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Gretech/GomTV and KeSPA sign an NDA

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 11:02:36
August 09 2010 10:44 GMT
#1
Source: FOMOS

In a sign that negotiations are imminent, Gretech and KeSPA have signed an NDA (Non-disclosure agreement) which would guarantee the secrecy of said negotiations.

As the sole holder of the rights to broadcast Blizzard games in South Korea, Gretech gave KeSPA a grace period until the end of August to finish the past season of Proleague. Now that the season is over, it looks like KeSPA are willing to negotiate with Gretech over sub-licencing the right to broadcast Brood War games for the following season.
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
August 09 2010 10:56 GMT
#2
Hopefully they pick up sc2 games as well (Kespa that is). but that might be a bit too much wishful thinking.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 11:01:07
August 09 2010 11:00 GMT
#3
On August 09 2010 19:44 Waxangel wrote:
Gretech and Gretech have signed an NDA


In before edit.

On a more serious note, KeSPA really did not have a choice in the matter. It was either broadcast under different rules, or not broadcast. Glad BW will live longer.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 09 2010 11:02 GMT
#4
I hope we get another season .I dunno why but I feel like Gretech will allow it only if KeSPA takes up sc2 as well.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
August 09 2010 11:02 GMT
#5
On August 09 2010 20:00 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:44 Waxangel wrote:
Gretech and Gretech have signed an NDA


In before edit.

On a more serious note, KeSPA really did not have a choice in the matter. It was either broadcast under different rules, or not broadcast. Glad BW will live longer.


BAH

I can edit your edit o_o
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 09 2010 11:08 GMT
#6
On August 09 2010 19:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hopefully they pick up sc2 games as well (Kespa that is). but that might be a bit too much wishful thinking.

Not wishful in my book. Let GOM keep their SC2. As long as Blizzard doesn't fuck up BW its all the wishes I need.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 11:10:31
August 09 2010 11:09 GMT
#7
On August 09 2010 20:02 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 20:00 Hier wrote:
On August 09 2010 19:44 Waxangel wrote:
Gretech and Gretech have signed an NDA


In before edit.

On a more serious note, KeSPA really did not have a choice in the matter. It was either broadcast under different rules, or not broadcast. Glad BW will live longer.


BAH

I can edit your edit o_o

Cant edit a screenshot 8D

(though you can edit it away from the forums and ban me, but that is another story )
In the woods, there lurks..
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 11:12:17
August 09 2010 11:11 GMT
#8
On August 09 2010 19:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hopefully they pick up sc2 games as well (Kespa that is). but that might be a bit too much wishful thinking.


Gomtv can keep SC2 and let MBC and OGN continue with BW.
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 09 2010 11:21 GMT
#9
Good news I guess, but kespa could either broadcast under different rules, or not broadcast. So the choice was obvious.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 09 2010 11:21 GMT
#10
On August 09 2010 20:11 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hopefully they pick up sc2 games as well (Kespa that is). but that might be a bit too much wishful thinking.


Gomtv can keep SC2 and let MBC and OGN continue with BW.


Probably the most realistic scenario. What remains to be seen is who will pick up pro SC2 (to play that is).
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Sykra
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia38 Posts
August 09 2010 11:40 GMT
#11
On August 09 2010 20:11 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 19:56 Ftrunkz wrote:
Hopefully they pick up sc2 games as well (Kespa that is). but that might be a bit too much wishful thinking.


Gomtv can keep SC2 and let MBC and OGN continue with BW.


I don't think there is a chance gomtv will let them just continue broadcasting BW without sneaking in some GSL games on MBC and OGN. They have mentioned they want a cable channel doing some GSL games anyways.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
August 09 2010 11:58 GMT
#12
GOM have a broad range of cable channels available, they are owned by CJ after all which has like 60% ownage of the cable channels.
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kmdarkmaster
Profile Joined January 2010
France188 Posts
August 09 2010 12:01 GMT
#13
Yeeaahh BW will live forever (until SC2 has its LAN hehe).
Really great move by both parties, hopefully e-sport will develop more and more due to this.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 12:15:50
August 09 2010 12:08 GMT
#14
I think Blizzard / Gom needs KeSPA for Starcraft 2 and KeSPA needs Gom for broadcasting rights so this is a good move on both sides on the fence.

On August 09 2010 21:10 Hyde wrote:
NDA kind of sucks, but I guess we'll find out in the end what the results will be. As long as Sc2 prevails, that's all that matters to me right now.


Agreed
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 09 2010 12:10 GMT
#15
NDA kind of sucks, but I guess we'll find out in the end what the results will be. As long as BW continues, that's all that matters to me right now.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 09 2010 12:31 GMT
#16
On August 09 2010 21:10 Hyde wrote:
NDA kind of sucks, but I guess we'll find out in the end what the results will be. As long as BW continues, that's all that matters to me right now.


Yep, i think it's kind of sad if kespa would have to pay royalities to blizzard, but if at the end of the day BW continues, then all is well.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 12:51:48
August 09 2010 12:51 GMT
#17
hope it works well, bw will never die !
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
August 09 2010 12:57 GMT
#18
Please let OGN and MBC pick up Starcraft 2.

For the better of ESPORTS
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kmdarkmaster
Profile Joined January 2010
France188 Posts
August 09 2010 12:59 GMT
#19
On August 09 2010 21:31 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 21:10 Hyde wrote:
NDA kind of sucks, but I guess we'll find out in the end what the results will be. As long as BW continues, that's all that matters to me right now.


