[MSL Spoiler] His Overwhelming Advantage - Page 9
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
On January 24 2010 08:49 TeWy wrote: Could you please point out some examples of that Baseball thing ? I would like to know what they consider to be a "clear advantage". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainout_(sports) If a game is rained out before play begins, it is rescheduled for a later date. If it has already begun and rain falls, several scenarios are used to determine the need to resume play: * If the game has completed the top half of the 5th inning and the home team is ahead, the game can be deemed an official game. The home team is declared the winner, and the game officially counts in standings. * If the game has completed the bottom half of the 5th inning and either team is ahead, the game can be deemed an official game. The leading team is declared the winner, and the game officially counts in standings. * If the game has completed the 5th inning, and the teams are tied, or if the game is a playoff game, the game is considered suspended, and the resumption of the game is scheduled for a future date (usually the following day). The game picks up from where it left off. * If neither of the previous three scenarios apply, the game can not be deemed official. The umpire declares "No Game," and a make-up of the game is scheduled for a future date. The statistics compiled during the rained out game are not counted. Obviously there's the bit about the playoff game, but in this scenario, we're clearly not in a position where we could simply pick up a Starcraft game from where it left off. The alternative would be a rematch from scratch, which should be the absolute last resort and in this particular instance, I think it would have been unwarranted given the fact that there was such a clear advantage. Of course it'll always be an argument, but my point was merely to state that such a decision isn't unprecedented in the sporting world and shouldn't reflect negatively on KeSPA just because they happened to make it. The funny thing about Baseball's rule to me is that it only requires the game to be more than half over (the same with Motorsports). I think we can all agree that Game 3 of the MSL was probably well past that point when the blackout happened.. | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
* If the game has completed the 5th inning, and the teams are tied, or if the game is a playoff game, the game is considered suspended, and the resumption of the game is scheduled for a future date (usually the following day). The game picks up from where it left off. It was this, but the bases were loaded and there was a slugger going up against a very tired pitcher. | ||
FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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vOddy
Sweden402 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:00 koreasilver wrote: Hey everyone, lets repeat the same arguments ad infinitum. Smart idea | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On January 24 2010 08:49 JiYan wrote: jaedong won the match imo, but i wouldnt say he cemented his spot as the best. lets be real, flash wasnt playing in top form. Jaedong in OSL wasnt in top form either, but that prevented no one from saying JD's ZvT is not the best anymore. Or "standard or cheese, whatever Flash rapes Jaedong". | ||
Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
After: Uh Flash was way behind but hey remember when TT lost? | ||
peanutter
Australia165 Posts
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HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
On January 24 2010 08:56 jalstar wrote: It was this, but the bases were loaded and there was a slugger going up against a very tired pitcher. Well, I don't think the situation was nearly as dramatic as you paint it to be. The major battle for 7 o'clock was already over and Flash was headed back to defend his expansion with what little troops he had so I would view it as 9th inning with 2 outs and no runners on base while behind 5-1. Possible? Yes. Likely? No? Should it have been played out? Of course, but that's impossible given the blackout and lack of a save file. The main question is, should 8 2/3 innings of play be thrown out because of the rain? Obviously everyone has different opinions regarding this... Even with set rules in the MLB, fans always rage when games are decided by rain. It's obviously no different here. KeSPA really was put into a horrible situation here. Unfortunately someone has to get shit on, and in this case it happened to be Flash. | ||
Jlab
United States217 Posts
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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:04 Jlab wrote: They shuolda gone into map editor and recreated the game. then it would have been fair. Lol this may have taken less time than flash's dad and the KT Coach antics. But they will never know exactly what each mineral patch was at, etc etc etc | ||
HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
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sh02hp0869
Sweden460 Posts
But still its a hard decision to take and its never fair. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 24 2010 03:46 JWD wrote: motbob I agree with your game analysis but not your conclusion. I'm busting ass on a school assignment that's due in 3hrs15min right now, but if I've still got any steam left when I finish I will make another OP with my argument. no, post it here there's a million threads already hahahahah anyway, motbob's analysis of the game is spot on. i am without question in favor of a regame. i find the idea that it's "more unfair to jaedong" because his build only works once to be completely ludicrous. that one-in-ten chance of flash winning is enough to warrant a rematch | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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magicbullet
Singapore163 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: no, post it here there's a million threads already hahahahah anyway, motbob's analysis of the game is spot on. i am without question in favor of a regame. i find the idea that it's "more unfair to jaedong" because his build only works once to be completely ludicrous. that one-in-ten chance of flash winning is enough to warrant a rematch At the expense of JD's 9 in 10 chance of winning, which he acquired over 18 mins of fantastic play and an opening build that countered Flash's plan, and expect him to start anew in a terran-favored map? | ||
piratebay
United States399 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: no, post it here there's a million threads already hahahahah anyway, motbob's analysis of the game is spot on. i am without question in favor of a regame. i find the idea that it's "more unfair to jaedong" because his build only works once to be completely ludicrous. that one-in-ten chance of flash winning is enough to warrant a rematch i would have liked a regame for the chance of seeing more games between these two. but i still think that jaedong had it in the bag. if flash pressured at all with his tiny force elsewhere on the map, jaedong would have just backstabbed flash's only real mining expo. trade one base for terrans only mining base that will last? hell yeah on zergs part. but it just sucks and i believe the kespa refs made the best call they could. fuck mbc for not having resource counters, it woulda made it even easier for people to judge. | ||
Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On January 24 2010 09:23 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: no, post it here there's a million threads already hahahahah anyway, motbob's analysis of the game is spot on. i am without question in favor of a regame. i find the idea that it's "more unfair to jaedong" because his build only works once to be completely ludicrous. that one-in-ten chance of flash winning is enough to warrant a rematch Then Bisu should have been given a rematch vs Julyzerg. | ||
Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
Oh being told that you lose a game due to a power outage is the fairest thing ive ever heard of | ||
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