useless clicking that could distract from gameplay? | ||
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Rekrul
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5413 Posts
On June 14 2004 16:07 Maynard wrote: I think a distinction needs to be made between apm(the gold standard here) and the speed someone like slayer had. APM means you click buttons and keys very fast. I've seen some players who hands move like crazy and click like mad sometimes, example smuft and chrh, but thats all their speed really entails, telling an scv to move to a location 60 times, flipping back hotkey groups 1-2-3-4-5-6 over and over and over. I would regularly see these plays make mistakes because they were busy "being fast". These people should not be considered "fast" despite their apm numbers. Slayer was extremely fast without all that filler bullcrap. Seriously why does everyone here get on an apm kick as if its the final word? Shouldnt too high of an apm make you think that there is a lot of useless clicking that could distract from gameplay? amen... my friend went to a LAN, his APM is like 70-80, and he was beating players that were 180+ (this was in war3, but the same logic still applies) saying that 180+ APM users repeat the same action needlessly, like move herex20... what's the point? move herex1, new unit etc... i know most people dont right click the same action x20, but still, i'm sure some people do to make it look like their APM is so high =/ | ||
Maynard
United States889 Posts
Hopefully ive changed since then. =[ | ||
emerton
Norway167 Posts
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AK-Nemesis
2005 Posts
much thanks! | ||
i-Sonic
152 Posts
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Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
On June 14 2004 16:27 emerton wrote: i have made subs. i will post it tomorrow. hurry and post that | ||
Totoro
France479 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Talith
United States1102 Posts
On June 14 2004 16:25 Maynard wrote: I seriously cant get over how homosexual i look and sound. I need to act more macho. Hopefully ive changed since then. =[ Oh you have cutey pie! You have ![]() Got Manner? | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28608 Posts
slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote: frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online. slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school. Thank you ![]() | ||
Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28608 Posts
I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good. ![]() | ||
Maynard
United States889 Posts
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LogaiN
Sweden1073 Posts
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Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:16 Liquid`Drone wrote: slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good. ![]() hahaha elastomania!!!! bring back memories | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:16 Liquid`Drone wrote: slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good. ![]() Elastomania? | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:19 Maynard wrote: It is easier to respect someone who did not practice 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a year to get good. Actually I kind of have more respect for someone who dedicate that kind of time to something.. Amazing work ethic (and really, we don't know how good he would have gotten had he practiced the korean way). I have a different kind of respect for slayer I guess (I mean, I might have thought different if, as drone said, I was there and saw him play) ![]() | ||
Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
you need to control that guy with his bike trough crazy stages here is a screenshot ![]() looks crappy but its so addictive ... I got trough all 48 lvls or so. | ||
Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:29 FrozenArbiter wrote: Actually I kind of have more respect for someone who dedicate that kind of time to something.. Amazing work ethic (and really, we don't know how good he would have gotten had he practiced the korean way). I have a different kind of respect for slayer I guess (I mean, I might have thought different if, as drone said, I was there and saw him play) ![]() Yes if it is focused at something other than brood war. It doesnt exactly take a "hard worker" to play 16 hours a day. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 19:01 Maynard wrote: Yes if it is focused at something other than brood war. It doesnt exactly take a "hard worker" to play 16 hours a day. It requires an enormous dedication to do it for so long O_O Garimto said that pros play 400 games a week when preparing for a tournament..That is something I'd be very hard pressed to do O_O I have played 14 hours a day for 3 days in a row during tltour. I was completely worn out and played like shit after a while O_O I managed like.. hm 60 games in 3 days. It's complete and utter dedication to the game, quite amazing o_o | ||
Maynard
United States889 Posts
It requires an enormous dedication to do it for so long O_O Garimto said that pros play 400 games a week when preparing for a tournament..That is something I'd be very hard pressed to do O_O I have played 14 hours a day for 3 days in a row during tltour. I was completely worn out and played like shit after a while O_O I managed like.. hm 60 games in 3 days. It's complete and utter dedication to the game, quite amazing o_o It is not really constructive. It is like practicing nonstop to be the best at a video game. | ||
Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
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hasuwar
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i-Sonic
152 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:41 FadeToChaos wrote: Elastomania is a kind of motorbike simulation you need to control that guy with his bike trough crazy stages here is a screenshot ![]() looks crappy but its so addictive ... I got trough all 48 lvls or so. where do you find this game? i wanna try it out:D | ||
InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
On June 14 2004 05:36 InToTheWannaB wrote: Help anyone?Thx, I think I did it right DIV3 I think is missing. Does that sound right?You just d/l it and open the Vod right? That 4CC thing is the missing codec thingy Yes? If so how do i replace it? | ||
Dick
United States717 Posts
