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Lucid Dream Guide - The What, Why, and How to

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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 04:06:16
July 23 2010 04:05 GMT
#1
There was recently a thread on Lucid Dreaming, and I noticed a fair number of people who wanted to know how to learn to lucid dream, or who where unsure exactly what lucid dreaming is. Since there is a keen area of interest I thought I'd write a little guide as to what they are and how to learn to lucid dream.

Intro – What is Lucid Dreaming – A Lucid Dream is nothing more than a dream in which the dreamer knows he/she is dreaming. A dream doesn’t have to have high levels of control or vividness to be a lucid dream, though these are frequent attributes of lucid dreaming.

Why it is of interest/worth learning:

1) The first, and most obvious aspect, is for fun. Lucid dreams offer endless opportunities to fulfill your grandest dreams. Want to fly? You got it, however you can imagine it you can do it. Fantasy Adventures? Conjure your own, create an entire fantasy world if you want. Want to experience the ancient world? Let your mind take you there. In short, whatever you can imagine doing, you can do. There really isn’t any limit to what can be done in dreams. Any fantasy, adventure, or desire can be experienced in a lucid dream.

2) Practical Applications – Lucid Dreams actually have a myriad of real life useful applications. For instance if you have a big speech coming up and are worried about your performance in front of a big crowd. Well, in a lucid dream, just create a grand hall packed with guests and your ready to go. You could start small, with a classroom of just a few, and eventually work yourself up to a grand stage. Lucid Dreams are also powerful tools for sports practice. Those of you that play sports know that visualization is a powerful practice tool. Almost all successful athletes use some form of visualization , whether its imagining exactly how you want to shoot a free throw, the feeling you want in your next race, or the rehearsal of the release to hit a nice low draw. The imagery you can imagine in your mind is good, but the imagery in dreams is perfect; as vivid as real life. Moreover, in dreams your body actually sends the nerve impulses to perform a given action, only sleep paralysis prevents one from acting out there dreams. Consequently, dreams have imagery as vivid as real life AND you are actually sending the nerve impulses to perform the action when you do something in a dream. A compelling argument can be made that dream practice is nearly as useful as real life practice; after all you have real life imagery and the transmission of never impulses – this is little different than in real life.

3) Spirituality – Lucid dreams can also be powerful spiritual experiences, allowing you to experience your beliefs in ways you way never have imagined or given thought to you.

Lucid Dreams – The How To

Step 1) -The first thing you want to do when learning lucid dreaming is developing good base dream recall. One dream a night is a pretty good goal to shoot for. Recall is so critical because without good recall you won’t remember lucid dreams as vividly as you could, making them duller experiences than they could be, or even worse you could entirely forgot a lucid dream.
The best way to develop recall is just to tell yourself as you drift off to sleep that you will wake from your dreams and remember then. Keep repeating this to yourself as you go to sleep. Make sure your focusing on the meaning behind the words, and not mindlessly repeating the words themselves. It’s their meaning that is important. When you wake from a dream, write it down immediately in a dream journal (keeping one is VERY helpful for remembering dreams). Even if all you can remember is a thought, feeling, or sensation right it down. If it any point in the day more comes back, go write it down.
If you find yourself still struggling to remember dreams, it can help to set an alarm at 90 minutes intervals after you go to sleep (no shorter than 4.5 hrs). This helps because it will usually wake you up from a REM period, which occurs roughly every 90 minutes, interrupting a dream. Our minds seem to have built in “dream erasers” in that if we don’t immediately make an attempt to remember our dreams they are quickly forgotten.


Step 1b) This step can be done at the same time you are working on developing recall. This step is learning to do what is called reality checking, or state testing. State testing is just confirming to yourself whether or not you are dreaming. While your awake you inherently know that you’re not dreaming, but could you prove it; probably not. In a dream, however, because you are so used to assuming in real life that you are not dreaming, you do the same thing. When you see a person with 5 arms, 6 eyes, and green skin in a dream you’ll rationalize it saying something like “Oh, that man must have had a bad surgery”, or “he must have had experiments done on him”. Reality Checks are a method of proving to yourself that your not dreaming, and aim to break the habit of mindlessly assuming you’re awake. Reality Checks (or RC’s for short) rely on common inconsistencies within dreams. They work because when dreaming your brain is forced to model the world with no sensory input and as a result there are many inconsistencies in dreams.

