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Lucid Dream Guide - The What, Why, and How to - Page 3

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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 23 2010 11:44 GMT
#41
FLYING 5/5!
thanks for writing this :3
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nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
July 23 2010 13:12 GMT
#42
I figured out that I lucid dream a lot when I sleep back after just waking up. Is this another way of having lucid dreams?
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vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
July 23 2010 14:00 GMT
#43
yeah, that's wake-back-to-bed (WBTB), which the OP briefly touched upon near the end of his post

getting out of bed after about 5-6 hours of sleep, spending about half an hour thinking/reading about lucid dreaming and then going back to bed greatly improves the chances of you having a lucid dream

just being woken up after about 5-6 hours, being awake for a few minutes and falling back asleep already improves your chances, especially when you spend those few minutes thinking about lucid dreaming
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michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
July 23 2010 14:09 GMT
#44
I've studied LD a decent amount, everytime I get pysched up to try and train myself how to do it...I get lazy with the realization that it'll take forrrrevverrrrz to properly train myself to do it.

I hate to 'stick' to the sex aspect of the dreams, but that has an inherent question, as well as, begs another:

1.) If you're having sex in a LD - and it is very vivid - what happens when you reach climax in the dream? I suppose I'm asking for explanation from those who have accomplished this in a LD...Sorry to be graphic, but does sex in LD...heh...come with IRL consequences basically?

--I have certainly heard that for some guys, whom have not cleaned out the ole' pipes for several days/weeks a wet dream in and of itself can cause climax release while sleeping, i have never experienced this myself, but i am very curious how it correlates with LD, as a pretty much un-talked about topic is how LD will most certainly be used to exploit sex.

2.) In the event that one can reach a IRL climax through dream imagrey, what other type of IRL consequences can be experienced?

If for example I am dreaming about fighting and I am hit very hard in the stomach and side, I can feel that pain in the dream, i assume, but when I wake up...will any sensation of the fake pain still be with me?

----

I really, really want to learn how to LD...This blog i think has inspired me to re-start my dream log.

Any additional advice on how to remember my dreams? I've tried telling myself to remember my dreams as I fall asleep, but that didn't really work...

Seems like most of the work of learning to LD is getting over these initial hurdles.

Last question:

I've also heard that LDing ALLLL the time is bad for you, and that a requirement for healthy sleep is to at least once or twice a week to allow your dreams to roam free.

Which seems odd, as if one is so experienced at LDing, how would you then go back to having a free-form dream? You know what I mean?
Lysis
Profile Joined October 2009
United States147 Posts
July 23 2010 14:46 GMT
#45
What would you suggest to someone like myself with poor dream recall (I can barely remember 1 dream per week or so and it's usually pretty hazy) to start training themselves to either remember their dreams better or to even start having lucid dreams?
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xOchievax
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
July 23 2010 15:45 GMT
#46
In the event that one can reach a IRL climax through dream imagrey, what other type of IRL consequences can be experienced?

If for example I am dreaming about fighting and I am hit very hard in the stomach and side, I can feel that pain in the dream, i assume, but when I wake up...will any sensation of the fake pain still be with me?


Definitely not once you are fully awake. You can still feel the pain or whatever right as the dream fades and you start to wake up but it will always stop after a few seconds.

What would you suggest to someone like myself with poor dream recall (I can barely remember 1 dream per week or so and it's usually pretty hazy) to start training themselves to either remember their dreams better or to even start having lucid dreams?


I would say dont worry about it. Just try to remember to record anything you do remember directly when you wake up. Also mantras like "I will remember my dreams" would probably help you out if you feel like you dont remember anything at all. As a general rule, the more time you put into focusing on your dreams the better off you will be.

michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
July 23 2010 15:48 GMT
#47
Ten four on the pain, however I am more interested in the...lol...first question.

I doubt it, but hell...if i could...obtain release that way...DIVORCE AND LIVE ALONE!!!! lol
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
July 23 2010 16:18 GMT
#48
Yay, thanks for a guide like this. I actually dled a very good guide the other day but never got around to watching it. I'll do it after reading your guide.