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radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
On June 14 2004 20:55 Dick wrote: That's what makes it so magical Wow, I love it how NTT and Maynard always view the forum but never post unless... ![]() And Maynard, I want a raincheck on that post! | ||
Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 14 2004 20:55 Dick wrote: Wow, I love it how NTT and Maynard always view the forum but never post unless... I've been coming here lately(past 1-2 weeks?) because I lack anything else to do. When a post like this is made it travels around through messages and stuff though. | ||
Abahgus
United States323 Posts
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[pG]RaGe
United States346 Posts
EDIT: lol @ Grrrr and Maynard about Slayer's hands:p Really they are fast and it looks like he has his left hand on the keyboard different than most gamers. His is on a slant and he has really long fingers:p | ||
Zerius[TPR]
Canada1633 Posts
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Ps : maybe i saw him once in a lan : Lan Arena 6 anyone can confirm if he has been there around ? | ||
Abahgus
United States323 Posts
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
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i-Sonic
152 Posts
for idiots who dont know what that meant, maynard is a fruit. | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
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TLKiD
China1136 Posts
On June 14 2004 21:08 mensrea wrote: That documentary was fun. Brought back a lot of memories. which one was u ?^^ | ||
TLKiD
China1136 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
Anyways, I'd really like to know what Slayer/NTT/Maynard/Thor are doing nowadays and how they look at their "BW-careers" in retrospect. Has it been a waste of time for them? Or maybe a good expirience? Or both? Are they still playing? And, if they are, are they feeling like getting old (like I do) and not being able to dominate the game the way they did at their prime. Drazzzt aka ShortNotice | ||
GTR-2-Go_au
Australia315 Posts
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forb
Norway218 Posts
Does anyone have the vods where Boxer 3-0ed him (i believe all 3 times tvz on rivalry)? I always wanted to see them, and thought maybe here would be a good place to ask. Yeah, i have all three. Don't know where to upload though. | ||
Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
I have nothing back up this claim, but I believe it! | ||
ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
but im considering playing again cause i read this | ||
emerton
Norway167 Posts
http://home.hesbynett.no/nicolai/Aliasslayersubsd/ I think you will need that Vodsub program so download that. (thanks comabreaded) I suggest you put the sub file in the same folder as the movie is in. And the subtitle file must have the same name as the movie. Enjoy. | ||
SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 22:37 Abahgus wrote: If given the time of playing all the pro koreans had, Slayer without a doubt would surpass them with ease. We don't know that.. His potential may have been godly, or it may not have been =] | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 14 2004 19:59 hasuwar wrote: That's like 60 games a day.. no one plays that much ![]() Maybe garimto was posting lies on his Pc Cafe (ask freezeternal -_-!) I believe he said they sometimes play 23 hours in a row o_O | ||
Yarertz
Djibouti1891 Posts
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Wirthi
Germany395 Posts
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Overlord
Romania651 Posts
On June 15 2004 00:38 travis wrote: at least one of the tvz's was lost temple. remember watching it. boxer metal rushed him. It was on Ice Temple and both of them played standard. Boxer won a great battle on the middle with nice micro. Second was on Legacy Of Char, Slayer swarm/lurk dropped and had great advantage but lost again to micro. Third was on Rivalry Slayer went hydra ling and Boxer killed him with rine/med/bat. | ||
Gp.Lao
Belgium445 Posts
{36276}{36320}-KBK is finished. {36358}{36414}-I won. {36724}{36804}-I have to go now. {36888}{36979}-Bye. haha art! | ||
jacen
Austria3644 Posts
when i think of what i did at this time (99-00) i feel so dull ... :/ | ||
HeMaN
275 Posts
sVEN was also very talented. As far as I know sven was the one teaching slayer BW in the first place. I saw this documentary years ago, it's very well done and even won a best documentary prize in norway. Pretty fun to see how many norwegians logged on brood war nor-1 just after this documentary aired. There is a lot of noteable people you can find in the background. For example it's Blizzards president Mike Morhaime giving the big check to slayer in the end. Slayer was like 16, 17? in this documentary, he started working out just before he got drafted. He is a lot bigger now. I heard sVEN started playing some again. I've seen him at WC3 a couple of times. No idea what slayer does. | ||
Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
{36053}{36092}-Its me. {36276}{36320}-KBK is finished. {36358}{36414}-I won. {36724}{36804}-Ten thousand bucks. {36888}{36979}-Buy vodka, prepare the tables. Bye. | ||
Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
Hard to imagine someone like Slayer quitting a game he was so good at entirely. Maybe, he is just reading this thread or someone he knows tells him about it. He definitely was _the_ man back in the days and he seems to be a really nice and intelligent guy. Drazzzt aka ShortNotice | ||
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On June 14 2004 18:16 Liquid`Drone wrote: slayer was also somewhat godly at elastomania I think he was good at fps games too, although I dunno how good. ![]() Haha he sucked at cs, but good at Elma even though he played crap maps | ||
MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
Did he swear on camera? (You translated ..."that was fucking nasty"...."cheese or some gay stuff"....) (: | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
when i think of what i did at this time (99-00) i feel so dull ... :/ | ||
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Radiohead
Norway201 Posts
On June 15 2004 07:16 MPXMX wrote: Emerton, thannks for the subtitles; Did he swear on camera? (You translated ..."that was fucking nasty"...."cheese or some gay stuff"....) (: yup ![]() | ||
RedAreStupid.
