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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On December 29 2009 09:47 wadadde wrote: you're not a big reader are you..? Being on the New York Times bestseller list doesn't mean that you've been succesful as a writer. It means that you're succesful as a buisinessman/woman. Or that you're already famous or writing about someone who's famous.. I'm extremely off-topic here, but I just hate that cynisism enshrined in common sense. You are probably right but that doesn't change much | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On December 29 2009 06:55 Rekrul wrote: i was never talking about myself ever, koreans treat me EXTREMELY well...i am fluent in their language and understand their culture...ive never met a korean who didn't like me i think lol. the part about being treated differently due to weight was merely i feel a slight difference than before, but its still totally fine this post was only directed at progaming teams and ur avg sc nerd dreaming to join one i was not knocking on koreans at all as all cultures in the world have their ups and downs. fair enough but that still does not merit you saying stuff like: "Koreans are fucking xenophobic as fuck. They are not happy go lucky to foreigners at all (unless they speak korean or are drinking with them lol!). Koreans are also superficial as hell. They are probably the most judgemental culture I've ever seen. They care about the way you look. They care about the way you carry yourself." u should strive to be more responsible (or just be more specific) with your word choice if you want to rag on the situation, do so but dont make offensive, blanket statements about koreans while doing so | ||
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errol1001
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On December 29 2009 09:06 TeWy wrote: Koreans are nationalists and proud of their country, they haven't forgotten their periods of colonisation and war. They're not specifically "racist", but uneducated and xenophobic. They believe in the purity of their blood and the racial discrimination is not mentionned in their legislation. The protection of their foreign workers is close to unexistant, not to mention that you have to look like a corean to do your military service, there is a specific racist law. Thanks for calling Koreans uneducated. Xenophobic, well keep in mind China has been a threat to annex them for over a thousand years. A complete open doors policy to China would have been a great idea; ask how the Tibetans like the current wave of chinese immigrants. --- And I think idra winning foreigner competitions and his promises to buy dinner for his teammates won him some solidarity within the CJ B team. | ||
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FirstProbe
1206 Posts
I know this isn't the point that many of you are trying to argue, but if you think that being a doctor is easy, then you lack perspective. What a doctor does actually makes a difference in the world. That responsibility alone is more than most individuals are able to cope with. If Starcraft pro-gaming were to disappear, it wouldn't change my life even one iota. It's not just effort. It's the ability to coherently integrate years of knowledge and experience into a working diagnosis. The ability to cope under pressure and to deal with suffering, failure and ethics. Interacting with a patient is FAR more complex than many of you will appreciate, and it takes place in a dynamic almost none of you will be privileged to understand. The diminishing respect for doctors is disappointing, and is somewhat paralleled by a similar appreciation for the work of the police. It's driven by a trend of ego-centric self imbued sense of right and worth, and is driven by a lack of empathy and values. I understand that becoming a top-tier pro-gamer is similar to reaching the pinnacle in any sport. However I doubt the sacrifice a person makes as doctor should ever be comparable to former. [on-topic] Give up Ret. I don't know (you or) what you hope to achieve, but I doubt you'll have much success in Korea with Brood War. A matter of too little, too late, and wrong place. You see that now. Not that I wanted to see you fail; I'd have loved to see you on television... but I think there's nothing for you to realistically gain. | ||
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mOnion
United States5653 Posts
everone seems to agree with your bandwagoning post, but i cant find it again to quote it and im not gonna search, but here's your problem. 3 elements to providing a firm opinion/argument, yours being that estro sucks etc etc ethos pathos logos one being more important than the other two depending on the crowd (women, internet nerds, etc) so in this case, Rekrul has an infinitely more established ethos than you do, hence the discussion and non closed thread. you see? being cool is important. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
Good luck ret on whatever you choooses to do from your life. Next courage is yours. you better do it or get back and wait for sc2. | ||
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mOnion
United States5653 Posts
