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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 30 2009 08:16 GMT
#21
leta cannot be listed with that group.
never, ever, ever.
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bluemanrocks
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 08:20:39
December 30 2009 08:19 GMT
#22
On December 30 2009 17:02 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 17:01 iLoveKT wrote:
of course (T)Really is top 5. name other terrans that are "good" right now other than (T)Flash.

that being said, I (Z)Love (T)Really coz he is a macro oriented player like (T)Flash.


(T)Sea
i like (T)Really but when he loses to players like (P)MuJuK it makes me go


imo the terrans qualified in the starleagues, (T)Hwasin, (T)Light and (T)Flash obviously, are playing pretty well, as is (T)Leta and i could see someone putting those 4 and (T)Sea as top 5 terrans currently. but as far as top 5 players go, i think theres no question that (T)Really isnt (Z)Just good or bad right now, but solid in general.

edit: o.O you really think letas that bad artosis??
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 30 2009 08:20 GMT
#23
hope he does well in the sparkyz!

sparkyz hwaiting!
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
December 30 2009 08:22 GMT
#24
You guys seem to be forgetting Fantasy.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
December 30 2009 08:23 GMT
#25
On December 30 2009 17:22 Whiplash wrote:
You guys seem to be forgetting Fantasy.


nope
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 30 2009 08:24 GMT
#26
leta cannot be listed with players like fantasy, sea, flash, etc.

leta....he did so well on the back of gimicy build orders. yes, he did well, congrats to him for that. but if he faces an S class player in a bo5, hes should fall every single time.
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Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 08:26:17
December 30 2009 08:25 GMT
#27
On December 30 2009 17:22 Whiplash wrote:
You guys seem to be forgetting Fantasy.


Judging from recent performances I would, unfortunatley, not include fantasy in a top five terran list despite how much I would like to.,..

edit: though I do like skyhigh...anyone else?
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 30 2009 08:27 GMT
#28
skyhigh is really good. very impressive player.
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SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 30 2009 08:27 GMT
#29
On December 30 2009 16:46 Artosis wrote:
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On December 30 2009 16:40 Empyrean wrote:
If he finds breaking into the A team because of Upmagic and Really difficult, why does he think it'll be any easier competing against go.go and Leta?


because it will be. you cant compare those 2 to upmagic and really.
despite what any foreigner's impression of the 2 estro terrans is, really is considered by every progamer in korea as top 5 terran in the world, and upmagic is like leta, except hes better.

puma is actually one of the most asked-for players to practice vs by top progamers.


Interesting
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 08:29:22
December 30 2009 08:28 GMT
#30
On December 30 2009 17:24 Artosis wrote:
leta cannot be listed with players like fantasy, sea, flash, etc.

leta....he did so well on the back of gimicy build orders. yes, he did well, congrats to him for that. but if he faces an S class player in a bo5, hes should fall every single time.

But Really hadn't even been in a Bo5 with an s-class progamer.

Hell, he hasn't even made it into the Ro16 of any leagues.

Also, Leta beat Really twice in the same day very recently.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 08:34:43
December 30 2009 08:31 GMT
#31
Artosis leta was the one pwned flash last OSL yes?
Edit opps it was MSL
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 30 2009 08:32 GMT
#32
On December 30 2009 17:28 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 17:24 Artosis wrote:
leta cannot be listed with players like fantasy, sea, flash, etc.

leta....he did so well on the back of gimicy build orders. yes, he did well, congrats to him for that. but if he faces an S class player in a bo5, hes should fall every single time.

But Really hadn't even been in a Bo5 with an s-class progamer.

Hell, he hasn't even made it into the Ro16 of any leagues.

Also, Leta beat Really twice in the same day very recently.


Yeah, as I said, it takes time for a player of this style to rise up. It should happen, its expected to happen. I have never played Sea.Really, what I'm telling you comes directly from the mouth of the top progamers who practice with everyone who is good.

Just because Leta beat Really twice doesn't mean anything. Again, lets look to IdrA for an example. OctZerg beat him twice on the same day recently. Yet no one pretends that OctZerg is better. SC is far too complicated for such a simple ranking system.
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 30 2009 08:33 GMT
#33
On December 30 2009 17:31 rei wrote:
Artosis leta was the one pwned flash last OSL yes?


what kind of build did he end the series with? was it one that showed he was a better player, or one that double underlined what i said about him?
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
December 30 2009 08:35 GMT
#34
On December 30 2009 17:33 Artosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 17:31 rei wrote:
Artosis leta was the one pwned flash last OSL yes?


what kind of build did he end the series with? was it one that showed he was a better player, or one that double underlined what i said about him?


I think it was one that won the game
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2009 08:36 GMT
#35
On December 30 2009 17:14 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 16:59 IdrA wrote:
On December 30 2009 16:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 16:46 Artosis wrote:
despite what any foreigner's impression of the 2 estro terrans is, really is considered by every progamer in korea as top 5 terran in the world


I know you have a lot of estro bias Dan, but... seriously??

Edit - Not trying to doubt you or take away anything from Really, he's actually been one of my favorite's to watch recently, but I just find that really hard to believe (no pun intended).

protip:
when people who know something about gaming have opinions, and yours differ from theirs, you should reevaluate your opinions before questioning theirs.


Hey Greg,

No shit. Was it that hard to figure out I was looking for him to elaborate (which he immediately did)? buthnxforyourprotipthoughgreatlyappreciatedkk.

you say he has estro bias
"seriously??"
"i just find that really hard to believe"
ya you werent questioning him at all.

if you wanted him to elaborate you would say "well thats interesting could you explain why you think that?" not "well i find that hard to believe and you're biased"
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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
December 30 2009 08:37 GMT
#36
I tought it was pretty obvious to anyone that Really is a top 5 terran. I mean.... Hwasin? wtf, are you guys stuck in 2007 or something?
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We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
December 30 2009 08:38 GMT
#37
On December 30 2009 17:35 Chaos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 17:33 Artosis wrote:
On December 30 2009 17:31 rei wrote:
Artosis leta was the one pwned flash last OSL yes?


what kind of build did he end the series with? was it one that showed he was a better player, or one that double underlined what i said about him?


I think it was one that won the game
i think youre missing his point
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 30 2009 08:40 GMT
#38
the point is one can reasonably say it's better to play gimmicky and win then to play the preferred macro style and lose
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
December 30 2009 08:41 GMT
#39
On December 30 2009 17:36 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 17:14 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 16:59 IdrA wrote:
On December 30 2009 16:55 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 16:46 Artosis wrote:
despite what any foreigner's impression of the 2 estro terrans is, really is considered by every progamer in korea as top 5 terran in the world


I know you have a lot of estro bias Dan, but... seriously??

Edit - Not trying to doubt you or take away anything from Really, he's actually been one of my favorite's to watch recently, but I just find that really hard to believe (no pun intended).

protip:
when people who know something about gaming have opinions, and yours differ from theirs, you should reevaluate your opinions before questioning theirs.


Hey Greg,

No shit. Was it that hard to figure out I was looking for him to elaborate (which he immediately did)? buthnxforyourprotipthoughgreatlyappreciatedkk.

you say he has estro bias
"seriously??"
"i just find that really hard to believe"
ya you werent questioning him at all.

if you wanted him to elaborate you would say "well thats interesting could you explain why you think that?" not "well i find that hard to believe and you're biased"


Yes, because you're the example we all turn to when asking for things in a straight forward and polite manner.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 30 2009 08:41 GMT
#40
so implying someone is biased and that what theyre saying isnt right is polite?
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