I heard lucid dreaming can be really useful and it's awesome, but, that nightmares are ten times worse.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 23 2010 16:39 GMT
#49
Is it true that flicking a light switch on or off to see if it works is another RC?

I saw this in Waking Life (a movie that everyone should go and watch).
Don't hate the player, hate the game
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
July 23 2010 16:52 GMT
#50
On July 24 2010 01:39 FuRong wrote:
Is it true that flicking a light switch on or off to see if it works is another RC?

I saw this in Waking Life (a movie that everyone should go and watch).


Yes. If you turn on a light in a LC there's usually some lag between your action and the light turning on. And the light is really weak too.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 17:11:26
July 23 2010 17:10 GMT
#51
2.) In the event that one can reach a IRL climax through dream imagrey, what other type of IRL consequences can be experienced?

If for example I am dreaming about fighting and I am hit very hard in the stomach and side, I can feel that pain in the dream, i assume, but when I wake up...will any sensation of the fake pain still be with me?

----

I really, really want to learn how to LD...This blog i think has inspired me to re-start my dream log.

Any additional advice on how to remember my dreams? I've tried telling myself to remember my dreams as I fall asleep, but that didn't really work...

Seems like most of the work of learning to LD is getting over these initial hurdles.

Last question:

I've also heard that LDing ALLLL the time is bad for you, and that a requirement for healthy sleep is to at least once or twice a week to allow your dreams to roam free.

Which seems odd, as if one is so experienced at LDing, how would you then go back to having a free-form dream? You know what I mean?


No, you won't feel dream pain when you wake up. Getting hurt in a dream does not cause any damage to you IRL. The same is true of dying, you could kill yourself in a dream and be completly fine in real life.
The simple answer to number 1 is that it various. Sometimes people will climax IRL just as they do in a dream, sometimes they won't. From what I have rad and heard it seems to vary from person to person and really from night to night.
As far as having LD's all the time, like 6+ a night, I don't know if I would say its bad for you, but it can get a little exhausting because its so much time you spend fully aware that it can wear you down. And going to back to regular dreaming is pretty easy, once you stop trying to have LD's it stops pretty quickly, within a few days for me. LD's are something that on the whole must be intentionally induced, if you stop using induction technqiues and doing so many reality checks your LD frequency will drop right off.

What would you suggest to someone like myself with poor dream recall (I can barely remember 1 dream per week or so and it's usually pretty hazy) to start training themselves to either remember their dreams better or to even start having lucid dreams?


I touched on this some in the OP, but basically as you go to sleep yell yourself that you want to wake from your dreams and remember them. Really focus on the meaning of the words; don't just mindlessly say them. Its important to keep your mind focus and not let it drift and if you feel it drifting be sure to regroup and return your attention to wanting to rememebr dreams. Also, keep a dream journal and everytime you wake up stay right where you are, try to remember as much as you can of the dream, and then write it down. It usually helps if you stay in bed. If you're really stuggling set an alarm at 1.5 hour intervals from the time you fall asleep in order to help you wake directly from a REM period, the sleep stage in which you dream.

I heard lucid dreaming can be really useful and it's awesome, but, that nightmares are ten times worse.


Trying to lucid dream won't affect your nightmares. The won't get better or worse because you'e trying to achieve lucidity. A Lucid nightmae isn't scary at all because you know its a dream, and thus can easily stop whatever unpleasentries are occuring and go have an enjoyable LD.


Is it true that flicking a light switch on or off to see if it works is another RC?

I saw this in Waking Life (a movie that everyone should go and watch).


I could see this working, but being inconsistent. I have never tried it myself but my guess is that because we are so conditioned to seeing lights turn on when we flip a switch, the same will happen often in a dream. Yes, the light may be different or strange, but if you're non lucid thats a subtle thing to notice and there is a good chance you'll just rationalize the problem with some crazy excuse. Feel free to try it though, different RC's work better for different people.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 17:19:35
July 23 2010 17:18 GMT
#52
Thanks for the response!

Right, I - hehe - don't like the Matrix all that much, so i for sure understand that you can't get HURT or DIE IRL from a dream...More-so i was referencing the ghost pain. I sometimes have ghost pain, you know?

And, the next question you can surely tell me is none of my business - if it is too personal.