but i do appreciate one persons insight on korean gaming. though it is an incredibly biased one, i'd like to get a girl's take on it (someone positive who enjoys skittles and pink drinks) and see where the two opinion overlap. nevergg? lil susie? pretty prease? | ||
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MageKirby
United States535 Posts
On December 29 2009 11:01 phosphorylation wrote: fair enough but that still does not merit you saying stuff like: "Koreans are fucking xenophobic as fuck. They are not happy go lucky to foreigners at all (unless they speak korean or are drinking with them lol!). Koreans are also superficial as hell. They are probably the most judgemental culture I've ever seen. They care about the way you look. They care about the way you carry yourself." u should strive to be more responsible (or just be more specific) with your word choice if you want to rag on the situation, do so but dont make offensive, blanket statements about koreans while doing so But its true. And he wasn't talking all formal then went and suddenly made offenses at just the korean style of thinking. He was like that throughout the post, meaning his choice of diction wasn't really aimed at the koreans style of thinking. But then, its actually normal for koreans to act like that. | ||
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ilistis
United States828 Posts
I think it's time that we just accept that unless were willing to learn a new language and conform to the korean society,we will not make it. Starcraft is one of our favorite pastimes and it should remain like that for the most of us. | ||
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
Oh well, GL ANYWAY. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
I stay my opinion that Ret is his own man. If he has chased his dream this far, he deserves to give himself one more shot at it. However, not to be discouraging, I also agree that there is little to gain from becoming a broodwar progamer at this point. SC2 may change everything, if Blizzard really puts effort into making it global. We'll see. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On December 29 2009 12:04 dukethegold wrote: Out of curiosity, is Idra fluent with Korean? O.o No, I remember when about a month ago Idra tweeted that he was JUST starting to take lessons in korean. I really thing ret should just try one more courage, Artosis seems like a cool guy and he shouldn't mind ret staying for another month. That's what friends are for. | ||
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Rabbet
Canada404 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On December 29 2009 11:09 igotmyown wrote: Thanks for calling Koreans uneducated. Xenophobic, well keep in mind China has been a threat to annex them for over a thousand years. A complete open doors policy to China would have been a great idea; ask how the Tibetans like the current wave of chinese immigrants. --- And I think idra winning foreigner competitions and his promises to buy dinner for his teammates won him some solidarity within the CJ B team. Not a threat to annex them, Korea was actually a tribute nation to China for a good amount of time as well as constantly the rope where China and Japan played tug of war with for a good two hundred years. And of course now, it's a song and dance between the US and China. I don't envy Korea's state right now nor blame their mindset. | ||
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Green[MB]
Canada2 Posts
and somethings the topic poster has said are quite true just from what ive seen koreans only stick to there own people, however they are polite nice people and i'm sure if ret gets better they wont shun him. good luck ret | ||
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HonestTea
5007 Posts
Rek is obviously Jake Sully. and us Koreans are 3 foot tall blue cat people with yellow eyes. and I suppose artosis is the other human who operated avatars, the nerdy guy. and ret would be the 24 year old zerg who didn't play zvz | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On December 29 2009 11:01 phosphorylation wrote: fair enough but that still does not merit you saying stuff like: "Koreans are fucking xenophobic as fuck. They are not happy go lucky to foreigners at all (unless they speak korean or are drinking with them lol!). Koreans are also superficial as hell. They are probably the most judgemental culture I've ever seen. They care about the way you look. They care about the way you carry yourself." u should strive to be more responsible (or just be more specific) with your word choice if you want to rag on the situation, do so but dont make offensive, blanket statements about koreans while doing so "but dont make offensive, blanket statements about koreans while doing so" do you honestly believe that there are people on this forum that are going to take his statement as pure fact? stop assuming that no one can use their fucking brains god i hate so much of this politically correct bullshit that assumes the lowest common denominator | ||
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
I think Ret and even Idra should just give it up and move on to do something better with their lives. Best of luck nonetheless. | ||
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