Yep, i think it's kind of sad if kespa would have to pay royalities to blizzard, but if at the end of the day BW continues, then all is well.


Loyalties are ok, just don't let Blizz to control the whole proscene.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 15:10:08
August 09 2010 15:09 GMT
#20
On August 09 2010 20:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 20:02 Waxangel wrote:
On August 09 2010 20:00 Hier wrote:
On August 09 2010 19:44 Waxangel wrote:
Gretech and Gretech have signed an NDA


In before edit.

On a more serious note, KeSPA really did not have a choice in the matter. It was either broadcast under different rules, or not broadcast. Glad BW will live longer.


BAH

I can edit your edit o_o

Cant edit a screenshot 8D

(though you can edit it away from the forums and ban me, but that is another story )


Sounds like a good time to introduce you to my friend: Mr. Photoshop!

I think it'd be end up well if OGN/MBC continued with BW, while GOM focused on sc2. I don't mind having 5000 vods to watch a day with three individual leagues + PL, but it'd probably be easier that way.
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
August 09 2010 15:11 GMT
#21
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 09 2010 15:13 GMT
#22
On August 10 2010 00:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.


Would like to hear more about this.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 09 2010 17:02 GMT
#23
I hope that this NDA doesnt lead into Gretech getting away with ridiculous demands to which KeSPA can't awnser. Without an NDA KeSPA can atleast complain if its the case and show the fans whats going on, to rally their support.

Is the Ministry of Esports in on this? I mean, are they aware of what the negotiations entail? If so, this new body of rule can make thngs more reasonable.


I hope.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
August 09 2010 17:07 GMT
#24
Hmm.... I was hoping KeSPA to rebel and ignore into Blizzard/Gretech demands and somehow win in the courts of their freedom from Blizzard IPs rights.... but it seems that won't happen and KeSPA took the easy way out.... unless they're planning something else....
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 09 2010 17:12 GMT
#25
On August 10 2010 00:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142000

l10f already translated the interview that "speculation" article that it was based on

most people agree it's quite an overinterpretation anyway
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:17:39
August 09 2010 20:16 GMT
#26
On August 09 2010 20:58 GTR wrote:
GOM have a broad range of cable channels available, they are owned by CJ after all which has like 60% ownage of the cable channels.

"60% ownage"? haha.

But after how much Gretech has been emphasizing that it's making decisions independently of CJ, I don't think they'll be carrying GomTV's programs on cable so easily.

Plus CJ won't necessarily make channels available to Gretech just because Gretech is owned by them...Gretech is a pretty tiny part of CJ's holdings.

Edit:
On August 10 2010 00:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Another sources say that GOM wants to have a Cable television network pick up GSL. However, if no one wants to pick it up, they are willing to create ANOTHER game channel.

I will translate this one in a few, if possible.

Well if this source is reliable then maybe CJ does see big things in it. We'll see.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Mikami_
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Estonia274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 20:20:09
August 09 2010 20:19 GMT
#27
On August 09 2010 21:31 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 21:10 Hyde wrote:
NDA kind of sucks, but I guess we'll find out in the end what the results will be. As long as BW continues, that's all that matters to me right now.


Yep, i think it's kind of sad if kespa would have to pay royalities to blizzard, but if at the end of the day BW continues, then all is well.

"KeSPA has expressed its position of being willing to pay for a rational level of usage fee and appeal its support of marketing and promotion for product line-up of Blizzard with continuous investment such as sharing all contents which belong to KeSPA like pro gamers, broadcasting and sponsorship.

However, Blizzard has asserted not the right as a copyright but unreasonable demands as following.

1. Set the contract term for using its games to 1 year
2. Prior approvals about all league operations such as contracting sponsorship, marketing materials, broadcasting plan
3. License fee for running of league and all license fee of sponsorship inducement
4. Ownership of all broadcasted programs, program videos
5. Right to audit KeSPA"
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 09 2010 20:44 GMT
#28
CJ has been holding all the power since Gretech obtained the exclusive license from Blizzard. It's a matter of how much CJ wants to maintain the status quo and how much they believe in/will invest in "new media" (what an old term!). Both Ongamenet and GomTV are trivial parts of its enterprise, unless they see them as future growth prospects or potential disruptors, it's probably no big deal to the CJ head office.

However, the entire professional Brood War scene exists to provide a relatively low cost method for the sponsors to promote their products. (Well almost all cable television can be summed up like that.) With that in mind, Kespa really has been there to serve the interests of the sponsors by doing its best to keep costs low (limiting player and other costs) and maintain the audience by providing a sense of fairness and professionalism (which they don't always succeed at). The Kespa vs OGN/MBC saga shows that Kespa represents the sponsors primarily, moreso than the broadcasters. By extracting a licensing fee for the rights to "Proleague", the sponsors' costs were slightly reduced, and by somehow managing to assert the rights in the first place, the sponsors (well, "Kespa") were no longer locked into dealing with OGN or MBC.

The current question now to me is how does CJ view its fellow sponsors represented by Kespa and the current structure of the scene? If CJ is happy with how things are, the sublicensing terms Gretech ends up agreeing to will probably be relatively favorable for OGN, MBC, and Kespa and things will continue the way they have, and Activision Blizzard was suckered by CJ/OGN/Kespa, if the Gretech deal wasn't too costly. If CJ (with OGN) decides to shift the balance of power, they could too, but I don't think it'd be good PR for whatever advantage they decide to grasp. The last possibility is that Gretech, OGN, and CJ are really acting like independent entities...but given the general South Korean business structure, I doubt this is the case.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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