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Denmark171 Posts
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StimD
Norway738 Posts
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Overlord
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Eti307
Canada3442 Posts
On June 15 2004 07:59 i-Sonic wrote: wow... how the times had changed i suppose grrr was good in 2000, cus that pro manager just said "i have the starcraft champion guilliame patry" ![]() Grrrr was a fuckin machine and the best player in the world back then | ||
ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
On June 15 2004 04:32 FrozenArbiter wrote: Maybe garimto was posting lies on his Pc Cafe (ask freezeternal -_-!) I believe he said they sometimes play 23 hours in a row o_O I understand that on average, most of the pro players in [gm] play 40 games a day. So 60 every day might be stretching it, but 60 every now and again doesn't seem so impossible. | ||
SoleSteeler
Canada5413 Posts
On June 15 2004 03:55 emerton wrote: Here you are: http://home.hesbynett.no/nicolai/Aliasslayersubsd/ I think you will need that Vodsub program so download that. (thanks comabreaded) I suggest you put the sub file in the same folder as the movie is in. And the subtitle file must have the same name as the movie. Enjoy. thanks a lot, very easy to use and it works perfectly ![]() | ||
SW)RIF
United States563 Posts
On June 15 2004 08:56 ObsoleteLogic wrote: I understand that on average, most of the pro players in [gm] play 40 games a day. So 60 every day might be stretching it, but 60 every now and again doesn't seem so impossible. BBiBBi played about 40 games in one day on wgtour. Played another 20 the next day. Not to mention WGT is a slow process and takes several minutes or longer to find an opponent. I wouldnt doubt a pro player who is envied by thousands of koreans playing 60+ in a day. | ||
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Sweden1368 Posts
On June 15 2004 08:55 FadeToChaos wrote: Grrrr was a fuckin machine and the best player in the world back then N O . | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 15 2004 07:59 i-Sonic wrote: wow... how the times had changed i suppose grrr was good in 2000, cus that pro manager just said "i have the starcraft champion guilliame patry" ![]() o_o; He was the best player in korea (at the very least) at the time o_O He won OGN and king of kings. He was the champ ;] | ||
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KhresT
Brazil187 Posts
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United States2166 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 15 2004 10:03 Zzang wrote: Question of the week: Who's that non-korean guy at 11:20 ?? He is some german guy i forgot his name though. | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
how do i get the subtitles running, i don't get it :/ | ||
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Canada159 Posts
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
On June 15 2004 12:07 Carnac wrote: alright i downloaded virtualdub and this vodsub thing, which i installed.... how do i get the subtitles running, i don't get it :/ yeah it tripped me up for a few seconds too, you have to rename the aliasslayer.sub.txt to just .sub | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
doesn't work :/ | ||
RushTHElarvA
449 Posts
2:25 caption:[abs]:soar for another biologicalscrew up is that what abs stands for ?!?! | ||
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Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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RushTHElarvA
449 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
edit: oh i just realized the file is in fact already a .sub-file ^^ | ||
Splinter
United States188 Posts
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United States2347 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
On June 15 2004 17:23 Splinter wrote: k, that didn't happen for me (using divx)If you have everything installed to make subs work, you just have to play the movie with the subs file in the same folder as the movie, and the subs should appear automatically (this is what happened using BSPlayer at least). | ||
Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On June 15 2004 17:26 RuGbUg wrote: k, that didn't happen for me (using divx) I couldn't get it to work with DivX either. I then used the default program, some ATI viewer my comp has on it without doing anything to the file, and it worked fine. Maybe it just doesn't work with DivX? | ||
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Dick
United States717 Posts
does anyone have like a bracket of the tournament ? or at least name some of the matches, like who did Slayer beat in the finals and how far did ntt, maynard, sven, grrrr, the rest of the korean pro gamers etc... went | ||
Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
Slayer beat I_Love.Star in the final, 2:1 TvZ. Only other opponent I remember the name of was Intotherain, Slayer beat him zvp. Most other foreigners were out in round 1, that's elky, mr.x (zvz), rookie, some chinese player... I think Maynard and Grrrr had to play each other but I might be wrong, maybe that was the previous year or something. The previous year was fun too, there were more foreigners if I remember correctly. :+:jolly:+: and Mr.X made it to top 16, Pillars, Thor, Tillerman were there and others. TheMarine won it, beating that same zerg I_Love.Star. By the way I_Love.Star was second in WCG challenge too, lost to Gorush there | ||
RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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Sweden2407 Posts
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Fester
Australia260 Posts
i_love_star = [dak]galbi im sure | ||
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United States1025 Posts
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Norway10161 Posts
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L!MP
Australia2067 Posts
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ggt
France58 Posts
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Sweden1368 Posts
On June 15 2004 23:44 Fester wrote: elky said he won the first game but lost 2nd round. and he was playing zerg in the kbk tournament i_love_star = [dak]galbi im sure Quite sure that you are wrong, Galbi was bassy iirc. I_Love.star wasn't a progamer though, just semi-pro, same thing with Gorush. | ||
AnOther
565 Posts
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RedAreStupid.
