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eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 16:02:28
August 23 2009 16:02 GMT
#61
Jaedong can stay in Oz, but Oz should pickup a decent player :E
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 23 2009 16:33 GMT
#62
On August 23 2009 23:56 rotinegg wrote:
This is just what me thinks, but here's what I think is the reason to Coach CHo's douchebaggery:
Because of the new stupid FA rules, if a team wants to take a player away from another team, they either have to pay 200% of their suggested salary from his original team, PLUS his new salary, or 100% of their suggested salary and give up a player to that team (they can sanction 6, and then the other team can pick any player except those 6) PLUS his new salary. That means in order to take Jaedong, a team must pay either 2*140M + 200M or 140M + 200M + player, which comes out to 340M and a player or 480M in pure money. No team in the right mind would be paying that. It is jaedong, but in such a volatile scene where bonjwas come and go so quickly, it would be crazy to shell out nada's 3 years worth of salary to get 1 player for a year. So it will probably go to renegotiations with coach Cho aka douchebag, and Jaedong will be forced to take the crappy deal, albeit being the greatest player in the starcraft scene today. Coach Cho offered 140M, which is just enough to make the cost of Jaedong too high for other teams to take, and knowing that Jaedong wanted to stay on the team, he is using that to pay Jaedong the minimal amount of money. DOUCHEBAG i am so mad

edit: I decided to include players receiving around Jaedong's range just for reference, so you can see why I am so mad.
Bisu: estimated 250M+ fantasy: estimated 200M+ flash: estimated 200M+ Calm: 130M Nada: 110M Kal: 100M Hwasin: 100M


Jaedong's parents have the right reaction -- it's an insult for the arguably best player in the scene to be making so little compared to the other players. Especially considering how overworked he is compared to other top players, and he still puts up the good results.

Jaedong just wants to be happy which is a good outlook (and I'm sure it contributes to his success as well), but he is being "cheated" and I'm glad his parents are sticking up for him.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
August 23 2009 16:41 GMT
#63
Oh, this interview puts his free agency into a whole new perspective, i thought it was him declaring himself as one in the first place.
I guess he will just get a payrise and stay in Oz.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
August 23 2009 16:47 GMT
#64
Normally I wouldn't approve of parent's going against the will of their son like this but you also have to bear in mind the east asian culture when talking about this. It's possible that Jaedong isn't as thanksful and wanting to stay in his team as he says. Giving respect to an older person or ones coachs etc is expected in all of east asia.

Think about it. If Jaedong really wanted to leave and felt his time was done in OZ then what would he say? He wouldn't go out into the media saying he's tired of his team and time to move on etc etc. He'd say just what he is saying now and then he would keep his honor towards the team.

It's of course more likely that he wants to stay with his friends are the ones who heleped him grow as a player but lets not rule out anything. I doubt he is happy about his parents being made to look like heartless moneygrubbing bastards though.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 16:55:31
August 23 2009 16:53 GMT
#65
Why can't jaedong (at least his mom) deny all offers and finally turn to be semi-pro (without any team). After that he is free to sign contract whichever team he wants without huge salary bonuses to Hwaseung Oz?

Then other teams might offer 200M without 200% salary.

Its not like Jaedong would not be picked up by some team.
VictorW
Profile Joined May 2009
United States157 Posts
August 23 2009 17:45 GMT
#66
I don't see how Oz wouldn't be willing to pay Jaedong at least 200M won. You figure they'd lose more money than that if he left the team. But I guess they figure they can lowball him and still keep him.

On August 23 2009 15:19 NeverGG wrote:
'I don't want to lose the happiness that comes from being with the people you love.'

Urge to make Homo for Lomo joke rising. This is an interesting dilemma really. I hope Jaedong comes out of the whole FA situation happily and that he can continue to play in the way he wants to.


