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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG
You couldn't stop it. Aren't you supposed to get better at stopping cheesy strats as part of improving?
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On January 10 2010 07:15 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG You couldn't stop it. Aren't you supposed to get better at stopping cheesy strats as part of improving?
In a zvz on a 4player map, it's best to play standard because of the possibility of opposite corners, I could have been cheesing just as easily as him. Therefore, it's commonly accepted that people will play the safest on those maps.
He flipped a coin and won, it's not about stopping it.
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
Most of the games are done, coaches please gather the replays and send them in, thanks!
I have to run somewhere, I'll be back in a few hours.
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EAT MORE CAKE vs Victorious Secret
deathgod6(T) < Destination > numLock(P)
Card5harko6(P) < Match Point > AltaiR_(P)
NR(P) < Outsider > sixduck(Z)
Qikz(T) < Heartbreak Ridge > Shiladie(Z)
1-3 Victorious Secret fighting!
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Canada780 Posts
On January 10 2010 07:21 l10f wrote:
Most of the games are done, coaches please gather the replays and send them in, thanks!
I have to run somewhere, I'll be back in a few hours.
I am out of the house right now, I will be able to send it to Lz when I get home later tonight.
Hope thats not too much trouble.
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i agree with aware, the most important parts of starcraft are management and solid build orders. Cheesing like that on a 4 player map has no place this league.
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On January 10 2010 07:17 AwarE-- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2010 07:15 Roffles wrote:On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG You couldn't stop it. Aren't you supposed to get better at stopping cheesy strats as part of improving? In a zvz on a 4player map, it's best to play standard because of the possibility of opposite corners, I could have been cheesing just as easily as him. Therefore, it's commonly accepted that people will play the safest on those maps. He flipped a coin and won, it's not about stopping it.
somebody call ![[image loading]](http://www.thewambulance.com/images/wambulance_logo.jpg)
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On January 10 2010 07:32 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2010 07:17 AwarE-- wrote:On January 10 2010 07:15 Roffles wrote:On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG You couldn't stop it. Aren't you supposed to get better at stopping cheesy strats as part of improving? In a zvz on a 4player map, it's best to play standard because of the possibility of opposite corners, I could have been cheesing just as easily as him. Therefore, it's commonly accepted that people will play the safest on those maps. He flipped a coin and won, it's not about stopping it. somebody call
LOL
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rofl.
yea I know I'm whining, I just had higher expectations I guess.
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On January 10 2010 07:36 AwarE-- wrote:
rofl.
yea I know I'm whining, I just had higher expectations I guess.
Don't worry. Like a true American, you know that despite your loss you're still the better player, and that's what counts.
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On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG
lol would u like some cheese with ur WHINE
o wait u got some
edit: SICK BURN
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I think it's funny their D player played me straight up but their D+ ace had to cheese. Good times.
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ZerO to by.hero 3-0 The Prodigies
Necosarius - Chrispy - pp
Pifualkd > Gao Xi
JonsaBoy > The_Master - by walkover
eNoq > thesecretaznman
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On January 10 2010 07:39 baller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG lol would u like some cheese with ur WHINE o wait u got some edit: SICK BURN
LOL
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On January 10 2010 07:39 baller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2010 07:00 AwarE-- wrote:I'm just going to point out this is a league to get better, not win against other d players at any means necessary. Going 9hatch9pool9gas zvt into 2hatch lurker and then proceeding to do the same opening zvz on a four player map is not getting better, or attempting to learn. It's trying to win at any means necessary which is completely worthless. GG lol would u like some cheese with ur WHINE o wait u got some edit: SICK BURN
11/10
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United Kingdom12043 Posts
Anyone watching Raptors Stream between my game and ladie. I don't honestly know what happened. It was as if I got my vessel even though really late then just sat there. It was almost like I did nothing. Although I did drop his main right at the end and killed his lisk cavern. :>
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Aware has got a point IMO; I have a hard time understanding why one would cheese in CPL. When progamers cheese in important tournaments I'm completely fine with that. Winning games is their job and there's plenty of money involved in it. This, however, is a tournament that is about improving as a SC player in a friendly, fun and still sort of competetive enviroment. I really doubt you improve very much by doing all-in builds that wins just because the opponent (me :D) is a fucking noob and fails to realize what is going on despite scouting it (I had never played against the build in my entire life). 
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Playing cheese builds frequently lets the cheesing player work on multitasking in ways they otherwise never would. For example, my pvt macro and micro improved immeasurably when I went through a stint of going 10/15 gate in every pvt for about 2 months straight.
edit : The complainers might have a point if he had done a 4 pool, but a 9 hatch 9 pool 2 hatch lurker that was apparently scouted is probably more difficult to execute than to stop. Granted, the majority of the difficulty is denying scouting in a lot of builds like this, but it still requires a pretty good sense of timing. I'm highly curious to see the replay if the guy truly pulled it off in a zvz - that takes balls haha.
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