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[Interview] WCG Korea 2010 Ro8 Day1 Winners

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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 07:05:02
August 18 2010 05:50 GMT
#1
Jaedong!
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Jaedong:
I'm confident no matter who my opponent will be for semifinals.


'Tyrant' Jaedong (Hwaseung Oz) defeated 'Super-Terran' Light (MBCGame) and advanced to the semifinals.

On the 18th, Jaedong started with a loss but took the next two games to crush Light and became the first player to claim a spot on the semifinals bracket.

Q & A:

- You took another step towards representing your country
A: I expected today to be a tough obstacle. I knew the next match-up would be either a zerg or a protoss which I'm comfortable with. To be honest, I didn't have high hopes for this WCG but it seems like I'm getting by somehow. Since I won in the grand-finals last year, I'm not too greedy for another gold, I just want to go to LA (laughs). Knowing the WCG grand-finals location, I thought it would be nice to travel to US and now that I'm in the semi-finals, I would be filled with regret if I don't end up making it [to LA]. I don't care much about the ranks in WCG Korea, I just don't want to be 4th.

- You'll face Light again in MSL semi-finals, any concerns in practice/preparation?
A: There weren't any major problems. Besides the fact that he's a terran [T/N: racial imbalances implied], I didn't have any worries. It was just another game.

- Your opponent used early-game strategies [T/N: cheese rush!]
A: I had a hunch that he'd try something like that. He knows he has to play a lot of matches with me so I assumed he wouldn't go standard every single game. I focused on my own game without getting rattled by his, and I was able to win today.

- How was set 3 game
A: It was really fun especially about the mid-game mark. I had an advantage, and considering that Light's a great TvZ player, it felt like playing a practice match with a great TvZ player [T/N: no other progamer implied, JD's just trying to say that he was able to enjoy it as if it was practice]. I was able to carry my advantage through without making mistakes and I think that's why I won.

- How's your preparation for MSL
A: Nowadays in practice, Terrans seem to favour that strategy [T/N: I'm guessing he's referring to the proxy rax or BBS or similar early-game pushes Actually, on second thought, I think he's referring to the now-so-popular bio-into-late-mech TvZ. This makes more sense now. Fixed]. Since it's so popular, I'd like to think of it as just another standard build. I don't think there's a definite counter but if zergs adjust and play accordingly, player skill will be the deciding factor [and not the build].

- You will meet either Pure or Effort in the semi-finals
A: I'm confident no matter who my opponent will be.

- There's an overlap in your schedule on Saturday: MSL semi-finals and WCG Korea semi-finals
A: There's also OSL on the previous day, which makes it bit tricky. I need to prepare for ZvZ (OSL) and ZvT (MSL), and if a protoss ends up advancing today [T/N: that would be Pure if he beats Effort], I'd have to prepare for all match-ups. I know I'd have more regrets if I lose due to lack of preparation, and to be honest, it bothers me. Still, I will do my best to prepare for all the matches. Thankfully SPL is over and I don't have to practice for that.

- Last words
A: My schedule is really packed this week but I'll do my best to prepare for all the matches. Cheer for me so that I can win them all!

-----

Effort!
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Effort:
I'm looking forward to playing against Jaedong.


'Messiah' [T/N: Meh with long "eh" sound, is Korean for Hawk. so that's where this nickname comes from... I think] Effort (CJ) defeated Pure (WeMade) and advanced to the semi-finals.

On the 18th, Effort managed to defeat Pure by a 2:1 score after many fierce battles. He will face 'Tyrant' Jaedong (Hwaseung) on the 21st.

Q & A:

- This is your first time reaching the WCG Korea semi-finals
A: My desire [for a spot on the Korea SC roster] is even greater now that I've reached this far. Every time I was envious of the WCG Korea representatives but now I'm very close [of being one myself]. A little more and I can end up within top 3, which means I will go to LA - all of which makes me more excited.

