• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:18
CET 11:18
KST 19:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains3Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series14BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20
StarCraft 2
General
GSL CK - New online series Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 22
Tourneys
IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2303 users

[Map] Northern Cross

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-10 16:03:16
September 08 2009 19:35 GMT
#1
Northern Cross 1.4

[image loading]


Changes:
- Made top right/btm left mains slightly bigger
- Shifted mineral-only placement for better main space management

+ Show Spoiler [Version 1.3] +
Northern Cross 1.3

[image loading]


Changes:
- Fixed top right/btm left gas bug (cannot build)
- Slightly changed 4 o'clock starting mineral/gas layout

+ Show Spoiler [Version 1.2] +
Northern Cross 1.2

[image loading]


Changes:
- Made mid smaller
- Made mineral-nat bigger
- Removed temples at mid
- Changed unbuildable terrain color at mid

+ Show Spoiler [Version 1.1] +
Northern Cross 1.1

[image loading]


Changes:
- Added more space at mineral-only nat for buildings

+ Show Spoiler [Version 1.0] +
Northern Cross 1.0
[image loading]


Details:
Map Size: 128 x 128
Terrain: Jungle
Players: 4

Concept:
- A small-main 4 player map that will feature lots of outer battles, possibly similar to Outsider but more frequent
- Similar to Return of the King, but mineral-only nat is on high ground, making contains less deadly and easy to defend

Features:
- Small main
- All gas nats are around the outside of the map
- Destroyable Psi Disruptors that can open up another route to high ground in middle of map
- 15 stacked Psi Disruptors that can be destroyed that mine from another geyser at the corner expansions
- 1000 gas at your side of the mineral wall, 3000 on the other side
- Almost the entire center of map (high ground) is unbuildable
- 8 stacked minerals (shown as 4 on picture) at mineral-only expansion
- Main can be wallable from outside with just 1 rax (but unable to mine from mineral-only expo)

Resources:
Main - 8M1G (1500 minerals, 5000 gas)
Mineral-only nat - 8M (749 minerals)(4 patches stacked twice)
Mineral-wall expos - 8M2G (749 minerals, 1 patch worth 499)(geyser closer to main worth 1000 gas, geyser on opposite side worth 3000 gas)
Corner expos - 9M2G (1500 minerals, 3000 gas)(15 stacked Psi Disruptors must be destroyed to mine from one of the geysers)

Maker's woes:
- Finding it a problem for rallying lots of units to center of map from the outside. Widening main-to-outside ramp may screw up balance.
- Main is a bit too small

Download links:
Version 1.0
Version 1.1
Version 1.2
Version 1.3
Version 1.4
POGGERS
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 08 2009 19:42 GMT
#2
This map is very interesting, little bit of an outsider effect. Looks a bit awkward idk (with the low gorund)

bottom rights base, gas is close to the inside, any ranged unit could kill that imo.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
September 08 2009 19:43 GMT
#3
Nice concept but I wouldn't know where to put my stuff lol.
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
September 08 2009 19:45 GMT
#4
Yeah my first thought was "wow the mains are so small". This may make it slightly zerg-favored (?) since they need less space for buildings.
Retired SchiSm[LighT]
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 08 2009 19:46 GMT
#5
On September 09 2009 04:43 alexpnd wrote:
Nice concept but I wouldn't know where to put my stuff lol.

yeah that's the problem i'm kinda facing atm, thinking of widening the mineral-only nat area so that there'll be more space to build
POGGERS
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
September 08 2009 19:54 GMT
#6
Building placement would be similar to Plasma, right? You'd have to build down ramps. Either on those inside low-ground pockets or on the outside low-ground ring.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 08 2009 19:56 GMT
#7
Okay slightly widened the nat area
POGGERS
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 08 2009 20:04 GMT
#8
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 20:06:45
September 08 2009 20:06 GMT
#9
On September 09 2009 05:04 StorrZerg wrote:
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.

what 4-ish/5-ish?

