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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
January 11 2010 06:03 GMT
#1441
you guys got reps of those two games? I'd love to see them. Viper is one of our strongest players, if only he'd show up on time for matches -_-
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
SuperKiller
Profile Joined December 2004
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 06:39:55
January 11 2010 06:35 GMT
#1442
On January 11 2010 11:26 TheAntZ wrote:
Viperskwa > TheAntZ delayed match for cloud.9 chief badasses
and gk_ender > hugtrees for the fourth match

GG guys, nice matches


whaaaaa??

I am dissapoint



you know we're going to have to fix this
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
January 11 2010 06:44 GMT
#1443
I don't see why "cheesing" is regarded so badly. If it was so bad and against the spirit of CPL, why not just ban it? Ban all cheese. Oh right, because its impossible to define what is actually cheese and what is just aggressive play, and making rules like that basically eviscerates the essence of StaCraft.

Instead, maybe just learn to defend another D/D+ player "cheesing" you
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 11 2010 18:43 GMT
#1444
On January 11 2010 15:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
I don't see why "cheesing" is regarded so badly. If it was so bad and against the spirit of CPL, why not just ban it? Ban all cheese. Oh right, because its impossible to define what is actually cheese and what is just aggressive play, and making rules like that basically eviscerates the essence of StaCraft.

Instead, maybe just learn to defend another D/D+ player "cheesing" you


QFT. I had one of my players practice a cheese for eval match, ended up failing and he still won the game... he successfully defended a ling allin the first real week in his game. It's not like these things take no skill =p
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 18:54:20
January 11 2010 18:51 GMT
#1445
On January 11 2010 15:03 Skyze wrote:
you guys got reps of those two games? I'd love to see them. Viper is one of our strongest players, if only he'd show up on time for matches -_-

you'll be pretty disappointed with our match, i told viper my entire strategy before game by accident (forgot hes in friendlist) and when i went into game i had no idea what to do so if floundered. I'm sure I would have lost anyway, even was i putting in my best game. but I would have at least put up a fight before dying, this was just a roflstomp
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 11 2010 18:55 GMT
#1446
On January 12 2010 03:51 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 15:03 Skyze wrote:
you guys got reps of those two games? I'd love to see them. Viper is one of our strongest players, if only he'd show up on time for matches -_-

you'll be pretty disappointed with our match, i told viper my entire strategy before game by accident (forgot hes in friendlist) and when i went into game i had no idea what to do so if floundered. I'm sure I would have lost anyway, even was i putting in my best game. but I would have at least put up a fight before dying, this was just a roflstomp


LOL. oh god... just... lmao nice one there. <_<
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 11 2010 18:57 GMT
#1447
Let me point out that I have absolutely no issue with cheese per se. I just don't think that spending your time fine tuning an all-in cheese build is a very effective way for a low level player to become better at the game.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 19:00:52
January 11 2010 19:00 GMT
#1448
On January 12 2010 03:57 Holgerius wrote:
Let me point out that I have absolutely no issue with cheese per se. I just don't think that spending your time fine tuning an all-in cheese build is a very effective way for a low level player to become better at the game.


Why not? If you can cheese and win well at a high level, you are just as much a legitimate player. It's not like anyone could just cheese a progamer... There are progamers who allin more than others too. Obviously you need to know how to play standard sometimes as well, but I don't think anyone is practicing 100% cheese for every week.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 11 2010 19:07 GMT
#1449
Because D level players generally have a lot of major and basic flaws in their game that would probably be corrected a lot more effectively by utilizing more standardized strategies. At least that's my view on the matter.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
January 11 2010 19:09 GMT
#1450
On January 12 2010 03:57 Holgerius wrote:
Let me point out that I have absolutely no issue with cheese per se. I just don't think that spending your time fine tuning an all-in cheese build is a very effective way for a low level player to become better at the game.

if you're saying getting better at cheese is not getting better at this game, you are saying that cheese is not a part of this game. Its the same as saying someone who focuses on making their micro really really good instead of focusing on macro is not learning right. It may not be the important thing, but a player HAS to know how to all-in and cheese, not just to keep a variation in his play, but because knowing how to cheese and all-in dramatically increases your understanding of how it works, and thus your ability to stop it.
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
January 11 2010 19:19 GMT
#1451
On January 12 2010 04:09 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 03:57 Holgerius wrote:
Let me point out that I have absolutely no issue with cheese per se. I just don't think that spending your time fine tuning an all-in cheese build is a very effective way for a low level player to become better at the game.

if you're saying getting better at cheese is not getting better at this game, you are saying that cheese is not a part of this game. Its the same as saying someone who focuses on making their micro really really good instead of focusing on macro is not learning right. It may not be the important thing, but a player HAS to know how to all-in and cheese, not just to keep a variation in his play, but because knowing how to cheese and all-in dramatically increases your understanding of how it works, and thus your ability to stop it.

QFT...

I always had troubles with terran all-ins (sending marines nonstop from proxy rax, without any transition) and until i started doing it myself (even when it is not my main race) I started seeing the main flaws of those kind of attacks and just simply exploit them as a protoss.
I won
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 21:16:59
January 11 2010 21:14 GMT
#1452
Building masses of zerglings is pretty normal in ZvZ... so what's this I hear about a cheese?

I mean, when it comes right down to it ZvZ is just like two players cheesing eachother.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 11 2010 21:51 GMT
#1453
what are maps for this week, same as last week?
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
January 11 2010 21:58 GMT
#1454
On January 12 2010 06:51 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what are maps for this week, same as last week?

Same maps, but they are in this order (which is a different order than last week).

Match Point
Outsider
Heartbreak Ridge
Fighting Spirit
Destination
^_^V
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 00:22:25
January 12 2010 00:16 GMT
#1455
1-11-10 UPDATE: Sorry for the late update, the results are now up. Please submit lineup by 11PM EST Tomorrow, thanks! (about 28 hours from now) The Standings have been updated. Remember that I made the [url blocked] versions of the newest versions of the CPL maps so please use these maps instead of lifting in melee.

Need replays:

Games
Tree.Hugger vs gk_ender
Necosarius vs Chrispy

Matches
Chickens & Waffles vs Made in Korea (link was broken, reupload please)
Midnight vs Pokecraft
EAT MORE CAKE vs Victorious Secret

Week 2 Matchups:

Group 1
T1 MagicN's vs Cloud.9
Midnight vs Jessica SNSD
Walk It Out vs PokeCraft
The Chief Badasses vs Team Rocket

Group 2
Boyz II Men vs Victorious Secret
EAT MORE CAKE vs ZerO to by.hero
Chicken & Waffles vs Ninja Explosion
Made in Korea vs The Prodigies

Map Order:
Match Point
Outsider
Heartbreak Ridge
Fighting Spirit
Destination
Writer
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
January 12 2010 00:31 GMT
#1456
I'm just waiting on deathgod and NR to send their replays to me so I can send them to you 10.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
January 12 2010 00:44 GMT
#1457
Great work 10. Successful round 1. Oh yeah and Magic... we will crush.
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 12 2010 00:47 GMT
#1458
wow we're 7th in the B Division. D=
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
January 12 2010 01:06 GMT
#1459
My game vs Chrispy is a w.o, Chrispy never showed up.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 06:25:58
January 12 2010 06:25 GMT
#1460
Cloud.9 FIIIIGHTING!
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
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