- Broadly, how were your games today
A: It seems like my opponent had something strategic [T/N: cheesy!] for set 1, but I was able to figure it out quick enough and win easily. Set 2, I think I was doing ok but I let my guard down one moment which resulted in the loss.

- In the 3rd set, you gained advantage quite early
A: I guessed that Pure would go double nexus [T/N: pylon-nexus-forge] so I played accordingly, and I was right!

- You will meet Jaedong in the semi-finals
A: It seems like I'm getting a lot of matches against him here and there. I find that it's a lot of fun playing against him, and it's a lot of fun preparing for ZvZ as well. I'm looking forward to it.

- Do you find it more fun to play against good players?
A: I think every player prepares and tries harder against a good player. Same goes for me. I find myself putting more effort in those situations, and I find that enjoyable.

- You already have experienced a victory in USA soil (BlizzCon Invitational)
A: USA seems to be less humid than Korea, so I was able to stay nice and dry even in warm weather. Also, although not everyone was a SC fan, there were a lot of fans there. I wanted to play better in front of such a large crowd and thus I played very well.

- You already represented the country through IEF last time
A: Don't remind me (laughs). [T/N: you can search up IEF results... lol. I feel for Effort here]

- Your mindset going into the WCG semi-finals
A: It'd be nice to represent the country as number 1 player, but I think I should focus on getting to the finals first.

- What have you been doing lately
A: Since I'm out of both leagues [T/N: OSL and MSL], I've been focusing on WCG (laughs).
[Big T/N blurb: the expression used in Korean is "unemployed/hobo in both leagues," which basically means he's out of both leagues. Sort of worth a laugh, which is why he laughs there.]

- Last words
A: Thanks to my teammates who practiced with me. Also, I've been blasted with too much A/C lately which is sort of making me sick. I hope everyone stays off summer-cold!

-----

Source for Jaedong article: Fomos
Source for Effort article: Fomos
Pictures were uplaoded to tinypic because Google Chrome hates Fomos (I use Chrome too!).

Random fact: I was just playing SC with my best friend before coming home to watch the matches. He mentioned that he hated Effort because he's a fluke and blabla. And then we played ZvP (normally I'm P and he's Z but we switched up) and I lost a close match on Match Point. Guess what... Effort lost to Pure on Match Point! Seriously, how do you ZvP on that map?

Also, one more until 1000th post, I'd love to have made that on Stork's OSL victory interview (or at least I'd hope for that), but I can't help myself from posting everyday. So... what should I do?
[TLMS] REBOOT
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 11:18:14
August 18 2010 05:52 GMT
#2
Thanks for the translation! Was looking forward to seeing what Jaedong's reaction was to being cheesed twice. Interesting that he was kind of expecting it...it's not like Light is a bad TvZer.... Maybe he was just saying that, though. If he really expected cheese, would he have gone 12-hatch each time and not to scouted proxy locations?
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
August 18 2010 06:32 GMT
#3
Man jaedong sounds so confident right now! I like
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 18 2010 06:45 GMT
#4
Jaedong vs EffOrt...
Wait is this a Bo5? Aw, a Bo3.
Anyway, that's one ZvZ match that I think more people would like to watch.

Thanks for the translation.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
August 18 2010 06:50 GMT
#5
Thanks for the translation. If Jaedong makes it, I hella wanna go, but I live in NorCal. TT_TT
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 07:01:47
August 18 2010 06:58 GMT
#6
- You will meet Jaedong in the semi-finals
A: It seems like I'm getting a lot of matches against him here and there. I find that it's a lot of fun playing against him, and it's a lot of fun preparing for ZvZ as well. I'm looking forward to it.

- Do you find it more fun to play against good players?
A: I think every player prepares and tries harder against a good player. Same goes for me. I find myself putting more effort in those situations, and I find that enjoyable.



Pure burn XD
Jaedong and Baby
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 18 2010 07:08 GMT
#7
On August 18 2010 14:50 OpticalShot wrote:
Guess what... Effort lost to Pure on Match Point! Seriously, how do you ZvP on that map?