+ Show Spoiler +
But seeing as you are certainly establishing yourself as an expert on the topic.

Have you reached climax, IRL, through LD intercourse (and i mean LD climax)?

If not, what sensations did you experience in the dream state when the event occurred?

edit: I am sorry for 'sticking' to this single attribute, but I don't have fantasy's of flying...But i certainly have other fantasy's i'd enjoy experiencing! :D

L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 23 2010 17:24 GMT
#53
Have you reached climax, IRL, through LD intercourse (and i mean LD climax)?

If not, what sensations did you experience in the dream state when the event occurred?


Yes, but that occurs infrequently for me. Obviously you don't know you ejaculated IRL until you awake from the dream. As far as experiencing it in the dream state if feels pretty much...like sex. It is a little odd though, in that you can't get too excited or emotional in the dream or else you'll wake up. Which of course can be tough when you're having sex. It makes sex a little restrained, but it is still pretty darn close to the real life event.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
michiko
Profile Joined April 2010
United States75 Posts
July 23 2010 17:27 GMT
#54
Again thanks - what an interesting topic.

Alas, surely the real thing is still better *Lah, Sigh*

Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
July 23 2010 19:07 GMT
#55
I'm still trying to get lucid dreams...
Got it once by pure luck, but since I have no idea how to do reality checks, I usually end up waking myself up with RC's D:
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
July 23 2010 20:56 GMT
#56
Another thing to note is that smoking marajuana is a dream supressent. So it can be alot harder to have lucid dreams if you smoke regularly. Also if you are a heavy smoker taking a break will cause many people to dream very vividly for the next week or more after you stop smoking.

When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 24 2010 00:41 GMT
#57
I've had a couple near-lucid experiences (mostly in terms of acknowledging sleep paralysis), but I have two questions.

1) Every time I remember a dream I see myself as a kind of floating spectator. If you are lucid dreaming, does it actually feel like you're awake? Do you actually inhabit your own body and control it?

2) Are your senses active when you are lucid dreaming? Do you fully feel, smell, taste, hear, and see things as you would think you would in real life? Are your senses toned up/down? If so, by how much?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 24 2010 03:50 GMT
#58
On July 24 2010 09:41 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I've had a couple near-lucid experiences (mostly in terms of acknowledging sleep paralysis), but I have two questions.

1) Every time I remember a dream I see myself as a kind of floating spectator. If you are lucid dreaming, does it actually feel like you're awake? Do you actually inhabit your own body and control it?

2) Are your senses active when you are lucid dreaming? Do you fully feel, smell, taste, hear, and see things as you would think you would in real life? Are your senses toned up/down? If so, by how much?


1)Yes, it feels almost exactly like being awake. The perception is the same, as is, in general, the vividness. How real if will feel when you wake up depends on your recall. If your recall is good and crisp it will feel like a 2 minute old memory, but it its not as good it can feel like something that happened 5 years ago.

2) Yes, they are. You definitly sense things the way you "think" you would in real life. Of course without actual sensory input to rely on your mind is making up many of the senses based on expectation or memory. Generally my senses are pretty similar to real life, but it is certainly possible to tone up or tone down your senses if you so desire.
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 05:18:46
July 24 2010 04:59 GMT
#59
Every morning, I wake up after 8 hours of sleep, then I go back to sleep for 4 more hours (it's just how my body work I guess). For these 4 hours hours I have an insanely long dream, that last 2-3 hours, very rich in content and stuff that makes sense. I can't control it, but I'll wake up every 10 minutes or so and I can "fix" (or not if I'm happy with it, like most of the time) something I dislike in the super dream then fall back asleep easily. It's actually an amazing experience and I often stay in bed just so that this dream can go on.

Most of the time I know that I am dreaming but I don't try to control anything (without waking up and "fixing" it, I mean). Is it lucid dreaming of some sort?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 24 2010 07:15 GMT
#60
Most of the time I know that I am dreaming


That is 100% a lucid dream. The only requesite needed for it to be a lucid dream is for you to realize that your dreaming. You probably have a low level of lucidity since you don't excerise much control, but if you recognize on some level that its a dream, then you are by definition lucid.
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