The RC’s:
1) – Text/Digital RC – Look at a clock (digital) or some text, look away, then back and see if it has changed. In dreams because there is no concrete sensory input text often changes, scambles, or becomes incoherent. If this happens in your RC, your dreaming. 2) Nose Plug – Plug your nose and see if you can breathe through it still. If you can, you’re probably dreaming
3)Flying/Levitation – See if you can, if so, you’re dreaming
I would recommend using all three of these each time as a buffer system in case one fails, which happens occasionally. The key to good RC’s to make it habitual in some way. You can do them every 30 minutes, every time something seems odd or out of place, or everytime you do a certain common real life activities. When you choose to do them is up to you, as long as you work to make it a habit. One final CRITICAL note: Make certain your RC’s don’t become mindlessly. Even though you may know IRL that your awake, if you do them mindlessly with that conclusion in mind you’ll do the exact same thing in dreams.

Lucid Dreams – Step 2) Induction Techniques
There are two ways to become lucid, DILD or WILD. DILD is a dream induced lucid dream, in which something in the dream triggers you to realize your dreaming. WILD, wake initiated lucid dream, is any lucid dream induction in which you remain conscious into the dream state as your body falls asleep.

Basic DILD Induction Technique – MILD: My preferred method for DILD is the Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams, or MILD, technique. MILD basically involves repeating a mantra to yourself as you go to sleep such as "I will remember to recognize that I'm dreaming." Its much like practicing dream recall in that you need to focus on the meaning of the words and ensure your not mindlessly repeating them. If you find your attention wandering, refocus it and begin the mantra anew. You can enhance the effectiveness of MILD by setting an alarm later in the night in order to get more "chances" and, for the visually oriented person, it can be helpful to visualize yourself in a dream situation, such as flying, and recognizing the impossibility of the situation. This is a pretty darn effective technique, and the one I first used to learn to lucid dream at will.

Basic WILD Induction Technique – WILD: My favorite version involves focusing on hypnagogic imagery (imagery you see as you fall asleep, the little dots/patches of color/shapes, etc) as I fall asleep. After waking up later in the night I will begin to fall asleep again, and as I do focus on the imagery behind my eyelids. It needs to be a soft focus, like a distant and passive observer. Attempting to actively interact with the imagery or control its flow will wake you up, as will getting impatient. Never ever get aggressive or impatient when WILDing, it pretty much dooms you to failure. As you continue the hypnagogic imagery will begin to evolve, changing from random colors/shapes/dots etc, into more clear images, perhaps starting to form patterns or organized imagery. It is typically around this time that you’ll start to notice your body beginning to fall asleep and you will start experiencing what is known as SP or sleep paralysis. SP can be very frightening if your not used to it or prepared for it. People often hear all kinds of sounds, from humming, to scratching, to banging, and so forth, and it will often feel as if there are vibrations or sensations running through your body. It isn't dangerous and is actually a good sign: it means your close to being in a dream. Its tough to relax the first few times you encounter this and as is true of being in a dream as well if you get too excited/nervous/etc. you'll wake right back u so it’s imperative you remain calm. As you go through this your imagery will begin to become a moving scene, almost like watching a movie. At this point you need to allow yourself to be drawn in to the scene. NEVER attempt to force or project yourself into the scene, you will wake up. You must allow yourself to be drawn in. Once you are drawn and are in he dream, feel free to do have fun.
The attitude you need for good WILDing is that of a passive observer. You need to disinterestedly observe whatever is happening around you. It’s a delicate balance though. To little observing and you’ll just fall asleep. But if your too forceful or expectant you'll wake right back up.

Lucid Dreams – Final Notes
: Neither technique is inherently better than the other. While there is a very general rule of thumb that says that WILD is easier for people who fall asleep fast and MILD can favor those who fall asleep more slowly, this is just a general trend. Experiment with both techniques before deciding what you feel suits you better. While both of these techniques benefit from WBTB (Wake-Back-to-Bed; i.e. waking up after 4.5+ hours of sleep and then attempting to LD), it is essential to WILD. It is extremely difficult, usually impossible to WILD at the beginning of the night since the body usually passes through the deeper stages 3 and 4 of sleep during the beginning of the night and it is next to impossible to remain conscious during these stages of deep sleep.

Well, it really turned out to be a wall of text, but I hope I have been able to give you guys some insight into lucid dreaming, particularly some of the how to's. If you have more questions, don't hesiate to ask.


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virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
July 23 2010 04:09 GMT
#2
japanese rape pron comes to mind.


nah i keed... who on earth would think of such dirty dirty things right?
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 23 2010 04:11 GMT
#3
Yes we know all about the how tos . What's your successes ?
Each day gets better : )
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 04:18:58
July 23 2010 04:12 GMT
#4
Very nice L_Master. It's good to see long, well thought out and helpful blogs. 5 Stars :D

Anyone who wants more information, check out this expanded guide for some further reading. It covers most of the points that L_Master has, but is quite a bit longer.

http://www.dreamviews.com/section/introduction-5/
metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
July 23 2010 04:14 GMT
#5
man i just want a good nights sleep when i go to bed. im not sure if exploring Narnia is such a good idea for me.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
July 23 2010 04:18 GMT
#6
How long would it take to get this "perfected" if u will.