Pure Hydra vs Zealot/Reaver is not so good hahaha
Writerptrk
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51398 Posts
August 18 2010 07:13 GMT
#8
i think messiah comes from savior's id, and that effort is (undisputedly) savior's protege.
Commentator
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 18 2010 07:34 GMT
#9
The JD/Light games were sick. So happy he made it through and glad I got to read the interview so fast. Thanks for the translation Opticalshot!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 07:49:08
August 18 2010 07:46 GMT
#10
Jaedong has a serious shedule next week i hope he makes the MSL finals . WCG and OSL games aren't crucial, but they could be .
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 18 2010 07:50 GMT
#11
Looks like JD is well on his way to figuring out bio->mech.
About time, a week of undisputed dominance is too much. It really changes the SL's for the worse.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 08:02:04
August 18 2010 08:01 GMT
#12
Ahh the Koreans are calling Light "Super" instead of "Invisible"? I suppose all these high-placing finishes in leagues have rendered him visible to the public
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
August 18 2010 08:32 GMT
#13

- How's your preparation for MSL
A: Nowadays in practice, Terrans seem to favour that strategy [T/N: I'm guessing he's referring to the proxy rax or BBS or similar early-game pushes Actually, on second thought, I think he's referring to the now-so-popular bio-into-late-mech TvZ. This makes more sense now. Fixed]. Since it's so popular, I'd like to think of it as just another standard build. I don't think there's a definite counter but if zergs adjust and play accordingly, player skill will be the deciding factor [and not the build].


Nice jab at Sea in the last sentence. Winners get to talk, losers gotta walk.
..Bears!
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 18 2010 09:40 GMT
#14
Great 999th post. JD I believe! If anyone can find a kink in the impenetrable armor plating of bio-mech (Especially on PR) it's Jaedong.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
August 18 2010 09:59 GMT
#15
Thanks for translations!
Enjoy the game
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 18 2010 10:01 GMT
#16
A: My schedule is really packed this week but I'll do my best to prepare for all the matches. Cheer for me so that I can win them all!

No problem JD, I'll always cheer for you! lol

Thanks for the translations.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 10:31:05
August 18 2010 10:01 GMT
#17
Was disappointed in Light today.

On August 18 2010 15:45 flamewheel wrote:
Anyway, that's one ZvZ match that I think more people would like to watch.

Only because one of them has to lose

I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
August 18 2010 10:19 GMT
#18
Disappointed in all of his cheese, yes.

Are the IEF results buried somewhere on TL? I'm evidently inept at the search feature.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
August 18 2010 10:41 GMT
#19
On August 18 2010 14:50 OpticalShot wrote:
- How's your preparation for MSL
A: Nowadays in practice, Terrans seem to favour that strategy [T/N: I'm guessing he's referring to the proxy rax or BBS or similar early-game pushes Actually, on second thought, I think he's referring to the now-so-popular bio-into-late-mech TvZ. This makes more sense now. Fixed]. Since it's so popular, I'd like to think of it as just another standard build. I don't think there's a definite counter but if zergs adjust and play accordingly, player skill will be the deciding factor [and not the build].


THANK YOU JD. JD stands up and takes it like a man, unlike the thousands of imba whiners. Just as how EVERY Terran didn't know how to combat JD's muta micro for several years... it's only a matter of time before someone creates the 'definite counter' to the bio -> mech build.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 18 2010 12:04 GMT
#20
On August 18 2010 19:41 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 14:50 OpticalShot wrote:
- How's your preparation for MSL
A: Nowadays in practice, Terrans seem to favour that strategy [T/N: I'm guessing he's referring to the proxy rax or BBS or similar early-game pushes Actually, on second thought, I think he's referring to the now-so-popular bio-into-late-mech TvZ. This makes more sense now. Fixed]. Since it's so popular, I'd like to think of it as just another standard build. I don't think there's a definite counter but if zergs adjust and play accordingly, player skill will be the deciding factor [and not the build].