1st gas - main
2nd gas - near mineral wall (or corner expo)
3rd gas - corner expo (or near mineral wall)
4th gas - other mineral wal gas
5th gas - destroy 15 buildings or expand elsewhere

or you mean, as in, it may cause imbalance or smth?
POGGERS
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
September 08 2009 20:07 GMT
#10
Very sexy concept but the mains needs to be bigger, i refuse to build outside
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 08 2009 20:10 GMT
#11
Maybe mid is a tad too large :p
POGGERS
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
September 08 2009 20:13 GMT
#12
It could be cool if u rewerted it. So the main base is on low ground and nat is on high, simmilar to Byzantium.
I pwn noobs
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
September 08 2009 20:20 GMT
#13
Great concept. Might have a bit more trouble PvT than in outsider since the Terran can grab 3 easy bases, then a fourth if they defend it properly. The distances between the Protoss and Terran is short too since a 200/200 Terran could probably shoot down the psi disrupters pretty quickly.
Middle is fine imo. Maybe a bit too tight.
This is great, improve deco a bit though. I'll try to think of more comments to help improve this.
404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
September 08 2009 20:40 GMT
#14
On September 09 2009 05:20 neobowman wrote:
Great concept. Might have a bit more trouble PvT than in outsider since the Terran can grab 3 easy bases, then a fourth if they defend it properly. The distances between the Protoss and Terran is short too since a 200/200 Terran could probably shoot down the psi disrupters pretty quickly.
Middle is fine imo. Maybe a bit too tight.
This is great, improve deco a bit though. I'll try to think of more comments to help improve this.


I thought that too, but then looking over it, fast carriers look incredibly powerful.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 08 2009 20:57 GMT
#15
On September 09 2009 05:06 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2009 05:04 StorrZerg wrote:
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.

what 4-ish/5-ish?

I think StorrZerg is talking about the gas at the bottom-right main; it's much closer to the inside of the map than the other mains' gases (might be siege-able from the cliffs to the north of it).
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
September 08 2009 20:57 GMT
#16
What are you, a zerg player? I'd never ever play this map as terran. Every single "feature" is balanced against terran in one or more matchups.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
September 08 2009 20:59 GMT
#17
On September 09 2009 05:57 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2009 05:06 konadora wrote:
On September 09 2009 05:04 StorrZerg wrote:
What about 4ish/5ish gas?

i think that could be a problem.

what 4-ish/5-ish?

I think StorrZerg is talking about the gas at the bottom-right main; it's much closer to the inside of the map than the other mains' gases (might be siege-able from the cliffs to the north of it).

oh.. hmm but then, I'll have to place at some other position which will cause mining inefficiency as compared to other 3 positions

updated to 1.2 btw
POGGERS
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 08 2009 21:07 GMT
#18
Shit kona, you produce a map I actually find mildly interesting! :o (dw, I'm a huge sceptic) Play some games when I wake up?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-08 21:31:19
September 08 2009 21:08 GMT
#19
what time will you wake up?

(in KST)

pm me @ konata.izumi on iccup for game
POGGERS
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 08 2009 22:35 GMT
#20
16:00 ish?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
10:00
GSL CK - Day 1
CranKy Ducklings SOOP55
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech105
herO (Afreeca) 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18747
Horang2 5936
Hyuk 1664
Jaedong 938
Flash 888
actioN 369
Shuttle 317
Mini 190
Rush 177
Mong 167
[ Show more ]
ZerO 158
Hyun 125
Pusan 122
EffOrt 115
JYJ 114
Leta 106
Soma 97
Killer 92
Light 90
ToSsGirL 54
Barracks 47
Mind 45
Last 45
Sharp 44
Backho 35
sSak 27
Nal_rA 25
yabsab 24
NotJumperer 20
soO 12
sorry 12
GoRush 11
SilentControl 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 423
XcaliburYe70
febbydoto10
canceldota8
League of Legends
KnowMe71
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1578
shoxiejesuss814
m0e_tv419
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King97
Other Games
ceh9580
Fuzer 223
Pyrionflax145
crisheroes129
ToD117
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10138
Other Games
gamesdonequick988
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH269
• LUISG 35
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1914
• Lourlo1404
• Stunt555
• HappyZerGling129
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
1h 42m
The PondCast
23h 42m
WardiTV Team League
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.