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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 23 2009 07:31 GMT
#21
First of all, Jaedong needs to talk to other players first to know what happens when you switch teams. Right now, I feel like Jaedong's just this kid who doesn't know the world, and is simply afraid of leaving a comfortable situation that he's familiar with.

But the reality is, just because he's comfortable doesn't mean it's the best situation. And he really should at least try to explore other options. Especially if it means more $$$.
Meh
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 23 2009 07:39 GMT
#22
On August 23 2009 16:31 baubo wrote:
First of all, Jaedong needs to talk to other players first to know what happens when you switch teams. Right now, I feel like Jaedong's just this kid who doesn't know the world, and is simply afraid of leaving a comfortable situation that he's familiar with.

But the reality is, just because he's comfortable doesn't mean it's the best situation. And he really should at least try to explore other options. Especially if it means more $$$.


Well can you put a price on friendship and happiness?

I guess I'm still a kid at heart, but how much is money worth over happiness? I'll admit though it might not be that bad, he can still make new friends on other teams and see his Oz buddies. Though he'll probably feel like he is letting his team down.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 07:41:34
August 23 2009 07:41 GMT
#23
OZ should really give the kid more money... he should be at least close to the highest paid progamer.... but he's not even close.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 23 2009 07:47 GMT
#24
110,000$ is very disrespectful for the best current player! :/
And it was not made not just one attempt to strengthen team. :/
Disgrace to Hwaseung! :/
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 23 2009 07:47 GMT
#25
On August 23 2009 16:39 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 16:31 baubo wrote:
First of all, Jaedong needs to talk to other players first to know what happens when you switch teams. Right now, I feel like Jaedong's just this kid who doesn't know the world, and is simply afraid of leaving a comfortable situation that he's familiar with.

But the reality is, just because he's comfortable doesn't mean it's the best situation. And he really should at least try to explore other options. Especially if it means more $$$.


Well can you put a price on friendship and happiness?

I guess I'm still a kid at heart, but how much is money worth over happiness? I'll admit though it might not be that bad, he can still make new friends on other teams and see his Oz buddies. Though he'll probably feel like he is letting his team down.


Just because he's leaving Oz doesn't mean he'll be unhappy. You go to another team. You make new friends. You learn new strategies from new coaches. None of those are automatically bad things.

Change isn't always a bad thing.
Meh
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
August 23 2009 07:59 GMT
#26
On August 23 2009 16:39 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 16:31 baubo wrote:
First of all, Jaedong needs to talk to other players first to know what happens when you switch teams. Right now, I feel like Jaedong's just this kid who doesn't know the world, and is simply afraid of leaving a comfortable situation that he's familiar with.

But the reality is, just because he's comfortable doesn't mean it's the best situation. And he really should at least try to explore other options. Especially if it means more $$$.


Well can you put a price on friendship and happiness?

I guess I'm still a kid at heart, but how much is money worth over happiness? I'll admit though it might not be that bad, he can still make new friends on other teams and see his Oz buddies. Though he'll probably feel like he is letting his team down.


Well for him it´s a job and not a hobby so he should go there where he earns most, friends won´t feed you in the future, only money does...
It´s childish to say "Mumy i wanna stay with my friends and hug instead of earning money"
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
August 23 2009 08:01 GMT
#27
KT buy Jaedong and crush his dreams :D. Haha. Jk I wouldnt mind him staying at Oz
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
August 23 2009 08:13 GMT
#28
On August 23 2009 16:22 nayumi wrote:
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On August 23 2009 16:19 iamho wrote:
is 18 not the age for adulthood in korea or something? this is ridiculous

I think it's 21 when you can be legally bound to any kind of contract, correct me if I'm wrong though

someone said iirc 20. Funny though, as you can legally have sex at 13 in south korea
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 23 2009 08:20 GMT
#29
On August 23 2009 16:16 Hinanawi wrote:
Oz needs to at least cough up enough money to match Jaedong's salary to Flash's. Jaedong is extremely underpaid right now.


oz needs to at least cough up money for some decent players imo
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 08:50:12
August 23 2009 08:37 GMT
#30
On August 23 2009 16:59 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 16:39 BlackMagister wrote:
On August 23 2009 16:31 baubo wrote:
First of all, Jaedong needs to talk to other players first to know what happens when you switch teams. Right now, I feel like Jaedong's just this kid who doesn't know the world, and is simply afraid of leaving a comfortable situation that he's familiar with.

But the reality is, just because he's comfortable doesn't mean it's the best situation. And he really should at least try to explore other options. Especially if it means more $$$.


Well can you put a price on friendship and happiness?

I guess I'm still a kid at heart, but how much is money worth over happiness? I'll admit though it might not be that bad, he can still make new friends on other teams and see his Oz buddies. Though he'll probably feel like he is letting his team down.