THANK YOU JD. JD stands up and takes it like a man, unlike the thousands of imba whiners. Just as how EVERY Terran didn't know how to combat JD's muta micro for several years... it's only a matter of time before someone creates the 'definite counter' to the bio -> mech build.


Idra should take some lessons from Jaedong on these kind of things :D

Anyway awesome play from Jaedong, beating the 2nd best TvZer in the game at a time when ZvT isn't looking so hot
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
August 18 2010 12:22 GMT
#21
If Jaedong manages to win the MSL surely it would be one of the most impressive league runs ever. Difficult maps in a traditionally one-sided matchup against 3 of the best people in that matchup, it would be crazy.
lebalebaleba
Profile Joined March 2010
United States71 Posts
August 18 2010 12:29 GMT
#22
On August 18 2010 21:22 infinity2k9 wrote:
If Jaedong manages to win the MSL surely it would be one of the most impressive league runs ever. Difficult maps in a traditionally one-sided matchup against 3 of the best people in that matchup, it would be crazy.

if anyone can do it, its him
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 18 2010 13:18 GMT
#23
Jaedong fighting!
Would be interesting to watch Jaedong ZvZ against Effort.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 13:46:46
August 18 2010 13:22 GMT
#24
On August 18 2010 22:18 DemiSe wrote:
Jaedong fighting!
Would be interesting to watch Jaedong ZvZ against Effort.


I wouldn't be too surprised if he loses against Effort. Due to OSL the day before, and a Bo5 against Light on the very same day I would be quite surprised if he practiced for it, like at all, especially considering that he stated that he doesn't care to much about WCG, and that he isn't automatically eliminated if he loss to Effort anyway.

EDIT: Oh I'm a hydra!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 15:54:30
August 18 2010 15:40 GMT
#25
On August 18 2010 21:22 infinity2k9 wrote:
If Jaedong manages to win the MSL surely it would be one of the most impressive league runs ever. Difficult maps in a traditionally one-sided matchup against 3 of the best people in that matchup, it would be crazy.

I think it would still be outshadowed by Flash's run in Bacchus. Crushing all other members of TaekBangLeeSsang in BoX's and winning every game on the silly map that is Katrina.

And ya, JD is once again fucking awesome for not being a whining crybaby like the majority of all TL Zergs. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
August 18 2010 16:48 GMT
#26
I don't get how people simultaneously hold Flash to have innovate the Flash build on Katrina to crush the common PvT tactic of 2 reaver to Carriers while remarking that TvP was impossible on that map.
Jaedong
quasar
Profile Joined August 2010
140 Posts
August 18 2010 16:54 GMT
#27
On August 18 2010 19:19 Craton wrote:
Disappointed in all of his cheese, yes.

Are the IEF results buried somewhere on TL? I'm evidently inept at the search feature.



+ Show Spoiler [EffOrt's group @ IEF 2009] +
Group B
1.[image loading] Pj > [image loading] Jaystar
2.(P)Bisu < (Z)EffOrt
3.[image loading] Pj > [image loading] Artosis
4.[image loading] Jaystar > (Z)EffOrt
5.(P)Bisu - [image loading] Artosis
6.[image loading] Incontrol - (Z)EffOrt
7.(P)Bisu > [image loading] Incontrol
8.(Z)EffOrt > [image loading] Artosis
9.[image loading] Jaystar > [image loading] Incontrol
10.(P)Bisu > [image loading] Pj
11.[image loading] Artosis > [image loading] Incontrol
12.(Z)EffOrt < [image loading] Pj
13.(P)Bisu < [image loading] Jaystar
14.[image loading] Artosis < [image loading] Jaystar
15.[image loading] Incontrol < [image loading] Pj

Standings
[image loading] Pj 4-1 ► advances to playoff
[image loading] Jaystar 4-1
(P)Bisu 2-2
(Z)EffOrt 2-2
[image loading] Artosis 1-3
[image loading] Incontrol 0-4


Taken from here
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Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
August 18 2010 18:00 GMT
#28
On August 18 2010 19:41 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 14:50 OpticalShot wrote:
- How's your preparation for MSL
A: Nowadays in practice, Terrans seem to favour that strategy [T/N: I'm guessing he's referring to the proxy rax or BBS or similar early-game pushes Actually, on second thought, I think he's referring to the now-so-popular bio-into-late-mech TvZ. This makes more sense now. Fixed]. Since it's so popular, I'd like to think of it as just another standard build. I don't think there's a definite counter but if zergs adjust and play accordingly, player skill will be the deciding factor [and not the build].


