EPTI'm not advocating jumping on whoever at the minute is winning, but so many of you seem to think that's what everybody does. The best players have more fans. A player who is doing well in all of the leagues will continue to get coverage and talked about because they're consistently televised and doing well. It creates an illusion of extreme fanboyism that just isn't there.
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
I'm not advocating jumping on whoever at the minute is winning, but so many of you seem to think that's what everybody does. The best players have more fans. A player who is doing well in all of the leagues will continue to get coverage and talked about because they're consistently televised and doing well. It creates an illusion of extreme fanboyism that just isn't there. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
I'm not spoiling anything. You can't deduce who won what games. + Show Spoiler + But we can deduct that there is no game 5 lol. So when i ll be watching game 4 i will know the winner. So that means you spoiled the match. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On January 01 2010 11:53 MrHoon wrote: lol so many flash fans in TL If I heard this 2 years ago I would've died laughing Y'all are bandwagoners. I've liked Flash since he cheesed Bisu out of a starleague. That is all  | ||
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
On January 01 2010 21:24 BookTwo wrote: I'm not spoiling anything. You can't deduce who won what games. Flash v Calm: + Show Spoiler + it gets tricky here, since your 1st comment wasn't a spoiler, but this one makes it a spoiler ;d Totally harmless though the match could've been 2-0 or 1-1 going into the 3rd set, but since you said this, now we know it couldn't have been 2-0, else we would know who won the 3rd set. So we know who wins the 2nd set after watching the 1st one. ceaRshaf: I don't see how you came to that conclusion. | ||
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Piste
6183 Posts
I enjoy watching nnowday's games way more. | ||
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stenole
Norway869 Posts
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GTR
51694 Posts
On January 02 2010 06:32 Jayme wrote: I've liked Flash since he cheesed Bisu out of a starleague. That is all ever since he demolished TT and Bisu in the ODT baby! | ||
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ProbeSaturation
Canada292 Posts
i do not troll | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
i do not troll either | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
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HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
The problem really lies in the fact that Starcraft is a competitive game and players are paid to win, not to entertain the audience. In an environment where the skill gap between players is consistently shrinking, players today don't have the room to screw around and do outlandish things in games nor do they have a whole lot of room to start experimenting with things. In order to be successful, players must find the most effective builds and strategy and unfortunately, that means you see relatively predictable games in the end. The best Starcraft players aren't the ones that pull something out of nowhere magically. They are the ones that are consistently good. Flash is probably the perfect example of this at the moment. He doesn't have the highlight of Boxer or Nada, but his gameplay is precise and accurate that he has no need for such highlights to win a game. If anything, the highlights are coming from those that are playing AGAINST Flash when he is occasionally beaten because it almost takes some sort of highlight moment to get a one-up on him. So long as players' salaries and contracts are affected by their Win/Loss record, expect to see them continue to strive for perfection regardless of how exciting or dull the resulting games are. If you want to think of it another way, think about baseball. Did you know that often Little League or Minor League baseball is actually more entertaining to watch in many instances? You wouldn't initially think so, but it makes sense when you realize that professionals are more likely to catch the ball or throw it accurately, therefore behave and perform more predictably. On the other hand, lesser skilled players make more mistakes and despite their lower skill level, there's excitement for the person watching because you're not so sure that they'll make the double play or if the catcher will be able to make the throw to 2nd base in time. Of course Major League Baseball compensates for this with the overall game experience which means big stadiums, concession stands, giant crowds, marketing, high profile rivalries, etc. But when it comes down to it, amateurs are often more fun to watch than seriously competing professionals when it comes down to pure visual entertainment. I think an interesting way to make Starcraft more fun to watch for the average person is to add a "minor league" type of system for so many of the 2nd stringers we see on the sidelines. I'm sure if you watch the lesser skilled people play, you'll often see a lot more of "old school Starcraft" in it. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On January 02 2010 08:41 HeartOfTofu wrote: I think an interesting way to make Starcraft more fun to watch for the average person is to add a "minor league" type of system for so many of the 2nd stringers we see on the sidelines. I'm sure if you watch the lesser skilled people play, you'll often see a lot more of "old school Starcraft" in it. Foreigner matches? B-teamers might not be that interesting to watch though, I feel that it'd be just as much standard boring playing as with A-team pros, just a small bit worse, and without that excitement of important games. | ||
disciple
9071 Posts
On January 02 2010 08:12 Harem wrote: flash and jaedong >> bisu i do not troll either haha <3 dont get us started. You will never see the light, and you will never enjoy watching professional starcraft , if you are not a fan of KTY. As a matter of fact, I think all you Bisu haters are getting real life completely wrong | ||
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BookTwo
1985 Posts
On January 02 2010 06:28 ceaRshaf wrote: + Show Spoiler + But we can deduct that there is no game 5 lol. So when i ll be watching game 4 i will know the winner. So that means you spoiled the match. + Show Spoiler + How can you 'deduct' that there is no game 5? I never metioned the scores, for all anyone knows, there couldn't even be a set 4, I could have been lying. My post did not spoil anything, unless you opened the spoiler, but even then you don't know who won. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
If anything the game against Best and + Show Spoiler + the set vs Calm Flash is so entertaining as he can play basically any start at the level impossible for me and many others. He is so versatile and yet so solid. That's why I find him incredibly entertaining. I don't want even to list memorable games involving Flash but there were tons and I'm 100% positive there will be lots of them in the future. | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On January 02 2010 08:12 Harem wrote: flash and jaedong >> bisu i do not troll either Pathetic Bisu hater troll detected. | ||
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
On January 02 2010 09:43 BookTwo wrote: + Show Spoiler + How can you 'deduct' that there is no game 5? I never metioned the scores, for all anyone knows, there couldn't even be a set 4, I could have been lying. My post did not spoil anything, unless you opened the spoiler, but even then you don't know who won. I think what they mean is this part: + Show Spoiler + flash vs calm set 4 just finished like 5 mins ago For anyone who hasn't watched any games, it automatically means a) No one wins 3-0 b) if anyone wins 2-0, they will know before hand that the person will lose set 3. If they both went 1-1, it would be all fine though, but this is taking into account someone who hasn't watched ANY game of the series, its a spoiler. Not a major one, but one nevertheless. But enough about spoilers, back on topic, To each his own (even though I agree with the majority that the OP is just hating on SC just because his least liked player is owning it up) Kinda like how Marvel vs Capcom 2 has been "all figured out with top-tiers etc" Every game has this one guy who thinks he's "enlightened" on how the game "isn't as good as its being made out to be" >_> | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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kroko
Finland2136 Posts
On January 01 2010 17:37 fearus wrote: replays killed starcraft agreed ! Funny thing is the only thing I usually do anymore is watch reps T_T... Every PvZ is same builds v same builds with even same sim citys everytime... Mad respects to players who play cheesy/not mainstream style such as octzerg, timothy etc !.. | ||
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