Sweden476 Posts
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
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SiS
United States753 Posts
I couldn't understand him, maybe my audio sux but all I could make out was "american school", and "starcraft champion giyom patry" and something about salary other than that, the movie was pretty cool | ||
Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 16 2004 05:11 Breeze wrote: You just don't get scandinavian humour do you... It's all staged, if you don't realise it yet. That's just some english speaking koreans they picked off the street LOL :-) | ||
SiS
United States753 Posts
staged or real I wasn't even asking about that -_- I was just asking what he was saying since I couldnt really understand that garbled shit he was saying (I guess it was english) | ||
[pG]RaGe
United States346 Posts
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IntoTheClanWar
141 Posts
Grrrr... was one of them, too. He was the first one, too play it really as a pro gamer and he understood the game so fast than no one else. Boxer is already new generation compared to these and the rising star seems to sink, like grrrr... did 2 years ago. Nada and other great gamer are the new stars and for sure the best ones these days.. | ||
IntoTheClanWar
141 Posts
I dont understand how to get it running with this sub program.. | ||
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Romania651 Posts
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
It is always inspiring to watch "underdogs" growing huge in any sport, probably dominating it, especially as a foreigner. I also would have been more of a fan than for any other korean progamer as it would have been against the odds for him to be the best (like grrrr... was before). | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 16 2004 05:37 SiS wrote: uhm ... staged or real I wasn't even asking about that -_- I was just asking what he was saying since I couldnt really understand that garbled shit he was saying (I guess it was english) Turn up your volume or something because I heard every single word and I'm not even a native speaker +_+ | ||
Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
On June 16 2004 10:31 FrozenArbiter wrote: Turn up your volume or something because I heard every single word and I'm not even a native speaker +_+ Maybe you are used to people speaking strange/undistinguishable english ![]() | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On June 16 2004 04:59 SiS wrote: what in fuck's name was that pro gamer manager talking about? o_O I couldn't understand him, maybe my audio sux but all I could make out was "american school", and "starcraft champion "giyom patry" and something about salary my name is jungh juhn min (hope its right, im not good at korean ![]() ![]() my oppinion of slayer is: he doesnt have any career for pro-gaming in korea (i think he means he wasnt present at korean tv, so he would be not so interesting for sponsors) so i cant give him so much sallary. so i just think, i can get him to american school in korea, international school ... that costs much. i can give him 20.000 USD or maybe 30.000 USD or like that. my best player, giyom patry, says slayer is the best. | ||
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United States889 Posts
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Hoops
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 16 2004 15:57 Hoops wrote: Maynard how good were you? I've never seen a replay or really heard of what you won. I just know you were one of the "greats" from the past and that you were in korea for a while. I made it a policy not to spread around replays of me winning. I guess I would say i've had some decent tournament placings, no real tournament wins. My tournament experience was rather lackluster but i was able to keep my face around for a while. I was able to obtain a paid sponsorship for a period of time in Korea until my sponsor went bankrupt. Dunno if that anwsers it. Probably not. | ||
RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On June 16 2004 15:57 Hoops wrote: Maynard how good were you? I've never seen a replay or really heard of what you won. I just know you were one of the "greats" from the past and that you were in korea for a while. It's not my place to speak for Maynard, but almost all of the old-school foreigners regarded Maynard as THE best of the very old-school, as far as I understand. Grrrr..., Soso, Jolly, etc. all regarded him as a very skilled player and all learned a lot from him. There was a StarCraft.org feature up a few years ago with profiles on many old-school players, and almost everyone had Maynard as one of their most feared players, or most skilled. Whether he ended up as good as the pros or not, he was always very talented and one of the best of the old-school days. | ||
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United States1508 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 16 2004 20:16 NoNameLoser wrote: I was always interested as to what made you kill H.O.T. like that on rivalry, Maynard? R v Z on rivalry, got Z. Double elimination so i decided to mix it up rather than play z v z straight up on rivalry vs him. | ||
RaiZ
2813 Posts
I think it would be great for some players who can't understand english too but can read ![]() Thx you. :p | ||
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China3334 Posts
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On June 16 2004 16:10 Maynard wrote: I made it a policy not to spread around replays of me winning. I guess I would say i've had some decent tournament placings, no real tournament wins. My tournament experience was rather lackluster but i was able to keep my face around for a while. I was able to obtain a paid sponsorship for a period of time in Korea until my sponsor went bankrupt. Dunno if that anwsers it. Probably not. my friends and i call the peon swap from main to natural "maynard swap" and guess what, i started by only 2 years ago, thats when i heard this term. ur name will survive maynard, as well as grrrs. u are like .... there is nonone like you ![]() | ||
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Oh and Maynard since you are here - I always wondered why you played terran down in korea whene everybody from Grrr to Zelias was screaming about how unbeatable your zerg was? | ||
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United States717 Posts
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Maynard
United States889 Posts
On June 17 2004 07:32 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: yea the maynard transfer. Hall of fame! -_- Oh and Maynard since you are here - I always wondered why you played terran down in korea whene everybody from Grrr to Zelias was screaming about how unbeatable your zerg was? Because i absolutely hated ZVZ and when i was in korea every other korean was Z. | ||
Hoops
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
edit: errrr, i mean elastomania, not the video. but i do have the video too....tho i dont rly wanna send it. i'll send it to the one guy who PM'ed me tho. | ||
nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
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hasuwar
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ZorAptoR
Switzerland926 Posts
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peetah
Sweden88 Posts
Today, I discovered that Alias:Slayer actually is uploaded on YouTube. As for you who don't know what kind of movie this is, it's a documentary about a great norwegian player named Slayer that travel to Korea in 2001 to participate in the KBK-tournament. Part 1: Part 2: Part 3: | ||
Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
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forb
Norway218 Posts
http://randomoutput.org/nico/aliasslayer.avi And subs: http://randomoutput.org/nico/aliasslayer.sub Not sure if they work though. | ||
trollbone
France1905 Posts
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
he was really an exceptional player at his time. | ||
letsbefree
Canada123 Posts
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
On July 10 2008 05:29 peetah wrote: I'm here to bump! Today, I discovered that Alias:Slayer actually is uploaded on YouTube. As for you who don't know what kind of movie this is, it's a documentary about a great norwegian player named Slayer that travel to Korea in 2001 to participate in the KBK-tournament. Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4 Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA That was genuinely a great watch. All this was way before my SC-time and I love seeing how the raw passion in SC hasn't changed over the years. I wonder what Slayer is doing now.... :| /wipes tear... | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
Then he had to serve the one year mandatory military service that norway has, and during that time, he bought a couple of poker books, and studied poker for a while, and I think he's making a good amount of money on it. I THINK I saw him on the nordic poker tourmanent, but cant remember exactly..it was a while ago. Btw, peetah, you didnt happen to get that information from the wow forums? I posted it a while ago on my warrior :D Edit: Is ther any way at all to get a hold of those replays or the VODS from that tournament? Wanna see how they played back then. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7763 Posts
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Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
On July 10 2008 08:43 Elric_ wrote: ... I wonder what Slayer is doing now.... :| On July 10 2008 09:10 InfeSteD[rA] wrote: ...What happened to this frederick kid? Sorry for my ignorance anyone has a little more information on him? Anything else after this tournament? On July 10 2008 09:41 Epicfailguy wrote: He was offered a contract, but didnt take it, because he wanted a safe education at home. Then he had to serve the one year mandatory military service that norway has, and during that time, he bought a couple of poker books, and studied poker for a while, and I think he's making a good amount of money on it. I THINK I saw him on the nordic poker tourmanent, but cant remember exactly..it was a while ago. Just a little extract from a Tillerman interview who seems to be good friends with Slayer: ... There must be at least 4-5 ex professional gamers who have pulled in more than seven figures from poker. My good friend Kirderf (ex Broodwar WCG Champion) is one of them and in my opinion is one of the best and most consistent online players in the world, he certainly meets this criteria many times over. Other ex gamers who I know have had some success in poker are Elky, Rekrul, Nazgul, TheBusDriver, Ackbleh, Bushman, Lakerman, 4K.Kaj, NTT, RainKhan, Maynard, IceGod, Groinal, Daishi, Xds’Grrrrr, Nitemare and scores of others whose names escape me right now. The skills that are transferable from gaming to poker are probably the qualities of obsession and dedication. You can’t reach the highest tiers of competitiveness in gaming without a regime of several hours of practice every day. The same dedication is required in poker. Another advantage for ex gamers will be the ability to multi task more naturally than non gamers thus enabling them to play more tables more easily and deal with multiple decision situations more competently. One part of gaming that is not easily transferable to poker is the competitive angle, the feeling of being able to sit down at your game and “own” your opponent because you are better. This satisfaction of being able to see instant results is completely missing from poker and is something that I miss. I am also sure it is something that many ex gamers struggle with probably having contributed to them leaking thousands of dollars before it is programmed into them that this feeling can no longer be satisfied from poker. Also, is there something in particular about Starcraft/Warcraft or can this be extended more generally to people who put lots of time in with computer games of other types? Would you recommend they try poker as something they might have natural aptitude for? I am not sure how transferable the skills are because for every one gamer I can name that has managed the transition I can name ten others who either fail or struggle. I don’t recommend poker to anyone any more as I believe it is an incredible struggle and hardship for 9 out of 10 players who attempt it. I don’t want the likely outcome of my encouragement to be failure for that person. Who do you regard as the most successful to crossover besides yourself and do they share similar attributes? As I said above it is almost certainly Kirderf. We play virtually identical styles and I think have similar thought processes and approaches to the game. This makes sense as we have discussed and talked about poker strategy together for several years. He epitomises Discipline, the single most important skill for a poker player to master. One day I hope to achieve this level of discipline with no leaks from tilt or frustration whatsoever. I am getting closer all the time =) ... | ||
FiSheYe
Germany53 Posts
To me Slayer was always the best. When I started Starcraft he used to be my idol and when I played with him he opened my eyes for new strategies and creativity. Not only do I have the same name but I also think he has somewhat an very similar approach. Unfortunately I think he has more talent than I do, be it Starcraft or Poker. He was never the person to play the most but he was always one of the great inventors in strategies within Starcraft. He used Strategies long before Replays were available and years later people copied his style. I think due to the long hours I put in Starcraft I was able to spot real talent in a very accurate fashion. I once played Gamei vs Iloveoov when he used to be a Zerg player and I thought to myself that he will be an upcoming star. I had that feeling maybe around 10 times total and all of them became world wide top players either within months or years after I discovered them. Nontheless Slayer struck me as a one in a million talent. Some people are just special and I don't know about his qualities besides Starcraft and Poker but when it comes to these games hands down, he is amazing. There is just a certain approach some people have, that makes them different, they see behind the mechanics and find their own way how to play the game. When there is no further information available, those people will be on top no matter how big the competition. Slayer is not the best in Starcraft anymore and not on top in Poker either, just because there are people working / playing much more but nevertheless when you will give him a new game and time he will definitely be on top of it, just because he has the creativity and right mindset to succeed. I dunno if this is private but the I met him last year in Monte Carlo for the European Poker Tour Finals and he won big 7figurish and is well set for life, furtheremore I heard his GF is pregnant so he might be a father by now. Would be amazing to see him back in Starcraft 2. | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