THANK YOU JD. JD stands up and takes it like a man, unlike the thousands of imba whiners. Just as how EVERY Terran didn't know how to combat JD's muta micro for several years... it's only a matter of time before someone creates the 'definite counter' to the bio -> mech build.


Jaedong doesn't run around cry and acting sad, he just dust off his shoulders and keep on moving.
Who let the dogs out?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 18 2010 18:20 GMT
#29

Jaedong doesn't run around cry and acting sad, he just dust off his shoulders and keep on moving.


Jaedong FIGHTING
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 18 2010 19:21 GMT
#30
On August 18 2010 19:41 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 14:50 OpticalShot wrote:
- How's your preparation for MSL
A: Nowadays in practice, Terrans seem to favour that strategy [T/N: I'm guessing he's referring to the proxy rax or BBS or similar early-game pushes Actually, on second thought, I think he's referring to the now-so-popular bio-into-late-mech TvZ. This makes more sense now. Fixed]. Since it's so popular, I'd like to think of it as just another standard build. I don't think there's a definite counter but if zergs adjust and play accordingly, player skill will be the deciding factor [and not the build].


THANK YOU JD. JD stands up and takes it like a man, unlike the thousands of imba whiners. Just as how EVERY Terran didn't know how to combat JD's muta micro for several years... it's only a matter of time before someone creates the 'definite counter' to the bio -> mech build.


Completely agree. This is a great quote from Jaedong. It must be frustrating as the zerg but he clearly has what it takes to overcome racial disadvantages.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 18 2010 20:10 GMT
#31
On August 19 2010 01:48 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I don't get how people simultaneously hold Flash to have innovate the Flash build on Katrina to crush the common PvT tactic of 2 reaver to Carriers while remarking that TvP was impossible on that map.

He made it possible.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
August 18 2010 20:18 GMT
#32
On August 18 2010 22:22 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2010 22:18 DemiSe wrote:
Jaedong fighting!
Would be interesting to watch Jaedong ZvZ against Effort.


I wouldn't be too surprised if he loses against Effort. Due to OSL the day before, and a Bo5 against Light on the very same day I would be quite surprised if he practiced for it, like at all, especially considering that he stated that he doesn't care to much about WCG, and that he isn't automatically eliminated if he loss to Effort anyway.

EDIT: Oh I'm a hydra!


he said he didn't care about winning WCG, but that he really wants to go to LA... but you're probably right he might not even practice for it
jaedong imba
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-18 20:34:44
August 18 2010 20:34 GMT
#33
On August 18 2010 16:13 GTR wrote:
i think messiah comes from savior's id, and that effort is (undisputedly) savior's protege.


Nah, It comes from Effort's "Hawk Eyes" -> "Hawk Vision"

Hence it's 매시아 (Hawk Vision) whenever you refer to Effort, which sounds the same as 메시아 (Messiah). It's just a pun
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 18 2010 23:19 GMT
#34
im actually glad for the bio -> mech transition that zergs seem to have so much trouble fighting off... shows that the game is still evolving after a decade...

in a couple months zergs will learn to effectively deal with these terrans and then take it a step further and exploit some weakness in the bio->mech transition play. this will put terrans on the backfoot and will force them to rethink and so on...... gives me hope that bw might live on longer and longer now that star2 is out
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August 18 2010 23:29 GMT
#35
Zerg's answer to Fantasy mech silliness was much harder imo than zerg countering this bio transition.


There is still a lot zerg can do to seal the game before the transition, and after the transition. It is obvious standard play won't cut it.
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