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Gretech/GomTV and KeSPA sign an NDA - Page 2

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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
August 09 2010 15:11 GMT
#21
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.
ppp
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 09 2010 15:13 GMT
#22
On August 10 2010 00:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.


Would like to hear more about this.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 09 2010 17:02 GMT
#23
I hope that this NDA doesnt lead into Gretech getting away with ridiculous demands to which KeSPA can't awnser. Without an NDA KeSPA can atleast complain if its the case and show the fans whats going on, to rally their support.

Is the Ministry of Esports in on this? I mean, are they aware of what the negotiations entail? If so, this new body of rule can make thngs more reasonable.


I hope.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
August 09 2010 17:07 GMT
#24
Hmm.... I was hoping KeSPA to rebel and ignore into Blizzard/Gretech demands and somehow win in the courts of their freedom from Blizzard IPs rights.... but it seems that won't happen and KeSPA took the easy way out.... unless they're planning something else....
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 09 2010 17:12 GMT
#25
On August 10 2010 00:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142000

l10f already translated the interview that "speculation" article that it was based on

most people agree it's quite an overinterpretation anyway
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:17:39
August 09 2010 20:16 GMT
#26
On August 09 2010 20:58 GTR wrote:
GOM have a broad range of cable channels available, they are owned by CJ after all which has like 60% ownage of the cable channels.

"60% ownage"? haha.

But after how much Gretech has been emphasizing that it's making decisions independently of CJ, I don't think they'll be carrying GomTV's programs on cable so easily.

Plus CJ won't necessarily make channels available to Gretech just because Gretech is owned by them...Gretech is a pretty tiny part of CJ's holdings.

Edit:
On August 10 2010 00:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.

Well if this source is reliable then maybe CJ does see big things in it. We'll see.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Mikami_
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Estonia274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:20:09
August 09 2010 20:19 GMT
#27
On August 09 2010 21:31 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 21:10 Hyde wrote:
NDA kind of sucks, but I guess we'll find out in the end what the results will be. As long as BW continues, that's all that matters to me right now.


Yep, i think it's kind of sad if kespa would have to pay royalities to blizzard, but if at the end of the day BW continues, then all is well.

"KeSPA has expressed its position of being willing to pay for a rational level of usage fee and appeal its support of marketing and promotion for product line-up of Blizzard with continuous investment such as sharing all contents which belong to KeSPA like pro gamers, broadcasting and sponsorship.

However, Blizzard has asserted not the right as a copyright but unreasonable demands as following.

1. Set the contract term for using its games to 1 year
2. Prior approvals about all league operations such as contracting sponsorship, marketing materials, broadcasting plan
3. License fee for running of league and all license fee of sponsorship inducement
4. Ownership of all broadcasted programs, program videos
5. Right to audit KeSPA"
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 09 2010 20:44 GMT
#28
CJ has been holding all the power since Gretech obtained the exclusive license from Blizzard. It's a matter of how much CJ wants to maintain the status quo and how much they believe in/will invest in "new media" (what an old term!). Both Ongamenet and GomTV are trivial parts of its enterprise, unless they see them as future growth prospects or potential disruptors, it's probably no big deal to the CJ head office.

However, the entire professional Brood War scene exists to provide a relatively low cost method for the sponsors to promote their products. (Well almost all cable television can be summed up like that.) With that in mind, Kespa really has been there to serve the interests of the sponsors by doing its best to keep costs low (limiting player and other costs) and maintain the audience by providing a sense of fairness and professionalism (which they don't always succeed at). The Kespa vs OGN/MBC saga shows that Kespa represents the sponsors primarily, moreso than the broadcasters. By extracting a licensing fee for the rights to "Proleague", the sponsors' costs were slightly reduced, and by somehow managing to assert the rights in the first place, the sponsors (well, "Kespa") were no longer locked into dealing with OGN or MBC.

The current question now to me is how does CJ view its fellow sponsors represented by Kespa and the current structure of the scene? If CJ is happy with how things are, the sublicensing terms Gretech ends up agreeing to will probably be relatively favorable for OGN, MBC, and Kespa and things will continue the way they have, and Activision Blizzard was suckered by CJ/OGN/Kespa, if the Gretech deal wasn't too costly. If CJ (with OGN) decides to shift the balance of power, they could too, but I don't think it'd be good PR for whatever advantage they decide to grasp. The last possibility is that Gretech, OGN, and CJ are really acting like independent entities...but given the general South Korean business structure, I doubt this is the case.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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