The things you say about Slayer is the same feeling I got the first time I saw him move his hands around the keyboard and the way he talked abou the game, etc. Back then, I don't think no1 had that hand speed that he had... I mean Grrr... was the best of the best at that time and he was standing behind him going "Wow, this kid is so fast"... But it seems like all the old schoolers turn into poker stars, more $$$$$$ I am guessing right? Does Slayer still play tho at all? Iccup or Bnet? | ||
Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
I wish all these legends still played. I speak about the foreign scene here. In Korea, it's obviously different.. | ||
Ghardo
Germany1685 Posts
On July 11 2008 02:30 ret wrote: white-ra was never top of the crop till like 2005 or so (and he was never the best gamer), that's a very bad comparison. Mondragon is a relatively 'old' gamer these days and he's still doin good. If old gamers never quit this game they would've still been on top I think. Exception are maybe some players who were succesfull only because of their unpredictableness and creative strategies. But most old gamers back in the day also had basic macro skills :p I wish all these legends still played. I speak about the foreign scene here. In Korea, it's obviously different.. of course the oldies profit from their long term accumulation of skill and sustainment and there are some exceptions who still beat the youngsters (as stated in my previous post). but statistically you don't have the reaction time of a 15 year old at the age of 25 and thus making it hard for you to still keep the pace. it's experience vs. young dynamics. but we've been all over this before.. after all it was just a theoretical question of mine if slayer can still bring the same performance as in '01 if he tries really hard.. would be interesting to know but rather unlikely that we will see it, not even in sc2. if he is indeed father now he won't have time to nerd sc2 24/7. the only thing possible would be a near empirical approach (hypothetically) to measure the time of all the well known foreigners which they invest in sc2, consider their age, and see how succesful they are with what they invest. you'll then get a cost/effect figure and... whatev... it's only the mathematical version of what fisheye already said... slayer would prolly still have the highest figure as a player "one out of a million". o_O | ||
merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On July 11 2008 02:16 Ghardo wrote: but fisheye... do you think he still can do what he did in '01? not to take away that he is a phenomenal player.. but there are very few "old" gamers who still bring it as much as the young ones. (want to have a harsh contrast? Flash-Much // White-Ra-..JF e.g.) Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04 Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year. | ||
Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On July 11 2008 23:58 meRz wrote: Well, one small comparsion might be WCG Nordic 04 Slayer stopped playing somewhere around 2001 or 2002 I guess? And he still came back 2 years later, with little or no practice at all, and ended up #3 in the norweigan qualifiers. He'd probably won, but they had to shorten the LB finals to Bo1, and the WB finals to bo3, because they had to catch the flight back to norway (it was held in Sweden). Had it been Bo3 and Bo5, Slayer might've even gone to WCG finals that year. I remember that, I watched the nordic WCG closely as I was rooting for my (TE) teammates (that time being Gos-Chaso, a swedish terran who retired shortly thereafter iirc, and Arcneon, whom you might now as today's iG.Madclaw, a finnish protoss). I was amazed at Slayer's play, having only heard about him before (2002 was before my time of online SC), knowing he didn't practice at all those past two years... He is some real talent, I tell ya ![]() | ||
merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On July 12 2008 00:30 Naib wrote: I remember that, I watched the nordic WCG closely as I was rooting for my (TE) teammates (that time being Gos-Chaso, a swedish terran who retired shortly thereafter iirc, and Arcneon, whom you might now as today's iG.Madclaw, a finnish protoss). I was amazed at Slayer's play, having only heard about him before (2002 was before my time of online SC), knowing he didn't practice at all those past two years... He is some real talent, I tell ya ![]() Yeah I know all about Chaso and Arcneon. I've met Chaso several times at offline events, and Arcneon played in our team as a smurf a couple of times back in the days ![]() | ||
Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On July 12 2008 00:36 meRz wrote: Yeah I know all about Chaso and Arcneon. I've met Chaso several times at offline events, and Arcneon played in our team as a smurf a couple of times back in the days ![]() He was, I have some vague memories ![]() ![]() The only thing I value more about my SC-"career" than that is the time right after (TE) fell apart, and somehow I got into 88) ![]() The old times... | ||
Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Is he still with iG.? | ||
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G5
United States2894 Posts
On July 12 2008 08:33 gg_hertzz wrote: it's simple why there are a few ex broodwar players in poker and doing well. These guys have been sitting around most of their lives doing jack squat. i like how some people like to draw up mythic explanations as to why elky does so well in poker or rekrul for that matter, but i mean gaming just has so many non-professional young people who can sit for extended hours. What else are they suppose to do? agreed | ||
FiSheYe
Germany53 Posts
Poker is a game of strategy as Starcraft is. There are similarities but also differences. People who are very creative in Starcraft, beeing able to look behind mechanics and have that strategic mind set, have qualities that are necessary for poker as well. Furtheremore poker requires tremendous selfmanagement skillz such as psychological stability, beeing ableto disregard real money and rather look at every time at the most expected value per move. There is a long list, why topnotch Starcraft players such as Slayer and many more have become millionaires. Obviously playing hours Starcraft or doing the same with poker is just an easy change for those people. If there were only a few $ to be made, most good players wouldn't have started... But if someone like Slayer is able to accumulate 7 figures in a year, setting himself up for life and starting a family at the age of maybe 25, who would seriously say like "what else could he have done?". That guy is a genius and he should deserve respect. Do you look at Kasperov and say, hmm he was a weird guy anyways, what else could he have done except for chess? Maybe those people are what you could consider one sided when it comes to talent, I am in no position to judge.. Anyways fact is there are millions of poker players out there and there is a reason why few super players changed to poker and became successful, luck is not involved neither mythical explanations. Those who make that much money are around the top 0,01% of the player pool overall and I guess they were around that number in Starcraft as well. Coincidence? | ||
MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
Oh, and i love how after baal and tiffany is so set on their opinions that Slayer is DEFINITELY not the best that they both had to "correct" poor DickDodgers who might actually have been right and even known more than them(although reading that post carefully makes me realize that isn't so)and then maynard comes out of the blue and this whole thread shifts from the ignorance that is slayer and is educated among many old schoolers who also pops up about how slayer is or could've been one of the greatest sc players to play this game. I also learned this too as I always considered Grrr.. the best forgiener. | ||