Well for him it´s a job and not a hobby so he should go there where he earns most, friends won´t feed you in the future, only money does...
It´s childish to say "Mumy i wanna stay with my friends and hug instead of earning money"


Is his pay on Oz that bad or something? It's the age old career debate over dream job or highest paying job, expect with friends.

You know I can I almost imagine this being a movie and the other kids pooling their small amount of money to keep their teammate, expect of course they can't afford to pay to keep him with their money. Though isn't the issue the overwork more than the money?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 08:44:38
August 23 2009 08:41 GMT
#31
On August 23 2009 16:59 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 16:39 BlackMagister wrote:
On August 23 2009 16:31 baubo wrote:
First of all, Jaedong needs to talk to other players first to know what happens when you switch teams. Right now, I feel like Jaedong's just this kid who doesn't know the world, and is simply afraid of leaving a comfortable situation that he's familiar with.

But the reality is, just because he's comfortable doesn't mean it's the best situation. And he really should at least try to explore other options. Especially if it means more $$$.


Well can you put a price on friendship and happiness?

I guess I'm still a kid at heart, but how much is money worth over happiness? I'll admit though it might not be that bad, he can still make new friends on other teams and see his Oz buddies. Though he'll probably feel like he is letting his team down.


Well for him it´s a job and not a hobby so he should go there where he earns most, friends won´t feed you in the future, only money does...
It´s childish to say "Mumy i wanna stay with my friends and hug instead of earning money"


Come on now, I'm sure you know that's just exaggerating towards one extreme to make a point. On the opposite end we have "I'm going to sell my soul for money, giving up what I know has true value for me now in exchange for phantom worth in the future."

Now, the reality of the situation could be anything, we really don't know anything outside what media, rumors, and leaks tell us. And even those have to be taken with a significant grain of salt.

But there's one thing that I think is worth noting. Almost every star pro-gamer, from whatever team or whatever background, when offered a huge contract from a wealthy team, ended up taking the money. I can't speculate as to what that meant about their personal situations, or their situations with their teams, or whatever else there may be to consider. Yellow, Nal_ra, Reach, Gorush, Chojja, Bisu, Nada (though the rumors at the time mentioned various other unsavory factors) all left the teams they had attained glory with. Xellos is the only notable exception I can think of.

If in the end, Jaedong does convince his parents, and stays with OZ, then we know it will be a significant oddity. And of course then, we still won't have enough information to judge him. But it's my personal opinion that in that situation, a situation that goes heavily against the grain, it would be insulting to dismiss Jaedong as childish. You would have to think, maybe, there is something he knows, not just in his mind, but in his heart, that lead him to that decision.


And if your life view is truly so cynical at a base level, then I won't argue the point.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 23 2009 08:45 GMT
#32
Far out, JD is such a good kid, he's so loyal. Dig deeper Oz, go back and dig deeper and fulfill your promise of making JD the highest paid progamer.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
August 23 2009 08:47 GMT
#33
Come to SKT...
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 23 2009 08:53 GMT
#34
I think Jaedong should stay at Oz. He probably needs a higher salary though
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Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 08:59:51
August 23 2009 08:57 GMT
#35
Edit: nevermind, found it.

Hope he stays with Oz. Maybe Oz could find another sponsor.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
August 23 2009 09:38 GMT
#36
On August 23 2009 15:19 SuperArc wrote:
Winning the Golden Mouse sure should help JD with convincing his parents.


You might want to put 'spoilers' next time you spoil something without warning. (especially since it hasn't even been 24 hours yet)

On topic: I'm glad JD wishs to stay on Oz. Perhaps this will encourage Oz to practice harder in the future for their matches so jaedong doesnt have to carry them =O
Radians
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 23 2009 09:46 GMT
#37
That's a really good point that their parents take care of him. Well I'm pretty sure there will be a solution for him and his parents. Hwaseung Jaedong forever.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
August 23 2009 09:46 GMT
#38
On August 23 2009 18:38 leomon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2009 15:19 SuperArc wrote:
Winning the Golden Mouse sure should help JD with convincing his parents.


You might want to put 'spoilers' next time you spoil something without warning. (especially since it hasn't even been 24 hours yet)

On topic: I'm glad JD wishs to stay on Oz. Perhaps this will encourage Oz to practice harder in the future for their matches so jaedong doesnt have to carry them =O


pretty sure you're losing the discretion vs common sense argument in this particular case.
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 23 2009 09:51 GMT
#39
On August 23 2009 15:33 VorcePA wrote:
I hope he goes to SK Tele--


That would be disastrous, T1 would be the last team I'd like to see Jaedong on.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51434 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 10:13:08
August 23 2009 10:01 GMT
#40
okay i just read it was all about teh moniez ($85k p/y)
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