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Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
August 23 2009 10:07 GMT
#41
He needs to stay on Oz, because he is a huge inspirational figure for the team and I think if he left, the rest of Oz would really struggle, even more so than if jaedong just wasn't playing.

Besides, I think its awesomely cute that he would rather stay with good friends, than chase another team.

Also to those saying that he isn't be outgoing enough, Oz is hardly a bad team, its no MBC or wemade Fox.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 23 2009 10:21 GMT
#42
being laughed at by rekrul and others cause i didnt get an ironic post just yesterday

( http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=100384&currentpage=3 )
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 23 2009 10:29 GMT
#43
On August 23 2009 19:21 7mk wrote:
being laughed at by rekrul and others cause i didnt get an ironic post just yesterday

( http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=100384&currentpage=3 )
this is terribly ironic isn't it?


+ Show Spoiler +
i'm assuming this was meant for the most embarrasing TL moment thread
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 10:41:14
August 23 2009 10:38 GMT
#44
On August 23 2009 19:21 7mk wrote:
being laughed at by rekrul and others cause i didnt get an ironic post just yesterday

( http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=100384&currentpage=3 )



This is poetry to me. Well posted.

I have to agree with some of the sentiments that Jaedong may feel extra attached to his team since hes still fresh in his youth and grew up a bit there. But would his happiness differ that much? The make new friends argument is pretty strong but hell. Who knows how drastic it could be, also its pretty unfair to make his parents out to seem like bad people... i mean everyone saw how friggin emo he got after pro league.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 10:55:07
August 23 2009 10:52 GMT
#45
Loooooool yeah it is quite ironic, it was meant for that thread, now I have another thing to add


Anyways, Coach Cho, just give Jaedong more money and everyone is happy...
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 23 2009 13:03 GMT
#46
It's great to see how he feels towards his team mates. Nobody should drag him away from OZ (even though I don't like them ^_^).
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 15:01:08
August 23 2009 14:47 GMT
#47
So after roaming the korean websites, I was able to get the real scoop on the story... In short Coach Cho is an asshole: he declared to the media that if Jaedong stayed he would offer him "the best deal people have yet seen" which turned out to be 140M Won + options which roughly came out to 200M. That is some bullshit because Bisu is estimated to receive ~250M (SKT1 hasn't released their players' salaries) a year (last year it was 200M, compared to Jaedong's 70M). Coach Cho worked Jaedong like a freakin workhorse and only offers him about half of what Bisu is getting paid? Jaedong fucking carried Jaedong OZ to the proleague finals, and brought them so much fame by making it to the semi's of both ind leagues, being a zvz god + Show Spoiler +
AND WINNING THE FUCKING GOLDEN MOUSE
etc. It's not about just the money, a player's salary is also his pride. If I were Jaedong's parents, I would be fucking furious at how Coach Cho said he would offer the best deal ever, and then pay half of what Bisu (arguably equal in skill) gets. The reason why the initial negotiations were broken up was because Jaedong's parents wanted 200M in pure salary plus options, which is not a steep call at all, but that D-bag of a coach didn't offer anything over 140M.
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 15:05:03
August 23 2009 14:56 GMT
#48
This is just what me thinks, but here's what I think is the reason to Coach CHo's douchebaggery:
Because of the new stupid FA rules, if a team wants to take a player away from another team, they either have to pay 200% of their suggested salary from his original team, PLUS his new salary, or 100% of their suggested salary and give up a player to that team (they can sanction 6, and then the other team can pick any player except those 6) PLUS his new salary. That means in order to take Jaedong, a team must pay either 2*140M + 200M or 140M + 200M + player, which comes out to 340M and a player or 480M in pure money. No team in the right mind would be paying that. It is jaedong, but in such a volatile scene where bonjwas come and go so quickly, it would be crazy to shell out nada's 3 years worth of salary to get 1 player for a year. So it will probably go to renegotiations with coach Cho aka douchebag, and Jaedong will be forced to take the crappy deal, albeit being the greatest player in the starcraft scene today. Coach Cho offered 140M, which is just enough to make the cost of Jaedong too high for other teams to take, and knowing that Jaedong wanted to stay on the team, he is using that to pay Jaedong the minimal amount of money. DOUCHEBAG i am so mad

edit: I decided to include players receiving around Jaedong's range just for reference, so you can see why I am so mad.
Bisu: estimated 250M+ fantasy: estimated 200M+ flash: estimated 200M+ Calm: 130M Nada: 110M Kal: 100M Hwasin: 100M
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fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
August 23 2009 15:06 GMT
#49
Well good luck to him!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 23 2009 15:06 GMT
#50
Don't think it's enough to just give Jaedong more money. They should also be obligated to get a decent player on the FA market. Sadly... there isn't any real A-class player out there so it's a shitty situation for them.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 23 2009 15:11 GMT
#51
What makes you think the coach can decide how much money Jaedong gets..., it's not like he runs the company that owns the team :<
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 15:20:58
August 23 2009 15:19 GMT
#52
his parents asked for just 40M more, im sure he can ask hwaseung for that since jaedong is their ONLY competent player and should be retained at all costs. hell he should have cut into his own salary to offer jaedong a better deal if nothing worked out. And if he knew he couldnt offer a good enough deal, he shouldnt have publicly announced to media that he would offer an amazing deal he couldnt refuse.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 23 2009 15:20 GMT
#53
…in order to take Jaedong, a team must pay either 2*70M + 200M or 70M + 200M + player…

PS. If only the previous salary was 70M but not 60M. I suggest it was 60M because Jaedong’s mom asks for 3 previous salaries = 180M.
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
August 23 2009 15:25 GMT
#54
On August 24 2009 00:20 nonduc wrote:
…in order to take Jaedong, a team must pay either 2*70M + 200M or 70M + 200M + player…

PS. If only the previous salary was 70M but not 60M. I suggest it was 60M because Jaedong’s mom asks for 3 previous salaries = 180M.


hmm are you sure about that? At fomos it just says "their salary" but I always got the impression that they were doing it by the new salary they were offered. Either way, thanks for correcting me on his previous salary also, that is fucking terrible pay, considering sea was paid 80M last year.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 23 2009 15:31 GMT
#55
I’m sure.
140M is a proposal for future salary but not a current salary.

And you was wrong about role of coach Cho in — he isn’t an owner of team. He just has his own salary from Hwaseung.
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
August 23 2009 15:38 GMT
#56
Does anyone know whether its OZ, or the team with the best offer's choice whether they choose to give up a player, or pay 2x JD salary to OZ?

I can't imagine there is a single team that would decide to pay 2x his salary rather than give up their 7th best player.
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
August 23 2009 15:43 GMT
#57
I really hope they've got a good sports Lawyer looking over his contracts.
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
August 23 2009 15:46 GMT
#58
jaedong deserves more money in comparison with other players. Even saviour and nada get more money ~~
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 15:57:48
August 23 2009 15:57 GMT
#59
Jaedongs parents might take the role of badguys willingly. They act in the best interest of their son so it's not like the public will hate them for it.
On the other hand if Jaedong switches teams he doesn't loose his status as a "loyal" player since it was out of his hands. Same with his fans and the oz fans. They can't really be angry at Jaedong if his parents make the final decision. So Jaedong will most likely keep all his fans while getting new ones, should he really switch. And without the usual bad blood when a player changes teams for a better salary.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
August 23 2009 15:58 GMT
#60
salary pumping maneuver that is!

deserved tho.
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