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Sweden1368 Posts
Grrr dominated for sure, but dropped once the koreans started getting really good, probably lacking dedication, but also mechanics. Slayer was just as fast as the top koreans and in a time where koreans played very basic his strategics were on a level beyond theirs. Grr was just another good player to me the first time i saw him play. Slayer amazed me just as much as Nada did the first time i saw him. Those two are also whom i regard as the greatest players ever, foreigner and korean. Not even close. On a sidenote Kasparov could do else then chess, since he quit and is now into politics as one of the leaders in the opposition of Putin. | ||
G5
United States2894 Posts
best one i've seen of sc | ||
fonger
United Kingdom1218 Posts
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Olorin
Norway4 Posts
Check here: Anyway, he has a fortune of ~ 10 000 000 NOK Where 1$ = 6 NOK I started playing Starcraft because of this documentary, It was really fun to see it once again, so thanks for the upload. I'll never forget Slayer's tremendous skill and I regard him as the BIGGEST talent in SC:BW history. It's sad that he stopped playing so early (and when he was so good that he was compared to how much he actually practiced..), but who can blame him? He's a very rich 25 year old man in Norway. Not many are able to earn so much money on their own. Let's hope he will return for SC2 and dominate like he did back in 2000 ![]() | ||
slained
Canada966 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
On October 24 2008 03:49 slained wrote: wheres this money from? Poker I think | ||
zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
Yes both play Poker, Slayer and Sven | ||
s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
On June 14 2004 18:05 Liquid`Drone wrote: frozen you never saw him play. he became the worlds best player playing in a COMPLETELY different enviroment from boxer and garimto. becoming amazingly good when you're constantly practicing on lan with the best players in the world is a lot less impressive than becoming amazingly good when you're playing far less than them and online. slayer was never a progamer, but still beat them all, while getting very, very good grades in school. bump. it's been a year since this documentary has been bumped (original thread is from 2004.) and a lot of new people are on TL.net that "do know know the history". yesterday i was watching some poker videos of Elky and bumped into a slayer documentary, i think it needs to be seen again. For a clip that was made in the year 2000 and is about gaming, i think it is much better presented than other new Fox news crap like documentary videos. so here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA on this topic you can read posts from pG players, Maynard, NTT and other old school players. enjoy /bow | ||
PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
bw related ( back in 03 or what it was. ) | ||
bgx
Poland6595 Posts
Also documentary while being made in 2001 still looks very fresh. Enjoy! [Youtube links 2 posts above.] | ||
Emporio
United States3069 Posts
On June 13 2004 17:41 NewbSaibot wrote: and then what, who the hell is gonna have 170megs of webspace to host that on? Or be willing to give to anybody for someone else to host. This was really funny to see before I looked at the date. | ||
Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
On September 08 2011 08:37 Emporio wrote: This was really funny to see before I looked at the date. LOL yeah. thanks for the bump! can't believe i missed this. Man, all this nostalgia, seeing the 2007 MSL finals Day[9], Nony commentary, and now this. | ||
chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
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ludic123
Norway161 Posts
On September 08 2011 08:56 Tomken wrote: Wasn't Slayer one of the fastest player back then? THE fastest player if I'm not mistaken. He started the whole APM trend iirc. | ||
Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On July 31 2009 20:24 s.a.y wrote: bump. it's been a year since this documentary has been bumped (original thread is from 2004.) and a lot of new people are on TL.net that "do know know the history". yesterday i was watching some poker videos of Elky and bumped into a slayer documentary, i think it needs to be seen again. For a clip that was made in the year 2000 and is about gaming, i think it is much better presented than other new Fox news crap like documentary videos. so here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA on this topic you can read posts from pG players, Maynard, NTT and other old school players. enjoy /bow why do they have so many thumbs down on youtube? | ||
Phyrigian
New Zealand1332 Posts
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Trowabarton756
United States870 Posts
On September 08 2011 09:38 3xiLe wrote: I saw this documentary again recently before It was bumped. Out of curiosity What was his apm actually? If i remember correctly it was around 200 | ||
Phyrigian
New Zealand1332 Posts
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Trowabarton756
United States870 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On September 08 2011 09:37 Sina92 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2009 20:24 s.a.y wrote: bump. it's been a year since this documentary has been bumped (original thread is from 2004.) and a lot of new people are on TL.net that "do know know the history". yesterday i was watching some poker videos of Elky and bumped into a slayer documentary, i think it needs to be seen again. For a clip that was made in the year 2000 and is about gaming, i think it is much better presented than other new Fox news crap like documentary videos. so here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcUxcYz3ng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7nuY_a2n_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMP0mUVklGA on this topic you can read posts from pG players, Maynard, NTT and other old school players. enjoy /bow why do they have so many thumbs down on youtube? Because people mistake it for being a documentary about the metal band Slayer. When they find out its really about a skinny nerd playing computer games, they pump their skinny pale fists against the computer screen because of the HUGE letdown. Poor guys. It can not be easy sharing the spotlight with GG99 Slayer. | ||
village_idiot
2436 Posts
On June 13 2004 17:41 NewbSaibot wrote: and then what, who the hell is gonna have 170megs of webspace to host that on? Or be willing to give to anybody for someone else to host. LOL! Those were the days. | ||
Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
On June 13 2004 18:12 GTR-2-Go_au wrote: hasuwar still wanna play that basketball game? -_-;; i was very surprised at the size, 169meg for a 30min video file, must be quality etc. i thought it was somewhere from 50meg-100meg >< I find this even more fun, lol.. Glad those days are over! | ||
MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
I don't miss those days | ||
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GTR
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On September 08 2011 11:25 Trowabarton756 wrote: Yep the only thing I don't remember correctly is if Blackman was playing around the time Slayers was, because blackman had like 300 apm mostly playing against custom ai scripts for training and then traveling like 2 hours to the nearest lan center lololol I think that was kinda later than 1999-2000 era. Btw i remember seeing blackman in some news in tv after wcg succes or was it in press ? | ||
zOula...