Also I heard somewhere that its also useful to keep a journal or something and record your dreams. Apparently helps again form a memory of the dreams. Know anything about this?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 04:24:37
July 23 2010 04:19 GMT
#7
On July 23 2010 13:14 metaphoR wrote:
man i just want a good nights sleep when i go to bed. im not sure if exploring Narnia is such a good idea for me.


The truth is, lucid dreams are just as restful as a regular nights sleep. Even when I was having 4 or more per night I was never any more tired than I would be after a "normal" night of the same lengths sleep.

How long would it take to get this "perfected" if u will.

Also I heard somewhere that its also useful to keep a journal or something and record your dreams. Apparently helps again form a memory of the dreams. Know anything about this?


Perfection is an achievable thing. It is possible to learn to have lucid dreams on command. As far as the length of time goes, its obviously going to vary by person. Stephen LaBerge, one of the main scientists to prove lucid dreaming, took about 4 years to learn to LD at will - but he had to develop the techniques himself. It took my about a year and a half of moderatly focused effort to reach the point where I could have a handful of them every night.

As far as the memory/DJ thing goes, I mentioned it in the OP but yes having a dream journal is a helpdul aid. The act of writing down dreams helps make recall a habit and often the simple act of trying to write down the dream really helps your recall by really forcing you to try and remember as much as possible.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
July 23 2010 04:19 GMT
#8
On July 23 2010 13:18 SubtleArt wrote:
How long would it take to get this "perfected" if u will.

Also I heard somewhere that its also useful to keep a journal or something and record your dreams. Apparently helps again form a memory of the dreams. Know anything about this?


Way to read the op there buddy.
Airsick
Profile Joined March 2010
United States134 Posts
July 23 2010 04:19 GMT
#9
My dog wakes me up hours before I usually get up, so I end up having a lot of lucid dreams.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 23 2010 04:20 GMT
#10
On July 23 2010 13:14 metaphoR wrote:
man i just want a good nights sleep when i go to bed. im not sure if exploring Narnia is such a good idea for me.


Hahaha oh god this made me laugh.

Thanks for the guide I think I'll try this out, or at least try to remember my dreams more.

Ps. Good ol' Google Ads and their "Guide to Lucid Dreaming!"
Retvrn to Forvms
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 23 2010 04:23 GMT
#11
On July 23 2010 13:09 virgozero wrote:
japanese rape pron comes to mind.


nah i keed... who on earth would think of such dirty dirty things right?

whatever floats ur boat lol...personally i dream about crushin JD/Flash in epic Bo21s ^____^
because in my dreams man...OSL decided...HOLY SHIT WE WANT OUR FINALS TO LAST FOR HOURS!!! (longer than the already do...)....this just made me think of how scary a Canata vs Any Terran Bo21 would be so scary lol
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 23 2010 04:26 GMT
#12
there was a study that said gamers could have an easier time making or having lucid dreams cause they know how to act in a "virtual" environment.. the only people I know that have lucid dreams once in a while are me and a friend.. we both are avid gamers.. so who knows?
in The Kong line forever
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
July 23 2010 04:31 GMT
#13
Drugs. Lots of them.
XK ßubonic
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
July 23 2010 04:37 GMT
#14
I'm a big fan of lucid dreaming, check the user name >

I used to do it a lot, usually with the "WILD" method. I started discovered it accidentally while maintaining my crazy college sleep habits.

Ah, good times. I want to get back into it, haven't had one in quite some time.
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
July 23 2010 04:40 GMT
#15
I get lucid dreams once in a while. My problem is keeping it lucid. I either

1.) "Hey I'm Lucid!" 1 min later I'm back to dreaming unlucid as I 'forget' this fact.
2.) Try and control something, and everything just goes 'black', as there's no environment. After a while i either wake up or i go back to dreaming unlucid. I think its the fact that I'm trying too hard to control something before I go unlucid again.
3.) Think I'm awake when I'm actually dreaming. As in, i'm dreaming that I'm in bed trying to get back into a dream. Its annoying as hell.

But yea, sleep paralysis is scary as hell. You feel a 'presence' sometimes, and you cant move. Its pretty much the 'old hag syndrome' as I've heard it termed.