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Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 23 2009 18:24 GMT
#67
On August 24 2009 01:02 eNoq wrote:
Jaedong can stay in Oz, but Oz should pickup a decent player :E


Which they cant and wont.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
August 23 2009 18:44 GMT
#68
soooo i wonder who is going to put the money up for jaedong
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
August 23 2009 18:52 GMT
#69
I felt really bad for Jaedong when I was watching this:
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His mom is doing the right thing. It is his career, he needs to go where he will get paid what he's worth and have the best chance of success. I honestly think Jaedong would have won the osl, msl and the proleague if he had been on any of the other teams that made the proleague playoffs.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51397 Posts
August 23 2009 21:22 GMT
#70
On August 24 2009 01:53 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Why can't jaedong (at least his mom) deny all offers and finally turn to be semi-pro (without any team). After that he is free to sign contract whichever team he wants without huge salary bonuses to Hwaseung Oz?

Then other teams might offer 200M without 200% salary.

Its not like Jaedong would not be picked up by some team.


Because you are pretty much unable to compete in any leagues if you are classed as 'semi-pro' until the next FA period next year.
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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
August 23 2009 21:28 GMT
#71
On August 24 2009 03:52 mucker wrote:
I felt really bad for Jaedong when I was watching this:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDh70KGzBY#t=3m49s


His mom is doing the right thing. It is his career, he needs to go where he will get paid what he's worth and have the best chance of success. I honestly think Jaedong would have won the osl, msl and the proleague if he had been on any of the other teams that made the proleague playoffs.



WTF send JD to hite... he would be much happier XD
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Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
August 23 2009 21:46 GMT
#72
So if a team pays say 180 000 000 won for jaedong.


They would have to pay 200% of the current 90 000 000 Won salary to Oz?
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 23 2009 21:49 GMT
#73
On August 24 2009 06:46 Tien wrote:
So if a team pays say 180 000 000 won for jaedong.


They would have to pay 200% of the current 90 000 000 Won salary to Oz?


I thought his current salary was 140 000 000 ?
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7212 Posts
August 23 2009 22:00 GMT
#74
The 140M figure I believe is the new offer, it would be even more insulting if Oz didn't offer Jaedong some sort of pay raise which means his original salary was less than 140M.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 23 2009 22:03 GMT
#75
Original salary was 60M.
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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
August 23 2009 22:12 GMT
#76
I hope he get's his parents convinced so that he can stay with Oz, but somehow still get a reasonable payrise.. can't really imagine him anywhere else.
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xbarisg
Profile Joined June 2009
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 22:22:25
August 23 2009 22:21 GMT
#77
probably a newbie question but how do teams generate revenue? does proleague or individual league success translate to more $$ for the successful teams?
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 22:29:20
August 23 2009 22:24 GMT
#78
On August 24 2009 07:03 nonduc wrote:
Original salary was 60M.

Hmm, I thought I read 70M in this thread before. Oh well, doesn't make that much of a difference either way. Must have been a 2+ year contract from when he was good in PL, but way less of a monster than he is now.

On August 24 2009 07:21 xbarisg wrote:
probably a newbie question but how do teams generate revenue? does proleague or individual league success translate to more $$ for the successful teams?

PL title gives a fair amount of money (not sure about this year, but the last few years it was 80M), but that's only for the team winning it all.
In the most of the money simply comes in form of sponsorship by the companies owning the teams.
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jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
August 23 2009 22:48 GMT
#79
I've been a fan of oz but these negotations with JD completely turned me off to oz. Oz realizes there are only a few teams that have the resources to pay for JD with the terrible free agent signing rules and those few teams that have that kinda cash dont have as much a need for JD as other teams. Now i do believe Coach Cho has limited control over these negotiations since Hwaseung is paying and they have complete control over what goes on so i wouldnt call him a douchebag. I hope this is the case or its just so wrong. Oz would be nothing without JD and hes obviously the best players in pro sc atm and he deserves to be paid like one.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 23 2009 22:48 GMT
#80
Jaedong should earn base salary 200M+ won. Period. Anything less is a pure disgrace. Transfer to another team if you have to, OZ shouldn't be running a pro-league team if they can't shell out 200M won for the best player.
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