United States898 Posts
On September 08 2011 11:25 Trowabarton756 wrote: Yep the only thing I don't remember correctly is if Blackman was playing around the time Slayers was, because blackman had like 300 apm mostly playing against custom ai scripts for training and then traveling like 2 hours to the nearest lan center lololol Blackman was playing like 5 years after that I believe | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
Too bad we don't have those stylist spacesuits anymore, they were so sexy | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
I remember him from back in those days, even before boxer came up. This guy is my favorite non korean player of all time. Incredibly talented and awesome player. As time went on, he wasn't around as much, I think at the time I just assumed he lost interest in bw or had other priorities. | ||
Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On September 09 2011 00:07 GTR wrote: hey, i had dial-up back then with a 500mb download limit, give me a fucking break happy b-day! amazing bumps lately, i don't mind reading such threads like this one, from prehistory ![]() | ||
Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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ludic123
Norway161 Posts
On September 08 2011 09:38 Phyrigian wrote: I saw this documentary again recently before It was bumped. Out of curiosity What was his apm actually? I watched a lot of his replays back in the day, and he usually hovered around 220-240. He was way ahead of his time, both in mechanics and build orders. A truly talented guy. | ||
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GTR
51408 Posts
Unfortunately no subtitles though. IMO, Slayer was definitely up there with Nada in terms of talent. Even Grrrr... said he was the best foreigner when he came for the KBK tournament in 2000. Who knows what could have happened if he ended up getting into an international school in Seoul while balancing progaming. EDIT: Also apparently I had another account but I must've forgotten the password to it. | ||
Timebon3s
Norway646 Posts
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Moletrap
United States1297 Posts
I love the first page of comments about how mind blowingly enormous 170MB was loooooool | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 17 2021 12:48 Moletrap wrote: omg epic necrobump. I love the first page of comments about how mind blowingly enormous 170MB was loooooool Indeed though having to download that at max 1-2 kb/s and hope no one calls at that time was an exercise in patience haha. | ||
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United States4448 Posts
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ox.tQ
794 Posts
Below are some transcripts of interviews with Slayer. I stumbled upon them while recently wallowing in the memories of the 2000 era and checking out his Liquipedia page https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/20886-old-interview-of-slayer http://web.archive.org/web/20010204000700/http://www.theaddict.org/slayer.shtml http://web.archive.org/web/20041014053708/http://starcraftgamers.com/nyheter.php?i=n&id=1253 Long live [GG]! edit: Some of you dinosaurs might remember these articles from back in the day: http://web.archive.org/web/20000325065149/http://www.starcraft.org/newsarchives.shtml Here's one of my favourites: http://web.archive.org/web/20000816154912/http://www.nukewinter.com/sc/strategies/protoss/da_attack/ Dark Archon Attack - By Zmmax (Edited by Ace) "Yes, thats right a Dark Archon attack. This is one of those strategies that isn't exactly something you shouldnt already know how to do. But the thing is, people never use it. All you have to do is use the dark templar rush and dont attack with them, summon Dark Archons. You'll need to get the energy and mind control upgrade. As soon as ur Dark Archons are charged and ready to go stick them outside an enemy base. While they are charging, periodically attack the enemy with zealots and dragoons to annoy and lower their defenses. When the Dark Archons are in place, take them inside the enemy base and simply use mind control on either all the most powerful units they have at the time, or thier peons. Using this will enable you to perform either a good sized attack without losing any or your units or starving them by controllig thier peons. The only thing to remember is to have your Dark Archons fully charged before performing this." "Disadvantages: - You could get screwed by going quick technology - Your opponent could kill your Dark Archons before you cast your spells - You mind control ¼ their units, kill the other ¼, and the other half dominates you. Optimal Outcomes: - You could mind control most of their main units, giving you a major advantage in the battle, thus winning you the game. - You could take over most of their powerful units, leaving your units to have an advantage in the battle. Realistically: Okay folks, lets get realistic here. Most likely, you'll have a few dragoons / zealots and maybe 2-3 Dark Archons. You'll be feeling all good about yourself, and head straight into the enemy base. You'll probably lose 1-2 of your Dark Archons heading into the battle, along with a few of your militant units. This will leave you with about 1 archon, and a few zealots, not too impressive of an attack, eh? Another thing that will probably happen is that you'll go quick technology, and get rushed. How can you prevent this? Well, the obvious thing, cannons. If you keep a small supply of dragoons / zealots at a choke point with a few cannons, you should be set to go quick technology. But in doing this, you're allowing your opponent to build up. So by the time you send out your attack, they could have a massive force. In order to use this tactic effectively, you'll need to have at least 5 Dark Archons. Since you'll have the technology buildings, it wouldn't hurt to get a reaver or two to help out your attack. Good luck trying this one out! It could go one of two ways. Let me know how it goes!" | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
[Nordic] Well. thanks alot for giving me the time to interview you, this will be up on http://gosu.cjb.net within an hour ![]() [[iDEF]Slayer] no, I hate everyone [Nordic] Ok [[iDEF]Slayer] =[ [Nordic] ![]() haha. | ||
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Ivory Coast856 Posts
On July 17 2021 01:17 Timebon3s wrote: I could do subtitles to that. Is it hard to edit that into a vid? that would be cool! | ||
RowdierBob
Australia12999 Posts
On July 17 2021 14:18 GTR wrote: australia where i lived was literally third world internet back in the early 2000s. i didn't get the ability to acquire a dsl connection until 2005-2006ish. I remember finally getting DSL in the mids 2000s and being able to watch this new thing called YouTube. Was amazing. | ||
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