I seem to lucid dream really easily when I take naps.
Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
July 23 2010 04:47 GMT
#16
The mantra before sleeping is really good advice, I'll have to give that a try.

Almost every time I begin to lucid dream, the dream unravels and I wake up. Though, when I lucid dream it is usually on accident. For instance, someone will say or do something in my dream and I will realize that it can't be real, then I'll either wake up immediately, or in very rare cases, continue to lucid dream (which is always awesome.) Maybe repeating that mantra before I crash will help me stay in the dream world for longer, who knows.
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Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
July 23 2010 04:49 GMT
#17
I had a psychology professor who said a good way to recognize you're dreaming is looking at the palm of your hand and seeing if you could see all the little lines. In a dream, apparently you can't. So if you make a habit of checking your hand when your awake, it's easier to do in a dream to check if your dreaming. I haven't tried it but maybe it will help someone else out.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 05:00:26
July 23 2010 04:55 GMT
#18
Meet Jack and Juno. Have lots of lucid dreams. Simple. And get a totem

I've actually only had one lucid dream ever before and since then I'd tried many things that you suggest, keeping journals, etc. but it hasn't been working at all. I am resigned till dreamsharers are a reality and then i will dream lucidly
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 23 2010 05:06 GMT
#19
On July 23 2010 13:40 pokeyAA wrote:
I get lucid dreams once in a while. My problem is keeping it lucid. I either

1.) "Hey I'm Lucid!" 1 min later I'm back to dreaming unlucid as I 'forget' this fact.
2.) Try and control something, and everything just goes 'black', as there's no environment. After a while i either wake up or i go back to dreaming unlucid. I think its the fact that I'm trying too hard to control something before I go unlucid again.
3.) Think I'm awake when I'm actually dreaming. As in, i'm dreaming that I'm in bed trying to get back into a dream. Its annoying as hell.

But yea, sleep paralysis is scary as hell. You feel a 'presence' sometimes, and you cant move. Its pretty much the 'old hag syndrome' as I've heard it termed.

I seem to lucid dream really easily when I take naps.


1) Number one if tricky because it usually means you are at a very low "level of lucidity" meaning that your scarcely cognizant of the fact that your lucid. If you recognize that you're dreaming the best thing to do is shout something like "INCREASE LUCIDITY NOW". This helps ground you in the fatc that your dreaming and the authoritavite commanding style helps reinforce that

2) If everything goes black it sounds like your losing the dream. Use a stabilazation technqiue such as spinning or rubbing your hands together. In each case make sure your focus is on the sensations involved, i.e the feeling of your hands rubbing together, as this helps kepp your brain involved in the dream.

3) This is called a false awakening, and yeah they can be pretty frustrating. Not much you can dop in this case. The best preventive measure I have adopted is to make it habit to do a reality check immeidatlely upon awakening as FA isn't exceptionally rare.

Yeah, sleep paralysis can be scary, but it shouldn't be too bad once you know what it is and that the sensations either are not real or are not dangerous. I personally like SP very much because it is so close to the dream state that its easy to slip right into a dream. Once your used to it sleep paralysis is like defending a 4 pool with no probe losses, pretty much a free lucid dream.

And yes, napping is a very conductive state to Lucid Dreaming because you usually just go straight into REM sleep. thus slipping quickly and easily into a dream.

I had a psychology professor who said a good way to recognize you're dreaming is looking at the palm of your hand and seeing if you could see all the little lines. In a dream, apparently you can't. So if you make a habit of checking your hand when your awake, it's easier to do in a dream to check if your dreaming. I haven't tried it but maybe it will help someone else out.


This is another example of something that is inconsistent in dreams. Without the actual visual imagery to work with the brain either makes up, or forgets, the details. What your talking about is basically just another reality check. While reality checks or useful for having lucid dreams and shold be practiced, they aren't a consistent way to have LD's and not an inudction technqiue in and of themselves.
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xOchievax
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
July 23 2010 05:07 GMT
#20
Almost every time I begin to lucid dream, the dream unravels and I wake up. Though, when I lucid dream it is usually on accident. For instance, someone will say or do something in my dream and I will realize that it can't be real, then I'll either wake up immediately, or in very rare cases, continue to lucid dream (which is always awesome.) Maybe repeating that mantra before I crash will help me stay in the dream world for longer, who knows.


Actually the best way for most people to stay in a dream after realizing they are dreaming is to engage their senses in the dream. If you can remember to, grab something around you and focus on feeling it's properties. Rub your hands together or rub your ears. Listening to some kind of audio input in the dream can also help to stabalize it. Most importantly, remain as calm and relaxed as you can, and you will extend the time of those dreams substantially.
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