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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 25 2010 01:37 GMT
#241
Thanks for the translation! I've been aware of this ever since I got into eSports when I was a competitive CS 1.6 and semi-WC3/SC player. Sadly, there are so many people in the world who still believe the whole "Korean progamers are treated like rock stars while making 6 digit salaries!" What they do not know is that those are only the top ranked players who manage to win MSL/OSL titles.

I'll admit that one point in my life (around 8th grade - freshmen year) I wanted to be a progamer in either CS or WC3 (I Played SC since I was in 6th grade, but it was mainly money maps and I didn't appreciate the game until later on), but then I realized that it was nothing but a dream since I've heard stories of CS 1.6 pros dropping out of high school (I.E. ShaGuar) to play a game and getting paid very little. They eventually retired from the game and no one has heard from them since, but only few remain to be apart of the scene whether they are a team manager or commentator.

I think that all inspiring players should read this article and rethink if all the time they have put into the game is worth it or not. I'm not trying to tell people to stop playing because I respect other peoples' choices. It's best to rethink the plan because you absolutely regret it.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 25 2010 03:35 GMT
#242
What I'm curious about are the salaries of commentators in particular. The comments in this thread hinted at OGN and MBC raking in the vast majority of the profits (lol "profits"). Are those earnings redistributed in some way for the commentators?
#TeamBuLba
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
May 25 2010 06:40 GMT
#243
Guess the people calling KespA "the voice of the players" or "the good guys" can stfu up
I
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
May 25 2010 07:08 GMT
#244
On May 24 2010 16:02 Phrujbaz wrote:
Why do so many people want to become a progamer? What is so awful about ordinary life? Perhaps the ridiculous school hours in Korea play a role here. Maybe we need to put minimum wage into effect for those hours too.

Why do so many people want to lead an ordinary life... What's so awful in being a PROGAMER?
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
May 25 2010 10:16 GMT
#245
i remember seeing pictures of someones visit to a team house. had like 4-6+ bunk beds in a room. its really a different image now that i read this article. and its quite sad that only a few reap the rewards and some many others get shafted.

a players union wouldve been great, but now its probably too little too late
oodug
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9 Posts
May 25 2010 17:07 GMT
#246
Wow. Thanks for the translation. Certainly some food for thought about the SK scene.
I like to play.
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
May 25 2010 18:00 GMT
#247
Wow, I didn't know Blizzard wasn't cooperating with kespa. I'm starting to think Blizzard isn't the company it once was.
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
May 26 2010 00:10 GMT
#248
On May 26 2010 03:00 hejakev wrote:
Wow, I didn't know Blizzard wasn't cooperating with kespa. I'm starting to think Blizzard isn't the company it once was.

sounds more like kespa isnt cooperating with blizzard
FiRewater
Profile Joined April 2010
United States56 Posts
May 26 2010 16:48 GMT
#249
hejakev, Simple nailed it on the head. Blizzard has been in talks with Kespa forever without the slighest change from Kespa, they've had enough. Even though there are NFL teams and that's what the fans are watching, the NFL is still making a large sum of money since it's there league. Blizzard created the game and should ultimately have some say.
Tidesson
Profile Joined April 2010
55 Posts
May 28 2010 15:29 GMT
#250
"The adults are making profits out of the children's passion."

You can basically sum everything up with that line. Videogame industry has always been like that. And sadly, I don't think it will ever change. But I have hopes that somewhere in the future someone like Boxer or any of the other known pros lead some kind of "revolution" and refuse to live under those conditions, so law is changed in some way that allows them to lead normal lives.
Bobby Kotick: from now on, this company shall be called BeLizard. Derp derp.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 09:46:47
June 01 2010 09:42 GMT
#251
Despite this excellent article, there will still be people defending KeSPA and belittling this article. LOL. Even Boxer hinting at the problem is not enough to convince some people.

Corporations are in it to keep eSports alive? Hahahahahahah.. CORPORATIONS ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY! Money can come in many forms. It doesn't need direct sales such as tickets. If Starcraft progaming TV cease to exist next week, it wouldn't matter at all. Why? Because there is a demand for Starcraft. If OSL, MSL suddenly died, it wouldn't matter. There will be other leagues that will take its place. KeSPA cease to exist tomorrow? Again, no problem.

Anyone ever notice how most of all E-Stro players look like crap, as though they have not slept for months? Progamers do not have to be treated as slaves inorder for eSports to be successful. It's only the corporations telling people that. If progaming was to reboot with better conditions for their players, eSports will not die. Why should it when there is a healthy demand for it. And for the corporation saying "players are better off being young for talent," it is basically saying "we don't want our players worrying about a life, military service, and university degree." Corporations don't want their players doing anything that isn't related to programing. They do not want players old enough to think for themselves.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
Wolfpox
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada164 Posts
June 06 2010 11:16 GMT
#252
What a sad article. I figured this must be something like how it works, but hopefully Blizzard can do something with GomTV and turn things around, if Blizzard doesn't want it to reflect on them. After all, if they want to suddenly have control, that means they have some responsibility.
[B] Butigroove wrote:[/B] Blizzard is double expanding to the natural gold base of our poor little nerd hearts.
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